#and it was also just. bad. it was badly written.
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Hugo and Vivian
So I finished the bangboo event yesterday for the main story and completed all the quests today, so now it's time to talk about what was the most interesting to me about it.
It was Hugo and Vivian.
They finally showed up!
Hugo's bangboo is named Robin, and he also speaks the human language instead of speaking bangboo as well!
That's nice to know. Makes me laugh that Hugo has a bangboo named Robin, since he's part of a band of thieves, reminds me of Robin Hood, pretty sure it's intentional.
Also why do I call Vivian, Vivian? Because it seems to be her name if said name is written all over her parasol. I'm not even kidding.
Welcome Vivian, that's the fanciest parasol I've seen in a while. Really pretty.
Hugo is apparently a collector. Though he seems to prefer objects of historical and sentimental value more than actual perceived value in money.
I wonder what's the reason behind it, but still, cool.
Also Vivian seems to be hoping for Phaethon to show up or something?
My poor girl is given the title "Strange Young Lady", she's not strange she's adorable, a real little gothic doll. <3 Well, she is slightly taller than Belle but that's probably her shoes giving her an extra inch more than anything else.
Still, she's so precious. I love her your honor. I also see she has some streaks of white/silver in her hair, nice.
I must wonder what she and Hugo have for relationship, are they just friends, business partners, teammates only, like brother and sister or father and daughter like, or boss and employee, master and servant??? I just cannot see them as being a romantic couple.
But also apparently Hugo is the first person in the story to actually pull one on Lycaon, being able to steal what he wanted before Lycaon could intervene, pretty cool. Sending a letter to tell them about the future thieft, only to steal it before the finale, that was awesome. We probably helped with that by accident but still I find it funny that Lycaon didn't think about it before that it could be stolen before the winner was even decided. But he doesn't seem to surprised by it but still. Good one from Hugo.
Hugo is a thief but he also still seems nice and not a bad person, according to Astra.
I guess we'll see in a future patch and hopefully after the Obol Squad and Pulchra's events.
I am skipping everyone else just to get Hugo and Vivian, so no Ellen, no Evelyn, no Qingyi, no Anby, no Trigger and no Pulchra, just Hugo and Vivian. I need those 2 badly. If Pulchra is A rank, I will probably be able to get her on the normal channel. But I need to stay strong for Hugo and Vivian, these 2 alone can keep me going for a while.
Also I'm gonna change my avatar for Vivian's picture in 2 minutes. ^^ I just really love her so very much. <3
Hugo can finally complete my holy trinity of himself, Harumasa and Billy, my 3 favorite characters in the game. Seth and Miyabi both tie for second place. Vivian might join my holy trinity to make it a quartet. XD
#zzz#zenless zone zero#zzzero#zzz hugo vlad#zzz hugo#hugo vlad#zzz vivian#vivian zzz#zzz mockingbird#mockingbird zzz#von lycaon#zzz lycaon#zzz von lycaon#zzz astra#astra yao
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ngl, mentioning one of my hyperfixations does not necessarily activate my trap card. mentioning a book or media that I LOATHED, on the other hand,
#dieselpunkd informed me she also hated station eleven and OHHHHH MY GOD#station eleven book 🤝 annihlation movie: critically acclaimed stories that FUCKING SUCK ASS#I only do not have opinions on station eleven show cuz I refused to even look at tumblr gifs of it. I loathed the book that much.#'omg this book is so preSCIENT!!1!1!' it literally was NOT#and it was also just. bad. it was badly written.#it felt like it did not actually believe that a reader would take its premise and stakes seriously#which severely undercut my ability as a reader to take them seriously! like bruh you gotta believe in yourself!#stop using hollow sensationalism and obfuscation to convince me that your stakes are high! just tell me how it is and let me believe it!#too many people write for cinemasins dumbasses and that is the HIGHEST cinema sin of all actually#like if you don't believe in your own premise why the fuck should I.
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Me, going to Critical role tag to see Predathos arts and theories (and also parallelisms to the Collector):
Also me, finding only hatred and people complaining:
#predathos#like... can we chill a little?#i guess it's me but some comments sound pretty nasty#also they are playing a game and the fact that they are not heroes it's the entire plot of bell's hells#literally none of them wanted to be there#they were forced to and had to choose#and they didn't want to because there's no right choice this time#it's much more complex#it's not like Vecna#where there was only one possible good outcome#here there's none#every possibility is going to be bad for someone#and that's what makes it interesting in my opinion#they are acting as humans and humans hate taking decisions like this#and act recklessly and stupid#but try their best because that's the only think they can do#like if you don't like it#it's fine#however it doesn't mean they are bad at their game#they are acting in a stupid way because they are not heroes#and they are not powerful as VM or M9#my point is just stop being mean#it's not like you cannot dislike it just stop saying that your point is the only valid#because bell's hells journey is just as interesting as the others but it's different#like i would never expect them to act just as the other teams they are different people and if you don't like it okay#but they are not badly 'written' characters#critical role#critical role spoilers#cr 3x118#critical role 3x118
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You know what. Who wants a damn ramble.
These two pieces of media are very unrelated but I promise they make me feel similar things in opposite ways
Maybe bc i watched both in the same week but anyway
I've seen both Mufasa 2024 and HB several times having their writing and plots compared to "fanfiction" and obviously it's an insult and people never go any deeper than that but I'm tired of accepting that fanfic-y plots aren't hella cool sometimes and that it's all the same bc it's really not and also man it's really not that deep in the end oh my God
Bc you know what. We write/read fanfiction bc we want silly guilty pleasures that we rarely see in "professional" writing and we want to see those cool tropes happening. But then when those tropes do happen people complain that it isn't professional enough??? So what the fuck do you want then
Like Loona having a demon feral wolf form is PEAK deviantart 2012 furry fanfic headcannon but also. That's so fucking cool man. I love her. People ask oh why does she have a demon form but man why should she NOT. Yeah you'd see it in fanfics but isnt that bc we want it. It's in character and in universe and it's cool and I love it bc it's so random but it doesn't destroy the universe and it's COOL it really doesn't go deeper than that man
Meanwhile Mufasa writing is fanfic-y in the way that it has a lot of tropes that you see in TLK fanfiction (white lions, made up lion biology, etc) but it's also BAD bc it's sooo badly connected and the pacing is terrible but also they don't even DO anything cool with it. It doesn't do anything new or exciting with the wacky ideas they decide to use. It doesn't do anything cool with white lions. It doesn't do anything cool with Mufasa being adopted. All comes and goes and leaves no impact.
It'd be the same if they'd randomly introduced Loona's wolf form while she was on the phone or smth. Literally nobody would find that cool the way we are now bc it's hella cool THE WAY they did it
Like fanfics can be bad or good and that's fine bc the only reason they exist is to be self-serving and I give them all the right to be as dumb and as badly written as they deserve and for some people it's just stress relief and some people are literally 11yos having fun. Do whatever you want
But when you have some kind of production then yeah, we expect some level of quality. I just don't think that being "fanfiction level / fanfic-y" is inherently bad you know. It's about how you use it
Both Loona being a feral demon and the whole Mufasa movie have a lot of fanfic tropes but one of them used it in cool ways and the other used it in dumb ways but the tropes themselves aren't the problem you know
I just don't think that fanfic tropes are inherently bad and I'm tired of acting as if they are. Fuck I love THE LION GUARD over Mufasa because The lion guard actually does cool stuff with whatever they did and embraced it being as insane as it is while Mufasa just threw random stuff and didn't do anything with the tropes they used. I would be SO INTO Mufasa having white lions and ghosts and magic and fights and lion monarchies if they bothered to do anything cool with it.
I don't know man. It's not that deep. Sometimes stuff can be silly but also cool. Media can be silly and fanfic-y as long as they write it in a cool way. Which Helluva Boss did and Mufasa didn't and that's the point
Have a great night
#12 yo me is crying bc i so wanted an expanded TLK universe but this is just not it man#it's just bad. like it's a bad movie. it's bad writing#helluva boss is at least cool. its silly and its fun. thats it#mufasa is dumb#not the character#the movie#mufasa 2024#ofc you can think helluva boss is badly written or bad and thats also fine!!#im just tired of saying X is bad bc it feels like fanfiction as if some fanfiction tropes and ideas arent hella cool???#obviously its different from professional writing and im not saying theyre the same but i feek like theres a point im making here#but if it sounds like i wrote this on withdrawl is because i did#helluva boss#furry#fursona#loona#feral#i have so many insane tlk headcanons and fanfics in my head idt the tropes are the problem just pls do smth cool with it#rant#fanfiction#i guess#disney hire me for the next tlk remake#let me show you my Prince of the egypt-esque background for taka and mufasa
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There's always those fics that put too much emphasis on it 😔
(Original video made by rarityswifez of Tiktok. I just added the words)
#sometimes i purposely resd badly written smut fics just to see what happens#i try not to bully it too much since every writer starts somewhere#but its my comfort to see how bad they can get#im also forgetting what a digital footprint is#helluva boss#fizzarolli#ao3#wattpad#fizzarolli helluva boss#helluva boss fizzarolli#fizzmodeus
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Fantastic news everybody: Zuko/Sokka is only about 600 fics away from overtaking Zutara as the most popular ATLA ship tag on AO3. Finally, nature is healing.
#atla#zuko#sokka#it's not that i hate zutara it's just that i hate zutara#it's always done SO badly. they're always written really OOC#zuko's personality is always erased into either Cute Awkward Boy or just generic Sexy Bad Boy#and katara either becomes generic Good Girl or her personality is completely erased to turn into a blank slate for readers to project onto#and lets be real here: the main appeal to shipping them is just because they're the most attractive members of the main cast#bet you anything if aang wasn't designed to look like the baby faced 12 year old that he is kataang would be way more popular#also real talk the zutara 'chemistry' ppl reference? is usually them genuinely hating each other#or it's just them having normal friendly interactions#or worse it's that arc of katara being actively hostile while zuko passively accepts her abuse
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There were parts of TBoBF I wanted to like but the writers and directors just kept making story choices that made their characters look dumb or inept.
I wanted to like the fight sequence with Mando and Boba working around each other in the streets, but if they were able to hide on the rooftop of the bombed out Sanctuary until getting the drop on the Pykes et al., why on earth would they leave the rooftop
Why would you come out of hiding. Why would you give up your cover in exchange for being wide out in the open. Why would you give up the literal high ground to go stand in the middle of a three-way intersection within a more achievable firing distance for your enemies. Why wouldn’t you stay on the roof firing from afar, something the both of you as hunters would not just know how to do better than anybody else there, but would know TO do in this specific situation. Why are you negating the element of surprise and the entire purpose of being on the rooftop to begin with.
I don’t care how cool they could have looked. I don’t care that we get to see the jetpacks in action. I don’t care how it’s supposed to represent some “I’ve got your back” moment between these two. It’s an incredibly basic directorial and fight choreography flub to have your two characters purposefully put themselves into danger when you’ve literally just established that they had the strategic advantage. Even children know it’s harder for people to get to you when you’re up somewhere out of reach.
#the book of boba fett#TBoBF crit#hounds speaks#They just kept having the characters do stupid counterintuitive stuff that makes them inept and badly written#fight choreography#Like my quibbles with the Duel of the Fates are definitely not as glaringly obvious as these are#This is BASIC stuff#You don’t tell everybody ‘Hey here’s my ninja assassin and also here’s what she looks like.’#Because why would anybody think that’s NOT a blatant intimidation tactic#You don’t have them stay in the bombed out club instead of retreating to the fortress the bad guys should have attacked in the first place#And you don’t just jump right down into the lion’s den when you could have made literally any other choice that would have been better
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Wait, you’ve never been to a psychiatrist and had your brain issues made cannon? I thought it was all intentional ngl. There are so many “Have you ever been tested for (insert disorder)” coded characters in your work.
nope, but that may change in the future! growing up, my family alas was of the belief that quote-on-quote "mental illness" is "all in your head" (which, like, yeah that's kind of the point.) Idk, to their credit, they also taught me that thoughts don't matter as much as actions do. Everyone responds differently to different things, and that difference doesn't have a Moral Value or make you a Bad Person. a lot of Instincts that People Oughtta Have don't matter as much as the positive actions those instincts are supposed to lead to, and realizing this helped me a lot growing up.
as for a lot of my characters' POVs, I often write based on how I see the world/experience things, albeit sometimes with certain facets amplified. but that's kind of why I don't claim a lot of my characters have a canonical neurodivergence and/or (insert disorder) even if it ends up being pretty obvious they might, because if it was unintentional, I don't wanna claim unintended 'representation' JK Rowling-style lol. (that being said, I do also write characters with canonical neurodivergence in mind! this stuff only applies to like, the ones where i haven't clarified/confirmed anything specific.)
#slightly unrelated but#my biggest pet peeve is badly written/villainized neurodivergent characters also. like oh he had xyz disorder so thats why he did bad thing#its just like. boring and one dimensional to make a character from a List of DSM5 Criteria and call it a day#not that they should be giving him a tragic backstory to 'sympathize' with instead bc that's a weird way to value characters imo#but more so I dislike it when no worth/care is given to a character's POV just bc of (insert disorder)#when the way they experience the world is just as human and interesting as the neurotypical protagonist. idk#so when I write neurodivergent characters I want to be sure I'm doing it with intentionality and care. yk
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At First Glance Part III
Fanfic Inspired by: https://www.tumblr.com/eternalremorse/751163260305342464/seb-x-mc-coded?source=share
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Chapter 2 <<<||| Chapter 3 |||>>>Chapter 4
...At Feldcroft
The Feldcroft home visit went worse than Sebastian expected.
Not only was his uncle rude to him and rash when he destroyed the shivelfig he brought for Anne, Solomon completely embarrassed him in front of his best friend. Anger and shame filled him like never before and he found himself leaving the house before he could make things worse.
Since that’s all he could do when he went home apparently.
Sebastian kicked a few weeds here and there, walking away from that house he was forced to call home since he was six. He hated his uncle. He hated it here. He hated the fact that he told MC to give him a moment when she went looking for him. He could only watch from the corner of his eyes as she nodded back with an “okay” before she made her way back to his uncle’s house where hopefully Anne could do damage control.
Because apparently all he could do was cause chaos whenever he came home.
And all he could hope for was that MC would still be friends with him after this embarrassing episode. The last thing he wanted her to see him was weak as he held back his tears from the angry and hurt he felt whenever his uncle would act like this.
Then when she came up to talk to him, it seemed as if his worries were for nought. She was worried for him. While he had to explain how Solomon was like this all the time, how he was the only one who still seem to care to try to find a cure for his sister or at least make her current state better, MC never saw him as less, glanced at him as a misfit that everyone –even Ominis– did.
MC saw him as himself.
As a brother trying to save his sister.
Sebastian wasn’t hesitant to take her to the place where it all happened. Hoping that maybe she would be able to find something he couldn’t before. Nor was he hesitant to attack when he spotted Ranrok’s loyalists.
The two quickly shifted into their dueling stance when they partnered up, knowing this time there was something bigger to lose than pride here. It was here that Sebastian could finally let out all his frustration, his hurt, his anger at the very beings that caused his life to spiral downwards since Anne was cursed.
He tried to keep his best friend close to him, but soon the number overwhelmed them and they were split. Emotions powered his magic.
Sebastian wasn’t going to lose another loved one here. Not again.
It was here where he was also reminded who he was fighting with as he saw her Ancient Magic be put on display when he took down the last of his attackers that surrounded him.
MC’s eyes glowed a bright blue as she called down lighting on the commander who refused to yield, like some goddess out of a story book. The goblin commander still stood and continued to fight, but Sebastian saw that lighting blue flash of light again –the same one from he saw during that troll fight– strike the red-glowing goblin commander. He glowed purple.
A blink later, he was gone.
Nothing but ash in his place.
So awed by her display of god-like power this time around, he didn’t even notice the goblin behind her until she was wacked in the head with a frying pan and collapsed.
While Sebastian didn’t have god-like power, he had enough magic in him, enough anger to confringo the menace to death before he ran to his friend, hoping he wasn’t too late.
“Please be alive, please be alive –oh thank th’gods ye’re still breathing!” He heard himself say as he rolled her onto her back. There was a goose-egg swell that already started to develop on the side of her head.
It was a heavy reminder that for as much of a goddess in human form MC was with her Ancient Magic powers, at the end of the day, she was still human.
MC could still be killed.
Sebastian didn’t know what to do other than hold her, watch her breathe as a reminder that she was still alive. It wasn’t until she woke up that he felt all the tension leave his body like a ghost no longer processing him.
“Se-Sebastian?” She said as she opened her eyes, blinking at him.
“I’m here. How are you feeling darling?” He sniffed, never more grateful than the fact that she was alive.
That she was still here.
Sebastian didn’t lose her.
“I feel like I got wacked with a pan.” She groaned. Sebastian couldn’t help but laugh, the nerves finally getting to him.
“Good tae see that you’re still up tae make jokes. And tae remember what happened.” He said as he gave her space to slowly sit up, arms ever ready to catch her in case she fell.
“If I’m doing down, I’m– shite. Sebastian are you okay?” She said.
“A’m fine. Why dae ye ask?” He said, unable to stop the Scots accent from slipping into his posh English speech anymore.
MC frowned as she placed her hand on his cheek and wiped the tears he didn’t realize was there. “You’re crying.”
Sebastian couldn’t help himself as he pulled her in for a hug, inhaling her citrus orange perfume in, listening to her heartbeat as he laid his head against her chest. Listening to her breathe.
It was the most wonderful sound in the world.
“Ah thought ye died.” He cried as he broken down.
Her arms surrounded him, rocking him as if he was a little boy. Holding him like the six-year-old boy in him needed when his parents died.
She’s alive. She’s alive. She’s alive. He thought with each breath as she rubbed his back, soothing away a nightmare he didn’t want to re-live through again.
Never again.
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Chapter 2 <<<||| Chapter 3 ||| >>> Chapter 4
#at first glance#Kay9Leo Fanfic#A Sebastian's POV fic made to better understand how he ticks#sebastian sallow#sebastian x mc#hogwarts legacy#Tbh with this part of the fanfic written it makes it easier to understand why he calls MC ignorant in the game#Like he knows that we haven't been in the magical world for long and he lived long enough that he has personal beef with goblins#but not long enough or mature enough or had enough interactions other than violence with goblins#that it is hard for him to see that not all of them are bad when all of his experience with them is bad/ended badly#and in his mind HE IS looking out for MC and is wondering how they can ignore the number of times they were nearly killed by them#Sebastian such an awesome character because of how imperfect he is#He is also a gray character; his first priority is to those that he cares for and he'll let the world or himself burn#if it means his loved ones are safe#unfortunately he doesn't go about showing how he cares in the right way#And he is above all a teen boy#and MC here is also a teen girl#teens don't always make the best decisions they are still developing emotionally and need guidance from mature adults#poor sebastian#Edited: Note that I changed up the chapters length to match up to what I have posted on AO3#And also due to the titles of each chapter matching to the themes within each chapter#Nothing new just moving stuff around
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watched the first ep of Dead Boy Detectives today, did anyone also think the dialogue was a bit clunky?
I don't mean it was unwatchable or anything i just feel like it didn't feel realistic the way they introduced the characters and world... It felt like the dialogue was for the viewer instead of an in character thing. We were gonna be introduced to a viewer surrogate within the first few minutes, there was no need to have the characters who already know how the show's world works spell it out for nobody... and then explain it again when Crystal showed up? idk it felt like something I would write (not a complient) 😅
#the line ''we have to hide from death... or she'll get us'' was ridiculous#do you think the boy that's been escaping death since 1919 or whatever doesn't know?!#''we have to hide'' was enough the viewer can put 2 and 2 together and deduce it's bad if death sees them#to then minnutes later have them explain to crystal why they have to hide from death again...#just let the characters adress the camera if you wanna spell it out so easily#or you know... trust that the viewer is intelligent enough to wait 2 minutes for an explanation?#it was mostly just that first few mins of the first ep i think#i didn't pick up on anything else that trully bothered me#but idk it felt condecending dkjfghkdfg or simply badly written#which it was a bit of a let down to have it as a very first impression#i guess i went in thinking sandman and got like idk generic teen show#in the dialogue alone btw i actually really like the characters and the premise is awesome!#it just cuaght me by surprise#maybe it because i'm also watching fallout and the dialogue on that is like very well done and everything is a hint for something later#so i'm comparing it idk#anyways... is it just me? or was it actually clunky?#(don't spoil it past ep 1 pls)#angel talks#dead boy detectives#really liking it so far tho!
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Back with the bullshit, in today's news of 'I think these two guys don't have the greatest reading comprehension', they just compared King's writing to being in the YA style of having generally very little to no subtext and such and then as an example used the Hunger games ... and then went and promptly summarized Katniss's character in such an embarassingly wrong way I would never let myself be caught on tape with it.
To give an example for why I keep beefing with this to people who haven't read these books but have read Hunger Games; one of the cohosts thinks Katniss 'has no interiority that is not fully explored by the narrative itself' - a statement that I would not even directly disagree with, if it was not then immediately followed by the explanation of it: 'we know all of her thoughts, we know she likes kind of that weird little bread man and the big buff hunter man! she likes both men! and so that's what the novel's about, it's doing that'. And, like, mate, based on that 'analysis' of a book written for 14 year olds, I think you should in fact not be analysing anything more complicated than Stephen King novels.
#evil little holiday#like listening to these guys is in fact extremely embarrassing at times tbh#and it's just such a central pillar of the 'man don't make me defend this writing it's not good but it's also not THAT bad'#the literary chicken-and-egg of 'is this badly written or can you just not fucking read'
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watching a danganronpa-related video and i’m losing my fucking mind because this person keeps saying “eliminated” instead of killed or died. you are talking about danganronpa’s continuous themes of incest, sexual assault, and pedophilia, and you can’t bring yourself to say killed. i cant fucking do this anymore
#icarus speaks#neg#dangantag#ask to tag#it’s not even a good video 😭#like at the beginning i was on board#it was silly the premise was interesting#but then they did the one thing i hate#which is demean teruteru’s behavior (correct) while not bringing up miu at all??#and also some of their points are just. bad#like yeah some of danganronpas crimes are all the things i mentioned above#but you’re. really going to put those things on the same level as it being badly written?#like narratively?#THEY DIDNT EVEN BRING UP FUJISAKI???????
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What if Ashi met Mai?? :3
Ashi is gonna be included in POM too, so you'll eventually see her meeting Mai, Jack and the rest in the comic ✨
#Ashi's story is really similar to season 5'#with the being bad then learning she was tricked by aku and all of that#also jashi. but I think that's what changes drastically#jashi is gonna played out really differently#jashi was really badly written in my opinion. we want to save it#because it CAN work. we just really need to play it logically and without changing the characters' mindset and behavior etc#her relationship with mai starts badly because ofc ashi wants to kill jack and mai despises anyone who wants to hurt jack#but I can't say anything else without spoiling everything hehe#samurai jack#sj#samuraijack#au#samurai jack au#paws of magic#pom#jashi#jack x ashi#rad talks#jackposting#ask#answer
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I’m not a “everything before season 7 was good” voltron fan, or a “everything before the lion swap was good” fan or a “at least a handful of voltron episodes were good and moving pieces of television” fan
I’m a secret other thing (All of Voltron was bad. No seriously, I recently watched the whole thing and like I’m not even that competent of a writer and even I could tell that every single episode of voltron is either atrociously bad, insulting, or like a good concept that is handled barely competently. Like, if you want to preserve the idea in your head that any episode of voltron was good, only watch Day Forty Seven or Clear Day and skip the plot relevant parts cause that’s it. And before anybody pipes up with ‘The Black Paladins’ was good or ‘the episode where Pidge found her brother was good’ or ‘the first episode was good’, i’m sorry, you’re wrong, it was just the good animation from when they focused the budget on it [on another funny note, if you do watch the whole thing, a great drinking game would be drink every time they do the voltron transformation or that bit where they clearly ran out of animation budget and have a montage if still images slightly zooming in and out of to dramatic music, you will be pissed by the end.] They aren’t good, they really aren’t. Every single episode I watched, I said outloud to the friend I watched it with ‘yeah I think despite remembering this as bad, I still remember it being better written than this’. I will forever have beef with my best friend and Overly Sarcastic Productions for ever recommending this as having good world building.)
#i hope to god i’m not the only person in this category omg xD#i also hope none of this is controversial i have no gauge but also it shouldn’t be cause it ended like 6 years ago or so#i also think an important note is that just cause it’s bad doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy it or derive joy from it#like you can find meaning and joy in this ik i have and to a degree do but it is also written badly#it’s like loving a really camp and shit horror movie like i won’t be arguing for its quality any time soon#but i will love it forever#i will forever be entrapped by the concept of this show though#i could literally just watch any other mecha show or power rangers and i will still be here with voltron#voltron#vld#voltron: legendary defender
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Okay here’s another controversial “Green family take” tell me if I’m wrong.
“People who hate Harumi and Lloyd family dynamic ignore that Lloyd and Morro also shouldn’t have a family dynamic, when Morro did the exact same thing”
Because besties I agree I honestly think green cousins doesn’t make much sense either since yknow Morro and the whole possession thing, but at the same time if you look at canon, they just aren’t the same thing and yknow I need people to actually stop looking at Harumi as the girl version of Morro and the only reason we hate her is because she’s a girl.
Because she’s not.
Like yes I agree there’s definitely a lot of bias towards Morro, if he was woman he would be demonised to hell and back but since he’s man then he is adored, and vice versa with Harumi and sexism fucking sucks.
But Harumi and Morro are different guys. Harumi is portrayed as worse in canon in Lloyd’s eyes. Yeah Lloyd got possessed by Morro and that’s obviously bad tm but other than what people assume possession entails, Lloyd was never as shaken as he was with Harumi.
In s5, we never saw Lloyd be conflicted about the possession thing. He had no fear of Morro. We have no reason to believe that a ghost possession feels worse than being a sleep and maybe having a vague awareness of what’s going on. He barely mentions Morro after s5. And I will say I think this is a writing flaw, obviously it would’ve been cooler if Morro actually had some kind of impact on the ninja, but regardless this is the canon. Lloyd hates Morro but he’s not traumatised yknow. It’s not to the point that Harumi got to.
I feel like getting possessed should be worse than getting lied to, but Harumi did on top of it, start a cult in his name, Kill actual Characters (the royal family and Hutchins) and then kidnap Lloyd and his mother and his uncle and then resurrect his father removing vital parts of his father’s mind/personality/emotional cognitive abilities etc. on top of that she also nearly killed the ninja and wu (which Lloyd believed she did).
Somehow she was much more dangerous than Morro was, she was a much more successful villain.
Additionally I would say Morro has more of an excuse to be seen as family, even if I I’m less of a green cousins fan. Because Morro and Wu actually have a father son relationship, in which Wu was actually responsible over Morro. They had a normal albeit imperfect dynamic before Morro left. Regardless of Lloyd and Morro’s interactions, that dynamic was still present even in the very end.
It doesn’t mean and Lloyd and Morro have to be buddies, just because there’s a family connection doesn’t mean shit (this is the show of found family have we learned nothing? Blood connections don’t matter, only friendship).
But like in comparison to Harumi and Garmadon’s absolute parody of a relationship, where Harumi turns to the man who doesn’t remember what love is and asks him to be her father (at this point neither of them know what “father” even means), Morro does have a family dynamic and Harumi does not.
So in response to the original quote, Morro has a much more solid claim to any kind of family dynamic bc his relation to Wu is much more family esq, and also he was bad yeah, but the show portrays Harumi as worse especially in Lloyd’s opinion.
I just don’t like the argument that Morro and Harumi have done the same things, when the severity is definitely different imo and they aren’t just copies of each other. Imo it’s an oversimplification to reduce their characters down to each other.
#u heard it here first#spicy is not the biggest fan of green cousins or Garmadon siblings#sorry#if ppl make good content for it then I’ll let it slide but generally not a fan#i feel bad for saying it but I guess I really just don’t like Harumi as much#i feel like whenever people talk about Harumi it’s always ‘oh you hate her cuz ur sexist’#no I hate her because I don’t like how she’s written or how her character is established#like Ik some people like her backstory but I just don’t#it just feels like the writers went ‘let’s blame the characters for no reason’#and I’m just so sick of the evil love interest trope I hate it so much and that is what Harumi is on s8#because it’s happened 3 times now#THREE#PIXAL SKYLOR HARUMI#It’s that mindset of women are evil they’ll seduce you with their crimes against human nature#okay that tag is gonna sound very appealing to the gays on here but like in the context of the show it’s just demonising women#like take out the romance aspect and fix Harumi’s backstory and maybe I’d like her more#i will say Morro is badly written also he does nothing interesting really other than his backstory#i like what he means about wu but like they do not even explore that dynamic much in the show#he’s like an unopened present#his set up is so good but they don’t do shit with it#idk idk#obviously all my opinions#ninjago
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#cont thoughts of my last rb but. i think ppl are so quick to say that teruko is a badly written character bc of her role in the story??#idk how to explain it but. yeah bsd isnt the best at writing female characters and theres hints of misogyny here and there#but ppl always say teruko's entire character is a product of misogyny and that is just. not true.#prob bc people focus too much on the fact that shes a rare female character idk#yeah shes extremely dedicated to the hunting dogs and fukuchi. her LEADER. i dont think thats misogyny#people dont say that about chuuya being extremely loyal to the mafia 😭😭#'her having to give the credit to fukuzawa for killing fukuchi is so misogynistic!!!' except youre ignoring what that scene is really about#it's about two kinds of people. how fukuzawa couldnt kill out of love vs how teruko killed because of it#it's about the fact that SHE can do it. shes strong enough to. SHE understands whats necessary. SHE pushed her feelings aside.#which i thought was amazing. it really solidified her role as a SOLDIER which was how she was introduced. shes VICE CAPTAIN of the hd i fee#like people always forget that.#it's also rare to see a female character act on smth that isnt emotional cause it's always male characters pushing aside their grief for th#better. i loved that we were shown how fukuzawa who is stone cold and an ex assassin CLDNT do it while teruko who is explosive and emotiona#could!! it was an interesting side to both their characters#thats not to say teruko isnt a victim of misogyny. cause people do hate her for traits they love in other characters (shes very similar to#ranpo and chuuya and jouno off the top of my head)#but to say that her entire self is a result of misogyny is doing a disservice to her character#and shows that you cant look past her relationships with male characters idk#saying she doesnt have anything outside male characters is so untrue i cant stand that argument. bc SHE DOES. youre the one not seeing it#her role during the skyfall arc was amazing how do we forget that#anyway sorry. to each their own ofc im not defending bsd's occasional bad writing#but teruko get behind me djhfjhd
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