#and is just so mean to Leia and Gwen
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bathenaswopez · 2 years ago
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thatseventiesbitch · 3 days ago
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Hi I have a question for you. If that 90’s show was centered around Eric and Donna not red and kitty how do you think the show would have gone?
Thanks for the question! I'm sorry it took a while for my response. I live with two screaming drool monsters who hate sleep 😭
This is interesting to think about. Setting aside the real-life logistics (Topher's and Laura's availability and desire to lead the show), overall, I think the show would have been just as successful, if not more, if Eric and Donna were the main adults instead of Red and Kitty. There was quite a bit of clamoring/demand for more of the "OG Gang" to be featured on That '90s Show when it was airing, and Topher and Laura still had great chemistry with each other and each had it with Callie/Leia as well. I think Red and Kitty were a very important piece, too, though, and they would have needed to still feature in some way (i.e. guest appearances) for fans to be satisfied.
Assuming the other characters would have been mostly the same, just in Chicago instead of Point Place, I think season 1 could have gone something like this:
14-year-old Leia Forman starts high school, and meets her ragtag group of friends on her first day of school. Sheltered and naive, Leia attended a small Catholic school for grades K-8 but begged her parents to let her attend the local high school when she reached grade 9. She meets Gwen first, in homeroom, and Gwen takes Leia under her wing and introduces her to all of her friends. They get busted partying with their keg in the first episode, leading to Leia offering up her family's basement as their new hang out spot.
Leia's friendship with Gwen remains at the forefront for the first season. Just like on the original version of the show, Leia is immediately impressed by Gwen and idealizes her. Gwen is everything Leia wishes she could be: cool, confident, rebellious, fun. They quickly become best friends.
The Forman family lives in a bungalow-style house in a northern Chicago neighborhood. Eric is a math teacher at the local high school, and Donna writes for the Sun Times. They are loving parents, if not a little overbearing towards their only child. Eric's storyline with Leia revolves around struggling with her growing up and her fledgling independence. She used to be his little buddy and they spent so much time together, but now Leia is an adolescent and is naturally inclined to spend her time with her peers and friends. Donna helps Eric process his (very normal!) feelings of loss around this, and also encourages him to trust their daughter. She encourages Leia to make new friendships and have some harmless teenage fun, but still holds some boundaries in order to keep Leia safe. By the end of the season, her parents help Leia realize that she is 'cool' in her own ways, and she has as much to teach her friends as they have to teach her.
I think Eric could be sort of the pseudo father figure to Nate that Red was early on, and this might make him feel more favorably/attached to the new gang (who Eric initially resents for taking his daughter away from him). He realizes they're good kids who are struggling with the tribulations of growing up, the same as he and his friends were back in the day. He decides to be for them what his parents were for them: a safe place to hang out, and a gentle guiding/parental hand. A task aided by the fact that he is a math teacher at their high school (kind of veering into Girl Meets World territory just because of his profession, but school wouldn't be the main setting of the show, just occasional glimpses like T70S was). I think Donna would have some sort of arc with Nikki that is similar. They have a lot in common and Donna would be a good confidante and influence on Nikki, whose parents aren't particularly supportive of her dreams (but mean well).
Eric and Donna's storylines are mostly in regards to parenting Leia (and eventually, the whole gang). It would be fun to see what their relationship to Sherri would be like. I think similarly to Red and Kitty, Eric would be annoyed by her but she and Donna would become friends. There would also be stories about them navigating their careers. Eric struggles to motivate and relate to his teenage students, and to know when to butt out and when to be hands on with Leia and the gang. Donna publishes her first book, fulfilling a lifelong dream, but wonders what comes next.
Red and Kitty show up in Chicago for a visit, and have a storyline with Eric and Donna ala the "you're upstairs people now" moment. Grandpa Bob shows up for a visit, too, with a much younger GF in tow. The GF sows chaos for an episode when she has a "Pam Burkhart"-esque effect on Jay and Nate (and even Ozzie???). Fez is established as a reoccurring character who runs a hair salon not far from the Formans' house. He ends up becoming a mentor of sorts for Ozzie (to Eric and Donna's horror) as he navigates being comfortable with his sexuality. Fenton plays a character at Leia and the gang's school, who always seems to appear at the most inopportune times to ruin their hijinks. Jackie and Kelso don't make their cameo appearance until the very end of the season. Leia and Jay, who have been flirtatiously testing the waters all season, finally have their first kiss on the hood of the Formans' car. Eric walks right into it and has a meltdown. Which is only made worse by Jay’s parents showing up, and the revelation that the kid sucking his daughter's face off is freaking Kelso's kid. /End season
This was a fun exercise! Thanks for asking, anon. 😊
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comrade-emma · 11 months ago
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Is attachment always bad?
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All the discourse about attachment being love or not and the “greater good” in the SW fandom has gotten me thinking about Ben 10. Specifically the Ultimate Kevin and Dagon arcs from Ultimate Alien. I sort of used the former as a pro attachment story in a discussion with a pro Jedi blog a while back, that I since deleted. It can definitely be read as a rebuttal of “kill one person for the greater good” and both arcs are an example of love saving someone from evil.
The Ultimate Kevin arc is one of the most controversial in the show, particularly Ben’s decision to kill Kevin with there being a lot of debate over whether it was OOC for him to do so. Ben is normally the Luke type character who tries to save everyone with Kevin and Gwen being the Han and Leia of the group. However, after repeatedly failing against Aggregor which led to Kevin having to absorb the ultimatrix, driving him insane and causing him to go on a rampage, Ben believes destroying Kevin is what’s best, blaming himself for Kevin mutating and Grandpa Max, who’s the Obi Wan/Uncle Ben type mentor in this show, agrees with it as the only “responsible move”.
Gwen, who’s Ben’s cousin and Kevin’s girlfriend, is the only one with faith in him and wants to save him. Talking to him fails but she is able to enlist the help of their friends to build a machine to cure Kevin. Her love for Kevin was what saved his life as Ben was prepared to kill him after a brutal battle and she managed to convince him to let her try. Kevin was cured, he and Ben quickly reconciled and the aliens Aggregor had absorbed who Kevin drained the power from were also restored to life. Some could say this wasn’t attachment but Gwen’s love for Kevin saved his as well as multiple lives despite everyone telling her to let him die for the “greater good”.
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The other arc in question is the Dagon arc. Once again, Ben is faced with a test of spirit. Vilgax, who’s kind of like the emperor in this story, tries to manipulate Ben into using the sword, Ascalon, and the power of Dagon he absorbed to remake the universe in his image. Wipe out anyone he sees as evil. One could use the “greater good” argument to say he should destroy all evil, but what would that do to one’s soul? Ben does end up letting go of the power but he does that because of his love for the people in his life.
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Julie, his girlfriend, gets him to stop and think about what he’s doing, pointing out that he can’t force his answers on everyone. Ben reflects on his journey throughout Alien Force/Ultimate Alien and the people he’s met along the way. Making his decision, he only uses the power to turn the esoterica back to human and rejects it. Had he abused the sword, he could have become a dictator, obsessed with order, but his love for his girlfriend, cousin and best friend convinced him to let go and realize he can’t strip free will from anyone, even the villains.
Some will respond that these are examples of selfless love and not attachment but are they really? Gwen was willing to throw her life away to save Kevin despite him attacking their friends and becoming extremely dangerous. Julie’s refusal to let Ben be corrupted was what saved him. People will say attachment isn’t love and it’s selfishness. One could argue Julie and Gwen were being selfish but were doing so because they didn’t want their partners to be executed or corrupted. Watching this as well as movies like Weathering With You and Across The Spider-verse begs the questions, is attachment always just greedy and can it save people’s lives or souls? And is it really fair to sacrifice one person who may mean everything to someone else to save the world?
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stedefxckingbonnet · 2 years ago
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requests info/intro!
hi, everyone!
i thought i'd take a quick second to introduce myself and to also formally open up requests. i'm already working on a few things, but requests really do always help and feel free to submit them at any point--but, we'll get to all of that in a moment!
my name is lavinia, and i am a uni student studying both theatre (dramaturgy specifically) and creative writing! i love to sing, act, write (obviously haha), read (i am a huge fan of classic literature, as well as donna tartt, mona awad, sally rooney, elif bautman, and ottessa moshfegh's works), go to concerts, go to the movies, style/design clothing, paint, collect records/cds, and so much more! this barely scratches the surface really but, if any of you share these interests, always feel free to reach out!
anyhow, as i said, i will officially be opening requests, and at the moment here is the media and the characters i will write for:
Our Flag Means Death
Izzy Hands (my BELOVED)
Ed Teach
Stede Bonnet
Lucius Spriggs
Jim Jimenez
Oluwande
Mary Bonnet
(more available upon request! these were just sort of my first instincts.)
Gilmore Girls
honestly, i'm pretty open to anything unless it's dean. just request and i'll see what i can do!
Gossip Girl
Blair Waldorf
Serena Van der Woodsen
Dan Humphrey
Nate Archibald
Chuck Bass (like sometimes)
Rufus Humphrey
more available upon request.
The Fosters/The Good Trouble
Callie Adams Foster
Mariana Adams Foster
Brandon Foster
Jamie Hunter
Gael Martinez
Dennis Cooper
Malika Williams
more available upon request.
Select Wes Anderson and Tim Burton characters. just ask!
Enola Holmes
Enola Holmes
Tewkesbury
Sherlock Holmes
Little Women (2019)
Jo March
Amy March
Beth March
Meg March
Laurie
Friedrich Bhaer
Star Wars
Obi-Wan Kenobi
Anakin Skywalker
Padmé Amidala
Luke Skywalker
Han Solo
Leia Organa
Kylo Ren
Finn
Poe Dameron
Ahsoka Tano
more available upon request!
Pride & Prejudice (2005)
Basically me just saying I'll write Mr. Darcy. but more characters available upon request, of course.
Community
Abed Nadir
Troy Barnes
Annie Edison
Jeff and Britta I'm a little iffy on but with the right request, maybe. don't hesitate to ask!
The OC
Seth Cohen
Ryan Atwood
Summer Roberts
Marissa Cooper
The Umbrella Academy
Klaus
Viktor
Ben
Five
Diego
Allison
Luther is like, not preferred for me but if you feel strongly about him and have a good request, i’ll consider it but don’t get your hopes up too high!
Once Upon a Time
Emma Swan
Regina Mills
Killian Jones
Neal Cassidy
August Booth
Jefferson (The Mad Hatter)
Mulan
Ruby Lucas (Red Riding Hood)
Belle French
Mary Margaret Blanchard (Snow White)
David Nolan (Prince Charming)
Peter Pan
Robin Hood
Any others, feel free to ask! I know I left Mr. Gold (Rumple) off, but that's only because it depends with each request. Also, please specify if you want it to take place in Storybrooke pre or post curse, or in The Enchanted Forest.
Merlin
Merlin
Arthur
Gwen
Morgana
Nimueh
Lancelot
any others, feel free to ask. i am just starting S2, keep that in mind.
The Holdovers
Angus Tully
Dead Poets Society
Todd Anderson
Neil Perry
Knox Overstreet
Charlie Dalton
Steven Meeks
Love Lies Bleeding
Lou Langston
Jackie Cleaver
i'll just start there for now, as honestly it's been a bit since i've written an x reader and i don't want to overwhelm myself much! but please, feel free to request at any time! I will update this frequently, as I am always either getting into new things or remembering things I already love. I am mostly dedicated to OFMD right now, but you may also leave requests for other fandoms and I will keep them on file, or who knows, perhaps even get to them sooner than you may imagine! Have a wonderful day (or night!), and don't forget to request!
yours truly,
lavinia
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me filing through all of your requests (hopefully!)
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cursed-princess-club · 2 years ago
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Hellu, hi, it's a me!
We miss cpc, I miss cpc and so my mind has been frolicking about somewhere and a thought occured.
What do you think CPC genderbend names would be? Like ofc Whitney fits perfectly either way. BUT I wonder, what names would work bc my brain is currently not working and conjuring up names like Fredolina and Blainia for some reason.
I'd like to say I am and will never be good at naming things, my new pokemon file is proof of that.
I'm also curious about the harder names like Calpernia, which is latin and not as popular or well used as the alternative Calpurnia which is Julius's wife. But tbh I dont wanna call male Calpernia, Julius nor Caesar.
WAHH GOSH I MISS CPC TOO </3 it's been months... the blorbos will be back soon ....i believe in them...
(on the pokemon files: I FEEL YOU LMAOOO the way i choose names i just. go with whatever i think of at the moment)
mocha n' i did some brainstorming on this together... and came up with gregory for gwendolyn (greg and gwen both the shorter version!!), plus mario for maria and lorenzo for lorena ofc. i think it would be funny if jamie was just the Same with the added funny of the twins having the white names haha- BUT mocha came up with jaye for jamie!! which is awesome cause like it can be heard as just Jay but it also has an E at the end which is JUST like jamie
plaid princes time!! i LOVE bianca or blaire for blaine. blaire maybe more since it's only a letter off, but they both have that Rich Mean Girl vibe. or at least blaire does. bianca though ... i could totally imagine fitting with blaine's ogre of the opera look?? BIANCA: cool and dark and mysterious n shit!!
lance: lana, leia, lane, something like that i think works!! this is kinda a stretch but i hc lance's full first name being lancelot and lancelot -> charlotte ( because of the lot Ha)
FREDERICK!! there's fredericka obviously but i love the vibes of francine for frederick, feels very nice and bookish like he/she is. and the fran nickname!! :)
for prez we were lookin at names with cal and that brought us to Calvin and Callum and could you imagine. caesar does have some sort of symbolism narrative sense maybe but it's also freakin caesar like no wonder you'd prefer to be called prez at that point (I JEST) please envision caesar!prez constantly having to hear everyone's stabbing jokes on the ides of march
jack = jacqueline and leelathae = leeamtham, misheard as liam like how we got lilyth
hmmm that's all i got for now!! i'd love to hear what everyone else thinks :D
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thestupidhelmet · 9 months ago
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If I could get rid of any T90S character it would be Ozzie. He was such a walking stereotype whose only job was being sassy and barely had a personality and storyline of his own. Which is sad because T70S was so good at subverting stereotypes in the early seasons- Donna is one of the guys but girly, Jackie is a girly mean girl but also smart and a badass when she wants to be, Hyde and Red are assholes with hearts of gold, the girl next door goes for her geeky best friend over the bad boy, Kelso is clueless about life but surprisingly good at math etc. Yet T90S seemed to be just stereotypes.
In T9S season 1, Ozzie is generally not well-integrated in his friends' storylines. His role is the sarcastic, snarky commentator on the action. His own storylines in season 1 don't generally involve his friends. He's either alone or paired with Kitty.
What bothered me the most about the way Ozzie is written in season 1 is his lack of true connection with his friends. He accompanies them to places, but he's portrayed as if he believes he's above them and merely tolerates their presence. The first season doesn't establish why he's in this group beyond meeting Gwen in detention.
Ozzie's analog in T7S is Fez. He's the insightful commentator in season 1 and the outsider (literally a foreign exchange student with a name given to him by his friends that means that very thing), yet his friendship with and connection to Hyde is firmly established early in the season. He forges a connection with (and develops a crush on) Jackie early, too, and he has a specific antagonism toward Kelso.
Unlike Ozzie, Fez is well-integrated into his friend group from "That '70s Pilot" (1x01). His personality is depicted as more than an outsider commenting on his friends' lives. He's an important part of his friends' lives and vice versa.
Fortunately, season 2 of T9S does the work it should've done for Ozzie in season 1. It develops his friendships with Jay and Nate, and his storylines involve them and Nikki.
The fact season 2 has sixteen episodes vs. season 1's ten allowed for these development more easily, but Ozzie could've (and should've) had emotional connections to at least two people in his friend group in season 1. Him crying over Leia leaving when the summer (and season) is over comes out of nowhere. Perhaps that was the point, in order to generate laughs, but the absence of his emotional connection with his friends throughout the season was due to bad writing (decisions, imo).
The more connection he develops with his friends in season 2, thee better integrated his storylines are with his friends' storylines, the more likeable he becomes. Instead of merely being a snarky punchline giver, he's a more rounded, fleshed-out character.
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mesillusionssousecstasy · 11 months ago
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That 90's Show : season 3
The show is so hilarious.
Unfortunately, there is only 8 episode not enough!
Some quotes:
"- Guys, we're good. We were just innocent little kids left under the care of this reckless guardian. (Ozzie) - No, no. I'm not going down like that. I will throw you all under the bus." (Bob - Episode 1)
"- I feel so bad. (Leia) - This is why I'm happy I was born without a conscience. (Ozzie) - You sound like a serial killer. (Gwen) - They get stuff done." (Ozzie - Episode 1)
"- Did you get the autograph? (Ozzie) - Nope. We're going home with nothing. (Leia) - Not nothing. Something great happened to me, and that's all I care about." (Ozzie - Episode 1)
"- I wan to the store to get condoms, and I really needed this." (Episode 2)
"- I know you think I'm being silly, but if something means a lot to me, I would like to think it would mean something to you." (Episode 3)
"- You're making this literally impossible. - We love each other, but... - This is the divorce speech. Gotta get some new material." (Episode 6)
"- Come on, Grandma. Lying in court is a big deal. I can't do it. (Leia) - Oh, please, this is traffic court, not the O.J. trial." (Kitty - Episode 6)
"- I got nowhere with Leia. We raised her right. Now we're paying for it." (Kitty - Episode 6)
"- Bob, did you hear? I lost my license through no fault of my own. So, I'm gonna need people to help drive me around." (Kitty - Episode 6)
"- Oh man, he is not going to like that. (Nikki) - If we're pointing out the obvious now, you need to blend your foundation. I'm freaking out, and I don't have the energy to pretend to be nice. Nikki, you're not even trying . Not caring about other people's problems is my thing. Get to lookin'! (Ozzie) - Episode 7)
"- Hold up. School's starting tomorrow? Why is it starting on a Saturday? (Sherri) - Do you just wander through life until someone tells you what day it is? (Red) - I'll be honest. Most days, you don't need to know what day it is." (Sherri - Episode 8)
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charlieconwayy · 1 year ago
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now that we finally have s2 of t9s can i ask for your headcanons of jeia in this season? 🤭🤭
hi!! so I honestly feel like i'm completely lost on what I think is happening in the future? if you're asking for predictions, sadly idt I have any other than I think that they're hinting at #that ship getting together in pt 3, which makes little to zero sense considering they spent no time on them whatsoever. people rly building this nothing ass ship up over a SINGLE Convo they had....and by people, this allegedly includes the writers!! (callie hinting she's team n*ia is not a shock by any means whatsoever since she and max are close, but still smh)
headcanons that i'm choosing to believe tho? here's a couple of fun ones!
leia gets super into the idea of rock music (which in her mind, is anything not super pop/mainstream) and wants to impress gwen so they have more in common and asks jay to teach her to play the guitar! (she is rly bad. to everyone else. he thinks she is rly good.)
donna loves jay, which infuriates eric. she's charmed by him and sees how much he genuinely adores leia. eric doesn't gaf. that is michael kelso's son and casey kelso's nephew. its such a passionate hate that red finds himself sticking up for jay, has an existential crisis over what just came out of his mouth, and also gives eric an existential crisis bc if RED is defending a KELSO, he must actually be okay.
leia frets over what to do for jay for his birthday for legitimately a full month prior. she talks gwen's ear off, ozzie forbids her from bringing up the word "jay" in front of him. like its bad for her. she attempts to throw him a party at that cute lil place in the forest they go in s1 (i think was the same place in s2?) but it's literally the biggest failure w everything going wrong in typical sitcom fashion and she leaves crying bc she is so sad :( episode ends with them watching a movie in the basement snuggling on the couch and jay telling her it's his best bday ever!!
these were only three but I hope you enjoy :')
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sweetbuckybarnes · 2 years ago
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Leia's Wedding
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Summary: Jay never knew how much Leia truly means to him before she nearly walked down the aisle and married somebody else.
Pairings: Leia Forman + Jay Kelso
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Jay met Leia Forman when he was 15, but he didn't know how much of an impact Rec and Kitty Forman's granddaughter was going to have on his life.
When Leia came back for her summer visit in 1997, they ended up sleeping together. It didn't take long to get around the group.
And Leia never heard the end of it from Gwen.
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But, she dropped the bombshell of the decade on the gang when she arrived in Point Place, Wisconsin in 2002. She still drove her father's old Vista Cruiser, but a man was sitting in the passenger seat.
Saying that she was going to be getting married at the end of the summer.
And Jay didn't like her fiancé.
Not one bit.
He was an arrogant asshole who looked down his nose at anyone in town, her friends, him, her parents but especially her grandparents.
Mainly Kitty.
He doesn't know what he has against Leia's sweet grandmother, who went back to work years after she retired and watched over the gang throughout their high school years.
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Jay decided it was his last chance to win Leia back. But, he found her sobbing in the bridal holding the cufflinks that were special in her family (he remembers her saying they were 'blessed' by... someone... she didn't know the whole story).
"Leia?" Gently shutting the door behind him so he doesn't startle her, he walks along the plush carpet wearing the new dress shoes he bought for this occasion. "What's the matter? You're getting married in 10 minutes!" He tried to sound enthusiastic, but he knew his heart wasn't in it.
"He had this whole plan, he was going to move us to Australia! I'd never see my family again. Or you... guys."
Jay wanted to rip the asshole's head off. It was obvious that Leia loved her family. Kitty obsessed over the arrival of summer and Leia's time in Point Place. He may not show it that often, but Red loved spending time with his granddaughter. He's the one who went down to the dreaded DMV after her 15th birthday (even after getting pulled over by the police for expired licence plates) and got her learner's permit and started teaching her how to drive. Despite being 'half dumbass', she passed the first time.
"Oh, Leia. I'm so sorry," no matter how much he hated Leia's now ex-fiancé, he knew she loved him. And the fact he was willing (almost happy) to tear her away from her family and friends, seemed to have pulled the veil away from her eyes.
There was thudding coming from the corridor, followed by repeated knocks.
"Leia! Please, just listen to me! I know we can work our way through this!" The asshole was trying to make Leia see his 'sense'.
Not on Jay's watch!
He got up from where he was and sat on the floor with Leia, ignoring her please for a moment and threw open the door. Leia's ex came face to sternum with Jay (who had a shocking growth spurt and stood well over a head above Leia).
"There's no way in hell, Leia would ever go back to you. Not if it's the last thing I do."
"Jay, just let me speak to him," Leia had come up behind him. When she stood next to Little Kelso, she came just above his heart.
Jay let out a deep breath, as Leia came around him, staring up at her ex-fiancé with a look Jay didn't recognise - but the sly smirk on his face made him bristle. He thought Leia was going to take the asshole back until-
Thwack!
Leia punched her ex square in the face. "I never want to see you again."
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Through Gwen, it was determined Leia would get the non-refundable honeymoon to the Maldives.
Gwen also suggested that Leia take Jay with her.
Unsurprisingly to either the gang or Leia's family, Jay and Leia had gotten back together.
And this time, it would stick.
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queengalaxia69 · 2 years ago
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Hi! Hru? Just curious but do you take any drabble requests? Oh and what are your t7s and t9s (if you watched) ships?
Hiya there, I was (still) busy with my work and friends but I'm alright! Thank you for reaching out to me. I usually do not drabble or general requests since I’m uncertain about my writing skill. Someday, I would post the fanfic that I have been writing. (Psst- It's about That 70 Shows…)
To answer your question,
That's 70 Show's favorite ship:
Canon ship:
Jackie/Hyde
Kitty/Red
Brooke/Michael
Donna/Eric
Fez/Candy (I mean I’m ok with him dating girls or guys but I’m not engrossed in his dating life.)
Non-canon ship
Jackie/Eric
Jackie/Donna
Caroline/Eric (because reading fanfiction about them is damn good, how I can resist it-)
That's 90 Show’s favorite ship:
Canon ships:
Kitty/Red
Donna/Eric
Non-canon ships (hope they could make it happen):
Leia/Gwen
Gwen/Nikki (They give me a bizarre similar to Jackie/Hyde dynamic. Can't wait for the turn of season two out.)
I'm still waiting for more seasons and episodes of That's 90 shows. So I can conclude my favorite individual ship.
Fun facts: I loathe Jackie and Hyde together from the beginning even their first prom together. I do think they are so creepy and unnatural relationship because Hyde and Jackie are completely opposite. Burnout and princess. Stoner and cheerleader. ‘I don't care and don't trust the government’ guy and ‘Give me attention or I will scream’ girl. And Jackie and Kelso are my used to my favorites. Ew. Until they captured my heart moment when Hyde and Jackie slept together without sexual interaction after Jackie’s home started to downhill. I start to realize that Jackie and Hyde do have in lot common that I would expect it.
Thank you for your message! Hope this answers your question! 💕
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oncominggstorm · 3 months ago
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Are there any ships you ship that you haven't already told me about?
I can't even remember what all of my ships are let alone which ones I've told you about 😝
I'm just gonna make you a list of everything I've watched/read that I have ships for & list that 🤷‍♀️
I'm pretty sure you already know what I ship for Doctor Who, Pokemon, the The Fosters, and Ted Lasso so I'll leave those out
And just a disclaimer these are not necessarily like, hardcore ships. A lot of these shows/books I haven't watched in a long while and rarely think about tbh. But I just listed any pairings that I like enough to be like, "yeah I ship that," even if it's not one I care about enough to ever like, engage in fandom for it or w/e
Our Flag Means Death: Stede/Blackbeard
Good Omens: Crowley/Aziraphale
Merlin: Merlin/Arthur and also Arthur/Gwen
Abbott Elementary: Janine/Gregory
Brooklyn Nine Nine: Jake/Amy
The Good Place: Eleanor/Chidi
Jane the Virgin: Jane/Michael (and SOMETIMES Jane/Rafael but not always lol, depends on the season)
New Girl: Nick/Jess
Parks and Recreation: Ben/Leslie
What We Do in the Shadows: Nandor/Guillermo
Percy Jackson books: Percy/Annabeth
The Raven Cycle books: Blue/Gansey
Star Wars: Finn/Poe, Han/Leia, Anakin/Padme, and also Anakin/Obi Wan
Ok that's everything I can think of off the top of my head. I guarantee that's not actually everything but it's the best I can come up with 😝
Thanks Marce :)
It's Sleepover Saturday
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bathenaswopez · 1 year ago
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My take on Nate and his relationships with his parents
With Sherri, it’s hinted that she’s never really had a stable relationship, which while I believe has affected Gwen more than Nate, I also feel that it has affected Nate as well.
But I don’t necessarily see that resentment towards Sherri the way Gwen seems to have. I actually feel like he’s pretty close with her, but doesn’t have a kinship like with Brian. But I also believe that her failed relationship with Brian was what affected Nate's view on relationships in general and he doesn’t want to repeat the same patterns as Sherri and wants that forever love.
Speaking of Brian, I definitely believe that Nate idolizes him. Especially with how he talks about him in Summer Storm.
Nate: Ah. Who wants to try some fancy candy? My dad sent me a whole box of cool stuff from Japan. He plays baseball over there. Kind of a big deal.
Gwen: He's the oldest player in the league. He does adult diaper commercials over there.
Nate: I don't get why that's not cool.
But Brian also barely checks in Nate and is there for him, which probably affected Nate's relationship with Nikki. He's scared that she'll leave him behind when she goes off college.
Nate: Nik, I'm kind of freaking out about us. You've been spending time with Trevor...
Nikki: Trevor? Nate, there's nothing between me and Trevor. You know I don't like muscular guys.
Nate: I don't know how I feel about that, but... It's not just him. It's all this other stuff. The SATs, the studying. I'm afraid you're gonna leave me behind.
Nikki: Nate, I'm not going to college to leave you behind. I'm... I'm going to college so I can have a future.
Nate: Am I in that future?
Nikki: Well, the future's not set. There's no fate but what we make for ourselves.
And also this moment in Boyfriend Day One:
Nate: I can't imagine not being with you. I need you to tell me we're always gonna be together.
Nikki: Hey, come here. Babe, I don't know what's gonna happen. All I know is that I love you. And I hope that's enough.
He's scared of being left behind and needs that validation that he won’t be abandoned. So he doesn’t want to think about not having a forever with Nikki. And once again, Nate CRAVES stability since he never had it as a kid. Which is also shown in Kids In America during his talk with Leia:
Nate: My first breakup felt like my heart was getting ripped out of my butt, so...
Leia: And it made it even worse that everyone was agreeing with Jay.
Nate: Not everyone. Look, I was in a tough spot 'cause Jay's my best friend, but I agree with you. You do? Yeah. And then Nikki chimed in talking about living separate lives, and... I got worried I'd get my heart ripped out of my butt again.
And also:
Nate: Yeah. I mean, what's more powerful than love? Maybe lightning. But that's it.
Leia: If two people are meant to be, then they can survive anything.
Nate: Exactly.
Leia: Do you know how lucky it is to find that special person? Someone who you feel comfortable with?
Nate: And someone you can talk to.
Leia: And everything's just easy.
Nate: Right. I mean, someone who just...
Leia: Gets you?
Nate: Yeah.
This also shows Leia’s view on love and relationships but not the point rn.
Nate finds that kinship in Leia and feels validated in his feelings. But also the issue is that even in a different relationship, that feeling won’t magically disappear. It’s up to him to be honest and let go of that fear in order to be happy.
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gingersaurus · 2 years ago
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I was having trouble getting in That 90′s Show, for the main reason being the continuity errors of the timeline.
You see, The final episode of That 70′s show ended on New Year’s Eve 1979/1980.  Leia is a teenager in 1995.  Which raises the obvious question, HOW OLD IS LEIA, WHEN WAS SHE CONCEIVED, AND WHO IS HER BIOLOGICAL FATHER???
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Eric wasn’t in the final season of That 70s show.  He broke up with Donna and went off to college.  In the final season of TSS (1979), Donna was dating a guy named Randy, but she broke up with him just before the season finale.
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This means that if Leia was conceived anywhere between October 1979 and December 1979, She would be just on the cusp of turning 15 in the summer of 1995.  Now it feels pretty unlikely that Donna would have been 3 months pregnant during the series finale and wouldn’t have realized it, so let’s focus on the more likely scenario.  (Edit:  After watching a few more episodes, Leia has her 15th birthday in the summer of 1995.  Either she was reeeeaally premature, or Randy is her bio dad.)
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Eric came back to Point Place during the season finale, and he and Donna got back together.  This reunion resulted in them getting frisky, and Leia was conceived on New Years 1980, making her birthday sometime in early October 1980, which would mean that Leia is 14 and 9 months old during That 90s Show.  Now this brings up a lot of concerns about her drinking and smoking at such a young age, but it brings up an even bigger concern and that is:  HOW OLD IS JAY KELSO AND HOW DOES HE EXIST??????
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YOU KNOW WHO ELSE WAS NOT AROUND FOR THE FINAL SEASON OF THAT 70s SHOW??? MICHAEL KELSO!!!  And on top of that Jackie was dating Fez in 1979. Jackie definitely was not pregnant, had never been pregnant, and even if she was, how would Kelso have been the father?  And we can only infer that Jay is older than Leia, because he is friends with Gwen’s older brother, Nate.  And Nate and Jay have been friends "for 12 years”.
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So the writers are trying to tell me that Jay Kelso is 16 in 1995??? That would mean that he would have had to have been born in 1979!  And look at how much that kid looks like Michael Kelso! That’s definitely Kelso’s son, and not an adopted child.  BUT HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE IF MICHAEL KELSO DIDN’T HAVE A SON IN 1979?!?!?!?
BUT WAIT!
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MICHAEL KELSO WAS A PARENT IN 1979!!!!!
Kelso was gone during the final season because he had knocked up a girl named Brooke at a concert, and moved away to help raise his “baby girl” with Brooke.  Which means that this baby would be 16 in 1995!  Which means that there can be only one in canon explanation for the existence of Jay Kelso!
Brooke and Kelso didn’t work out, and after they broke up, Kelso moved back to Wisconsin with his child 12 years ago.  He reconnected with Jackie, and they eventually got married.  Jackie adopted Kelso’s child, and became a really great stepmom who made it clear that she loved her child unconditionally.  Jay knew how much his dad and step mom loved him, and therefore felt comfortable coming out to them as trans when he was in his early teens.  Kelso and Jackie accepted their son with open arms
Brooke was also the valedictorian, which means that when Kelso says Jay “has my looks and his mother’s brains! He gets straight A’s!” He is referring to Jay’s bio mom, Brooke.  
So in conclusion, Jay Kelso is trans, and Michael and Jackie are amazing parents.  Also Jay is probably on T because Jackie scared the shit out of some poor doctor.
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beaniebeensbaby201 · 2 years ago
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Can u do jay kelso x pregnant fem reader 💭💭❤️ and like everyone’s reaction
Also how many requests can we send xx
SURPRISE!!
Jay Kelso x reader
A/n: I do not have a limit onto how many you could send. But it will take a while as I'm a slow writer and have writers block sometimes😂.
A/N: ALSO IF YOU REQUEST FROM THE SHOW I AM ALMOST DONE I AM ONLY 4 EPISODES IN SO PLEASE DONT REQUEST SPOILERS AND THANK YOU.
Summary: The reader finds out she is pregnant and is trying to find the perfect time to tell Jay and their friends.
WARNINGS: UNDERAGED SEX(I DO NOT WANT ANY OF YOU TEENS GETTING PREGGO) ALWAYS!!!! USE PROTECTION KIDDIES! CURSING, fluff.
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It was just a normal day in Point Place Wisconsin. Jay Kelso was with his girlfriend and their friends as they were listening to Nate.
"Man, you're such a dillhole!" Y/n exclaimed from Jay's lap.
"I am not! I mean, c'mon, dude. you can't seriously think that breakfast club is better than Teen Wolf!" (The Michael J. Fox one).
Everyone groans as the two teenagers continued their argument.
"Leia. You agree with me, right?" The young Foreman stammered as she plugged her fingers in her ears.
"I CANT HEAR ANYTHING! LALALA!" Y/n rolls her eyes at the child.
"Babe?" Jay quickly got up from the couch and ran upstairs.
"You wusse!" Y/n shouted from her seat.
"Alright, fine. Their is only one way to settle this." The room went silent as y/n held a smirk on her lips.
Time skip...
They ended up watching both movies. Towards the scene of the movie where Molly Wringwald had sushi, y/n's stomach began to churn. She quickly gets up from Jay's lap as she finds her to wait to the shower in the basement.
"Woah, baby." Jay was quickly at her side holding back her hair as she hurled.
"I'm fine." She promised.
"You've been puking the last three weeks!" Gwen quickly rushed to my side as she feels my forehead.
"What the hell are you doing?" I swat her hand off of me.
"Did you get bit by a zombie? I mean, in most movies, or shows, man, you get bit you puke." Nate comments.
"No!"
"Maybe the Chinese from last night?"
"No! No!"
"Maybe-"
"I'm pregnant, damn it."
The room went silent. Jay Kelso was in utter shock.
"You knocked her up!" Leia was the first to break the silence.
"I thought-' y/n shakes her head.
"We did. But, sometimes, it doesn't always save you." Y/n bites her bottom lip.
"I can't believe it!" Jay exclaimed, throwing the smaller girl into his arms.
"You're not mad?" Jay shakes his head.
"Why would I be mad? It takes two to have a baby." Jay leans forward and plants his lips against yours.
"Party time!" Gwen exclaimed, as she went towards the radio and play some rock music.
The gang all danced as they were celebrating a new Kelso to the family.
A/n: I hope this was okay, I know it's be a little short, but let me know what you think.
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beansnsoup · 2 years ago
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Hello! Could you do a Jay kelso x reader were they are flirting and stuff around the group then the group asks if there dating then there like “no we’re just friends blah blah blah” then the group walks in to them making out on the couch?? I know it’s basic but I need more Jay kelso 😍
Not basic at all, literally adore this
"Never know unless we try."
Jay Kelso x gn!reader
Summary- You would always think the flirting between you and Jay was always a joke and would never lead anywhere, but after being called out by your friends it started to feel different.
Warnings- cheesy romance, fluff, idk what else
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"Jesus, Leia, can you do anything about the temperature of this basement, I think I might melt." Ozzie asked her, she shrugged.
You look over to Jay, "Well, if anyone is heating up this room, it's gotta be you, Kelso." You say, wiggling your eyebrows with a smirk, everyone in the room groans except for Jay.
This has been an ongoing thing for the past couple of months. It started in your 3rd period science class, Jay would complement how you handled the lab equipment in a flirtatious way, and you would respond to boost his ego. It just kept going ever since.
The rest of your friend group thought it was funny to begin with, and now they despise it. You two will sit there constantly hitting on one another to the point where Gwen pretends to gag at the lunch table.
"Why don't you just ask him out?"
She would ask you this question almost everyday.
"Because it's not like that. It's just a big joke."
She never believed it for a second. You just let it slip past your mind, though. You never paid any attention to what he was actually saying. You just wanted to have an inside thing between the two of that would last.
Cut back to now where the two of you are laughing so much to the point where neither of you can breathe, yet you're both managing to keep complimenting eachother.
The rest of the group decided to just ignore you guys and get back to their conversation. Jay grasped onto your arm for support while laughing. You noticed your breathing started to go unsteady.
You just laughed it off though, you knew that this wasn't going to go anywhere and that it was just a thing friends did.
Nothing more.
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"Okay, we're heading out. Are you guys sure you don't wanna come with?" Gwen asked both of you, "No, they're replaying all the Back to the Future movies tonight." You replied.
That was something you and Jay had always bonded over, so the flirting wasn't the only thing there. "Okay, I'll bring you home some candy, though." She said, you both replied with a thank you and bye before she left.
The TV started playing the beginning credits of the first movie, Jay wrapped his arm around you and pulled you in. You didn't think anything of it as per usual because this was a common thing.
Even though you were sort of used to it, your heart beat increased. As much as you wanted him to hold you, you didn't want to ruin what the both of you had.
You unwrapped his arm from around you and sat back up to your original position. You felt his gaze turn over to you. You tried your hardest not to look back at him.
He eventually decided to speak up, "What was that for?" You looked over to him and shrugged, he huffed. "Do I need a shower?" You giggled, he grabbed you again, this time you were facing him.
He started to lean in. You jerked your head back, "Did I do something Y/N?" You sighed, "No, I want to, I really do, but I don't want to ruin what we have."
"I mean.." He started, "Never know unless we try."
You smiled, getting back closer to him. He put his hand up to your cheek to pull you in. Your lips connected, they molded together, he created a rhythm. You were addicted to what was happening, it just felt right.
You pulled back every now and then to catch your breath and then went straight back in. You grasped his hair while one of his hands was on your waist and the other still holding your face.
You both kept going like that for a good few minutes. Then the door opened behind you guys, "Wow." Gwen let out, then she started to mock you, "They're replaying Back to the Future tonight"
Yalllll, ignore my whole blog vibe changing, I'm experimenting, also that 90s show was draining me but I LOVED writing this.
You and Jay were wiping your leftover lip gloss off and scooted away from each other. The rest of the group piled in and sat around while gwen sat in between the two of you.
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Jay Kelso could’ve easily been Kelso and Brooke’s child, especially with how Kelso describes him in “That ‘90s Pilot”. Nothing about Jay’s characterization suggests Jackie as his mother. He’s all Michael Kelso but with, say, Brooke’s sense of responsibility buried deep inside (that his feelings for Leia bring to the surface) and a love for nature (Jackie hated nature, and Kelso was indifferent to it -- except to blow it up with fireworks).
I’m not going to write a That ‘90s Show fanfic that makes it fit with That ‘70s Show canon, but I did think about how I might write one. Jay is Brooke’s son, not Jackie’s, and Red/Kitty know who he is.
Jackie and Hyde arrive from Milwaukee with their own kid -- just as Eric and Donna are leaving Leia with the Formans. So Hyde and Jackie see Eric and Donna about to get into their car.
Jackie and Hyde enter the Formans’ home with their kid, who is gay and out to their parents ... but no one else, despite Jackie and Hyde’s encouragement and putting them in a progressive private high school with a gay-straight alliance, multicultural club, openly gay teachers, etc. (Yes, this kind of school existed in the ‘90s.)
Kitty’s reaction to Hyde is similar to her reaction to Eric. Red actually hugs Hyde, which Leia witnesses (this will be important later).
Jackie and Hyde need to drop their kid off at the Formans’ for the summer because their careers are making them go from state-to-state (an unfortunate coincidence; usually if they have to travel for work, they make sure one parent is home for their kid). Not a good situation for their kid, whom they want stability for the next two months.
Leia and Jackie/Hyde’s kids are like cousins -- because she grew up knowing Hyde and Jackie as their aunt and uncle.
Hyde and Jackie, thanks to Eric and Donna, know the basics of why Leia’s staying with Red and Kitty. Hyde and Jackie, separately ask her why her life in Chicago isn’t awesome. We actually get into the depth of her feelings. Real emotional connection. She shares different things with Hyde and with Jackie, who compare notes afterward.
Jackie and Hyde think Leia might not be straight, which might contribute to her feelings of alienation in her school at home. They recognize the signs because of their own kid.
Jackie and Hyde decide to stick around for a few days while their kid settles in, which allows them to interact with Leia’s new friends, Red and Kitty, and Fez.
Since I’m sticking to the details of T9S, Fez would remain a salon owner, but he would be written as the best version of himself (a combo of T7S seasons 1 and 4, not the season 7-8 combo we get in T9S).
Jackie and Hyde connect with each of the other kids. Hyde and Gwen, in particular, bond (after some tension) on a lot of levels. There’s one aspect, though, where he thinks his sister can be of more help. He calls Angie (in between scenes), and she shows up (and has her moments with Leia, Red and Kitty, but her main scene is with Gwen).
Jackie and Nikki have a lot to talk about, and we’d learn of Nikki’s ambitions earlier than we do on T9S and the trouble that might cause for her and Nate moving forward. Jackie gives some sage advice, using Donna and Eric as the example (this would be a conversation laced with wisdom and humor because Jackie is Jackie).
Hyde asks Red how he’s going to handle having two Kelsos hanging around his house.
Red: Betsy’s more Rockwell than Kelso. She’s the only one allowed around here. Hyde: No, man. I mean Nate. Red: Nate? Hyde: He might not technically be a Kelso, but he’s a freakin’ Kelso. Good luck with that. Red: Son of a -- Kitty: Not Kelso. HAHAHAHAH!
Leia isn’t straight. I don’t want to erase her attraction to Jay, Nate, or guys. So I would write her as bisexual. Gwen is also not straight, but like a lot of kids in the ‘90s, she and Leia are unsure of what their attractions to different people mean. (Hell, like a lot of kids now, but at least there’s a lot more information -- easily accessible -- out there).
Hyde’s interactions with Oz add complexity to Oz’s character. Hyde sees in Oz the same kind of sarcastic deflection Hyde himself used as a teenager. He also can tell Oz is gay, but he doesn’t say anything about that since it’s Oz’s right to share that info himself. But Hyde tells Oz that if he continually shuts people out to protect himself, he won’t truly connect to anyone--”and those connections, man, are what life’s about.”
Oz gives Hyde a sarcastic, deflecting response, but he also takes in what Hyde said. It works through him during the season and in his interactions with Jackie and Hyde’s kid, whom Oz recognizes as gay.
Oz, who’s comfortable with his sexuality (as portrayed on T9S), approaches the subject with Jackie/Hyde’s kid They bond. They also spot the romantic attraction between Leia and Gwen but don’t say a word about it to anyone but each other (at least for season 1).
Yeah, heteronormativity is out the window in this fic. While Nikki, Nate, and Jay are all straight, Leia, Gwen, Oz, and J/H’s kid aren’t. But the story would not be an afterschool special. The kids’ sexualities are part of who they are, not who they are. This aspect of them would add to the storylines and dictate a major thread but not all the threads. 
Leia, in a conversation with Hyde, says to him, “Grandpa Red hugged you when you first got here.”
Hyde: Yeah. So? Leia: He didn’t hug my dad. In fact, I don’t think I’ve ever seen them hug. Hyde: Your dad and gramps have a few things to work out that they haven’t. Leia: Like what? Dad’s never said anything to me about it, and he tells me everything. ... Well, I guess not everything. Huh. Hyde: It’s complicated, kid. Leia: Grandpa Red doesn’t even seem to like my dad, and I don’t get that since he’s the best dad in the world -- not that you’re not a great dad, but you’re not my dad. You’re my uncle -- Hyde: Leia, it’s cool. I got it. Leia:  So ... can you tell me what their problem is? Hyde: I could, but I won’t. Leia: Why not? Hyde: It’s somethin’ you should ask Red about. Maybe it’ll knock some sense into him. Leia: Talk to Grandpa Red? I mean, I talk to him all the time -- but about my dad? Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I can’t do that. Hyde: You might be the only one who can.
This conversation leaves Leia more confused and a little scared, but it creates a significant subplot in the story.
Jackie and Hyde talk with Red and Kitty before they leave for their state-hopping summer, giving them intel they otherwise wouldn’t have. Not all the intel but some important info.
Jackie and Hyde leave Point Place, but their influence stays behind. It allows the kids to think more deeply about themselves and one another (and Leia about Red), and their arcs have a lot more depth because of it.
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