#and intersex folks

[aftonsparv-bugzz]

STOP LGBTQIA2S+ JUST INCLUDES 2 SPIRIT FOLKS ?? 😭😭⁉️🙏

[trans-androgyne]

Believing that trans people afab benefit from transmisogyny as a system is absolutely wild. Having privileges from not being the main target of it is one thing. But you really think that if the systems making up transmisogyny (transphobia, sexism, racism, and white cisheteropatriarchy in general) went away, things would be worse for me as a transmasc instead of better? We're in this fight together. Trans people can weaponize transphobia against each other, but we are not each other's oppressors. We did not build this system and it is not good for us. Direct your rightful anger at perisex cis people; otherwise, you're not punching up, you're just punching.

[ridibulous]

hey since ASAB terms are sort of becoming the next "biological (fe)male". reminder that ASAB terms simply describe what was observed and assigned by someone else when you were born. It is/was your Legal Sex. not everyone who was AMAB is a "biological male". or vice versa.

use more terms that don't exclude people! say perisex/dyadic! there's even alternative single-word terms that mean "biological (fe)male!": say müllerian! say wolffian!

expand your queer vocabulary to better describe various experiences!!! synonyms exist for a reason!! just start Looking Shit Up I promise it's so much fun! I love learning!!!!!!

[systemic-stupidity]

Hey btw

Intersexism is NOT misplaced transphobia.

The backlash we’re witnessing against intersex athletes is not because people misunderstand and think they’re trans. It’s that people hate intersex people as genetic aberrations that should be extinguished in one way or another in order to uphold the sex binary which DOESNT EXIST.

The hatred and violence against intersex people, while certainly going hand-in-hand with transphobia in many regards, is still wholly unique to intersex individuals. And that violence extends beyond just forced surgeries on infants. While that’s a huge issue and it’s great people are talking about it, intersex kids and adults also face medical violence, from being forced into hormone therapies they don’t want/need, to being misdiagnosed and made ill through treatments which don’t accommodate for non-perisex endocrine systems, to being literally assaulted by doctors to shame them for the way their bodies naturally exist.

I’m literally begging you all, as a perisex binary trans person, to give a fuck about our intersex siblings and fight for them. But most importantly TO LISTEN. GOD. So many of us perisex trans people are both uneducated and so prejudiced against intersex people and it’s disgusting. And if you’re especially offended by that statement, then redirect that offense towards educating yourself and others

[filurig]

june sillyness

[cedarnommer]

I'm apparently a broken clock since today I saw a bunch of posts on like genital discourse and I'm writing about people's junk again. Beyond the obvious of assigning social ideas to body parts, it's also worth mentioning that if you're on HRT, your genitals will not function expectedly like your AGAB. Trans mascs will experience clitoral growth. Trans femmes will experience a decrease in penis size. In either case the sensitivity and function down there also changes.

And while I'm not intersex, I do want to comment that genital discourse is especially insensitive and complex for intersex folks which may have genitals which also don't fit the sex binary. And some intersex folks may have also had invasive surgeries done on them against their knowledge or consent.

Having a penis or a vagina doesn't ascribe character traits to a person. And even "biological function" isn't rigid. There's so much variation for everyone, cis or trans, perisex or intersex. And it feels like universalist discourse only exists to put down deviants.

[bb-fennelposting]

ummm errr.....to help make up for all this rancid ableism happening......

LETS HEAR IT FOR INTERSEX MOONPAW FOLKS!!!

[satyrradio]

I fucking hate when TERFs use David Remier as an example of "evil TRAs" when, no, actually, it was the binarist beliefs that you share that influenced the doctor to preform IGM -- not a "sex change" or "gender-affirming surgery", intersex genital mutilation -- on a kid, because they believed that you could only be happy if you had the ability to have heterosexual sex. Fuck off.

Sorry for the minirant, I was just reading about it and it pissed me off as an intersex person, and it pissed me off even more that TERFs use this case as an example of "evil TRAs" instead of the very real intersexism within the medical industry.

[blusical]

Idk how to properly explain it, but the amount of attacks against Imane Khelif aren't only misogynistic, racist and transphobic, but they also *reek* of intersexism. (Also, comparing a woman with high testosterone levels throwing a punch in boxing to literal domestic abuse is fucking weirdo behavior)

[trans-androgyne]

To get a proper picture of modern trans oppression, you need to recognize the ways trans issues have varied across history and still vary heavily across places. I made a post the other day about how things have changed in my country for trans people over the past 50-100 years, but it was incredibly US-centric, a huge issue when trans discussions on here tend to be western-centric in general.

I feel most folks recognize that where things are bad for queer people generally, they're terrible for trans women and similar groups. It's illegal to be queer in one-third of all UN member countries, and in 13 cross-dressing is explicitly criminalized. Such laws have often targeted transfeminine expression specifically. And of course, Trans Rights as we know them (such as access to medical transition, ability to change gender markers, anti-discrimination laws) are a struggle in even relatively accepting countries; there are plenty of trans and other gender non-normative folks that don't have access to the most basic rights I do as a trans person in the United States. Problems trans folks face here, like trans women being forced into sex work, are even more prevalent and severe elsewhere in the world.

But fewer people seem to recognize that where things are bad for cis women, they're terrible for trans men and similar groups. There are so many places where those considered women are put under much heavier appearance and behavior restrictions than here and I can guess that trying to undergo any amount of masculine transition would not turn out well for them. Where I live, we may have gotten better than 50 years ago about not treating women as babymaking property, but there are 46 countries where marital rape is not a crime, while 40% of folks globally live under restrictive abortion laws. I know forced pregnancy as a form of controlling and detransitioning trans men and mascs happens enough where I live, and I cannot imagine what it would be like to live a transmasculine life under these conditions. I'm privileged by where I was born, and hope to find more stories of trans and gnc lives in other places. If anyone has any stories to share or somewhere to point folks towards to educate ourselves, it would be incredibly welcomed and appreciated.

[sharpth1ng]

I talk a lot about how gay I am and how much I love gay stuff but I also want to be clear- straight/het intersex folks, straight/het trans folks, and straight/het aro/ace folks are part of pride to me. You’re part of my community and you’re welcome here. Closeted and questioning people too, whatever your identity is, you don’t need to be visibly queer or know your label to have a place here.

ANYWAYS HAPPY PRIDE, STOP POLICING EACH OTHER, WE DON’T NEED MORE COPS IN THE WORLD.

Edit:

Also just. Aro/ace people in general you’re part of the community idk why some people are being weird about this

[heartless-aro]

Does anyone else find it sort of upsetting how widely popular House M.D. has seemingly become in online queer spaces with how violently acephobic and intersexist it is? Like, I don’t want to pretend that it’s only queerphobic towards aces and intersex people, because the show definitely engages in its fair share of early-2000s-typical casual transphobic and homophobic language, and I do think it’s pretty biphobic that, from what I remember of the show, they made 13 (the one canonically bisexual character) a promiscuous party girl tm.

But the show is extremely vitriolic towards intersex and asexual people, and I wish that the people who treat it like a haha funny toxic yaoi show would at least fucking acknowledge that. The show actively reinforces the ideas about intersex bodies which are used to justify the nonconsensual mutilation of intersex children. And the way the show treats asexuality is abysmal. I saw someone on here once say that it’s “funny” that House is canonically aphobic, as if it’s just a joke that the House episode about asexuality actively supports the idea that asexuals are all either liars or medically unwell and in need of “fixing”. Why is pro-conversion therapy rhetoric suddenly funny when it’s directed towards us?

I’m not saying that no one is allowed to enjoy the show at all. Hell, I used to really enjoy it too, at least before I got to the asexuality episode (shortly after finding out I’m ace and before I had ever seen even a single other representation of asexuality in mainstream media). But like. Can people at least stop outright ignoring the absolutely detrimental effects this show had on the ace community and the intersex community?

[herushingu]

Good evening, Hellsing ✝️

Its never too late to be yourself. Whether that's out in the field or on the sidelines, its all valid when you're being true to yourself. 🙏

[actualalivecreature]

you know, not being transmasc or transfem with all of the community infighting and discourse going on right now is a really interesting experience. no matter what you do, though, people will always try to group you into one of those two categories.

[angel-archivist]

It's so interesting and so exceedingly frustrating how agab is being utilized now within the queer community as a way to isolate and sort nonbinary and genderqueer folks into binary boxes that determine their moral purity levels, and their authority to do and write and exist.

The way nonbinary writers are being put under accusation of fetishizing gay men while their AGAB is continually brought up in a way that feels like queer-space-approved misgendering.

The way feminist circles that are supposedly trans-inclusive will use the word AFAB in a way that implicitly but intentionally isolates nonbinary people who aren't AFAB from joining. It's for women*.

The way the language is already flawed and leaves out intersex folks from the conversations while focusing on a binary of sex that isn't truthful.

The constant obsessing over whether someone is AFAB or AMAB and whether or not that gives them the privilege to join, do, write, or be present in certain spaces really really concerns me. How are we supposed to dismantle a binary system of gender if we can't even move past forcibly assigning and focusing on people's genders assigned at birth?

[k1ssth3mutt]

Not sure how many people this is gonna reach, but this is something I'm really curious about, because I've seen quite a few trans/nonbinary TAD fans, but I don't know if that's just content/people getting pushed towards me and doesn't represent the community as a whole.