#and in tolkienverse as a whole

[dictatorshipper]

I don't support elves especially when they are noldor especially when they are feanor or his sons HOWEVER this is very lovely and aestetically pleasing and I believe that Illuvatar wanted elven and human relationships to be as nice as in this art

haleth and caranthir’s height difference is insane, I know it

[5ummit]

SAURON's Last Fight || HALBRAND's First Fight

[thelibraryoferebor]

Rarepairs for When You Wanna Switch it Up

Woah, it's been a while since I posted, but I still haven't stopped reading tolkienverse fics, so I have a large backlog of fics to recommend. It's just the matter of getting them on a list and to you guys that's the trick...For your sanity I encourage you to consider this blog all but retired, even though I am going to try to get out the lists that I've had in the works for a while.

This list is basically what it says: rarepairs. Except, rarepair doesn't actually mean that the pairings are all that rare, just that the central pairing isn't Thilbo, Gigolas, or Barduil, since that's what I recommend the most of!

Enjoy!

~H

Spaces Between Us by Linguistic Jubilee 

|| general - 7.9k - completed - Di/D ||

Thorin pauses. “You have to understand that what I am about to say is so uncomfortable for me that I would almost rather fight the white orc again than continue, but. Dis. You must be blind if you cannot see that Dwalin stares at you the way you stare at him.”

Notes: Ok. So. I love Dis/Dwalin so much. Like I'm not even sure entirely why, but I adore it. This fic especially kinda like encapsulates all the lovely feels of the two of them and I think does really well by both characters and is just so worth reading. Even if you're initially iffy on the ship idea, give it a shot, you won't regret it. Also, mayhaps be looking at a whole Dis/Dwalin post in the future.

In Loving You With My Whole Heart by Lapin 

|| teen - 11.3k - completed - F/O ||

After the song comes on the radio, Ori is determined not to forgive Fíli. But it's not the first song Fíli has written about him, and it likely won't be the last.

Rock Band AU

Notes: This fic guys. It's just. So cute. And I love the Ori centric POV. It's desperately romantic and angsty all at the same time. I want more.

Fear and Family (Or, the One Where Kíli Is the Sensible One) by Lumeleo

|| general - 43.7k - completed - F/O;K/Ta;T/B ||

After the Battle of Five Armies, Bilbo isn't sure of his welcome in the mountain, and thus returns to the Shire as soon as he can. Somewhat to his surprise, Ori goes with him -- but it turns out Ori has his own reasons for leaving Erebor behind. Well, Bilbo's quite used to being the talk of the Shire.

The line of Durin might suffer of thick skulls, but fortunately Kíli is less stubborn than his uncle and brother, and decides to fix things, even if that means taking his newlywed wife for a ride all the way to the Shire and beyond. Of course, he doesn't yet know what he'll see there -- but he does know how to fix things. Even if it means giving up his claim to the throne.

(Let's not kid ourselves -- that's his favourite part.)

Notes: This is a bit of a fandom classic, tbh. I think that Kili is, tbh, the best part of this fic. He's so fun to read and I love the relationship between him and Tauriel (ofc) but also between him and Ori and Bilbo. The bond between Bilbo and Ori is also perfection.

One Hit by littlebrownshoe (Wolfy_Tales) 

|| general - 7.9k - completed - D/O ||

Dwalin was so busy making sure Thorin understood the gifts Bilbo graced the king with that he did not give much time to think over the items Ori gave him. It took the scribe giving Dawlin a punch to get him to finally realize.

Notes: Awww, Dwalin. That's how I felt for most of the fic, though sometimes it became an arghhh Dwalin instead. Definitely worth reading.

Settling Down by Shay_Moonsilk 

|| general - 1.8k - completed - F/O;D/N ||

Dori wants his brothers to settle down with a nice dwarf, but will he like the ones they chose?

Spoiler: Yes he does.

Notes: DORI!! He's so cool. So protective. So traumatized. I love him. And how much he cares for his brothers. Their relationship is explored and discussed in such a lovely way in this fic and I <333333 it.

I’ve Been Looking for You by Resacon1990 

|| teen - 28k - completed - D/O;T/B;D/N;Bo/N ||

It starts on the wrist when you're young. The first words your soulmate will ever say to you are tattooed in a colour, red, green, yellow, blue, any colour each with their own meaning, and the day they're said and the moment you touch your soulmate is the moment they travel up to settle on your forearm.

Five stories, five different bonds, five endings.

Notes: This fic I read a long time ago, but I remember enjoying. I believe that it follows each pair in it's own chapter which is cool. But it also has a lot of interesting discussions about soulmates and almost the impracticality (???) of it, or the ways in which the system is imperfect.

A Perfect Match by Chamelaucium 

|| general - 38.4k - completed - D/O;Bo/N;T/B ||

Bilbo tries his hand at match-making. What he doesn't expect is to find his perfect match in the process...

Notes: This is a classic trope. Almost the reverse of the Dwalin trying to get Bilbo and Thorin together fic from above. Def worth your time, a sweet little thing that just makes you feel fluffy.

In Carven Oak by bubbysbub 

|| not rated - 26.3k - completed - T/B/D ||

It's Yule time when Bilbo arrives back in the Shire- with a host of Dwarrow at his back, the sentimental lugs. Except now the assorted Aunts and Uncles have gotten quite the wrong idea in their excited interrogation, and he's stuck pretending that he's married a few of the hairy fellows.

If he could just get through the assorted required Baggins and Took social events without outing himself as a complete fibber or drunkenly attempting to kiss Dwalin and Thorin under the mistletoe, it may just be a Yule miracle.

Another attempt at writing a common trope fic that went completely off the rails.

Notes: Ok so I know this is still technically Thilbo, but it also includes Dwalin who is epic. I really love how casually the polyamory is treated in this and I think that it is a great introduction to polyamorous ships in fanfiction if you're curious about it.

Heavy with Many Burdens by moonbeam (luvsbitca)

|| mature - 39.8k - completed - D/O;T/B ||

Bilbo leaves Thorin and the company following Thorin’s words before the BoTFA unaware that he is taking more from their relationship than a broken heart. Months later Dwalin finds Bilbo in need of help in the Shire when he is delivering Bilbo’s share of the treasure. He remains in the Shire unaware that he is leaving Ori behind in a precarious situation.

Notes: This is such a sweet fic with Dwalin and Bilbo's relationship especially feeling particularly special. Poor Ori and Thorin, though. It all ends well in the end, though!

Back in My Right Place by frodomybeloved (rosequartzstars) 

|| general - 11.2k - completed - Fr/S;T/B ||

When Frodo is sick in time for Bilbo and Thorin's visit from Erebor, they spend an evening watching over him, along with a presence that has never left his side: Sam Gamgee. It is Sam who finally puts Frodo on the road to recovery with the unlikeliest of remedies— a kiss.

Eleven years later, Frodo is recovering at Rivendell, after being mortally wounded by the Witch King at Weathertop. He has been asleep for three nights, and already Sam fears he might never awaken. But when all looks dire, the same cure might be the thing to restore Frodo to life.

A story of two parallel evenings, years apart, created from art by YamBits (#98) for the Tolkien Reverse Summer Bang 2021.

Notes: One extended word: awwwwwww.

[rose-of-oz]

for the make an oc ask: Eleanor Tomlinson + Tolkienverse?? -🍂

Thank you so much for this, Alvita!! Also gonna tag my Tolkienverse lovers @xoteajays, @endless-oc-creations, @auxiliarydetective, and @reyofluke-ocs because I think they’d like this. <3 <3

NAME: Odelia Baggins.

LOVE INTEREST: Fíli Durin.

SUMMARY: Having been taken in by her aunt Belladonna and uncle Bungo after her parents had died of a fever that had nearly killed her four-year-old self as well, Odelia has been living as a Baggins of Bag End, along with her dear cousin Bilbo, for as long as she can remember. Though her near-death experience as a toddler had left her weak and often sickly, her aunt and uncle had always taken care of her, and Bilbo, though he was almost a decade older than she, had been content to find quieter ways to play with her when she could not go running around and spend hours playing games - Odelia had grown up loved, even if she did not have her birth parents, and she and Bilbo had spent so much time together as children that even now, fully grown, they were scarcely apart, living together in the same hobbit hole where they had grown up. But there has always been a difference in their personalities - while Bilbo is content to shun his adventurous Took heritage and live the typical quiet, respectable hobbit life, Odelia has always longed to venture away from the Shire and go on some grand quest, despite the fact that her own body limited her from doing many things that were typically done on noble adventures. So when the legendary wizard Gandalf comes to the Shire and convinces Bilbo to join a dwarf party set to reclaim their stolen gold from a dragon, of all things, there is no question in Odelia’s mind that she will follow along with him despite his protests - after all, this is the very thing she has been dreaming about almost her whole life, and she and Bilbo can hardly be separated when they are the truest family either of them has left. And as the journey goes on and Odelia finds herself forging genuine bonds with the other members of the party, particularly a certain nephew of the party’s leader who is just as devoted to his family as she is to hers… well, she can certainly say that this voyage is turning out to be even more than she had dreamed.

OTHER INFO:

Behold! A cinnamon roll!

As stated above, she does have some legitimate physical limitations going into the quest because she’s always been a bit weak and prone to injuries and illness due to almost dying so young, but Gandalf allows her to come along with the party (which Thorin isn’t very happy about at first) because she and Bilbo absolutely will not leave each other, and he does use his magic to help her out in situations where they have to do a lot of climbing or walking (and leaves a charm on her when he fucks off to investigate the necromancer so she can still go long distances without getting too weak).

This absolutely doesn’t mean she’s fragile, though! She’s very quick-witted and resourceful, and Dwalin even teaches her how to use a dagger so she won’t be defenceless if they get attacked, and she winds up being very good with it.

She and Fíli have the cutest relationship ever - they both basically get insta-crushes on each other and remain very blushy and shy around each other for much of the time on the road, which Kíli of course teases his brother relentlessly about.

We’re assuming a happy ending here where everybody lives - and Thorin and Bilbo get together, so he and Odelia stay in Erebor, and Odelia convinces Bilbo to surrender the One Ring to Gandalf so it can be destroyed - and eventually she and Fíli get married and have some very cute half-hobbit-half-dwarf children. Which is great for Odelia, because she’s always wanted to have children of her own and she’s a great mama! So happy endings all around. <3

send me a fandom and a faceclaim/love interest and i’ll make an oc!!

[morningnoodles]

here's a list of shows and series that i feel are really cool and have really cool fandoms but i haven't fully gotten into yet:

my qualification is i felt this exact way for many years about both tolkienverse and dimension20 and here i am an official lotr/bagginshield fancreator and also currently watching Fantasy High season 2 (ASO is my favourite IH campaign so far)

Jojo's Bizarre Adventures - one of my closest friends in college have been talking about this series for years. i trust her tastes with my entire being

The Magnus Archives - someone made a fanart with the audio recording of Jon and Martin saying the whole "it's rotten work" "not to me, not if it's you" and this has been on my radar ever since. i have listened to the first like 20 episodes many moons ago but from what i've read it'll pick up gradually. also i rarely read/watch scary stuff ok

Epic the Musical - one of my all-time favourite artists has done an animatic for one of the songs and "Warrior of the MInd" was on my musical playlist rotation at some point

Revolutionary Girl Utena - the shoujo girlies who consistently tell people that this show is not a romcom and to read the TWs and CWs for this series? so much respect for them. i'd trust them with my ao3 history and that is saying something!!

[perlen-gold]

WIP GAME

(once again I can't see my own reblog so I'm reposting this)

❤️ OooOOOOOooooh Thank you so very much @winds-of-zephyr416 for tagging me!!! <3 ❤️

I'm following your lead and rambling a bit about my writing for once 😍 (which I'm usually too shy for) but UNDER A CUT so you don't have to read it! iI do not expect anyone to express any interest in these but here are my current fanfic WIPs anyways 😏

The Silmarillion/LOTR/Tolkienverse

(it's all Angbang, yes!!!)

Lust

Gold / Flawless (I haven't truly decided on the title yet)

And Darkness Bind Them

WIPs for Ainurweek 2024: The Flame Imperishable The Two Trees The Door of Night The Void War of Wrath Timeless Halls

Dragon Age

(it's all m!fenhawke, yay!!!)

Crimson

Sans Respirer

An Incense of Blue and Gold

Ablaze

Tagging @saintstars @aidanthecryptid @gracefallingart @fuckyeahmhawkefenris @midnightprelude @teine-mallaichte @pinkfadespirit @spicywarl0ck @midnottart @cilil @sauron-kraut @melkors-defense-attorney @haedre @glowing-blue-feathermage ... and OF COURSE everyone who feels like playing! ❤️

Now, here comes the rambling:

I also don't have a classical WIP folder. All my writing is handwritten so my whole appartement, every room, bag or book is my WIP folder 😂 Once I find time to work on a story which usually takes me weeks I spend the first 12 or so hours of these searching frantically and with increasing desperation for all the little snippets and notes and slips of paper scattered throughout the chaos that is my life (including my appartment) which usually involves a few tantrums and fits of weeping.

(Writing the story afterwrds is a complete mess itself: imagine hundreds of slips of papers strewn across my table covered with writing pads and coloring pencils. I tend to write and rewrite many parts and have different versions of many, many sentences.)

But of course I have to typewrite them eventually (which involves a lot of more rewriting) so the folders on my writing noteboook ARE sorted into fandoms. (My notebooks may be the only space of my life that isn't COMPLETE pandemonium! 😅😅😅)

God, I'm so chaotic it's a miracle they still allow me to be a teacher... unleashed onto kids... 😌

[demonscantgothere]

Valian Years vs. Solar Years in regards to Galadriel's Age:

Valian Years get a little tricky in Tolkienverse sometimes because J.R.R. devised some different methods for telling them. Tolkien Gateway points out the differences between the two, and the inherent problems with one of the published versions we have as well:

In the 1930s and 1940s, Tolkien handled a length of the Valian year fluctuated slightly around a round number of 10 solar years. In the notes to The Annals of Aman, Tolkien stated a single Valian year lasts 1,000 Valian days, defined as the duration of a complete flowering of the Two Trees of Valinor. Each of these Valian days is divided into 12 Valian hours, with each Valian hour having a duration equivalent to 7 solar hours. Thus, a single Valian year would last 84,000 solar hours. As a single solar year is approximately 8,766 hours, it was easy to calculate the equivalence of 9.582 solar years for each Valian year. However, in the 1950s, J.R.R. Tolkien decided to use a much larger measurement, 144 solar years for each Valian year, and included this concept in his Appendices to The Lord of the Rings as the duration of yén, or Elvish "great year". If this new duration were applied to the earlier works, they would extend the time line dramatically: the duration of the Flight of the Noldor, which was 5 Valian Years, went from signifying around 50 solar years to being converted in about 700 solar years. So the new definition should be understood as belonging to a new conception that is completely different from the previous one, and therefore not applicable to the dates noted in previous drafts of Tolkien's writings.

source (x)

If we accept the first draft as true with what he wrote in The Annals of Aman, it would make Galadriel approximately 138 Valian years, or 1,322 solar years old, by the end of the Years of the Trees. This is a sensibly young age for an Elf, as she was still considered young at the time, and works well within the Legendarium. Which makes each Valian year approximately 9.582 solar years. So, 1 Valian year = a little under 10 solar years.

Now, if we apply what he published in Appendix D of The Lord of the Rings decades later from what he originally wrote, Galadriel's age changes massively from a mere 1,322 solar years to 19,872 solar years by the end of the Years of the Trees, meaning she goes into the First Age nearly 20,000 years old. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense, so I also consider the later draft from the 1950s (so time-wise, if not publication-wise) to be a new conception from an unreliable narrator that perhaps was devised by someone who wasn't an Elf.

Its conception of time just does not work well with the dates offered in Tolkien's earlier writings. I can't imagine it took the Elves 700 solar years to cross over to Middle-earth (those would be some lazy travel buddies, I can't even fathom it). 50 solar years just makes a lot more sense.

If Galadriel is then 1,322 by the end of the Years of the Trees, then she is 1,912 by the end of the First Age, which was 590 years long. The rings of power were forged in S.A. 1500, so we can then assume through the show that Galadriel is approximately somewhere around 3,412 years old in The Rings of Power. If we keep following that path of time, Galadriel is approximately 8,372 years old by the time the Fellowship reaches Lothlórien in the Third Age.

[feisaru]

What other media do you like/used to enjoy aside from IE, SPOP, Hannibal and german Poets?

Funny you should ask, quite a lot really. I'll tell you just the very things that come to me off the top of my head. First off, I'm surprised but all things considered, probably shouldn't be, that you didn't bring up Durarara!! because it's there alongside the media that made a very big impact on my life. The anime is cool and all but I honestly enjoy the novels a whole lot more, they provide a more nuanced view of the inherent twistedness of every character. They're all so very dear to me. Then we have Camp Here And There, the Homebound comic, Bungo Stray Dogs, Tolkienverse, Ace Attorney, the Picnic At Hanging Rock miniseries (very important too), I would count the Snow prequel novel of The Hunger Games too, the Bartimaeus books by Jonathan Stroud, Pokémon (actually huge comfort game of mine), Monster Hunters, the Riordanverse, Arcane, Nimona, Shaman King, Detective Conan, Naruto, Dance Academy (also very important), Pirates Of The Carribean... I think that's all you'll get for now but I've been reading a lot all throughout life, though probably not what one would recognize, always just what fell into my hands out of a library shelf, I was never quite aware there were books famous by internet standards before relatively recently

[skinnyscottishbloke]

Trying to organize my ask notebook better since I've run out of space under general fandom asks and I would like to know what fandoms you are in so I can ask the correct people about the correct fandoms.

I think my main ones are Bagginshield/The Hobbit, Sherlock/Johnlock, Dragon Age Inquisition, {Pippin/Faramir Merry/Eowyn}/The Lord of the Rings and I dip my toes in a few that I currently can't remember but ones I don't engage in canon at all are Good Omens but only for Crowley/Azirapheal ship, Stranger Things but only for Steve/Eddie ship, The Witcher but only for Geralt/Jaskier things and Ladybug and Cat Noir but only for Adrinette .

Also do you like getting asks that are or include story ideas or snippets?

*Asks are sent for fun, no pressure to answer within a certain amount of time or at all.

Heyaaaa!

I’m pretty multifandom tbh - I like a lot of movies and shows and books. I guess my main ones at the moment would be Doctor Who, Buffy, Tolkienverse (Bagginshield is a top pairing for me there, definitely), Good Omens (our ineffables own my whole ass heart), ATLA, Heartstopper, RWRB, Sense8, Black Sails, Bones, Leverage, a little bit of HP (I read a lot of Drarry fic), B99, Johnlock (I was deep in the Sherlock fandom for a long time, it used to be my main one, then fandom drama and s04 killed that pretty hard BUT I still love fic), BBC Merlin, Marvel stuff (more og Avengers, Daredevil, etc not really newer stuff), Rupaul’s Drag Race (I’ve seen all the US seasons, all the Allstars seasons and a solid half of all the international seasons), Jane Austen productions, period dramas in general, anything David Tennant has done, uhhhhh yeah you get the point lol. Going by my A03 bookmarks my top fic pairings are Aziracrow, Merthur, Johnlock, Bagginshield, Drarry, Elliot/Parker/Hardison from Leverage, Matt/Foggy from Daredevil, Stucky, Zutara, Doctor/Rose, Nine/Jack/Rose, Narlie, and Firstprince. I don’t really play video games or computer games or watch anime or kdramas, so those fandoms are not really on my radar.

Thanks for the ask!

[littleflowerfaerie]

Ask game to get to know other people better. Tag whoever you want to play. All credit goes to whoever came up with it.

Last song I listened to: Elverhøy by SKÁLD

Currently watching: Pokëmon Horizons

Currently reading: Winterkeep by Kristin Cashore

Current obsession: Lord of the Rings/The Tolkienverse as a whole

Tagging @burinazar @the-obiwan-for-me and @alphafemaleape

[scary-grace]

🕯️💥🌿 for the fic writer asks! (also i hope your writers block eases up soon! <3)

thank you for the ask (and the good wishes! I'm hoping it eases up very soon -- I signed up for trsb again this year, and I need to clear out some prompts/shorter fics before it's time to get started!)

🕯️was there a fic that was really hard on you to write, or took you to a place you didn't think it would take you?

In general, anything that's firmly in the dark or tragic realm is much harder for me to write than other types of fic, and I gave myself a lot of those over the last year. The Last of All Suns is probably the Tolkienverse fic that exemplifies that the most, although I knew it would be like that going in. The one that surprised me was my Day 8 prompt for Barduil month! I wasn't expecting it to go in that direction at all.

💥find your least kudos'd fic - say something wonderful about it.

My least kudos'd fic is In Spirit, which is a gen fic about Thorin and his siblings during the first winter after the fall of Erebor! I feel like I did a good job capturing the mix of pride and terror Thorin feels at being responsible for his siblings (and eventually for his people as a whole)!

🌿how does creating make you feel?

Amazing, when it's going well! Having a good writing hour can turn around an entire bad day, and writing something that I know I'll enjoy rereading is one of the most fun things for me. When it's not going well, like it hasn't been lately, it's demoralizing. But I'm hoping things will turn around soon!

fic writing asks

[silveraura]

Beren and Lúthien is Tolkien making The Fairytale(TM) of his universe.

Lúthien kept in a tower and growing her hair? Rapunzel.

The weaving and sleeping spell? Fully Sleeping Beauty.

Also she literally calls herself princess of fairies.

The cats? Incredibly Alice in Wonderland coded.

The whole wolf & bat transformation feels very witchy/ mythology esque.

Also the whole verse-version of the tale was the most "i want Shakespeare and Homer to be proud" i've ever read.

I mean this can't be an original take, cause even though I expected it to be fairytale coded from the rest of the tolkienverse, I did not expect to have the whole story scream "AND HERE'S ANOTHER FAIRYTALE. AND ANOTHER" at me.

[junk-whunk-punk]

sry for these yaps but grah‼️‼️dudes tes why i fuckin REFUSE to accept SoW in this whole.... uhh Monolith's AU? Monolith's Tolkienverse DLC? whatever ANYWAY ama huge slut for SoM but even huger foe for SoW ONLY cuz at first they built a really interesting character interaction line there (da heck Tal+Brimber duo is hella yummy) and then WAIT PPL WHY TF U RUINED THEIR..... uh. okai. WHAT WAS THAT👹 like OKEYYY I UNDERSTAND WHY but uh still it's really a strong hit right into heart. Brimber could not do that no. he must stay a super bro. talion must stay a strongwilled light puppy. imagine where plot line could go if that break point didn't exist. (tho we'd lose that insane hot dark Talion..... fak. complicated)

anyway tes how it must be:

When even your worst enemy thinks you messed up

[navyinks]

First meeting of Celegorm and Oromë with guest appearance of celery boy’s favourite brother, feanor II

if you can’t read my tiny handwriting there’s a higher res on my artstation

I drew this to test whether my feanorian designs can hold up to being drawn with ease in comics (the answer is yes, if you don’t care for art quality lmaoooo.

also thanks to everyone’s feedback on twitter for canon characterization, headcanons, emotional support for painting this long ass thing, I HOPE Y’ALL LIKE THIS

[words--words--words]

'I wonder if we shall ever be put into songs or tales. We're in one, of course; but I mean: put into words, you know, told by the fireside, or read out of a great big book with red and black letters, years and years afterwards. And people will say: "Let's hear about Frodo and the Ring!" And they'll say: "Yes, that's one of my favourite stories. Frodo was very brave, wasn't he, dad?" "Yes, my boy, the famousest of the hobbits, and that's saying a lot."'

"It's saying a lot too much," said Frodo, and he laughed, a long clear laugh from his heart. Such a sound had not been heard in this places since Sauron came to Middle-earth. To Sam suddenly it seemed as if all the stones were listening and the tall rocks leaning over them. But Frodo did not heed them; he laughed again. 'Why, Sam,' he said, 'to hear you somehow makes me as merry as if the story was already written. But you've left out one of the chief characters: Samwise the stouthearted. "I want to hear more about Sam, dad. Why didn't they put in more of his talk, dad? That's what I like, it makes me laugh. And Frodo wouldn't have got far without Sam, would he, dad?"'

'Now, Mr. Frodo,' said Sam, 'you shouldn't make fun. I was serious.'

'So was I,' said Frodo, 'and so I am.'

J.R.R Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers.

[lesbiankiliel]

ERINA OMG IM JUST SEEING MY NOTIFS AGAIN JUST NOW AND I SAW YOU TEAR THROUGH MY WHOLE DOS COMMENTARY SERIES OF POSTS AND NOW PPL ARE REDISCOVERING IT AGAIN THRU YOU AND I AM YELLINGGGGGGGGG

I'VE LITERALLY BEEN THINKING ABOUT THEM FOR A WHILE NOW AND TONIGHT I DECIDED THAT FUCK IT I'M GONNA DIG THEM UP! THEY'RE SO GOOD!!