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emmaspolaroid · 7 months ago
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i know you think i’m someone you can trust
(new SxF print for conventions! close-up under the cut <3 | ko-fi)
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hobisstar · 1 year ago
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What are you hiding from love?| Yandere!Jk x Reader
Summary: Being in a relationship with Jungkook you’ve always noticed the signs, the red flags if you will. Being so in love with him you ignored them, until the people you loved dearly started disappearing one by one.
Warnings: Murder, Jungkook victim blaming ( like he will say i killed you because you are too stupid or whatever), Possessiveness, Mentions of Smut, Controlling, Locking up YN.
Taglist: vante 🫶🏾
A/N: This is made to be scary! That is all. I honestly dont like mixing smut with yandere because i read yandere fics to be spooked not horny lol.
5 years,
5 long years, of nothing but love and trust but more than that. Of course honesty, right?
Well on yn’s end there was definitely honesty. Jungkook’s? Not so much. You see there is this dark secret that jungkook has been hiding since they met 6 years ago…
It’s so deadly that it could possibly end their relationship if she found out about it.
She was so beautiful, so calm and gentle with him, he loved that side of her. Hes never seen her angry, sad, or even hurt. He never wants to see that side of her.
Jungkook doesn’t want to be the reason he sees that side of her.
Like now, There are siting on their shared bed, in their shared bedroom, in their shared apartment. Telling the truth, would risk him loosing all of this. He cant have that.
Jungkook looked at her then smiled, “ You are so beautiful you know?” He smiled, kissing the top of her head. YN blushed lightly staring up at him.
YN was quite literally everyone’s dream girl. Maybe that was the problem to Jungkook.
She was too good to everyone including himself and he hated. He knows she has a bad side but he never gets to see it so when he knows someone else gets to experience that mean side of her, he’s instantly jealous.
Who got his baby so pissed that she called you a dumb cunt? A fucking bitch? Who dares piss off his queen?
He will deal with them, with torture. Slow, painful, evil, demented, twisted death.
That was the other side of him he need to never be shown to his lover. It scared him that in any means possible she found out about his… hobby.
Nevertheless, Jungkook admires yn. How she can keep it together in every situation. Worships her to be exact.
“Stop calling be beautiful and get ready for work, handsome.” Yn responded while patting his back.
Right, work. Besides his hobby, he works at a flower shop while yn works at a cafe during the weekend. It’s enough to keep food on their table, to the rent, gas but also enough for simply living. Jungkook owns the flower shop so, he makes a whole lot of money.
There are so many things that yn doesn’t know about Jungkooks basically second life. How deadly it is.
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jk: I miss you, baby~
I hate this fucking job
What are you doing?
Is bam stilling your attention from my text?
Babbbbbbbbyyyyy
yn
yn
yn
yn answer the phone
yn: sorry baby! I was feeding bam and fixing me something to eat!
I left my phone in the bathroom
yn: j, you just got to work babes 🤨, how do you miss me already?
You didn’t even clock in yet SILLY!
jk: I can’t miss you now?
Since when did you feel like that?
yn: Jeon I never once said you couldn’t, don’t say that.
jk: but you where implying that…
yn: Jeon Jungkook, clock in, put your phone down, see you when you get home 😕🩷
jk: smh, why that face? Why that reply?
He waited for a reply but he never received one, instead he heard someone clear his throat. He looked up and saw it was a woman probably in her 30s, staring at him like he was a snack.
“Hi! JK right? I came in here a few days ago looking for some flowers for my sisters birthday! I doubt you remember me but I want to come back to get some for myself!” The lady bit her lip and looked Jungkook up then down and Jungkook thought he could be sick.
He forced a half smile, “ Yeah yeah, I don’t remember you. You can get them for yourself, I don’t remember the flower you got last time.” He looked back down at the book he was original decorating with different flower pictures but got bored so he texted his lover.
“oh.. I was hoping you could pick them for me, fresh ones. I know you all do that-,” “ we do but not this early.” He interrupted still looking down, knowing he is hurting the poor woman’s feelings for not even recognizing her or remembering the flower or even falling for her shitty attempt to flirt.
“Okay, ah well I’ll go grab them and pay for them.” She said waiting for a respond or even a nod but she didn’t even get that. She walked over there and grabbed them then returning to the register. While she put her things on the counter, she saw a glimpse of Jungkooks Lock Screen which so happens to be a picture of yn and bam sleeping on the couch. “ Your sister?” She asked, hoping she was right. “ My wife actually and our son.” He scanned the flowers and roughly wrapped them. Roses, it’s be sad if he left a thorn on them. He turned around and slightly cut the stem but enough to keep the thorn nice and sharp.
Jungkook turned back around and handed them to her. As soon as the woman grabbed them she gasped, in pain he assumed. He pretended to be concerned but when he saw the palm of her hand leaking red liquid, he smiled on inside.
“ Oh! Im so sorry! I thought I got all the thorns, out…” he looked up at her then saying “ I guess one snuck away.” giving her the most creepiest blank face the woman has ever seen. She then realized he left the thorn on on purpose. He even sharpened it. “ I can fix that for you-,” “ No! I-It’s fine! Thank you so much! See you!” She some what screamed and hurried out the store frightened.
“ too bad..” Jungkook mumbled and chuckled continuing to put pictures in the decorating book.
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“Bam! You just keep growing!” Yn said as she walked into the kitchen smiling while seeing him staring at the spare room. It’s Jungkooks office. “ What’s the matter? You know your dad doesn’t like you going in there.Not even me.” She stooped to his level and petted his back but only received a whimper in return.
Yn stared at the door. It’s taunting her with its unlocked door handle. She looked at the time, it was only 5 pm, Jungkook wouldn’t be home for a few more hours.
“ A peak wouldn’t hurt us right?” Looking at Bam and he barked as if he understood her.
Yn stood up and opened the door walking in. It was a nice little tidy office.
It would be comforting even if it wasn’t so cold. She has to remember to turn on the air for this room once exiting.
She turned around seeing if Bam followed her inside but he was at his bowl slurping up some water.
Looking at the closet door she opened it up and turned on the light. “since when did he make this a dark room?” The red light was a little hard to see in but her eyes soon adjusted quickly.
Spooky wasn’t the feeling that she was feeling but more so unsettled. Yn looked at the photos on the table and quite literally almost vomited.
“ what… what is that?” Stammering as her eyes scanned over the photos laid out on the table.
Pictures of people being hurt, harmed. There were far more worse ones that she doesn’t even want to even mention. Gazing up on the line looking at the ones drying where pictures of, her.
This wouldn’t be weird if it wasn’t of her sleeping, in the shower, getting dressed, even at work.
“Did jungkook take these?… no way…”
Yn was flabbergasted,
Was her boyfriend of 5 years, a serial killer? A psychopath? A fucking weirdo? I mean she saw the signs but thought she was tripping.
Days where he would come home with blood and dirt on his hands and clothes. He would always say it was his and it came from the thorns he dealt with at work.
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“yn! I’m home!” Jungkook shouted. As he walked in and smiled when he saw Bam sitting on the couch peacefully sleeping.
It’s where yn and bam usually cuddle so, where is she at?
“Did she leave you by yourself?” He asked Bam who was waking up from sleep. Walking towards the kitchen he saw dinner was made and a note on the fridge door.
“ Welcome home babes! Sorry I couldn’t be home to greet you, I went out to go get a few things but my sister called and said she wanted to have a little sibling time! Ha. Be back by 11 pm! Dinners fixed but do warm it up, then shower and get some sleep! See you later,
Love, Yn <3”
“Ah, I guess she did leave us by ourselves tonight Bam.” He chuckled and took off his jacket. He felt weird though.
Since when did her sister want to hang out so late? This is the first he ever heard of it. Pondering, he grabbed his phone and called yn’s sister.
“Hello? Jungkook?” She answered confused as ever at this late ass call. “Hey, sorry to call so late. is yn with you?” Jungkook asked but his full attention was on his office door.
“What? No she’s not. Why?” Without missing a beat Jungkook hung up the phone right after. He dialed yn’s number. What he wasn’t expecting was to hear her phone sitting right on the couch next to Bam. He watched it ring and sighed. Maybe she just went out and forgot it on accident, no need to panic.
For some reason in the back of his mind he felt as though she found out. She went into his forbidden office. Jungkook chuckled, “ she would never disobey me.” He warmed his food up then sat at the table but he couldn’t eat.
Nor could the feeling of her going in his office go away. He stood up and walked to the door and opened it.
At first he didn’t notice anything out of place until he realized it was warm in the room. He never turns the air on in this room. Jungkook looked around about to leave until something so obvious caught his eyes.
The red light illuminating on the other side of the closet door. With quick steps, he opened the door well threw it open. Nothing was touched but the light alone was a clear sign that someone was in there.
He mentally and physically cursed himself.
“ She knows, she fucking knows.” He calmly stated but boy was he heated.
“ I need to fucking find her…now.”
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To be continued…
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petit-papillion · 5 months ago
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It's crazy how misinformation keeps being spread. I saw a person on twitter who had a lot of followers and a podcast about f1 saying ferrari asked what tires carlos thought it was better and carlos answered "soft". And then they gave the soft to charles and hard to carlos.
When someone posted the transcription of the radio (from twitter user team55) that shows carlos answered "hards or softs" they said the transcription was wrong.
When someone mentioned ferrari wanted to give charles hards but charles refused, they said its not true and the only reason they gave charles soft was because carlos said it was the better tire.
I went back to listen the radios and the person is simply lying.
Ferrari asked carlos what he prefer between mediums, soft or hards and he said "hards or soft"
Ferrari told charles they were thinking about putting hards and he said "no that's stupid".
So whats the point to make up things like this ? Just so people can keep the narrative that carlos is the strategy master and ferrari favors charles ?
And it's one thing if it was just a random account but it's someone with a plataform. there's a lot of fans that don't have access to f1tv there are just believing what this person said.
Hi Anon! I feel like the F1 broadcasts have hugely contributed to this perception of Carlos being a strategic mastermind by being very selective about what they broadcast from team radio. Drive to Survive gets picked on for painting false narratives, but the main broadcast is, at times, just as bad. They pick and choose team radio, sometimes don't broadcast everything that was said or omit follow-up radio that puts the original one in a different light, or don't transcribe it correctly ("There was a cut." when Charles said "There was a cat." comes to mind). I do like that they put "I'm OK." on screen when a driver has crashed and they know from team radio the driver is okay. And I also understand it takes a little while to transcribe team radio. But to my recollection they have never actually said it's just a standard message they use, and instead they make it seem like they are quoting the driver, who in fact may have said, "I'm in the fucking wall." or "Red flag! Red flag! I'm in the middle of the track!!!"
Anyway, on to your point: why make things up? For the same reason drivers lie (and yes, they all do at one point or another) when they are on team radio or talking to the media. To make themselves look good/innocent. And some go to far more extremes than others. Fans are no different: we are biased towards our fave and have a really hard time accepting when he does something we don't like or agree with, as our meow meow just can do no wrong. Some people come up with excuses, others with just blatant lies. See recently Lestappen fans when Max chose Lando, Daniel and Checo as his top 3 friends on the grid, and they said he had to pick Checo because he's his teammate, otherwise he would've said Charles. Could be true, but that would still only put Charles as his 3rd best friend. Wouldn't Max have put Charles as his undisputed number 1 if they are really that close?
Sorry, I digress. The point is, we all need to use critical thinking to the best of our ability, check facts when we can, and try not to stay in a vacuum of like-minded people, but it's unavoidable to have false narratives slip in when it is being fed to us every race weekend. Commentators are biased and although we expect them to be objective, they often are not. I stopped listening to Sky, but it is incredibly clear Crofty's favourite driver is Norris, Chandhok is a Carlos-fan, etc. And you are right, not everyone has access to F1TV to check the onboards, but in this case, they do have access to Twitter and can look at more than just the tweets telling them lies.
In case anyone needs proof of what Charles said:
🎥 bliss_n16
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cherryxblossxms · 2 years ago
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Masturbation May - Day 2b: With Toys (Toji Fushiguro)
A/N: Toji was suggested by the darling @vampnyx and I decided to go just a little nuts with it. Sometimes you gotta write Toji a little nasty, as a treat. Posted a little late, shhhh
Featuring: GN afab reader || Toji x reader
Warnings: masturbation; roommate!Toji, reader and Toji aren't together; hate sex???/hate masturbation?????; no pronouns for reader, but reader has tits and a vagina; sexual fantasies of reader, Toji is kind of a creep; use of sex toys: fleshlight; Toji steals your underwear; creampie
Word count: 1712
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Toji couldn't stand you. He did a fairly decent job at hiding it, still helping you out around the apartment here and there even without your prompting, fixing up your car when the tire went flat or repairing the fridge when it started leaking. But sometimes you just managed to get on his nerves just right and drive him up a wall.
He hated your trusting demeanor. Despite how open he was of what he thought of as his "true nature", you still seemed to give him the benefit of the doubt, ignoring every red flag thrown your way. He hated the way you'd look up at him with clear eyes and strong resolve, how you seemed to look past all his layers and see his hidden self. And even more, he hated how these made him attracted to you.
It also didn't help that you'd occasionally bring some boring, vanilla dope home, sometimes as a new partner or just some casual fun. It was almost painful to him how boring they were, and he couldn't imagine they were actually any good in the bedroom. He was right there, after all, was he no good? You thought you were too good for him?
Instead of going out and finding these basic, one-pump chumps, you could have him instead. He knows they're not doing the job to satisfy you, evident by the awkward way you would send them off and he never saw them again, or at least not for long. No one would be able to make you scream like he could, and no one's dick would ever compare.
And at first, you'd made an effort to introduce these trysts to Toji, maybe as some weak semblance of telling Toji to back off. But as time went on, you eventually stopped trying, quietly bringing them in instead when Toji was out or simply not acknowledging him, and doing your best to sneak them back out at the end. But he knew, he always knew.
Another way he could tell that these trysts weren't doing anything for you was, late at night when you thought he was asleep or maybe hoped he couldn't hear, he'd hear the telltale buzz of a very special toy. He almost felt bad. Almost. You deserved someone that would rock your world, show you how your lovers were supposed to fuck you.
It wasn't actually intentional on his end, but over time, Toji found his thoughts drifting to you when he sated his appetite, whether that was with himself or he found someone at the bar to bring home. When he heard them moan his name, he couldn't help but wonder what it would sound like in your voice instead. When he came, he wanted to know what it'd look like sprayed across your tits, smeared on your delectable lips, or maybe even dripping out of your holes.
It even got to the point he'd imagine your face when he was fucking someone, wishing it was your sweet pussy he was pounding instead. He knew he needed to do something about this, but he'd be damned if he admitted something stupid like he'd caught feelings for you. So he did the next best thing and took your underwear.
If you knew the things Toji thought about you, maybe you wouldn't want to be roommates anymore. Sometimes you had a sneaking suspicion about the darkness and the lewdness of his thoughts, given the dirty jokes he'd make and how he had no qualms about openly checking you out on a regular basis. But even if you did, you couldn't afford rent in the area by yourself, and you couldn't even bare to think of the process of searching for a new roommate.
Something else seemed to tip you off as well, and it related to finding your... unmentionables in the wrong places, just differently placed enough to know that that wasn't how you'd left it, or sometimes they were just plain gone. But even as the suspicions grew, you just couldn't bring yourself to confront your roommate, always worried about falsely accusing him and honestly, you weren't sure what you'd do if he ever admitted his guilt.
Today, something you'd done (Toji's excuse) had managed to rile him up just right, feeling like a beast in rut, and he sought out your laundry hamper as soon as he knew the coast was clear. It took a little digging, but he managed to find a couple pairs of lacy underwear hidden inside. He quickly stuffed them in his pocket and made his way to his room.
He could feel his blood flowing to his cock even without a touch, throbbing with need to be buried inside your sweet cunt. Since he couldn't do that, his next favorite activity these days was jacking off with your underwear, soaking it in his cum before returning it to your hamper, and that was his same mission today.
He wasted no time in pulling out a fleshlight and bottle of lube from his drawer, something new he'd invested in since meeting you. He had no issue with finding plenty of decent lays at the bars. But ever since discovering his little personal problem, even that didn't seem to be enough anymore. Toys weren't exactly his kind of thing, but it took the edge off for now, and it would have to do until he finally made his move.
Toji didn't bother getting undressed before lying on his bed, just feeling it was a waste of time. When he tugged his sweatpants down, he was already fully hard, cock springing out eagerly, and the cool air was a relief as it hit his skin. He poured some lube into his hand and immediately started palming himself, spreading it evenly, even reaching down to tug his balls a little for more stimulation. He followed with pouring more lube into the toy, next, making use of his middle and ring fingers to get the lube deep inside.
The sight of his fingers disappearing inside the pocket pussy only fueled the monster inside him. He caught his thoughts drifting once more, picturing it was you that he was burying his fingers in, pumping in and out to prep you for his cock. Even better, he wanted to bury his face in there, get squeezed by your thighs as he toyed with your pretty little pussy and overstimulated you as much as he wanted.
Once he felt the lube was spread enough, he worked the opening over his tip, getting situated just right before easing it down his shaft. He always hated this part, feeling how cold it was, knowing that if it was you instead, your body would be so hot and comforting, rather than the cold unfeeling silicone. But as he started pumping the toy over himself, it started to warm up, and pleasure finally began to grow in his body.
The room air began to fill with the sounds of quiet grunts and wet, lewd slapping as his pace increased. He alternated between just working the upper, more sensitive part of his cock, and then slamming the toy down to his base. While his one hand worked the toy, he used the other to work his balls, heavy with seed. The pleasure that had started in his toes slowly crept up his body, filling his abdomen with heat now, and he felt like he was losing his mind.
He hated you, he hated your perfect body, and how perfect your pussy probably was. If there was anyone you should have been fucking, it should have been him. No one would ever make you feel as good as he could, no one would ever breed you as well as he could. He'd wait until you finally realize what you're missing, but it was damned annoying in the meantime.
As he felt his climax finally start to approach, Toji stopped for a moment to change positions. He knelt on the bed, pulling over a couple pillows and your underwear. This time, he wrapped one of the pairs of underwear around the fleshlight, admiring the lace and picturing how it would accent your body, and straddled the pillow.
Once he was in position, he started to rut into the toy, one hand on the pillow to stabilize it and the other hand gripping the underwear-covered toy. In this position now, he could better picture it was you that he was pounding beneath him, reshaping your hole to fit his dick and reaching depths you probably didn't even know of.
His grunts became louder as his pleasure rose again, the squelching of the toy and bouncing of the bed springs combining together to create an obscene symphony. Finally, as Toji's orgasm reached the edge, an image of you leaking his cum came unbidden in his mind, and it pushed him past the point of no return. He unleashed a deep, low moan for the final note of the symphony as he slammed forward into the toy, bottoming out and cumming deep inside the toy.
He could feel his balls clenching still, cock throbbing as it let out the last of its release, his whole body thrumming with his heartbeat. Toji sat for a moment, still straddling the pillow and effectively cockwarming his toy, just catching his breath, before sliding out. Instantly, his cum started trickling out and dribbled onto your underwear, still wrapped around the toy.
He loved the sight of your cum-soaked underwear, and it was always his favorite part of taking it from you. It felt like a step closer to claiming you, a step closer to marking you as his completely, and that thought was responsible for making him hard again well before he'd expected. It would be better if his cum was on your skin instead, but he had to think in baby steps.
He couldn't believe how much you'd affected him to make him so desperate, and wasn't even sure of the last time he'd ever felt this way, if at all. But it just proved to Toji you were someone different, someone he needed. He wasn't quite sure how, yet, but he was going to make it his new mission to make you his.
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a-forbidden-detective · 29 days ago
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Toto needs to visit Therapist.
To answer the question, yes, I think Toto has an extremely unhealthy tendency to sacrifice himself. I guess it stems from his low self-esteem. When I look at Toto's many actions in terms of saving people, to me it seems like more than just a desire to solve cases.
Because the desire to solve cases was there even before Ron. And for some reason, most of Toto's actions on his subconscious level are connected with self-harm in some way. Like, his instant reaction, regardless of his instincts for self-preservation, must come from somewhere, and the very fact that at the sight of danger, his feelings aimed at saving himself fade away in the name of others, it's kinda bad.
His actions, to one degree or another, despite saving others and good intentions, are equally aimed to self- distraction.
Toto never care about himself ( I'm talking about his thoughts about himself) This is probably most clearly seen during the cruise arc. When he was tied up, put to sleep and the first thing when he wakes up in his head was about Ron. But Not about even one thought about himself.
To me, this is a giant red flag that something is wrong. Considering Toto's habit of overworking himself to be useful as shown in the early chapters where he literally sleeps in his office. Moreover, his lack of any social life, and active workaholism, to help others BUT not himself. This screams that he has an unhealthy way of thinking where he puts himself last, above everyone else. He is ready to buy his grandmother something expensive, but as can be seen in the 1st case about the hot springs, he mainly relies on his salary. And this could be attributed to his kindness and good qualities, but it simply screams of a broken psyche. There is no healthy egoism in him. And well this is bad.
Also recalling our discussion about his upbringing, Toto was taught not to show much emotion in public.
However, in my opinion, sometimes all this stupidity seems very much like a fake, and his true personality is what we saw in his neutral frames. Well, I don’t believe that it’s not fake when one second he just looks blankly at the mention of Kei, and the next he’s already laughing.
And the fact that he and Ron don’t have the healthiest relationship (This is strictly how I see them and I'm not saying that they are bad) is a topic for a separate post.
Also lmao now i have my own tag there! 🤣 It feels like we're on a show or at an interview. 🤭
Ah, that’s an interesting take.
I mean Toto doesn’t have a lot of friends. And he’s probably damaged too for all we know. With the emergence of Ron he has something to live for. And it might be that he is fighting with and for Ron to hell with his own life, yeah, might not sound healthy, and it could destroy him once Ron decides to leave him, but I don’t think AA is so heartless to put Toto in this situation. Apart from each other they have accumulated other friends too along the way. So maybe, just maybe it would not come to this.
Heh! Created a hashtag for you. 😊
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tgmsunmontue · 7 months ago
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Caring, Keeping and Collecting Transformers - A Guide 2/?
Maverick is unknowingly surrounded by Transformers. He knows something is up though. Just not quite what it is exactly.
Bradley and Jake, having never met, are embarking on their own journeys and will have to learn to deal with the fact that they've both been adopted by Transformers.
Despite having years more experience, Maverick is no help at all.
CHAPTER ONE
CHAPTER TWO
                Bradley knows his car isn’t normal.
                The fact that he has never once had to buy gas is the biggest red flag if he ever saw one, except it’s not really red, because his car never stops working. Only works for him in fact, which he had thought was a joke that Maverick had started jokingly when he was younger. Except his car refuses to start for anyone else. No one can borrow it. He’s tried all of one time, handing the keys to one of his college friends when they’d asked if they could borrow his truck to move. He hadn’t thought twice about saying yes. And then they’d come back over an hour later saying it just wouldn’t start.
                So now everyone thinks his car is either cursed or possessed, in a joking way, the same way Maverick had, except Maverick had sometimes eyed it like he believed something else. And as much as he hates Maverick, he also doesn’t think he’d have let Bradley get into something that could potentially hurt him. Had seemed glad that it had started for Bradley, and Bradley alone. He hadn’t thought the car was maybe sentient or something until he’d lost the keys and thought he’d��� beg.
                “Will you start for me buddy? I can’t find my keys and I really need to get across town to my classes…”
                He knows that later he’s going to think he imagined the wave of shuddering his car gave, like it was shrugging its shoulders or something. Except of course his car doesn’t have fucking shoulders, but it still starts and the radio flares to life and he doesn’t recognize the song playing at all, but he listens anyway… It's things I do for you, In return do the same for me. Okay. He doesn’t know what the hell that means, unless he’s meant to take the things I do for you literally.
                “I’ll give you a really good wash and polish okay? Oil wherever you want…” Bradley says, and he feels a little stupid, talking to his car, rubbing a hand along the dash, but his car just started because he asked it to so he’s past the point of thinking himself crazy. God he wishes he could talk to Maverick about this.
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                When Jake’s accepted into USNA his family are all proud of him, then he gets into flight school, his dream of becoming an aviator one step closer. He has his degree in mechanical engineering and he knows better now. Knows more now, about how things are meant to fit together. How things work. This plane he’s been working on, playing with, since he was a kid doesn’t fit any of the stuff he’s learnt and he wonders if he simply fucked it up that badly as a teenager trying to do it up.
                He goes on a bit of a fact-finding mission. Talks to his uncle, finds out the original body came from a fair distance away, up past the Arctic circle in Canada. The fact his uncle had it transported all the way down to Texas is impressive, but his uncle is a truck driver and has travelled the breadth of the continent. He runs his hands over the body skeleton, knows he’s imagining the humming vibration beneath his fingers even if he wishes it were true. He’s been gone for years, away at USNA, and then flight school. While he’s been gone more bits of scrap have accumulated beside it, and no one knows when or how it got there. He hasn’t had time to dedicate to trying to fix her up properly, but looking around it’s almost like all the pieces are there.
                Hell, it’ll give him something to do while he has time to kill between deployments, his parents won’t mind storing it in an old barn if it means he comes home. It’s not like he has anything better to do.
                “You realize it’s never going to become airborne…” his father says, coming to stand beside him as he stares at it all, somehow just as big as it had seemed when he was a kid.
                “I don’t care. It’s good practice for me, and I enjoy it. No harm right?”
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                The first time the Bronco reappears at the hangar Pete nearly has a heart attack. He definitely has a panic attack and has to breathe through it before grabbing the phone and ringing Ice.
                “Bradley. Is Bradley okay?”
                “Mav? What’s wrong?”
                “Just… I know I told you not to tell me. But can you just tell me he’s alive?”
                “Yes. I know he is. He left on his first deployment yesterday. Five months.”
                He breathes easier, thanks Ice for sharing that information with him and then turns to just look at the Bronco. It’s a bit dusty but it looks well maintained. Shiny and well cared for. A little before five months later when he wakes up the Bronco is gone and Pete finds himself more than okay knowing where the car’s true loyalties are.
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                Bradley doesn’t believe in magic.
                Magic doesn’t exist.
                Any yet sometimes he wonders.
                Because he doesn’t know how to explain it.
                He’d left his car in Virginia Beach, fairly certain that it was going to be there when he got back. It’s not like anyone else can even drive it, let alone steal it. Although a part of him wonders what would happen if someone tried to steal the tires. And if he could film it.
                Getting off the carrier in San Diego he’s heading toward the transport to take him to base. He’s organized a flight back to Virginia Beach, and he’ll take his leave on the East Coast. Except the sound of a car horn has him looking and this, this is why he thinks his life is somehow got a touch of the eldritch or something. The Bronco is sitting and waiting. Waiting for him specifically, windows down, because no one else can drive it.
                But it can apparently drive itself and it came to pick him up.
                It’s a hell of a homecoming and he kisses his fingers and then taps the fingers to the dashboard as he gets in.
                “Good to see you buddy. Missed you.”
                He hopes no-one sees him talking to thin-air, but he’s also pretty sure his car can not only hear him but understands him. It occurs to him that he now has to cancel his flight transfer back, and he still somehow has to get to himself and his car to Virginia Beach, because he doesn’t want to be hanging around San Diego and bumping into anyone.
…            …            …
                “Thanks for the new bike…”
                “I don’t know what you’re talking about.”
                “Love you too.”
                Tom frowns. Are people just dumping their old junkers at the hangar now?
                Well. At least it’s keeping Pete busy.
…            …            …
                “I don’t want you driving that late at night when you’re that tired. We aren’t in our twenties any more Pete…”
                “So you bought me a trailer? So I can sleep at the hangar?”
                “Well, not just sleep…”
                “Ooohhh… yeah okay. Let’s go give it a test drive huh?”
                “Sounds good.”
…            …            …
                Jake is tired. That has to be why he’s seeing a giant walking plane staring down at his plane, his do-it-upper that he’s had for over fifteen years now. He thinks and dreams about planes and flying so much he’s now seeing them when he’s awake. He should probably go back to bed. Then the thing is turning, bearing down on him and snarling.
                “You. Human. Did you do this?”
                “Holy shit…” Jake says.
                “Answer me!”
                “Did what exactly? Build it? Yeah. That was me. I’m trying to fix him up. Who are you? What are you?”
                The machine’s eyes flick over him, clearly assessing or looking for something and Jake stands where he is, scared shitless but refusing to show it.
                “Who I am does not matter, but my name is Starscream. This is… my friend. Jetfire. What happened to him?”
                “Uh. I don’t know. I’ve been collecting pieces and rebuilding it… is… Is Jetfire like you?”
                “Jetfire is better than I. I failed him. He will need his wings and some power.”
                Jake looks between the pile of pieces which form a very rough body of a plane fuselage and then at the towering body of… Starscream.
                “Wait, are you saying he can be bought back to life?”
                “Of course. We will finish rebuilding him.”
                “Holy shit,” Jake says again. “You’re serious. What are we going to need?”
                Starscream looks at him, and he doesn’t look happy.
                “We…” he looks even more disgusted at the word. “Are going to need help.”
                And yeah, okay. Jake can appreciate where he’s coming from.
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not-so-lost-after-all · 6 months ago
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I saw some of your posts about how the game implemented the poly thing in regards to Astarion and I have to agree with you, the lack of dialogue in which Tav can tell him that he's enough, that they don't need another person in their relationship is glaring! I suppose they didn't include it because they didn't want to offend the fans who are for the arrangement, in case Astarion would've reacted too happily at the player telling him he's enough (realistically he would be VERY happy)? Either way, it's stupid. The whole thing is very badly done and I think the fandom should stop pretending Larian wrote this well and act like it's good poly representation. They didn't and it isn't. Yeah, some people will be offended if you tell them the truth, but this doesn't mean the rest of us should sweep the bad writing under the rug so we don't hurt some feelings. Clearly Larian intended to portray a healthy polyamory relationship in which all parties enthusiastically consented but I think in their desire to do so, they overwrote it inadvertently portrayed the type in which a partner agrees to this type of arrangement not for their own sake, but for their partner's. Oh and I love how these people guilt trip other fans, saying they're infantilizing Astarion for questioning how genuine he was about it or for not liking how the devs implemented poly, or accusations of hating real poly people, poly erasure and so on. If Larian wrote this well, most of the discourse surrounding this issue wouldn't exist.
Fans of this choice will chide you for having doubts and tell "it's normal for him to have insecurities, you just have to reassure him and it's all fine" and will also point to the dev notes saying Astarion is genuine about it except…you can even CONFIRM that his insecurities are true, that you have a problem with him NOT fucking you and he's still fine with it. What the fuck, Larian? Maybe I'm getting something wrong, but him accepting this kind of disrespect from his partner who outright tells him they care more about sex than him as a person is either a red flag which confirms he still has problems setting up his boundaries or again…bad writing. Not sure which is worse. Personally, I tend to believe it's both and after the new Mizora datamined lines in which the player CAN still manipulate him into forgiving the cheating I have to say it's quite clear that he can still be taken advantage of. Sorry, but a person who can healthily establish a boundary won't forgive his partner cheating on him, let's not pretend otherwise. It's GREAT that he's still confronting the player about what they had done, but it's not a good sign that he can forgive a cheater. Oh and let's not forget how before the datamined dialogue for the Mizora cheating many people used the fact that Astarion was seemingly okay with it and didn't have any disparaging reaction as proof of him being open minded about allowing the player to have casual sex with anyone…
Also, why the confidence about believing that Halsin will keep it at sex only when it's clear it's also about feelings for him. Yeah, he has prior experience with this, but is it really enough? It creates the impression that Tav is either lying to Astarion that their relationship with the druid will only be about sex or that Tav is lying to Halsin, therefore using him for sex only when clearly it's more than that for him since feelings are also involved on his part. Again, Larian didn't really think this through. Oh and it gets worse when nothing in the game suggests that Astarion even likes Halsin, if anything he talks about finding him annoying…
It's fucked up that that the Halsin conversation ends up with him agreeing with it no matter what you're going to say. People will probably say "well, Astarion is polyamorous, that's why he simply agrees with it"… well, for someone who's supposedly been written as poly from the beginning, he never brings it up on his own! It's always the player the one who does it. Since communication is so important, we should've had the option to discuss such matters at some point. What type of relationship he prefers to have with the player? Is it fine if the player only wants him? Maybe he would've told us he doesn't want to be in a monogamous relationship and that at some point he will seek out other partners on his own. Or I guess only Tav is allowed to have others on the side?
Now post-Cazador the whole thing feels less bad, but not by much. His impersonation of Halsin, the exaggerated laugh, the 'it's okay if things between us change' lines…sorry, it just puts you off. Not to mention it just doesn't fit into his romance arc, especially when he remains a spawn. He's in his first real relationship with a person he just confessed his love for and very importantly, he's just began to learn that sex can also be about having a loving, intimate connection with his loved one, and more than what he was forced to do, more than scratching an itch and you just prove the opposite by doing whatever you can to have sex with others. It's just bad. (and to ask bluntly, why do people act as if Tav will die if they go on without having sex for a while? oh the horrors!! Not everything has to be about sex all the time)
To argue that well, actually going poly is GREAT for Astarion and that he must be likely relieved about Tav having someone else to have sex with because it takes the pressure from him in the relationship to perform and now he has time to figure himself out…yeah, just stop. This is just coping and headcanon lol. He doesn't need his lover to fuck other people in order for him to figure what he likes, get real. Now I could be persuaded into thinking that in the future when he will have had more actual experience about what being in an actual relationship entails, he could be truly open to trying poly, but right now, to open the first and ONLY real relationship (that's a few months old!!) he has to poly seems a bit cruel from Tav's part. Had HE been the one initiating this, maybe it would've felt different. The only one getting anything positive out of this is Tav. I think it's silly to pretend otherwise. The same goes for the orgy as well (yes, he does consent to both, I'm not saying otherwise), it's bothering me a lot how a lot of people in the fandom think you NEED to take him to the brothel and have an orgy for him because, apparently, they say it's essential to his healing journey. I had someone tell me I'm a bad partner for not doing this with him, that I'm intantilizing and taking away his agency and freedom to choose…so, yeah. This is the BG3 fandom for you.
Regardless, people should of course feel free to do anything they like in the game without being judged or called a bad person, but those of us who feel uncomfortable about certain things shouldn't be dismissed as mere haters or bigots. Our criticism is still valid. It's funny how you can criticize the writers for pretty much everything you want except the horny parts of the game…now that's when people get really angry and come for your head.
Now this ask got so incredibly long, sorry about it! I'll just end this by saying I like your blog and agree with your takes about Astarion (oh and yes checking Astarion's tag on tumblr is a challenge in itself, sone of the stuff you can find there...ugh). It's just nice finding fans out there who aren't insane about him in a bad way and who don't praise every writing decision the devs made just for the sake of it.
Nonnie, yeah, it was long but it was apparently important for you to vent 🙂 I'm sorry if the sex positive crowd left a bad taste in your mind. I honestly prefer to stay in my small corner of the fandom and usually don't bother to argue or correct anymore. I've said many things you have mentioned myself and I'm probably done with this topic. It's pointless to be upset about what some people do with their barbies - but you should hold you ground when someone says something idiotic like that the brothel experience is "healing" and you should defo do it for him. The poly thing is so badly done I'm not even sure why he'd dismiss that option with Shadowheart in Act 3 if he's poly, to be honest.
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🦊Culture Shock🐰 A Jungkook Series - Episode 5: Television/Shows (Ft. Yoongi) (+ mini scenario)
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Summary: Jungkook starts a podcast with his best friend who is a foreigner to discuss different topics they were shocked culturally about.
Author's Note: Hello my beautiful readers! I GOT A JOB! WOOOOOO!!! I manifested this!
Author's Note PS: If you'd like to be tagged, interact with this. I am tagging people who reblog, but if you wish to be tagged comment or simply reblog and I will add you! If you see your name in red, I was unable to tag you for some reason, so for that I do apologize.
Pairing: Jungkook x BFF!Reader (not dating, just two best friends)
Fandom: BTS
Warnings: Mentions of sex, cringy, full of crack moments.
Genre: Fluff, crack.
Word Count: 5.3k
Taglist: @7ndipity; @yoongimentita7; @ancoraesisto; @lovemeforeternity; @hrtss4jk; @ellelabelle; @fullpaperperfection; @minpdrecs; @chaconnelatte; @myemmap; @4ev3rdarkarti5t; @hushbabesblog; @drop-dead-yulisa; @bubbletae-1e; @alylista; @jarenpolitovari
🡸 Previous episode
[PODCAST INTRO/THEME]
🦊: *bumps into the mic* Oop! *in between chuckles* Sorry guys!~
Jungkook: Get it together!
🦊: Oh my god~ HEY, King!
Jungkook: Hello peasant.
Yoongi: *snickers*
🦊: O- You know what? That's mean~
Jungkook: *trying not to laugh* Okay
🦊: He's just pouty because he lost in a 1-v-1 on Splatoon against me. Jungkook: It's a stupid game~ Why is it in third person?~ And, why can you see my snipper laser?
🦊: Just get over it!~
Jungkook: Okay!~ Fine! *long pause* For our listeners~
🦊: Exactly. For our listeners~
Jungkook: Before we begin, we do have a millennial in our sights.
🦊: *snickers*
Jungkook: *in between chuckles* This is our second guest! Min Yoongi!~
🦊: *claps their hands*
Yoongi: Hello everyone! I'm Suga from BTS.
Jungkook: Hyung, don't be so formal~ Our listeners don't care.
🦊: Legit, they like that we're relatable.
Yoongi: Okay, okay
🦊: Just like Suchwita.
Yoongi: Without the alcohol.
Jungkook: *gasps* Should we?!~
🦊: *gasps* Daehyun?
*long pause* *muffled voice*
🦊: *gasps* Okay! I'll get it! *in a distant voice* Whiskey?
Yoongi: Yes, please
Jungkook: Get us a beer, please!~
[Spongebob Narrator: Five minutes later]
🦊: We all have our alcohol!~
Yoongi: Thank you, Y/N.
Jungkook: Thank you!
🦊: I would just like to say, we saw Barbie~
Jungkook: We saw Barbie.
Yoongi: Oh! I haven't seen it.
🦊: *gasps* Oh my god~ You know, it's okay. I'll take you.
Jungkook: Y/N cried!
Yoongi: Really?~ Why?
Both: Well-
🦊: Okay! First off, I did NOT expect that Billie Eilish song to hit me so hard!
Jungkook: And not to give spoilers but, it was everything good.
🦊: It's a TRUE feminist icon. It's not misandry, which is what basically every publication is saying it is-
Jungkook: Oh! Absolutely not.
🦊: And it's not misogyny. It's true feminism. Wh-
Jungkook: Without spoiling anything, it had all three-
🦊: Yeah!
Jungkook: It had misandry, misogyny, AND feminism. And it showed how both misandry and misogyny can just be downright ugly and hurtful for the people who are being disliked, and prejudiced while feminism is genuinely something we should all aspire to do.
Yoongi: Oh! I'll give it a shot.
🦊: I saw that in East Asia, a lot of women are taking their partners, especially their cis-male partners, to see Barbie. And basically, they're testing how much of a green flag they are depending on how they feel before the movie, how long they last during the movie and what is their thoughts after the movie.
Jungkook: Oh! Wait, am I a green flag?
🦊: *long pause* Well-
Jungkook: *in between laughs* WHY'RE YOU THINKING ABOUT IT?!
Yoongi: *laughs*
🦊: *in between laughs* Okay! You're the type of green that is making its way toward yellow, but it's not completely yellow.
Jungkook: Okay, at least I'm not completely yellow or orange OR RED!
Yoongi: Be grateful.
🦊: Exa- Thank you, Yoongi!~
Jungkook: Definitely watch it, hyung.
Yoongi: Would you have watched it if Y/N hadn't taken you to the movies?
Jungkook: *silence*
*Yoongi and 🦊 laugh loudly*
Jungkook: Okay! Okay! I would have, but I would not have dressed up!
🦊: I was SO surprised we were the only ones dressed up!
Jungkook: Obviously, I was Ken!
🦊: I dressed up as Barbie!
Yoongi: Y/N when we go, do you wanna dress up too?
🦊: *gasps* Really?!
Yoongi: Yeah, I'll be K-
🦊: No~ Be Allan~ Because you're one of a kind~
Jungkook: *gasps* OH! Okay RIZZGOD!
Yoongi: *snickers then laughs*
Jungkook: You trying to rizz up Yoongi-hyung?
🦊: No~ *long pause* Okay, yeah~
*All laugh*
🦊: Before we begin! I would just like to say that this topic was thought up by Jungkook.
Yoongi: I would have liked to participate in the music one.
🦊: Oh! We can have your opinion on that!
Yoongi: *long pause* Well, I would but honestly Jungkook basically said what I thought about reggaetón.
🦊: Fair enough. I know you have some... *chuckles* Opinions on dembow and phonk.
Yoongi: *chuckles* They're just not for me, but you and Jungkook look like you have fun while dancing to it.
Jungkook: And not like... perreando!
🦊: OH! HE ROLLED HIS R'S!~
Jungkook: Rrrrr~ *laughs* We just goof around.
🦊: We meme dance.
Yoongi: *chuckles*
🦊: Like... You know how there's the stereotype that white people can't dance? We dance like that stereotype.
Jungkook: Just for fun. Not to make fun of anyone.
🦊: Mmno
Yoongi: They look cute together.
Jungkook: We're not dating.
🦊: So, in this episode we're gonna talk about television shows.
Jungkook: Y/N wanted to bring Yoongi on because he's about to head to th-
🦊: Oh my god! Please don't remind me!
Yoongi: *snickers then laughs*
Jungkook: Y/N is really close to all seven of us, but they're especially close to Hobi-hyung, Yoongi-hyung, and me. And since Hobi-hyung is already there~
🦊: I'm suffering...
Jungkook: They have- Okay, they have not taken it well!
Yoongi: Really?
🦊: Yeah... I think that's why in the last episode I cried. You told us- Or, rather, told your close friends when you were leaving, and it was no joke, the day before we decided to record.
Yoongi: Oh!~ I'm sorry!
🦊: I really tried to hold it in, but like thinking about Hobi already being there, and you leaving, just made me think, you know-
Yoongi: It's inevitable...
🦊: Yeah... Jungkook is gonna leave too, and that made me really sad because Hobi and you are my close friends, and that hurts. And I have cried. But Jungkook is my BEST friend... So...
Jungkook: But it's not like you're NOT gonna see us for a year and a half. We saw Hobi-hyung and Jin-hyung!
🦊: Oh my god, I hugged Hobi SO HARD! You guys have no idea. I lowkey cried too.
Jungkook: Both of them had tears in their eyes.
Yoongi: It was so beautiful to see.
🦊: *singing* When did it end?~ All the enjoyment?~
Jungkook: *singing* I'm sad again!~
Both: *singing* Don't tell my boyfriend~
Jungkook: *singing* It's not what he's made for~
Yoongi: *chuckles*
Jungkook: Going back to it.
Yoongi: Mhm.
Jungkook: Y/N wanted you here to get a perspective of shows you watched as a kid since when you were in first grade, we were both just about to be born.
🦊: *snickers*
Yoongi: *hums* Interesting.
🦊: Which, okay, let's be honest. You at the age of 12 were already a professional producer, so...-
Jungkook: Ballin' with a dollar in his pocket.
Yoongi: I was making money but it wasn't like-
🦊: A lot.
Yoongi: Exactly.
Jungkook: Funny how we brought a guest who didn't watch-
Yoongi: *laughs*
Jungkook: *in between chuckles* A lot of television as a kid.
🦊: But he wasn't ostracized, right?
Yoongi: *in between chuckles* No~ no... I did see it here and there, I just didn't dedicate my time to it since I was focused on music.
🦊: We love an ambitious person.
Jungkook: I didn't watch a lot of television either, but, Y/N introduced me to a lot of shows.
🦊: And he doesn't have time for a lot of them but-
Jungkook: The ones that I really like, I invest A LOT of time. I poop with my phone on my lap-
*Yoongi and 🦊 laugh*
Jungkook: *in between laughs* Everywhere! I try not to lose sleep, but when I'm invested. I am in. ves. ted!
🦊: I remember when I was obsessed with "House of Dragons" and I wanted to gatekeep it from Kookie because~
Jungkook: Wh-!
🦊: BECAUSE! It's such like... Okay, it's the prequel to "Game of Thrones" and the television series is over, but the BOOK series is not over! So I didn't want you to get invested so that afterward you get disappointed!
Jungkook: I didn't know that the "Game of Thrones" ending in the series is not canon!
Yoongi: It's not canon and in the book, Jon is still asleep or in a comma.
🦊: Iconic.
Yoongi: Y/N got me into it because they know that I would get invested but I don't make it my personality, like Jungkook and them.
🦊: Yoongi is an observer~
Jungkook: He is.
🦊: Slytherin energy~
Yoongi: *imitates a snake*
*Jungkook and 🦊 laugh*
🦊: First things first, my first exposure to East Asian shows was anime. And I don't remember which one came first because they all kind of merged together in my head, and it was "Inuyasha", "Naruto", "Pokémon", and "Yu-gi-oh!"
Yoongi: Interesting, because all those shows are from the 90's.
Jungkook: Yeah, when I was born those were already long running.
🦊: Well, I think it's because getting them to the western side, especially to the U.S. and Latin America, took some time.
Yoongi: In Korea, Pokémon first aired in 1999, and I was 6~
🦊: Oh! Puerto Rico, it was also 1999 too
Yoongi: You watched it from the womb?
🦊: *snickers* *in between laughs* Okay! Okay! I remember watching the first episode but I GENIUNELY don't remember how old I was.
Jungkook: I didn't watch ANY western shows as a kid other than Spongebob.
🦊: The icon himself!
Yoongi: Jungkook and Y/N watch Spongebob for fun.
Jungkook: But the first seasons, you know?
🦊: It's the most fun, you can tell when the creator walked away and when it because just not fun.
Jungkook: Mhm.
Yoongi: So, what's your culture shock?
🦊: Oh! Okay! Sorry! Okay, so, I did get exposed to shows, but it was interesting when I grew up I started watching dramas. And with dramas, there's like reality shows and stuff like that.
Yoongi: Right, for promo.
🦊: Exactly. Especially if you wanna be *in between chuckles* Delulu~ And you fall in love with the actor's looks~ And~ *laughs*
*Yoongi and Jungkook laugh*
🦊: Wanna get to know them?~
Yoongi: Right, right.
🦊: One of the things that I picked up on quickly was, the plots were all the same. Poor girl meets asshole rich dude. The rich dude has either a cousin, brother, friend, like someone close to him who is just the nicest person ever and THAT'S the love rival. She still chooses the rich asshole because he changed for her, but then something happens. The most common one is that the mom of the rich asshole finds out and pays her to leave, then one of them has an accident and somehow they make it work and boom. Happily ever after.
Yoongi: That's pretty much the jist of them.
🦊: But, my biggest culture shock is the variety shows.
Jungkook: Really?
🦊: Yeah, I just... Okay. It was- I had a weird feeling, like, I didn't know how to feel.
Jungkook: Why, what happened?
🦊: Okay, so, I remember the first one I watched was Weekly Idol, or Doni and Coni which... EW! They're... I remember when I watched you guys' episode, like the first time you were there and I loved it because I was a child. But watching it as an adult? I was like... Oh my god-
Jungkook: *chuckles* Your ARMY is showing.
🦊: I just! Okay... I just don't understand how someone can harass and be so mean to their guests and get away with it because it's "comedy"... Like... How is saying that Yoongi's song was "shit" comedy?
Jungkook: Ugh...
Yoongi: People have their own opinions, I guess.
🦊: Well, their opinion is WRONG. Like... Side eye. You could have just said it wasn't your taste without saying that it was bad and shit, you know?
Yoongi: I agree.
🦊: But, going back to it, the variety shows took me aback because everything is over-edited.
Jungkook: What do you mean?
🦊: Like... They put colorful subtitles on almost every sentence and these subtitles could be what the person is saying, what the person is doing, or what the editors think the person's inner thoughts are.
Jungkook: Ooooh! I hadn't noticed that. But, it's true~
🦊: And then replaying something shocking multiple times in *in between chuckles* multiple angles
Yoongi: *chuckles* 맞아~
🦊: Which, if you think about it, it's very stimulating and lowkey catering to the deaf community, since closed captions and interpreters are in scarcity on the Western side.
Jungkook: I hadn't really thought about it that way, but it's true~
🦊: That was my biggest culture shock. I got used to it after a while but, you know?
Yoongi: Were you shocked about the games?
🦊: *hums* Okay, so, I was but at the same time I wasn't? I don't know how to explain it.
Jungkook: Says as they're about to explain *chuckles*
🦊: *chuckles* So, I wasn't shocked because variety shows on the Western side also have games, but I was shocked at how queerbait-y the games are.
Yoongi: Like passing a paper member to member with our lips
🦊: It's so obvious fan service, but fan service can be very queerbait-y.
Yoongi: That's true.
🦊: Like, shipping friends with each other is... *groans* Not good~
Jungkook: Yeah.
🦊: But, yeah, I don't have any negative culture shock. Except for me being a Doni and Coni lowkey-highkey hater.
*all laugh*
Yoongi: Y/N introduced me to a lot of 90's shows. And, even though this wraps into the music category, I was shocked at how rock-inspired a lot of shows' intro was.
🦊: Which shows do you have in mind?
Yoongi: "Total Drama Island", "Teen Titans" from the 2000s. "American Dragon: Jake Long", and "Ben 10".
🦊: Okay but the other ones~
Yoongi: We saw "Wizards of Waverly Place", "Hannah Montana", "Sonny with a Chance" and a couple others with real people. And some of those also had inspiration in pop-rock.
🦊: Which is so 2000s if you think about it.
Yoongi: Was pop-rock popular in the 2000s?
🦊: In the western side, ESPECIALLY in the U.S. it was very popular.
Yoongi: I was just listening to hip-hop.
Jungkook: Yes he was~ Hip-hop classes were real.
Yoongi: You loved them
Jungkook: I did!~
🦊: As you can hear, Yoongi truly is an observer.
Jungkook: That was your culture shock?
Yoongi: Yeah!~ I was exposed to U.S. culture fairly young since I really like hip-hop culture.
🦊: What was your culture shock, Galletita?
Jungkook: Mine was... I guess the pipeline?
Yoongi: Pipeline?
🦊: Ooh~
Jungkook: So, Y/N basically explained that there's a pipeline of television, especially if you grew up in the 2000s.
🦊: Yep.
Jungkook: Basically, every kid in the U.S. watched either Disney channel with sitcoms or watched cartoons, but all of them came together to watch the hot new show-
JK and 🦊: "Total Drama Island"!
Jungkook: And basically "Total Drama Island" was-
Yoongi: It was a cartoon reality show.
Jungkook: Exactly. So it didn't take long for a lot of kids to get into real reality shows like "Next", "Cribs", and basically any reality show on MTV.
🦊: The pipeline gets split though. If you continued to watch cartoons, you get into anime. The pipeline goes EVEN DEEPER because if you watched anime, and listened to the openings, you probably got into Vocaloids, which are synthesized voca- I don't know why I'm telling you, yo-
Yoongi: I know about Vocaloids, yeah. I danced with one.
🦊: I. CO. NIC! I was genuinely SO jealous when I found out you were dancing with her. SeeU was SUCH an icon.
Yoongi: *laughs* Really?
🦊: I- Well, I fell in BOTH pipelines, but, I definitely fell more into the anime one.
Yoongi: Right.
🦊: But like, the vocaloid pipeline somehow brings you to the kpop pipeline. Which WEIRDLY the heavy metal rock or even rock music pipeline ALSO brings you to the kpop pipeline.
Yoongi: Interesting.
Jungkook: So, one day Y/N got nostalgic and we kind of watched a show that they were into as a child and I, unknowingly, also followed Y/N's pipeline.
Yoongi: Do we have a pipeline?
Jungkook: *long pause* I guess one of the biggest pipeline is that a lot of men in Korea want to be in either entertainment OR sports just to avoid military duty.
Yoongi: Which is not common, but happens a LOT!
🦊: Did you follow that pipeline?
Yoongi: No, hell no. I wanted to be a producer from a very young age not because I wanted to avoid military duty, but because I genuinely love music.
🦊: You did say it was your first love.
Yoongi: It was.
🦊: *sighs smiling*
Jungkook: If we had a camera recording us, I would look at it as if I was Jim from "The Office"
🦊: *snickers then laughs* Why?~
Jungkook: If you know, you know.
Yoongi: *long pause* I feel like I'm out of the loop for the first time.
🦊: You and I both.
Jungkook: You're ALWAYS out of the loop.
🦊: Okay! If I was out of the loop, how did I find out about the aliens BEFORE you?
Jungkook: Oh god~
Yoongi: What kind of aliens would you like? Ones that can transform like Ben 10? Aliens that look human but have superpowers? Or shapesh-
🦊: SHAPESHIFTING!
*Jungkook and Yoongi laughs*
🦊: You guys DON'T understand! If the aliens could shapeshift, I have a LIST!
Jungkook: *in between laughs* A LIST?!?!
🦊: *in between laughs* I have a list that the alien MUST follow!
Yoongi: Who's on top of the list?
🦊: Okay, right now, Toji Fushiguro~
Yoongi: Mmmm~
🦊: I have a lot of people, mainly anime men, because... I can bag a human.
Jungkook: You can't BAG YOUR CRUSH!
🦊: *gasps*
Yoongi: Jungkook-ah!~ *chuckles* Be nice to Y/N!
🦊: I can bag him, I'm just being respectful.
Yoongi: Exactly... Y/N just respects people's boundaries. Wait... So... Who's on the bottom?
🦊: Sukuna. Ryomen Sukuna. But, not because he's not hot, it's just tha- *muffled giggles*
Yoongi: Oh! They're covering their face!
Jungkook: *groans* Here we go
🦊: He has four arms~
Yoongi: *long pause* Right...
🦊: Two mouths~
Yoongi: *long pause* Okay...
🦊: *long pause* And one of those mouths can move anywhere.
Yoongi: Wait... *snickers* Are you...? *laughs* Are you sayin- I don't even wanna say it!
🦊: I'll say it for you!
Jungkook: *laughs* Stop!
🦊: Please let me say it!
Jungkook: Okay!~
🦊: I want an alien to shapeshift into Ryomen Sukuna because he has four arms, so, he can touch my chest with one hand, guide me with the other hand, stimulate my *clears throats* south with the other hand, and grab the back of my head and pull my hair with the other.
Jungkook: You're forgetting something.
🦊: Oh! Because one of the mouths can move, while he's kissing me, he can lick ANYWHERE he wants with the OTHER tongue~
Yoongi: 세상에!
Jungkook: Tell him about-
🦊: OH MY GOD! Okay... So, he- Okay, he... has two... *long pause*
Yoongi: *gasps* TWO?!
🦊: TWO!
Yoongi: Are they side by side? Up and down?
🦊: We actually DON'T have ANY confirmation. But my headcanon is that they're up and down.
Yoongi: How many balls does he have? Two or four? Are they ALSO up and down or side to side?
🦊: Hmm... I hadn't thought about it.
Yoongi: If it's four, there's more.. um... Milk *giggles*
*Jungkook and 🦊 laughs*
🦊: Yeah... And I wanna be filled by Sukuna.
Jungkook: WHY Sukuna, he's LEGIT EVIL!
🦊: Okay~ He's not EVIL!~ He's just... Umm... He's ju-
Jungkook: *deadpan* Y/N, his first lines were "Where are the people? The women? What a wonderful era to be in. Women and children are crawling everywhere like maggots. It's marvelous. It'll be a massacre."
🦊: I can fix him.
Yoongi: *laughs* Can you?!
🦊: I can!~
Jungkook: I mean-
🦊: Well, I-
Yoongi: I have no doubt about that.
🦊: *silent*
Jungkook: I'm looking at the invisible camera.
🦊: Guys?
Yoongi: Hmm?
🦊: Let's pause for a minute. I need to use the bathroom. *muffled movement sounds*
Jungkook: They have a small bladder when it comes to alcohol *chuckles*
🦊: *in a distant voice* You can edit it out, right Dae?
*muffled voice*
🦊: Purr, be right back.
[silence]
Jungkook: *whispering* Are you gonna do it today?
Yoongi: I don't see a point...
Jungkook: Why?~
Yoongi: Well... They JUST called me their "close friend" just now, and I'm about to leave for the mi-
Jungkook: *scoffs* Okay. YOU get to go home because you're going to go to a government office because of your shoulder
Yoongi: Yeah, but I can't do an-
Jungkook: Hyung... Why can't you trust me? I'm their best friend! I know better!
Yoongi: *sighs* *mumbles* You don't get it...
Jungkook: *sighs* *long pause* I'll leave the episode early, so you can close with them. They listen to the podcast, so, if you don't do anything, I'll post it unedited.
Yoongi: Why would y-
Jungkook: Because I know you, and I know them... You two need a little push and this is it.
Yoongi: *gulps* *sighs softly* fine...
🦊: *from a distance* I'm back!~ Sorry I took so long *giggles*
🦊: What else is there to talk about?
Jungkook: How was your first time at HYBE?
🦊: Oh! It was awesome! I was so happy I get to teach the trainees~ Though I wouldn't have minded if I got you!
Yoongi: It would have been fun for you to teach me Spanish...
🦊: Right?! But, I don't need a job to teach you! We're friends, right?
Yoongi: *hums agreeing*
Jungkook: Plus, he's just learning to impress you!
🦊: *scoffs then giggles* Stop! He already impresses me with his music. 28 is my ANTHEM!
Jungkook: You switch the lyrics to Spanish!
🦊: It's fun!~ *singing* Me 'stoy volviendo un adulto~ No me acueLdo 'e na'~ Mis sueños y ambiciones donde estan? Estan lejanas~ Ya no veo ni donde esta la meta!~
Yoongi: *chuckles* 재밌네~
🦊: 그죠~ Jungkook doesn't like it when I do it, but it's SO fun~
Jungkook: Guys... Do the closing without me, I have to go somewhere.
🦊: Wha~ *pouty* But your schedule is free! I got it right here...
Jungkook: It's something with Bam... I'm sorry! It's an emergency!
🦊: OH MY GOD! GO GO! Take care of my nephew! HURRY!
Jungkook: *muffles movements* *in a slightly distant voice* *chuckles* I will! *long pause* Hyung...
Yoongi: 어... 할게...
🦊: 뭐가 할거예요?
Jungkook: Don't worry about it.
🦊: Well! Kookie had an emergency! But Yoongi and I can finish up, right?
Yoongi: Yeah. Thank you for having me here today.
🦊: Thank you for being here!
Yoongi: *gulps* What if I came back to the podcast, would that be okay?
🦊: Oh! That'll be so dope! I'd love to hear your opinion on more things.
Yoongi: I'm an avid listener, so, it's gonna be weird listening to today's podcast once it goes live.
🦊: You'll love it. Daehyun does aMAZING editing.
Yoongi: *long pause* You never reveal your crush, do you?
🦊: *in between chuckles* No... I just- *long pause* *mumbles shyly* I know he listens, his friends have told me...
Yoongi: *hums*... *long pause* Do I know him?
🦊: Mmmm... Maybe!~ *chuckles*
Yoongi: *hums*
🦊: *in between chuckles* Why are you staring at me?
Yoongi: I just noticed how long your lashes are...
🦊: What?~ That was so sudden!
Yoongi: Well... *chuckles* I don't know, it's- I find it kinda cute..
🦊: W-WELP! That's all the time we have! Our producer is telling us to wrap it up!
Yoongi: Leave suggestions for Jungkook and Y/N in the comments and what you would like for them to talk about in the future.
🦊: Yep. And don't forget to stream the D-Day trilogy but Agust D!
Yoongi: Again, thank you so much for having me.
🦊: *mumbles shyly* You're welcome anytime...
Yoongi: 여러분 안녕히게세요
🦊: Hasta el proximo episodio!
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Daehyun gives you a thumbs up, indicating that the recording is done for Yoongi and you. You look at him and bow slightly as he smiles softly. You take off your headphones and look back at him smiling slightly then said
"You did great, our listeners are gonna like it!"
"You think so?" He responded. A bit shyly, but not enough to be shown.
You nod and then stand up, a bit too enthusiastically. Daehyun signals you to come to him to inspect the track and what needs to be edited out. You nod at him and then look back at Yoongi, asking him if he would like to be shown out. He shakes his head and then tells Daehyun that he would like to help edit the episode, something that surprised you.
"I thought you had a schedule to-"
"It's okay. I can stay for a little longer" He interrupted.
"I don't want you to get in trouble..."
"I won't. Daehyun can you play it back at exactly minute 49?"
You furrow your eyebrows and look at his empty whiskey glass, thinking to yourself how he couldn't be drunk, since nobody got refills, as per Daehyun's request. Then you put on your headphones to listen back to the audio, pushing the microphone slightly away and taking off your notebook to take notes. You hear yourself stumbling away from the microphone and telling Yoongi and Jungkook that you would be right back. There's a long pause, and you weren't there, but you could feel the air thickening, just as it is at the moment you and Yoongi are playing back the audio. You gulp writing down that this part should definitely be taken away. Then, you hear it. Yoongi and Jungkook talking about how he should do something today, by the sounds of it, a confession. A love confession. You pause your writing, keeping your face as neutral as possible. Looking at the notebook, rather than the eyes that are definitely looking for your reaction. You feel your eyes begin to twitch as if they're about to sprout water, your nose begin to flare, and your cheeks begin to redden as you puzzle that they're talking about you.
Jungkook knew about your crush on Yoongi. He also knew that you didn't want to do anything because you thought it was only a simple crush, but that came to a crash when he called you and told you when he was leaving for the military. You faked your nonchalantness and told him that you would miss him as much as you missed Hobi, but that was the day that the snow melted and spring came when it came to your feelings. You cried to Jungkook that day, and coming into the studio he rented to record was hard. Especially because you had to fake being enthusiastic and happy. In the end, you couldn't hold it in. You were gonna miss Jungkook, he was your best friend. But missing Yoongi was gonna tear your heart apart. When recording that episode ended, Jungkook said to not give up hope and that something for sure was gonna happen. Something happy.
You looked at Daehyun nonchalantly and told him to keep it as it is without any editing, the excuse being that the listeners would like the authenticity. Then, you quickly took off your headphones and gathered your things. Fearing that you wouldn't make it to the door, you rushed your steps. It's not you... You don't wanna get your hopes up. You know he wouldn't like you in a romantic sense. You two are vastly different, another reason why you never spoke your feelings to him. You were bubbly, outgoing, a bit extroverted, loud, and talked with anybody and anything. Complete opposite of him. When you stepped out the door, you let out a breath you didn't know you were holding and let your tears fall. Silently crying.
"Y/N? You okay?" You heard Jungkook's voice, but that was quickly dismissed as a hand grabbed yours.
You looked up and saw Yoongi, motioning you to follow him. You nodded and followed him to an empty studio.
"You don't like me?" He asked, a bit unsure and insecure.
You shook your head, disagreeing with him, something he understood. You felt tears staining your cheeks, your breath shorten, and your cheeks reddened as you said
"I like you..." In a shaky voice. "I like you a lot. I just didn't think that you'd like me. I'm not tall, I'm loud, I'm- I don't have any qualities that you'd like..."
His face softened as he got closer. He cupped your cheeks and wiped your tears with his thumbs. You continued by saying
"I stumble in my Korean. I'm not even Korean! Why would you like me?"
"Why wouldn't I?" He responded in a soft, slightly hushed voice, taking you by surprise.
"I like that you're extroverted." He continued "If we eat out, I know I can count on you helping me with my social anxiety. So what if you're not tall? I think you'd fit nicely in my arms."
He pulled you into a hug, smiling softly. He then nuzzled his face in the crook of your neck and slowly took in your scent. He leaned back a little.
"I was right." He said smiling gently. "You have other qualities that I like... Like... How excited you get talking about anime and video games is so beautiful to me. Your eyes sparkle, your tone of voice gets higher, your body language gets more expressive, you use your hands more."
He gently pushed a strand of hair away and looked into your eyes while saying "So what if you stumble in your Korean? At least you know Korean! Which is more than I can say when it comes to Spanish."
You chuckled, smiling while wiping your tears.
"And so what if you're not Korean?... I fell in love with YOU, not your nationality or ethnicity"
You gasped softly and looked into his eyes whispering "Love?" He chuckled and nodded then sighed.
"I know it's a big word, but it's how I feel... And I don't wanna leave for the military without telling you how I feel."
You cupped his cheek and studied his face. He has gotten chubbier in the cheeks, his skin paler than usual, and his hair was shorter, probably to prepare it to get cut. You got on your tippy toes slightly and pecked his lips first to see if it was okay. This took him by surprise but it didn't last long for him to hug your waist and kiss you back.
You pulled away and smiled then hugged him. His arms hugged you back as you leaned your head on his right shoulder, sniffling slightly and apologizing for crying, something he dismissed quickly. Your moment was quickly ruined when you and Yoongi almost fell from Jungkook jump-hugging you.
"AY! YA! Don't be stupid!" You said as you pushed Jungkook away. Yoongi already taking the liberty of letting go of you so that you and Jungkook could push each other around.
"You got your love confession! Thanks to ME~ The BEST wingman EVER!" Jungkook exclaimed as he wrapped his tattooed arm around your shoulder and neck. You groaned playfully and pushed him off you, but that didn't stop him from doing it again.
"Say I'm the best, and I'll let you go~" Jungkook said smiling from ear to ear.
"You're the WORST! Estupido, how could you force a confession out of Yoongles!~"
"Hey! He wasn't planning on doing it, and you were all mopy. I had to do something!"
You sighed and hugged him, burying your face in his chest, and said in a mumbled voice
"You're the best..." which came out in a slightly muffled sound.
"AH! Did you hear that, hyung?! THE. BEST! I gotta tell Jimin!" Jungkook said as he pushed you off of him and took off his phone.
You and Yoongi looked at each other and smiled. Promising to talk to each other more in his apartment.
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eowyntheavenger · 2 months ago
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I am SO pissed off.
My ex-boyfriend posted this on social media: “Men will sacrifice their everything for the happiness of a woman, but women will sacrifice men for their own happiness.”
This is beyond stupid. First of all, anything that claims “men are like this, women are like that” is sexist garbage and a huge red flag. Second, he didn’t sacrifice a single thing for me, let alone “everything,” so that’s ridiculous. And third, I didn’t “sacrifice” him either, I just decided my life was better off without his presence ruining it. What the fuck. I’m so glad I broke up with this guy.
When we were together, I told him I was depressed because of a difficult situation I was dealing with at work, and he told me to simply “stop feeling depressed,” which is not only mean and unsympathetic but also incredibly dumb. If it were that easy, then nobody would be depressed. I told him that he really offended me, and in response he made a bunch of excuses. Of course.
Somehow even worse than that - and both of these things made me break up with him - after we’d known each other for three months, and had been together for one month, I noticed he was no longer interested in learning more about me or asking me questions about myself. So I told him, “you know, I enjoy learning more about you, and I hope you also want to continue learning more about me,” and he said, “I know everything about you. I don’t need to know anything else.”
AFTER A FEW MONTHS?! No, you fucking do not know everything about me. What the fuck. It is unfathomable that anyone would think this, let alone say this to a person they claimed to care about.
I can only conclude one thing, which is that he didn’t really see me as a person, he saw me as an object. People are actually complicated and multidimensional, and getting to know somebody takes a long time. Not to mention, if you’re soooooo in love with me, you should WANT to get to know me, you would WANT to ask me about my life and my thoughts and my interests. But I guess not.
The thing is, some men view women as objects in the sense that they view them as lesser. But this guy, this guy slipped under the radar because he actually thought I was better than him in every way. But he put me on a pedestal so much that he apparently decided I didn’t need anything from him, not even sympathy or kindness or, like, being interested in me as a person?
This makes me froth at the mouth with rage because when we got together he actually asked me what I want out of a relationship and I said, “Understanding.” And then this pathetic excuse for a man made the minimal effort to get to know me AND THEN CONCLUDED that he knew everything.
What a disgusting attitude to have towards anyone. “I know everything about you. I don’t need to know anything else.” Keep in mind, he said that while fully believing that he was in love with me, and then acted surprised when I was hurt. This is NOT the kind of thing you say to someone you love.
I have to laugh: “Women will sacrifice men for their own happiness.” Yeah, genius, if you’re not making me happy, why the fuck would I keep you in my life?
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thatonetwig · 8 months ago
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Love your work! Also, I'm a bit of a fan of Hood x Void, and the ship name you gave for them is very cool! Speaking of, what do you think would happen if Hood encountered Void's A.C. form for the first time?
Perfect time to share one of my excerpts!
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Hood slowly opened his eyes and looked around in confusion while still feeling disoriented.
"What...happened?", he questioned himself.
Suddenly, he looked up and saw Void floating above the arena with purple sparks forming at his feet. Hood stood up, and he realized that Void was now a darker shade of purple than he usually was.
"Void?! Void! Are you okay?! What happened?!", he called out to him.
Void turned around and saw Hood down below.
"Heh...took you long enough to wake up. Just in time to witness the destruction of the universe...", he said in a voice deeper than Void's own.
The realization struck Hood like a meteorite; he wasn't talking to Void. Rather, something entirely different speaking through his body like a parasite.
"Y-you! Who do you think you are?! W-what have you done with Void?!", Hood demanded angrily.
"Oh you simple-minded organism...haha...", the entity laughed.
"You can refer to me as...A.C. And to put it simply, he's gone. Void is gone."
Hood's anger immediately shifted into fear and an overwhelming sense of despair when he heard those words.
"W-what d-do you m-mean...?", he questioned shakily.
"Well, I was something about him that he didn't tell you about. He was scared; scared of you leaving him for what he truly was beneath the surface...honestly so pathetic...", A.C. said in a taunting manner that felt like a knife being plunged directly into Hood's heart.
"H-he...d-didn't tell me...b-because he was scared...?", Hood asked, sounding like he was about to cry any moment now.
"You heard me correctly. Anyway, before everything else is reduced to nothing, I wanted to strike a deal with you.", A.C. said in a casual manner.
Hood raised his head in shock as he stared up at the entity once again.
"A...deal?"
"Yeah. Imma be honest, in spite of the many times I cringed at you two, it did give me a good laugh from time to time.", A.C. replied.
"So, as a bit of a thank you, I'll spare you from the destruction of this universe as we know it if you don't get in my way. What do you say? Do we have a deal?"
Hood lowered his head in despair as his voice trembled heavily.
"Y-ye-"
Suddenly, Hood caught himself mid-sentence and felt something awaken within him. It was a feeling that he had never experienced this intensely before; determination. But it wasn't the kind that urged him to run away from danger. No. it was the kind that urged him to fight against it in-spite of his own capabilities. Feeling this, he raised his head once again and looked the entity directly in the eyes.
"No! We don't have a deal! I know Void is still in there somewhere! You think I'll just let you get away with this after all you've done?! You sure as hell won't so long as I'm here! You ain't destroying the universe! Not now, not ever!", Hood shouted in pure determination as he got into a fighting stance.
"Ha...", A.C. chuckled.
"You know, they really were right when they said that love makes you blind to even the biggest of red flags...gotta laugh at the stupidity, really.", A.C. said as the sparks at his feet grew in intensity.
"No matter...you're just another speck in the universe at the end of the day that will be squashed like a bug under my shoe. You ready?", A.C. asked.
Hood didn't back down and nodded his head and taunted the entity with his fists.
"Hehe...should've run away when you had the chance."
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bookishfeylin · 2 years ago
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I would LOVE to hear your opinions on Calanmai, actually. To me, the scene was so frustrating mainly because Feyre is told multiple times to simply not go outside, and people always use that as an excuse for her… going outside because they didn’t tell her a reason why so it’s just chalked up as her having natural “human curiosity”. But then she gets into trouble, and after she’s saved that boundary is reestablished, but… she still decides to leave and it’s no longer her “human curiosity” driving her, but her jealousy??? That Tamlin will be having sex with other people under no control of his own??? So she goes out to find Tamlin in hopes that… what? Something would happen??? Hello? Like, I think it was Lucien that explains to her that since Tamlin is attracted to her he’d try and seek her out or something, but that doesn’t stop her. Which, huh? Tamlin doesn’t want her going out to avoid this specific situation, and yet she completely disregards that.
As for Tamlin, I always saw Calanmai as sexual assault for the person participating in it, especially since we find out that Tamlin doesn’t even want to do it??? Hello??? Not to mention that this magic is not the same as being drunk, it’s literally a possession by some “entity” that quite literally forces you to seek out and have sex with the next thing that moves. Hello??? He literally… has no choice at all. Which was honestly disgusting to read because it doesn’t come under any questioning within text. But at the same time during the bite we see him garner some type of self control and tells her to leave… so he can control himself to some degree??? He just wanted to teach her some sort of lesson??? Like tf dude? Hello? Management? I’d like to file a complaint.
When I first read this scene as a young teen not understanding the world, I always blamed Feyre because she was told multiple times not to leave, but she still… fucking left. Especially in hopes that something would happen, and when something did happen she blamed him, as if she wasn’t warned. But I’m older and less stupid now, and I just blame the author now for even WRITING this scene, cause it’s EVERYONE getting assaulted under no scrutiny or critique in the text on why Calanmai is assault for Tamlin, and WHY the fuck she would write Feyre as “wanting” Tamlin in that moment of her assault (I’m noticing this pattern with Feyre for some reason, why does this woman keep writing Feyre as “wanting” her assaulter in the moment in which she is/was getting assaulted???).
The only thing I liked about this scene is that Tamlin was rightfully called out for his behavior. Feyre made no excuses for him, and he had to apologize. Loved that. Even Lucien gives him flack for it which is more than anyone has ever given Dark Daddy Rhys. Curious to hear your thoughts.
Oh nonny, you have opened the flood gates, because boy do I have FEELINGS about the Calanmai scene.
To start with, I've always had mixed feelings about it, mainly due to what you already said, but then I read this post by @longsightmythyth and it complicated things even more for me.
I feel like, to analyze the Calanmai scene, we need to be mindful of multiple things:
1- what the text explicitly says about Calanmai
2- Tamlin and Feyre's reactions during and after the Calanmai scene
3- that this scene, regardless of how we feel about it, was intended by Sarah to be a red flag
So first, let's review what is established about Calanmai per canon.
“We do this by conducting the Great Rite. Each of the seven High Lords of Prythian performs this every year, since their magic comes from the earth and returns to it at the end—it’s a give-and-take.”
“Tonight, Tam will allow … great and terrible magic to enter his body,” Lucien said, staring at the distant fires. “The magic will seize control of his mind, his body, his soul, and turn him into the Hunter. It will fill him with his sole purpose: to find the Maiden. From their coupling, magic will be released and spread to the earth, where it will regenerate life for the year to come.” My face became hot, and I fought the urge to fidget. “Tonight, Tam won’t be the faerie you know,” Lucien said. “He won’t even know his name. The magic will consume everything in him but that one basic command—and need.”
“You’re lucky I found you when I did, though,” he said. “Because he would have smelled you, and claimed you, but it wouldn’t have been Tamlin who brought you into that cave.”
It made me sick—the thought of Tamlin forcing me, that magic could strip away any sense of self, of right or wrong.
These are all from ACOTAR, chapter 21.
To recap: all seven High Lords are SUPPOSED to do Calanmai (but Sarah promptly forgets this piece of worldbuilding when ACOMAF rolls around <insert angry rant about retcons here>). The magic enters and takes control of the High Lord's body, apparently overpowering the Lord's consciousness and forcing the Lord to have sex with someone it's the rapey vibes for meeeeeeeee to generate enough magic to rejuvenate the land, because, as I discussed in this post, we are told that High Lord isn't just a title--it involves a deep, psychic connection to the court itself, which is why Feyre's title as High Lady is an empty title. Calanmai involves possession by a foreign entity, as you said. This brings up all kinds of ethical questions about consent, because... what if the High Lord doesn't want to do it? Being possessed and forced to have sex is WILDLY violating at the BEST of times. This is also why it bothers me when, in ACOWAR, Tamlin is vilified for not wanting to do Calanmai. It's still wrong that Lucien had to do it and was raped by Ianthe, mind you, but should Tamlin have been forced to have sex he didn't want to have? Should he? Calanmai is very icky all around, and for a series claiming to be about abuse and SA and mental health and whatnot, it's downright disgusting.
At any rate... so Calanami consists of a High Lord being possessed and made to have sex with someone. Prior to Calanmai occurring, and knowing that, whilst controlled by magic, he would likely have sex with her, Tamlin specifically tells Feyre he does not want to interact with her during Calanmai and he tells her to stay away from him.
“And I’m not invited to your ceremony?” “No. You’re not.” He clenched and loosened his fingers, again and again, as if trying to keep the claws contained. (ACOTAR Chapter 19)
“Just do it.” His canines began to lengthen. My heart leaped into a gallop. “Don’t come out until morning.” ... He lifted a hand as if to touch my arm. But he lowered it before his fingers could graze the fabric of my tunic. “Stay in your chamber, Feyre.” “But I—” “Please.” (ACOTAR Chapter 20)
So Tamlin DOES NOT CONSENT TO NOR DOES HE WANT the infamous Calanmai scene to occur, contrary to popular belief. Although he's too embarrassed to explicitly state what occurs on Calanmai (given he's starting to grow feelings for Feyre at this point in the book), he still sets a clear boundary with Feyre that he asks her not to cross. Meanwhile, prior to the Calanmai scene, Feyre is upset that she's not invited to the ceremony, before ultimately going anyway. Because screw boundaries, I guess. Feyre is found by Rhysand+Lucien, given full details about Calanmai in chapter 21, and then heads back to her room.
Right after the ceremony is over, Feyre, jealous that Tamlin had sex with someone else, leaves her room again to get food. This time, the violation of Tamlin's boundary--stay away from me until morning--is UNINTENTIONAL, because although she is jealous, she doesn't leave for the express purpose of finding Tamlin and joining in on the fun like she did originally. She just wants a cookie. And then the Calanmai scene actually happens. The real question, of who's "at fault" for Calanmai, and whether or not it counts as a red flag, truly depends on whether or not Tamlin was possessed at the time. Tumblr won't allow me to copy and paste the whole thing into this post (or a separate one, for that matter) so I recommend opening ACOTAR Chapter 21 and rereading the entire scene in its entirety, because there were a few lines from this scene that I thought were important:
"His voice was not entirely of this world."
"He reeked of magic. When I looked into his eyes, remnants of power flickered there. No kindness, none of the wry humor and gentle reprimands. The Tamlin I knew was gone."
"Still riding the magic, he was half-wild."
Based on these lines of text, and Tamlin's instructions to remain in her room until morning, specifically, and not until after the ceremony, it seems that it takes the magic several hours to fully leave its host's body, and that Tamlin was still possessed somewhat when this scene occurred. So I disagree with you slightly, anon--Tamlin isn't biting Feyre to teach her a lesson or be spiteful. If I am reading this scene correctly, it appears that Tamlin is attempting to wrestle back control of his body from the magic, and that he only succeeds in doing so at the end of the scene, which is when he pulls away. Aside from the very end, it seems safe to say that Tamlin is still possessed at this point in time. (Hence, Feyre's narration saying "the Tamlin I knew was gone.") Afterwards, Tamlin is upset because he did not consent to that occurring whilst he was possessed, nor did he want that to occur.
“I bit her,” Tamlin said, not pausing as he cut his steak. “We ran into each other in the hall after the Rite.” I straightened in my chair. “She seems to have a death wish,” he went on, cutting his meat. The claws stayed retracted but pushed against the skin above his knuckles. My throat closed up. Oh, he was mad—furious at my foolishness for leaving my room—but somehow managed to keep his anger on a tight, tight leash. “So, if Feyre can’t be bothered to listen to orders, then I can’t be held accountable for the consequences.” ... “While I might not have been myself, Lucien and I both told you to stay in your room,” Tamlin said, so calmly that I wanted to rip out my hair (ACOTAR Chapter 22)
That being said, I still think this is a very rude thing to say, boundaries crossed or not, and I'm glad he apologized. @longsightmyth, who wrote the Calanmai post I mentioned earlier, argues that this scene is correctly interpreted as Feyre taking advantage of Tamlin, given the text is clear he's still possessed during the scene ("the Tamlin I knew was gone"), and given his lack of consent, along with taking steps to keep Feyre away from him. I respectfully disagree, though. To me, this scene reads like them BOTH being taken advantage of. While we can argue about the stupidity of Feyre leaving her room all day, Feyre clearly did not want to get bitten and was quite upset about it later on, and Tamlin did not want Feyre to interact with him, revoked his consent for her doing so, and took steps to keep her away from him. They're both being taken advantage of here--but not by each other, by magic. This whole scene is quite literally the fault of the magic possessing Tamlin.
And for this reason, I can't say I view this scene as a red flag or an indictment of Tamlin's character. Tamlin has other red flags, as I elaborated on in this and this post, but now that I've spent several days thinking everything over so that I could answer you, anon, I don't think Calanmai counts as one of those red flags. While it's clear this is Sarah attempting to parallel a drunk man sexually assaulting a woman, this isn't that--it's straight up possession, being forced by an outside entity to act a certain way. And there's no real world parallel for possession, regardless of what Sarah thinks.
That, too, explains why I think this series fails to properly discuss abuse as a theme. It is very hard to apply real-world morals about red flags and abuse to a fantasy series where your magic explodes out of you when you get emotional and when the magic possesses you once a year and makes you have sex. You just... can't.
At any rate, I hope this answer was satisfying, nonny! And I'm sorry this took so long for me to answer. I hope the length of my response made up for it :)
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colormepurplex2 · 6 months ago
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I don't know how, but I can somehow relate to JK and it's kind of terrifying. It's scary if I ever find a boyfriend that has characters like Jiyoon, without support from Taehyung and even FMC. (I'm just guessing Jiyoon's character based om the fact you're trying to write her POV that she's probably not so bad if not for Dani's influence and maybe other stuff). I find myself quite naive and blind to kindness. The part where Jungkook just really trying to salvage their marriage and support Jiyoom because she's labeled as his wife is just... really sad but quite frankly can happen to me. I can imagine thinking to myself "he was kind before, he's not always like this" "we're already married now, we've said our vows" "he's probably having a tough time and I should be there for him". And Jungkook's first instinct or reflect whenever Jiyoon is sad is kind of relatable, especially the part where he can easily forgive. I don't think I would've had the courage like Jungkook to think clearly of the red flag (the part when he said he knows that Jiyoon is aware of his weakness and that she can make him crawl back to her). I've had betrayals and dissappoinments that should last me a lifetime yet I'm too stupid to learn the signs (and ironically I'm a psychology major). Kindness hurts and being a kind person also hurts A LOT. Like it or not, want it or not, you'll "feel" and that is painful more of often than not.
Aww, Anon, thank you for being so open with this discussion. I don't like to think of people who are like this as "too stupid to learn the signs" because I'm wholeheartedly in the belief that it comes from a space of empathy and kind-heartedness. From the outside looking in, others might call us naive and can't possibly understand how we could not see the signs or why we'd 'stay with that person' when we *know* they're not good for us? But, it's a LOT easier said than done when it boils down to it. Even when we know the danger and that we'll probably end up hurt, we can't help that we yearn for that personal connection. And if it's with someone that we previously had a connection with, it's even harder to turn away or think they can't be 'saved' in a sense. And the cherry on the proverbial shit cake is simply that most of the time when a relationship ends (especially in the way JK's and Jiyoon's did), it's typically one-sided. There is always one person who never asked for it, who never thought it was possible for the person they love to not love them back any longer/the way they do. So, yes, Jungkook loves his life now and is going to be happy with the FMC, but that wasn't his end goal from the start, y'know? He, never in a million years, saw himself separating from Jiyoon because she was the person he wanted to spend his life with, prickly edges or not, he chose her...he was happy, all things considered. It is true that kindhearted people tend to be hurt the most, but I like to think that they are what keeps the world from completely falling apart ❤️ no matter how hurt they are, they are resilient and are utterly priceless.
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What are you hiding from love?| Yandere!Jk x Reader Part II
Summary: Being in a relationship with Jungkook you’ve always noticed the signs, the red flags if you will. Being so in love with him you ignored them, until the people you loved dearly started disappearing one by one.
Warnings: Murder, Jungkook victim blaming ( like he will say i killed you because you are too stupid or whatever), Possessiveness, Mentions of Smut, Controlling, Locking up YN.
Taglist: vante 🫶🏾
A/N: This is made to be scary! That is all. I honestly dont like mixing smut with yandere because i read yandere fics to be spooked not horny lol.
Jungkook at this point was flying down the highway, where could yn be at this late?
He was confused really. He told her, never go into his office. Why would she disobey him?
He remembers that the coffee shop she works at is open late so maybe she’s there.
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Yn was frightened the things she saw in that dark room where not normal to have.
“ You look so shocked, yn. I’m sorry you had to find out about that side of him. I should’ve told you sooner but I was scared he would hurt you or me,” Seokjin, her best friend since childhood, sat down her warm tea she ordered on his island.
“Does he know you are here?” Shaking her head, no, she sighed out of fright. “ I just can’t get the pictures out my head. Who were those people? Why was he hurting them? Why was he taking pictures of me… like that? I’m so scared, Jin.”
He tired comforting her but not knowing if that would work.
“ I really should’ve told you sooner, Yn.”
The only reason that Jin knows about it is because he’s seen Jungkook physically harm someone back when Jin used to work with him at the flower shop. It’s how Jungkook and Yn met each other 5 years ago.
Around that time, he wasn’t obsessed with anyone but Jin always would see the look he had in his eyes.
That darkness in his eyes, it was filled with brutal acts, the one thing that was the scariest was that he never killed them at first.
He would torture them, slowly, saying things like you made me harm you with your dumb ass acts.
He was pure evil and there was no saving him.
Jin thought maybe if he introduced someone so beautiful, peaceful, pure and quite literally a flower, he would stop these acts.
He did at first, but then they only got worst.
When yn would stop by the flower shop, Dropping them both off some coffee of some sort and leave back out. Costumers would simply smile at her and send a nice hello gesture her way.
Jungkook didn’t like that.
In fact, one older guy said hello to her as she was leaving, even held the door for her.
Later that day during closing, Jin saw Jungkook brutal beat that poor man to a bloody mess. He intervened and told Jungkook to leave him be he’s already not moving.
He was willing to kill a man simply for saying hello to yn.
“ Why didn’t you tell me?” Yn questioned looking at him. “ You weren’t going to believe me, Yn. You would’ve assumed I was jealous of the relationship and brushed it off.So I told myself, when she finds out for herself, I’ll tell everything I know about him” Jin sighed and sat back against the couch.
“Was he always like this?” Looking at him as she sipped on her tea, feeling a little relaxed.
“Since I met him? Yeah, he’s always been off. I thought he just needed someone to love and someone to love him. He grew up without his mom or his dad, he was back and forth from foster care and foster homes. Unfit child. That’s what his records say. I only know this because my father worked with him when he was younger when my dad used to work in the foster care facility. I’m sorry I even introduced you two. The worst decision of my life. He won’t hurt you though, he would rather hurt himself than hurt you.”
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Yn decided to go back to the apartment after some time. Jin promised her that Jungkook loves her way too much to hurt her she was safe for now, at least.
She unlocked the door seeing the lights still on and Bam peacefully back on the couch sleeping.
Sighing she grabbed her phone seeing the missed text messages and missed calls from Jungkook and her sister.
sister : yn where the hell are you?
Did you tell Kook you are with me?
He’s looking for you?
Are you at work?
Hello?
yn pls answer
She sighed again and called her sister back. “ What the fuck yn! Where have you been? Jungkook is worried sick! Did you guys have a fight or something?” “ Somewhat. I was with Jin but just to calm down. I’m back at home now. Did Jungkook call you or something?” Yn already knew he called her, I mean she did say she was with her. “ Yeah he did, it wasn’t long though. Get some sleep and call me tomorrow okay? I’ll come pick you up so we can hang out and talk all about it. Love you” her sister hung up and yn put her phone down and cuddled with Bam.
“ what do i do Bam? I have to go, I can’t stay with someone so dangerous.” She whispered petting his head.
As if on cue Jungkook came into the house and he smiled happily. “ There you are! I was worried baby~”
Smiling hard he took his jacket off and sat down on the other side of the couch, he tried touching her leg but she moved it.
Yn sat up and looked at him. “ Are you hiding something from me, Jeon?” She knows questioning him wasn’t right. But she needed him to say.
She needed to hear him say what exactly those photos were. She needs to hear it.
He tilted his head to the side, looking at Bam then the floor. “ Ah, I got a new tattoo and got a haircut-,” “ Jungkook, are you hiding something?” She repeated Scooting back.
“Why are you asking me-,” “ I saw the room Jungkook. I saw those… photos.”
He sighed and stood up, “ You went in my office?why-,” cutting him off again she shouted “ Why do you fucking care if I went in there or not? That’s not the problem! The problem is why do you have those photos Jungkook?”
At this point she started crying out of anger.
“It’s just art, Princess. I swear that’s all it is,” Jungkook was starting to panic on the inside. “That’s not fucking art! You have photos of you torturing people like it was that fucking Saw movie!” He sat back down and ran his hair through his hair.
“ okay. Okay” he tried to calm himself down ready to admit the truth. “ It is art, to me. It’s a hobby I have. I know I know it’s not a good one but I promise I don’t do it often.” He looked up at her moving a little closer, “ I’ve only did it once since we’ve been together, baby. Well, I’ve only killed once since we’ve been together.” Looking at her still he watched her tears drop down her face onto Bams head.
“ Who are those people, Jungkook?” She whispered feeling herself becoming unwell. “Baby” he started and yn just shook her head, “ Tell me, Jungkook, just please tell me.”
He didn’t want to. Why does she care about the people that has talked to her. People who have flirted with her, touched her, looked at her, even brushed passed in her in stores without saying sorry.
“ Those people are people who has looked at you the way only I can look at you, but baby they don’t matter. No no see only we matter, yeah? They deserved it.” He saw her stand up and he went to defense mode.
“ You hurt those strangers because of them simply glancing at me?”
Fear. He sees it in her eyes. He knows the look of fear. He never wanted to see it on her.
Jungkook started rapidly shaking his head. “No no, baby, no. Don’t look at like that. Don’t look at me like you are scared of me. Please I don’t want you to be scared of me, princess.”
“ the photos of me… why are you developing photos of me? Weird photos…”
“I want to remember you always baby that’s all. I won’t do it again if you don’t like it.”
Pondering. Yn knew that leaving would probably make him upset and start crying, possibly raging. She needed time though.
“ I think we should take a break,” “ No. absolutely not. you aren’t going.” He instantly answered.
“Just for tonight, Kook.” She tried to wipe her face from the tears but Jungkook grabbed her face shaking his head.
“ No baby, whatever I did to upset you I can fix it. Yeah we can fix it baby there is no need to leave. I won’t let you.”
“whatever you did? Jungkook you are hurting people, and that’s hurting me. I can’t stay here.” She took his hands off her face and grabbed her phone and purse heading to the door.
“ yn, if you fucking walk out that door, I promise I’ll kill Jin and Your sister. I’ll watch them fucking suffer if you leave me,” he walked up behind her grabbing her purse out her hand and throwing it on the couch.
“ You are gonna leave me and your child, Bam, Alone again?”
Without waiting on an answer he picked her up and began to take her to his office. Yn was trying hard to not go in there, she held onto the door frame, screaming and putting her weight down, but sadly jungkook won this fight with an over powering push which sent her stumbling into the office floor.
He looked at her and sighed. He closed the door and locked it from the outside.
“ Jungkook!” She kicked at the door and hit it a couple of times. “ Let me out, Jeon!” Screaming through the door still trying to open it, “ Fuck!” She let out a cry.
“ You disobeyed me and tired to leave to go to that punk bitch. You’ll stay in there until morning! Get some rest baby. Good night.”
Jungkook walked away from the door, the sounds of yn banging never lowering.
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To be continued…
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escapismqueen · 6 months ago
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Hey it's been a while since I've been on I saw that you recently made a new Jelly video I was about to watch it but seeing you upload it made me miss them. I still don't know if I'll watch season 3 sure I want to see the amazing love of the Jelly dating era but I know Jenny is going to ruin it like she did in the books they're going to character assassinate Jeremiah (even though he was the best part of the books not going to lie.) I hope she changes things and makes them endgame all we need is for them to stay together I need to see Belly fight for him more. Give me the Belly we saw in the finale where she was willing to leave Conrad there and go with Jeremiah. I don't need the toxic ship that the books had this is 2024 how people are still stanning the boring man Conrad I can never imagine he still hasn't been called out for his lies. Jeremiah didn't really have anyone on his side but Taylor I love her for that while Steven was a fake friend sure he wasn't that great in season 1 with him not wanting Belly to be with Jere but he's totally fine with Conrad after everything he's done?
Omg yes to all of this !!! Honestly I’ve been thinking about the way the show will end a lot lately and I just don’t see how making it a bonrad endgame would be a good thing. I’ve not read the books but I’ve listened to moments in the audio books here and there and the changes that were made from them to the show is so apparent and purposeful to me. Changes that make me go ‘why would Jenny change this unless she wanted to go for a different endgame this time’.
A lot of people say to me ‘yeah but in the books-‘ I don’t care. I love reading and I love books and clearly these books mean a lot to people but the show is not the books. The characters that we’ve seen on screen are not identical to the ones people read in the books. When you go in blind, not having read the books previously, you go in without a bias, which is important. The Conrad that we get in the show does not treat belly with the respect that she deserves. She even mentions at one point that he ‘gives and then takes away’ that’s toxic. The way he talks to her a lot of the time is honestly really rude, like calling her a baby and mocking her for knowing things about him. So much of his behaviour is a straight up red flag and so many Conrad stans tune a blind eye to it simply because they love book Conrad- which by the way, from what I’ve seen- WHY.
Jeremiah treats belly with respect. He’s there whenever she needs someone, he makes her happy and laugh and doesn’t make her question their relationship. She feels secure when she’s with Jere, when she’s with Conrad, she’s always on edge and she worried- it’s not healthy. Jere even put aside his own feelings because he loves both his brother and belly and at the end of the day wanted them to be happy, but belly chose jere. It would be beyond stupid now to have her go an change her mind AGAIN and get back with Conrad. And if one more person tells me what jere does in the third book, I’ll scream, because that is not show jere and making his character do that in the show would be the most ooc choice.
I’m sick of shows romanticising toxic behaviour. Just because belly fell in love with Conrad first, does not mean that she doesn’t love jere any less or that she will always love Conrad. People grow, people change, and she’s not a child anymore. Conrad is the guy you go through to learn a lesson, and grow from it and learn your worth. Jeremiah is the guy who makes you realise that you’re exactly who you need to be and that you’re lovable in whatever form you take. That’s what real love shows somebody.
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supersonicob · 5 months ago
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Soooo single yet again. Those couple of posts I made in the past about my so called boyfriend. The posts about how I felt so happy and I thought he was the one. Posting pics of the dinner he took me to. Only to end up breaking up today. I had to call it off because he showed me a side I did not appreciate. He turned out to be on the narcissistic spectrum. He has this huge problem with wanting to be right about everything! And if you disagree with him, he gets so mad he starts arguments then would ghost me until I came to him with the apology or find words that would squash the beef and to him it sounded like I was taking accountability for the argument/disagreement. One time he literally told me I wasn't allowed to have an additional input/thoughts/ideas on one topic we got into about what's the right thing to do if a someone with a gun comes to a school. Would you run away from the school when you think the coast is clear, or would you do what the school tells you to do and hide in the classroom and lock the door and turn out the light. I said I would run with my class if I saw the coast was clear. (I had two jobs that showed us tapes about safety if we were ever ambushed by a shooter. And it did say to run and then call for help.) But then I try to say "I see things from the schools prospective too, because what if something went wrong when your running with a classroom of kids....." until he cut me off and raised his voice at me and told me " No! You can't do that! You can't say you agree with me, but then try to side with the school.....etc etc" and we didn't speak for a day and a half because of that. To me that was a big red flag, this is coming from a guy who called his own friends stupid!!!!! So that told me that he enjoys vibrating on a SEVERELY LOW FREQUENCY. He prefers to hang out with people just the same because if he feels like he can be smarter than the people surrounding him in a room, then he feels superior. He watches certain shows he can learn from "like how planes and bombs are made" and shows about hospitals and surgery just so he can sound superior when he brings it up at a house party/get together. But the millisecond you try to simply add onto the conversation, to keep it going, he calls it "being argumentative"...🙄😑 so today I ended it completely with him. I can't be anyone's emotional punching bag, or for a male to make me feel like I'm I'm stupid, or crazy, or I'm not recalling pieces of information correctly. And when an argument does start then "it's me who always wants to be right all the time" this guy was literally draining me of all my positive energy. I have to protect my energy right?
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cakerybakery · 5 months ago
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Where to start, lol. I definitely think Eve’s feeling would be much deeper and more complex than just simply betrayal. I think that would be the strongest feeling or perhaps just the clearest feeling. How she would have felt was definitely too complex for me to really get into in the original post, she definitely would need a whole journey of self discovery and development to really sort and address everything.
I would think she felt guilty about her grief. There’s Adam, trying so hard to help her. She didn’t know he went to Lucifer and he would have told her it was from an angel. Not a full lie but definitely a deception. Adam would lie because he didn’t want Eve to stress about it being from Lucifer and bringing up the whole apple thing.
(In canon Adam doesn’t really seem too broken up about the apple. At best he hates sinners. He has like one line where he’s goes, you’re judging me? You’re the most hated being in the universe. Which just reads to me as, you live in a glass house, don’t try to throw stones at me for gaining weight. Although you could argue Lucifer line about Adam letting himself go since Eden could be interpreted as a dig at Adam’s morals. Cause Lucifer says this is what you’ve been up to since Eden, which is easily interpreted as, the exterminations are what you’re been doing since I saw you last? what happened to your morals? Which makes Adam’s line about Lucifer being the most hated being make more sense. But that’s a whole other discussion.)
There was never a guarantee Lucifer and Lilith would ever collect either so he would have just told himself that Eve didn’t need to worry about that right now, he’d tell her when she was better, but then it had been too long, too awkward, he’d tell her… one day.
Lucifer and Adam definitely made the deal without thinking about how it would affect them long term. They were both grieving and didn’t think about the practicality of it. Lucifer would definitely have sort of mentally put it in a box and deliberately not thought too hard about it. Until there was Adam, willing to fulfil his end of the deal but also not liking having to fulfil his end of the deal. Especially since it cost him his wife.
The deal Adam made to help her, without ever asking her about her feelings on it, was the same deal that ended his marriage. And he’s mad that she’s upset about something he did for her but understands, because she never asked him to make the deal that was all on him. So he’s angry, but knows it’s his own fault but he’s also sad because he loves her, it’s just all complex without any time or room to really breathe.
And it’s only now after it’s all said and done, as he’s going to fulfil his end of the deal that he finds out she never wanted him to make it, that she accepted the apple (because of course and she feels stupid for ignoring that red flag at the time) that would allow her to impregnate him out of guilt. Guilt that she made him feel like he had to do this.
Part of why they break up I think would be because they don’t get to work through all that. They dump the weight of their combined hidden emotions and leave it to fester without trying to sort through it together. It rots while Adam is in hell and Eve stops talking to him. After Eve sorts through herself and her feelings, they might stand a chance of turning that rot into something fertile to grow a friendship, but that’s a long way off.
Honestly I think Lilith is the only one to really think about the consequences. She’d be jealous, but trying to hide it, while her husband is trying to impregnate another person. Both that Adam will be able to carry a child while she can’t and that the man she loves is banging someone else. But she’s also been weighing this and thinking about it for thousands of years.
Lucifer’s stipulation was if Lilith wanted a child. Lucifer in his own way was trying to give her a present. He didn’t want to take Eve’s child, he honestly didn’t even want it to be Adam’s child, it was just at this point there was only one person out of the only four people (heaven wouldn’t be any help and was not being counted) that could bare children. And Adam was trying to switch that so the burden was on him so he could satisfy heaven’s demands without hurting Eve.
So Lilith was the best equipped to handle her emotions. But that doesn’t mean Lucifer didn’t pick up on her being jealous. They’ve been married for thousands of years. He knows when his wife is upset. She’d try to reassure him that her jealousy doesn’t mean much, it doesn’t because she knows it’s not cheating and that there’s a reason Adam is carrying the baby, and that she’d move past it eventually. It’s valid but she can see outside of that emotion enough to know it’s temporary and she just has to ride it out and not wallow in it. It sucks now, but she knows it won’t forever.
But Lucifer isn’t prepared because he’s spent all that time just ignoring the feelings and even when he’s with Adam he tries to ignore them and get the job done. But he also feels guilt for putting Adam through this, so he tries to make it pleasurable for Adam. Which just makes him feel guilty that he’s enjoying it. He’s proud of being able to give his partner a great time, so much that they can loose themselves in the moment, it’s something he gets off to and he gets pleasure from. But then the moment ends and he’s crushed by the weight of his own guilt.
So when Charlie is born, Lilith is ready and okay because she has a precious child and she is thankful to Adam, that Adam is entrusting Charlie to her, that she gets to raise a daughter instead of burying one. But Lucifer doesn’t want to talk about Adam and just wants to pretend Lilith is the birth mother to deal with his guilt. And Lilith does that to try and make him happy even though she doesn’t feel it’s right for Charlie. Then he pulls away. It’s slow but the more Charlie grows the more he pulls away. He’s happy she looks so much like him so he can pretend to see Lilith in her looks but in moments as she grows, she reminds him of Adam. Kind of forgetting that Lilith shares those traits with Adam. Like being stubborn even in the face of total failure, an unwavering sense that she’s right, even if everything points to her being wrong, stuff like that. He sees Adam in her because he still feels so much unresolved guilt. Which pushes Charlie away.
He gets so wrapped up in his own feelings and trapped by his depression that Lilith can’t stand it anymore and leaves. She’s tried everything she can think of but he doesn’t want help, he thinks he deserves to feel like shit because he did a shitty thing. But she thinks he did a wonderful thing for her, even if she was upset about it in the beginning. She wouldn’t trade Charlie for anything. She’d have loved to be her biological mother but that’s barely a thought because she’s Charlie’s mother no matter what.
So she leaves. She lets him hit rock bottom to hope he comes to his senses because there’s nothing else she can do. She doesn’t want to leave Charlie but everyday and every moment she wants to tell Charlie the truth and she promised not to. Besides, she’s in heaven to talk to the only person she can about this and the cell reception between the two realms is shit.
Adam is only hearing Lilith’s version which isn’t the whole truth because Lucifer wouldn’t tell her how he was feeling. She knows Lucifer is depressed and feels guilt about Adam but doesn’t know how much or his exact feelings, like what part of Adam’s involvement does he feel guilty about? Lucifer would never tell her he enjoyed the sex, or that he felt like a monster for effectively forcing Adam to do this. So she likely just thinks he feels guilty about “cheating”, which he also does feel guilt about, just not the other stuff. And she knows he hates the sinners for being sinners and throwing away their chance at heaven. That them being crappy people is all he sees and it’s his fault. Adam can’t do anything about Lucifer feeling sad and guilty, but he can help by getting rid of sinners. No sinners, no worries. Then Lucifer can focus on Lilith and Charlie and at least one good thing could come out of this shit show. There could be one fucking happy family again.
But it doesn’t help. In fact Charlie is making it worse. Why can’t she see that he’s trying to help? The sinners can’t be redeemed, stop thinking about them and think about your family and yourself. So he’s taking his rage at his marriage falling apart, his failed plan to at least fix Lucifer and Lilith’s marriage out on Charlie. Because things were perfect before she was born. He’s transferring his own feelings and blame onto her.
Only by addressing those feelings is he able to realize what he’s doing and start trying to make amends.
Lucifer was doing the same thing in away. Only he was so busy blaming himself and punishing himself he didn’t see how it was effecting others around him until it was too late. Lilith was gone, Charlie never talked to him, he was isolated and alone in a prison of his own making. Punishing himself isn’t healing. So he has to work on that.
Eve by the time all that is happening is still sorting herself out. She’s in a better place but still not ready to really talk through things with the others yet.
Lilith is just happy she can finally breathe easy around Charlie. She’s really only interested in repairing the damage disappearing for several years without a word does, at least Charlie was an adult and not a child and it’s pretty easy to see her mom’s point of view and reasoning. That doesn’t make it okay, but she’s able to understand that it wasn’t her fault her mom left.
Charlie of course has her own feelings. Why did Adam give me up so easily? Why did my dad push me away? Why did my mom leave? Did mom leave because I’m not hers? Does Adam hate me because he was forced? Because he could never love me? Does dad not love me? Did I do something wrong that three people didn’t want to be my parent?
Of course the issue was never her. She was a by product not the cause. But it’s only by everyone else opening up that she can be assured that they each do love her in their own ways. Even Adam because he did carry her for nine months. Of course he has his own sort of love for her even if he has no parental bond. He feels like shit for taking his issues out on her. He doesn’t actually hate her, just the situation.
It’s not exactly the same as his other children because he knew he was giving her up and she was to be Lilith’s but he was actually happy to be giving Lilith and Lucifer the same gift he got to enjoy. Which of course just further complicated his feelings.
I think getting to be around her, and everything being out in the open. Especially as he starts dating Lucifer, he does develop more of a love for Charlie and gets to create a parental bond with her.
In the end Charlie gets three parents. Eventually Eve and Adam find friendship, maybe not best friends and they’re not as close as they once were but they still care deeply for each other, just not romantically anymore. The same with Lilith and Lucifer.
I don’t think either Adam or Eve blame Lucifer for Cain and Abel. The apple itself didn’t cause evil, rather the disobeying and giving/eating the apple allowed it to exist. There’s plenty of blame to go around on that. Even Adam would have to admit eventually that if he’d been less of a jerk and stubborn then the apple incident never would have happened. But it was over shadowed by their later shit.
Cain was jealous of Abel and Eve and Adam were shit about talking about their feelings so if anything they just failed to teach Cain how to properly express his feelings. Something they tried to do with their other kids but never managed to do for themselves.
I think that’s everything. It would definitely be a fun one to write out fully one day but, oh boy that’s a project. Possibly the most complex to date and would take a lot of work
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Can you imagine if Eve was so devastated after Cain and Abel that despite knowing they were supposed to usher in humanity, Eve couldn’t bear the idea of being pregnant again.
That Adam makes the first deal with the devil because heaven is just like, tell her to suck it up and get on with it, but he loves Eve and can’t hurt her by forcing himself on her.
So he asked Lucifer to give him a way to switch roles with Eve. He’ll bear her children.
Lucifer understands their grief. Lilith recently suffered their first miscarriage. He can’t undo heaven curse upon her, this child wasn’t even planned, but she had been excited. They hadn’t realized when heaven cursed her to never have children it would curse her to miscarry if she became pregnant.
So he makes the deal, Adam will bear all of Eve’s children… plus one.
He tells Adam of the curse that perhaps one day Lilith would want a child and should she, Adam will bear it for her with Lucifer as the sire.
Adam agrees. Heaven is upset at this turn of events but turns a blind eye, they don’t know what exactly Adam’s deal was but he ends up in heaven so it must not be so bad.
It’s been so long, he’s died and even started the exterminations, but one day Lucifer reaches out.
A deal overrides even death. He puts in for some vacation and goes down to hell. Things are tense and it takes a couple months of trying, but it works. He’s away for nearly a year before Charlie is born.
He doesn’t really think about Charlie as being his blood. Adam feels more like a surrogate. Especially since Lilith takes to her so quickly, is so grateful for Adam’s help.
Things go south for him and Eve though. Eve feels betrayed. She hadn’t known about his end of the deal until then.
Things get worse after Lilith and Lucifer split. She confides in Adam and Adam is pissed off on her behalf. Lucifer didn’t take to Charlie the same way Lilith did. He loved her but spent more and more time in a depressive state and wasn’t able to spend much time with her. Lilith couldn’t handle it anymore as she was also being pushed away.
If Lucifer was depressed from seeing the evils of humanity, maybe seeing more sinners killed would cheer him up? They up the exterminations.
This really inspires Charlie to put a stop to the killings.
Vaggie doubts their cause, especially since they’re no longer targeting the worst of humanity but everyone and falls. The hotel is formed. An angel is killed and now Adam is angry and scared for heaven if they can be killed what’ll stop hell from turning on them?
They fight, Adam tries to actually kill Charlie because her birth is where everything went wrong. Maybe if he gets rid of her, things will go back to the way they were.
Lucifer isn’t teasing Adam about fucking Eve, he’s teasing Adam about the deal, that Eve liked fucking Adam more than she’d liked being fucked by Adam.
That he put on weight after the pregnancies. Just generally being an asshole about their deal.
Lucifer blames Adam for the failure of his marriage. Lucifer felt like he was cheating. That Charlie was an affair child. It sent him spiralling and he never told Lilith how he felt.
Adam revives as a sinner and things are difficult. There’s just arguments and hostility until one day Adam, pissed off that Charlie is acting so calm and trying to see the best in everything while he’s raging and Lucifer and him are at each other’s throats again goes, “I can’t believe I gave birth to you! You don’t know anything that’s going on! You can’t fix everything with hope and happiness, puppies and rainbows. Back off!”
And he doesn’t even realize what he’s said until he sees her shocked face. Hears the silence. His brain catches up to his mouth and now Lucifer is really mad.
But Charlie wants to know what Adam meant. Lucifer tries to lie but Adam can’t look into eyes so much like Lucifer’s on that day thousands of years ago. How they looked with tears as Lucifer told him about the miscarriage. How they both cried over the lost children.
He breaks. He tells Charlie everything.
Even the stuff Lilith told him. Charlie confronts Lucifer and he has to admit why he was distant.
Only with everything out in the open at last do things start getting better.
Adam and Lucifer can actually talk about what happened instead of dancing around it and blame each other for feelings the other didn’t know about.
The sex was good but they both felt awful about having it. And guilty for enjoying it.
Charlie wants to know why she was so easy for both of them to give up. Adam assured her that it was because he was doing for Lilith and that Lilith loved her, he didn’t try to get attached because he was doing it for someone else. For Lucifer it was the guilt and he felt horrible for feeling guilty and for not being able to be around as much as he wanted. He’s sorry for not being there for her, for taking his feeling out on her. She does eventually forgive them and enjoys getting to know more about them when they’re not trying to hide the truth from her.
Things aren’t still right with Eve or Lilith but there’s not much they can do. Eve doesn’t want to forgive yet, nor see Adam to let him try. Eve has her own journey to have to come to terms about everything.
Lilith isn’t going back to Lucifer, she’s still hurt he pushed her away as well, but now that things are out in the open though she’s finally able talk to Charlie like how she always wanted, openly without fear of revealing the truth. Their relationship gets better.
There’s a shift now. Adam and Lucifer are enjoying each other’s company. Then one day they’re sharing stories and laughing but Lucifer is looking at Adam differently, sweetly, the mood is shifting. Adam’s close enough they could kiss, he leans in a little closer, Lucifer does too. Now sex is just good without the guilt. Eternity is a long time, spending it with each other sounds like a fine way to enjoy it.
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