#and i fucking hate neil gaiman

[residentskully]

birthday gift i made for my friend!

[g00se-ars0nist]

is it time to post this old ass sketch from may

[dreamytfw]

Can we please not fucking do the bullshit "if you still like [insert media here] after this news, you're a HORRIBLE person who hates victims and wants rapists to thrive" thing?

I'm a victim of several different types of abuse. I use stories to escape my trauma. Do not DARE tell me that something I got emotionally invested in BEFORE learning about the horrific things the creator did means I'm an awful person. You know who says shit like that? Abusive people. You know how I know that? Because that's one of the control tactics my abuser used against me.

Fuck all of you who are using this to play fandom police and feel morally superior to people who are struggling to come to terms with something horrific right now.

[seventeendeer]

this isn't at all meant to be condescending or finger-waggy because 100% we all have blind spots like this, but I'm really, really hoping that the people who never found Gaiman's approach to his own fandom concerning in any way will take this all as a learning moment.

he was an older, hyper-famous author engaging directly and frequently with an online audience of largely vulnerable young marginalized people. he presented himself as cultured and worldly, and made himself approachable as someone to go to for advice, encouragement and "wisdom." his manner of speech was extremely pathos-heavy and clearly intended to be comforting and encouraging in exactly the way his target demographic needed it to be to swallow every word. the way he spoke about stories and creativity was designed to make young creative hopefuls feel special and important, while sweeping real analytical techniques under the rug - in hindsight, likely so no one would think too critically about the disturbing amount of patriarchal abuse played for cheap shock value and voyerism in his own body of works.

Gaiman saw a target demographic that was desperate for an older creative role model to tell them they were worth something, and he exploited that pain to twist a narrative around himself where he was king and any critique leveled at him or his works were the enemy.

to be clear, he could have been innocent. he could totally have been just an out-of-touch old man saying nice things to people because he wanted to be kind and he thought he was a lot smarter than he really was. red flags are warning signs, not a surefire way to tell if someone is actually "secretly shitty."

but if you used to look up to him, PLEASE take this moment to revisit the ideas you absorbed from him. did you take his words to heart because they seemed to have objective merit? or did you take them to heart because it felt good to believe what he said? do you still hold these values? does knowing he was intentionally manipulating his online audience make you less certain? do you need more information from a different source before deciding one way or another?

again, I'm just really, really hoping people on here will take a moment to reevaluate the ideas and opinions he's injected into tumblr fandom culture, because his reach is immense and he has absolutely been manipulating popular perception of relevant topics to gain further influence and control the narrative around both his own and Pratchett's legacy. please, please take this moment to notice what he's been doing - and next time someone tries to pull the same shit, hopefully we'll be able to apply what we've learned from experience.

[briarroses]

k but that article didn't divulge new info you couldn't glean from the original article in july so. maybe fucking listen to women the first time.

[nonightingalesinberkelysquare]

Guys I am David Tennant and I want to confirm that my hair is red xxx

[crowleysgirl56]

The vast majority of people who work on a show are paid upfront for their labour

They don't get paid dependent on how successful a show is

They also don't do work that doesn't get paid- if they are working on a show that gets cancelled, they get paid for the work they did

All this 'stream GO for the hard workers behind the scenes' is bullshit

They work for companies are will be put on different projects

Just be honest that you want more GO (despite the message that it sends to studios- that audiences are ok with abusers! Just turn a blind eye to them! Yes that gives them more power but who cares because people will watch and make them money!)

Don't pretend your doing this for moral reasons

(And acting like you're doing this for Terry- for all we know he might want his work with an abuser completely destroyed- it's stupid to assume he'd want the series to be continued)

Like say this shit with your chest, you know?

Oh boy, ok. Gonna take a minute to answer this.

Firstly, I and a lot of the fandom, are heartbroken over what NG has done. Because we were duped into thinking he was a decent person. From the things that he wrote to the things that he said we thought that he was good person. And it is horrible that there are people out there suffering because yet another rich powerful white man decided he had the right to take advantage of them.

You seem rather angry and if that anger stems because you have experienced something similar yourself then I hope you have love and support around you so that you can heel.

If you want to talk about money, let me remind you that NG has already been paid for season 3. He will continue to get royalties, and thanks to the writers strike last year, he will now get more money for those royalties than before. If S3 doesn’t go ahead then hundreds of people will lose their jobs. Will they get other jobs? Sure, maybe. But any loss of job in this current economic climate is terrible and stressful (and I’m not talking about DT or MS here. They’ll get more work).

I don’t know if you understand how hyper fixation in neurodiversity works, but this is extremely painful for some people and takes a lot of time and energy and therapy to get over when a hyper fixation is threatened or taken away. Some people, like myself, need closure for things otherwise we can find it extremely difficult to move on emotionally. This obviously does not compare to someone trying to survive after SA, but emotional diversity can be extremely debilitating as well. They are apples and oranges to compare, but you can’t invalidate one person’s pain because you think another person’s pain is worth more.

As for the show itself, there is so little queer representation in media. There is a lot more nowadays compared to a decade ago, or even 5 years ago, but the little representation we have is so extremely important. Do you know how many people have found a truth to themselves thanks to GO? How many people discovered something about themselves that finally gives them answer to how they feel? How at the age of 40 I finally realised that I’m asexual and NOT BROKEN. That’s fucking important.

And this. ALL of this is why everyone, including me, are so fucking angry with NG. Because he has left us emotionally devastated. He has not just physically hurt these women. He has emotionally hurt hundreds of thousands of people. He is a stain.

I have spoken before when this all first happened about how I was angry that my one teeny tiny corner of the internet that made me happy was on fire. I left for a bit. I came back. I want to continue to interact with like minded people who love this fandom. I won’t stop that.

And frankly, and here’s the last I’ll say on this, the world is on fire. It is filled with a lot of fucking awful shit right now. I have suffered a very deep depression of late where some nights after I put the kids to bed I just stare and cry. You don’t know that about me because I don’t say those kinds of things on the internet, because our internet personas are facades. They’re not real. They’re not true life. I’m a real person and I’m aching inside about so many things. And these kinds of messages are just breaking me further. Seriously, when you send stuff like this do you even consider that?! So when I decide to hold onto one of the last bastions of entertainment that brings me joy, I’m not going to be guilted into dropping it because someone involved happens to be a monster. Because let me tell you if we did that every time someone turned out to be horrible, then we would never watch or enjoy anything ever again. EVERYTHING you watch or listen to or enjoy or like or cared about is connected to someone who is horrible or produced by a gigantic evil corporation (Nestle, Disney, Microsoft, Facebook, Google just to name a few). Every. Single. Thing. It’s the clothing you wear, the electronics you buy, the food you eat, the furniture in your house, and ALL the entertainment you consume. So if you gave up everything for some moral stance, then you would literally have nothing left.

Dropping Good Omens does nothing. It sends no message to anyone because the next really fucking awful person is about to produce the next big thing you might happen to love and care about. So what’s the point?

Let me have Good Omens. You don’t like that, then you can block me. That’s what the button is there for. You don’t need to send anonymous hateful messages. And if you want me to “say this shit with my chest” maybe you can send me an ask with the Anonymous off. So I can see your chest too.

I’m turning off anonymous asks now. Considering the only asks I’ve ever received is abusive shit telling me to kill myself or saying David Tennant is a paedophile or just telling me I’m a horrible person for supporting NG (when I’ve already stated before that I don’t anymore).

Sorry for those who’ve managed to get to the end here. Thanks for reading if you have, sorry it was so long. I hope you aren’t receiving the same type of messages. If Anonymous has read this far, I don’t know, maybe think twice before being horrible to random people on the internet?

[dogslayslaw]

I don't usually join in discourse. I'm interested in good omens, I even made a bit of fan art. BUT I'm not interested in it enough to get mad over it being turned into a feature-length episode. So what? I wouldn't even care if we DIDNT get anything. Fuck Neil Gaiman solely for what he did to those 5+ women, not for "ruining the show". Please actually step back and think about the people affected.

[imjustasmalltowngirl]

the sexual misconduct allegations against neil gaiman disappoint me down to my core

[seasoneightsamwinchester]

if season 3 ends up being shit (fuck u neil gaiman), there better be at least 5 fix-it fics posted the same day on ao3 or i WILL go insane

my life already got ruined with the last season of tua i can’t go through that trauma again

[catboywizard]

sometimes i forget how sanitized tiktok and other platforms are compared to tumblr until i come across stuff like this video i saw earlier where someone, as well as a bunch of ppl in the comments, were absolutely scandalized that aziraphale got called a faggot by a kid early on in the good omens book

gays on here throw it around like loose change but ppl on tiktok act like finding it in a book written for adults in 1990 is a huge mind blowing shocker

i’m not saying the book should or shouldn’t have used it, but the video was definitely a big culture shock bc of just how differently that word is treated on here

[auntierayeraye]

Amanda Palmer and Neil Gaiman are abusive assholes. They can can fuck off into the sun.

[beanie-twink]

As someone who has experienced domestic violence sexual assault etc FUCK some of you bitchass fans of gaiman’s work. Every single time some abuser gets outed (especially if they happen to be in a creative industry) you guys bend over backwards to try to reclaim the work. Yall did this with harry potter so much, trying to find guilt free ways to enjoy what they put out. You prioritize assuaging your guilt rather than thinking about the victims who deserve recognition and to be supported right now. I understand these works were formative and important to you. But there is a bigger picture. And by your immediate jumping to this, you’re showing other victims of said person AND anyone who is a victim in general that as long as someone puts out good work, their atrocities don’t fucking matter in the end. You say they do, but your words (and actions) show otherwise. Do better.

[anneangel]

Past - I wish I hadn't come across this author's work, but unfortunately I did. There's no way to separate myself from reality, to pretend it didn't happen. While I was trying to process all of this, I talked to several other people who were fans of the work, some for decades, some who have tattoos of some work, some who named their pets or even their children after a character. My point is, it's not like it's possible to forget our own history. Whether we like it or not, this author's work was part of our lives and this is a chapter that we can't erase or pretend didn't happen. There's no way to erase our own past. The truth is that we consumed something by this author at some point in our lives and that was, for a time, significant to us (whether we like that reality now or not).

Present - it's an ambivalence of feelings, at the same time affection for what this work meant, and at the same time hatred for what it means now. It's both, affection, for the good vibes and people I met through the work, and hatred for knowing that, while I was happy, other people were hurt by the author without us knowing. Every time I look at something related to the work, at the same time I feel attached to what that universe, characters and fandom meant to me, and at the same time I remember the article released this week about the victims and it seems like the work is radioactive. I can't forget the work, but I also can't consume it. I can't stop liking the characters, and at the same time I can't like them anymore like I used to. And that doesn't make sense. And it's driving me crazy. I don't know what to do with this ambivalence of feelings now.

Future - there is no chance of me acquiring other works by this author, any and all works that I haven't had contact with but wanted to know have definitely left my shopping lists (I will never get to know Coraline, Stardust or Sandman). I'm discouraging anyone from acquiring them. If you buy something, you are giving money to the author. And even if you consume it from a used or pirated item, you run the risk of getting attached to the work (the universe and characters), and I think that the feeling of "love the work, hate the author" is not worth it (it's not worth it for me), the more you can not buy anything and not get sentimentally attached to any work that belongs to him, better for you, better for everyone. Try as much as possible not to get involved with the works, if you never know it, you will never have to let this infiltrate your heart.

Now - I fear that the victims will never see justice. I fear that he will continue to be published worldwide. I fear that I will never be able to resignify and overcome the affection I have for the only work of his that I have consumed (Good Omens). And all of this makes me bitter. It's like being a hostage to my own feelings. I don't wish this on anyone. So, the only advice I have to give is: if you don't know any of this author's works, continue not knowing it!

[aziracrow-adventures]

I’m so sorry guys but I don’t know if I can continue this blog after hearing about what NG had done in more detail.

I thought that I could salvage it see it as Terry pratchetts story instead but the NG stuff has made me feel so sick.

I think I’ll be stepping back from posting for the foreseeable future.

I hope the victims get the help, support and safety they deserve and need. I’m sorry that fuckbag did those things to you. He deserves every ounce of hate he gets from now on.

[sorryididntdothedishes]

neil gaiman. i fucking hate you. i can’t believe you. i didn’t know about the zionist shit or the funding cp before this, but now i can’t stop finding worse and worse things. i hope that you lose your career. you were my role model. one of my favorite people. i can’t do this rn