#and forgiveness and second chances
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This is such a random train of thought but I came across a comment on a fanfic saying something along the lines of "people don't usually change" / "forgiving them is unrealistic" / "your character is pathetic for giving in" and while valid in some, if not, most cases, thinking that it applies to everyone and everything all the time seems like such an unhealthy mindset to have. In my opinion at least.
Don't get me wrong, I hate it when forgiveness is served on a silver platter where the person apologizes once and then all is suddenly forgiven. But if the person provided an explanation all while not passing it as an excuse, took full accountability of their actions, truly apologized and showed regrets, and then took the time to better themselves, worked hard to improve and then continuously show that they're a much better person now and had grown after years. Is giving a second chance really that criminal? Especially when forgiveness isn't even given right after that and it's still a slow and steady journey of building that trust where everyone's starting on a clean slate rather than jumping right where they left off.
I don't know, maybe this is just me always trying see the good in people, but if you really don't think that a person has the ability to grow and learn from their mistakes, (which everyone will make often) all while constantly showing and proving that they have grown and learn, then that's a bleak way to see things. It's just a sad way of thinking that just because a person made a mistake (obviously depending on the mistake), they're forever branded as a bad person.
It's like, needing people to be perfect and wise right off that bat, putting them on a pedestal where you think they won't ever make mistakes and once they inevitably do, suddenly they're never going to change and learn from it and they're always going to be a horrible person. And that just seems so…toxic.
Obviously, things are much, MUCH more complicated in reality. Some people never do change, some don't deserve forgiveness at all, and some are genuinely just horrible and vile human beings who deserve to rot. But thinking that everyone is like that?
Just, not everything is so black and white you know? Sometimes things are just various shades of grays. Humans are messy and complicated as fuck but that doesn't mean it's a bad thing.
#and this is coming from a person with trust issues#sorry but it was such a nasty comment#when the author did such a good job a showing the journey of healing#and forgiveness and second chances#and mind you there where YEARS in between#it really went lovers - exes - co workers - friends - best friends - lovers#and someone straight up said it was an awful ending#bc they found forgiveness and healed in the end#like i get wanting everyone to be miserable and get that revenge moment#but what's so wrong about ending something softly where everyone's happy#while rightfully earned and deserved#anyways i do need sleep so idk what this is lakslsks#ramblings
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Hope. The holdest to hold onto
This is the last one I swear ajdbsj love me some symbolisms mmmm good stuff
#alan becker#animator vs animation#ava#ava the second coming#ava orange#what does Hope stands for in this case?#so many meanings. so many things that made it as it is. so many ways leads to it.#is it to forgive? second chances? or is it to be merciless to those that destroys it? or to grant mercy from their pain by destroy them?#playing a god but you are not one
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requested by: @skatingthinandice: 7.02 + 7.08 "don't deserve a second chance" parallel
#911#911 abc#911edit#requestsedit#@skatingthinandice#7.02#7x08#athena grant#bobby nash#bathena#bathenaedit#amir casey#gifs#mine#thank you for the request🫶🏽#hope you like it😊#i just 😭😭😭😭#he really believes he doesnt deserve a second chance#BUT YOU SO DO BOBBY NASH YOU DESERVE EVERYTHING GOOD#also im really loving the dynamic between Bobby and Amir#this isnt just a redemption for Bobby but also Amir as well#in the way that Amir forgives himself for surviving the fire and losing his wife#but also that it doesn’t necessarily mean he has to forgive Bobby and thats ok too#sometimes things arent always black and white and its much more complicated esp when it comes to forgiveness and second chances
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And some days, I just wish you wouldn't look at me at all.
#ffxiv#sketch#wol#meteor survivor#zenos yae galvus#adventurer zenos#oh no#its the consequences of his actions#everything is fine until the only man on the star you care about looks at you with the same contempt your father did#(Meteor's not doing it intentionally- its a reflex after he comes back for quite a bit)#and zenos is getting bodied because its been a while since... you know... him being able to really feel anything at all#and no- its not him regretting anything that had to do with varis- just him regretting the thought meteor could look at him like that#little does Meteor know he's emotionally bodying the man he's trying to be cordial with#its a little okay because in how I write adventurer zenos this serves as one of his main wake-up calls to make some changes#and realizing both the mistakes he's made with meteor and that meteor hating him in any way is actually -not at all- what he wants#but not okay on the end that every time meteor does this he has to watch zenos actively dissociate right in front of him#until zenos just kinda autopilots and walks away#the second time (or perhaps third) in the last 11 years that zenos has felt regret to any major capacity-#on meteor's end I just enjoy seeing the progression of the WoL through subtext#and why meteor is willing to even entertain the idea despite how much he hates zenos- his decisions and the path he's walked#is the realization that there is high chance that he could actually be a direct catalyst for zenos' growth#and the realization the wol has that they were the only one zenos has ever genuinely reached out to#besides- i just like the idea of having your equal other half fighting back to back with you- or being able to handle threats you cant#and i find their dynamic neat- of meteor not forgiving zenos but giving him his last chance- and growing to enjoy being around him#and zenos being able to work on moving past being the weapon or the monster- finding the connections he's longed for#and giving himself purpose to finally truly just live- for him to learn to experience and have the freedom to find what he enjoys#(and curiously him having estinien's brand of accidently helping people even in StB gives me ideas...)#but enough tag ranting- ill get to zenos' actual adventuring in another post lol
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sometimes for the worse, sometimes for the better
#ted lasso#ted lasso fanart#nathan shelley#anon this ones for u. i was doodlin this and decided to color it n all and was like. yeah i should probably post this as a separate poast#theres so soso many things to say about nate and his whole arc in s3 but in the end. why are you people so mean to him#his arc couldve been better im with yall on that tbh but why are you people still so mean!!! if ted could forgive him and give him a second#chance why cant you!!!!!!#biting u all. fr#pn.art#snif. i just love nate and it annoys me that i feel like i cant share it because so many of you are so needlessly mean to him
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Hate That I Loved You
Now complete on AO3!
Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3 | Part 4 ↓ | Part 5 | Part 6
Despite Eddie's wishes, everything just keeps on moving.
In a way, it's a little comforting to know that no matter how badly Eddie fucks up, life keeps going. It kept going when Lou almost broke him, it kept going every time he dumped someone or got dumped. It kept going when his mom passed away in the middle of the European leg of their tour.
It kept moving when he and Steve stopped walking in the same direction.
Eddie sits in his dressing room, waiting for his make-up to be finished. He barely slept during the night, a mix of anxiousness and fear of whatever was to come.
Eddie wants to talk to Steve and clear the air and explain that what he had seen the night before wasn't what he thought it was. There's nothing between him and Lou. Not anymore.
It's not like he thinks Steve still wants something with him. He's not delusional or anything, knows Steve is doing this only as a favor to him and nothing more. But he's done hurting Steve, needs to put an end to all this once and for all.
There was no time in between the band finishing up their part of the music video at around 3am and the super early call time they all had for the last day of shooting. When he got there, Eddie got dragged to wardrobe and make-up and had no time to even look for Steve.
He hoped Steve hadn't bailed because of whatever it was that he thought he saw last night, but if he had, they would most likely know by now. Probably.
But to be completely honest, Eddie doesn't even realize he's holding his breath in anticipation until the moment he lay eyes on Steve again.
Eddie gets into the studio all ready for the shooting. His clothes are a perfect match to what he used to wear back then, right before Corroded Coffin made it big. A sleeveless CC shirt with ripped skinny jeans. Always black. Chains and rings and a leather jacket on top of everything.
It feels even weirder once he gets a good look at it. The studio had been completely modified and now he can see a perfect representation of his uncle’s old trailer. The place where he made most of the music for their first album.
The place where he fell in love with Steve.
But now that Eddie is really looking at it, he can see only half of the trailer. The other half is actually the recording studio where they had made their first album.
Half and half, torn in the middle, just like Eddie had been back then. Unable to choose between life with Steve and the band.
Whenever Eddie was with Steve, his brain was thinking music and lyrics and chords. He itched to put his hands on a guitar, to take notes, to write.
Then, when he was with the band, he kept thinking about Steve, missing him, missing his touch and his kiss and-
“Hey,” Steve’s voice sounds unsure, like he had tried getting Eddie’s attention more than once.
“Hi. Sorry, it’s… Weird being back here,” Eddie says and Steve gives him a soft smile which… Don't seem like a bad thing.
“Yeah. Brings back a lot of memories,” Steve agrees and motions forward as if he’s going to touch Eddie’s arm.
But then the director is calling their names and asking if they are ready and Steve drops his hand, turning away from him.
“Can we, uh, talk? After? I really wanted to explain what you saw yesterday.”
Steve shakes his head. “You don’t owe me an explanation, Eddie.”
“No, I know. But I want to. If you… Please?”
Steve looks over at him and there’s this unreadable thing about his expression that tugs at Eddie’s heart. He needs him to say yes. Needs him to listen to him. He needs to still have a chance.
“Yeah, ok,” Steve says finally and Eddie can barely react before they are being directed to their places for the shoot.
They have both the places that tore Eddie apart, and they are separated by a thick glass. Steve is standing on one side, a symbol of Eddie’s past life, the one he left behind when he started to pursue a life in music.
The other is all his dreams coming true. Everything that he ever wanted becoming real. Back then, Eddie thought Steve didn’t fit in it. Steve didn’t feel he fit in. He never made Eddie choose, but soon it became clear Eddie wouldn’t be able to balance the two things at the same time for long.
He’d be away too much. And Steve needed him near. Wanted him there and Eddie wasn’t there. They fought, screamed at each other out of frustration and heartbreak.
Eddie wanted to stay and he knew he needed to leave, but he only found courage to do it when Steve told him he didn’t see a future for them, that Eddie should put his chips on something more certain.
He realized that day he would never be enough for Steve. He was splitting himself in half for him, trying to make everyone happy, and even then he was failing. Couldn't get things right.
The day he walked away, Eddie felt like his heart was going to give in. And he feels that way again as he looks into Steve’s eyes and sings how he hates that he loved him.
There's this glass in between them and Eddie can't get through. No matter how loud he sings, no matter how much he tries, he can't have it all. He starts to wonder how much different his life would be if he had bet on his relationship with Steve.
Wonders if he would've been happy with any other job. Maybe he would have become a music teacher somewhere. Have a white picket fence house with three cats and Steve. Maybe that would've been enough for him.
Or maybe he'd resent Steve, like he always said he would. Every time Eddie missed something related to the band because Steve, he said that. Like Eddie couldn't make his own decisions.
He knocks on the glass as Steve walks around the trailer with his back to Eddie. He wants to reach him, but he can't, and suddenly there's this suffocating need to tell him everything. To tell Steve how he feels.
It's not past tense. His feelings for Steve never went anywhere, always there, always alive. He needs him to know. Even if Steve doesn't feel the same anymore, he's sure Steve has moved on from their thing a long time ago. He just needs him to know.
Maybe back then it wasn't time for him and Steve, but maybe now it can be.
#hate that i loved you#steddie#steddie fanfic#steve harrington#eddie munson#fanfic#stranger things#rockstar AU#second chance romance#I wrote this in one sitting and never looked back#forgive me if it's awful#next part will be better I promise
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Sometimes, forgiveness is more for yourself than the other person. It is needed to move on and move forward, whether that person is involved in your life after that or not.
Joe and Ming choosing to forgive Tong and Ming’s father does not negate what they did or what they may do in the future. They chose to forgive them for themselves. They need to move on and they know the best way to go that is to simply forgive them.
The story of Ming and Joe was always meant to be about forgiveness and second chances. Joe forgave Ming for what he did. This time both Ming and Joe are giving it to Tong and Ming’s father in order to give them what Joe gave Ming, an opportunity to do better. Will it work? Who knows. They might change for the better, they might not. Joe and Ming are willing to give everyone the chance to find out.
Tong still deserved to get pushed in the pool though. I wish someone had.
#my stand in#my stand in the series#mingjoe#joeming#tong msi#ming’s dad#it wouldn’t have made any sense for this to not be the choice they made#not when the entire fucking show is about forgiveness and second chance#not just mings#there are lots of times when i don’t agree with a child forgiving their parents in bls#this is not one of them#cap watches my stand in#cap speaks
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had a breakdown and admitted to my parents that i've been struggling with delusions for years and in the shock of the century they were supportive and glad i told them. they don't fully understand how it works or recognize their role in encouraging my paranoia and life ruining anxiety and shame to the point of disconnecting from reality, but they promised to support me and listen if i need to talk, and they've started to be way more honest and open and respectful with me this year and admit that they didn't raise me as well as they could have so i decided i would risk it, and it turned out okay :')
#🐉#i cant forgive or forget the abuse but. im willing to give them a second chance to do right by me.
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i have this headcanon that the doctor didn’t even try to find melody, because he knew finding her meant sacrificing river. sort of like the old amy/young amy problem in “the girl who waited”, but this time he chose the older version
for a better headcanon i like to believe he asked river what she wanted, and she told him not to find her. because at least then it’s her choice
#doctor who#doctorriver#river song#eleventh doctor#elevenriver#hope this is a safe space lmao#but the guilt in his eyes when he’s listening to amy’s voicemail……#i think he spent a long time trying to decide what to do#because he knew amy and rory would choose melody#and it’s really not his decision to make. it’s amy and rory’s and RIVER’S#i mean it is his decision cause he’s the guy with a space/time machine but really it should be up to river#hence my second headcanon about it being rivers choice#but either way that choice meant that river would have a horrific childhood and amyrory lost their baby/the chance to raise her#so he lies to amyrory and tells them he’s looking for melody#because they can forgive him for failing to find her and for being the reason she was taken in the first place#but he’s not sure they’d forgive him for having a chance to save melody and choosing not to take it#and he can’t stand the thought of losing them#he can’t stand the thought of them hating him#so he lies#rule number 1 😔
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Trigger warning for mention of rape
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#forgiveness#second chances#tumblr polls#poll#polls#tumblr poll#incognito polls#random polls#poll time#yes or no#yes or no poll#yes or no polls#survivor#sa survivor
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Arys Oakheart was courteous, and would talk to her cordially. Once he even objected when Joffrey commanded him to hit her. He did hit her in the end, but not hard as Ser Meryn or Ser Boros might have, and at least he had argued.
Sansa I - ACOK
It still shamed Ser Arys to remember all the times he'd struck that poor Stark girl at the boy's command. When Tyrion had chosen him to go with Myrcella to Dorne, he lit a candle to the Warrior in thanks.
The Soiled Knight - AFFC
#Arys strikes me as a drunk cryer#text says Lady Sansa I am so sorry for hitting you I never should have done it I had to obey the king#I am the most worthless knight the gods ever made I should have smuggled you to Dorne the second I got the chance#my actions were unacceptable I am not worthy of being in your vicinity I am soiled as a knight and as a man by what I did to you#please forgive me#three full tags and some for this rambler#this is an old piece I hadn't posted it because I wasn't 100% happy with it#but fuck it I haven't posted art in a while and my next piece is far from done#Sansa Stark#Arys Oakheart#valyrianscrolls#asoiaf#a song of ice and fire#asoiaf fanart#my art
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Me, when I first played Death of The Outsider when it came out: love the game but I don't like either ending
Me now, literally crying as Daud fades into the void and the Outside is set free: I was a fool! This is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen
#when daud said farewell... and then when Billie talked about having second chances of being better and forgiving and... and...#I'm not kidding I cried for real lol#I got emotional since the moment I heard daud's last recording but the non-lethal ending finished the job#(yes I played doto right after dh2 because it's been a while and my chronic pain has been killing me this week so I figured I deserved it)#(so yeah I spent my weekend on ibuprofen and playing lol don't judge me)#death of the outsider#dishonored#dishonored 2#billie lurk#the outsider#daud#I love them all so much....
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Ceroba ramblings (+ Staroba)
Now listen: Ceroba lied about stuff, but never being with anyone else after Chujin passed? She's too stubborn and too emotional to lie about that + she clearly still cares about him (probably always will and won't remarry or have any more kids with anyone else; she just feels to me like the kind of character who wouldn't lie about how much her family will always mean to her). It wasn't a perfect marriage (he kept really important stuff from her for waaay too long and she let him "work himself to death") but the love was there. Just look at how she talks about Chujin (it pains my heart Star doesn't get this kind of attention but then again, Ceroba shouldn't be judged for finding something special in Chujin and not him):
There are TONS more:
Starlo's physically weaker but emotionally stronger. Ceroba's physically stronger but emotionally weaker. These differences sometimes work really well but other times personalities and viewpoints clash (like with staroba imo, already discussed)
Star's the type of person to quickly bounce back no matter what happens or at least never lose hope/optimism (he's still able to smile even after Clover's passing - although that might have to do with how he copes, but still, he's strong enough to at least pretend to be strong).
Ceroba needs Starlo as a friend because she's emotionally weak. That's why she messed up so badly with Kanako and lied to everybody and manipulated Clover. She did horrible things but the deeper meaning behind them doesn't convince me she's a bad person.
"The end justifies the means" is the motto Ceroba lived by before she realized the error of her ways.
... true, Ceroba injected her daughter, but to anyone who might say she didn't care about her (I'll discuss all this in more detail soon):
#uty#undertale yellow#uty ceroba#ceroba uty#ceroba ketsukane#starlo uty#uty starlo#uty chujin#chujin uty#chujin ketsukane#anti staroba#uty spoilers#ceroba is very flawed#but deserves a second chance just like everyone#i don't get the ceroba hate#she's SUPPOSED to be hard to forgive so clover's sacrifice would hit even harder#because if clover can forgive her terrible actions#and treat her as someone who should get the opportunity to improve in the future despite everything#... then that's the definition of a true hero
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Hi, I love your blog, and please I would love to see you talk more about Walburga, I always found her a very interesting character, but there's almost nothing about her
hi!! thank you!! 💞
i love walburga so much, i think she’s so interesting. i think people forget that she was a woman in the 70s, and a girl in the 60s. to be clear, i don’t think she’s a redeemable character, especially not as an adult, but i do still think she’s a victim. <- two things can be true and everything isn’t as simple as black and white.
she’s painted as the main villain of the noble and most ancient house of black, but people forget she’s a woman. in the seventies!!! realistically, walburga held no power what so ever, was married off to orion against her will, and under orions control. she gave orion sons and an heir and did her duties as a wife. she’s a victim turned abuser. <- she simply didn’t break the cycle of abuse, tale old as time, etc. she’s been powerless her entire life, so she takes it out on her children.
me and kara talked about walburga a bit when we started talking about the bellareg marriage, and like, in the grand scheme of things, walburga isn’t really anything. she’s such a small pawn in such a large game, a game ruled by powerful pureblood men. she was born a daughter, something to be dealt with and bartered with, and ends up at the hands of a husband like her father. <- i wrote a bit about this in my bellareg oneshot. me and kara said that we think bellatrix grew up idolizing walburga, because despite being small in the grand scheme of things, she can appear so scary and violent. but as bellatrix gets older she loses more and more respect for walburga. she realises that she really is just a submissive and obedient wife, on a tight leash held by her husband. walburga doesn’t have ambitions that stray outiside being a wife and producing an heir. like, at the end of the day, walburga really is just a wife and a mother.
walburga’s abuse is allowerd because orion is the one to allow it. he’s the puppet master, the only one with an actual say-so in his family and with his sons. i’ve said it before when i’ve talked about how walburga is treated like the Main Villain, but a silent man (of the house) will always scare me more than a wife ’acting out’. orion is a man, and it’s bonkers to me that people don’t recognize that he’s the main villain and main abuser in the black household. he’s literally a massively powerful pureblood man in the seventies and people want to act like he’s somehow scared of walburga ??? (<- a take ive seen multiple times lmao). like genuinely, WHAT is walburga going to do to him. she’s powerless in her own marriage. even a disowned sirius is more powerful than she’ll ever be. even regulus, the spare, is more powerful than she’ll ever be. because they’re men.
to sirius, she’s a monster. he’s simply not able to humanize her (to me), and nor should he have to. she quite genuinely is his abuser and his own devil, and i don’t think he necessarily recognizes that the main villain of his upbringing is his father. <- not that he doesn’t hate his father too and thinks of him as his abuser. but to me, walburga is his actual devil. his monster under the bed, more frequent im his nightmares than his father. and like, yeah. that’s so understandable, and i don’t think that’s like the wrong opinion of him to have lmao. it’s never up to the abused to forgive and/or understand his abuser. like i said at the very top, walburga is irredeemable. when she becomes an adult the abuse becomes a choice, and she didn’t break the cycle. <- i wrote a bit about this, and how shocked sirius is to see walburga as a person with feelings, in my grief microfic.
reg, however, is able to humanize his mother. me and kara talked briefly about the spare & wife parallells and how that’s why he’s able to see her as a person. laurie @/itsjaywalkers reblogged a post a million years ago that said something like ’i wish they would invent a mother who wants to be saved’ <- and that’s how regulus sees his mother, i think. regulus knows what it’s like to be powerless, to be a shadow, to be less. but his mother doesn’t want to be saved, and so regulus doesn’t want to be saved. i’ve always thought that sirius is more like orion and regulus is more like walburga. <- and that’s also why walburga loves sirius more, and why she can’t stand regulus. it’s also part of a lot of conflict between the black brothers, the fact that sirius can’t humanize walburga and regulus can’t help but humanize her.
anyway! yeah, walburga is irredeemable & and abuser but at the same time she’s also a victim. people can be, and often are, both. it doesn’t mean she should be forgiven. i’ve talked lots here on quillkiller dot tumblr dot com how much it infuriates me when abusers are painted as evil heartless monsters that simply can’t help it because its ’in their nature’ or because they were ’born evil’ <- that’s simply just not how people and/or abuse works. abusers are people who chose to do that to you, who have feelings and lives and relationships and a past. it’s never as simple as black or white ! there’s nuance everywhere, babey
#anyway i think lesbianism could’ve saved walburga#<- not to the point of forgiveness & she doesn’t deserve a second chance#but i think she should leave her husband and her kids and marry a woman and become a matriarch / woman of the house 🤍#it’s too late to make things right obviously so i think she should just start over…..#she’s the reason i put ’i believe in lesbianism as salvation’ in my pinned post#it’s like that woman in the film ’the hours’ who leaves her son & husband without so much as a word to go be a lesbian somewhere else#because she couldnt make things right ! but she could start over !#<- maybe not the right thing to do but maybe the Only Thing To Do :~)#i will always support womens wrongs…🤍#walburga#asks
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Part of why I hate this fandom's take on Autobots vs Decepticons is ppl (mainly 'con fans honestly) who can't have any nuance of the situation whatsoever and love to write plots like "oh the humans are racist and abusive towards Cybertronians so this is how Megatron is right" no actually I don't think colonialism/imperialism and racism are justified so long as you can point the finger and say "they were the aggressors first" or "their hands are no cleaner than ours bc their society sucks too" sorry. Please come up with better sociopolitical narratives in your war story.
#squiggposting#i'm too tired to like actually care about this any more#and ppl's fandom takes don't necessarily represent their IRL views#but i'm just like. oh so i see that you want to write mature stories with politics and dealing with bigotry. that's cool!#now do it in a way that actually refutes bigotry and makes some sort of attempt at resolution#bc 'oh humans are just as bad and evil so it's fine if we colonize them' isn't the pro-con take ppl think it is lkdsfjlsdkfs#honestly this is what john barber got right in his story even tho the politics in his became overbearing#at least he's like the one dude who rightfullly pointed out 'uhhh organics have history with cybertronians that makes them very justified#'in not trusting them'#but my mistake is expecting the average 'con fan to disengage from the 'revolution' part to talk about the racism and imperialism lmao#if ppl weren't cowards they would be able to write characters as problematic and bigots and imperialists#but still show their humanity and point out how the cycle of retribution needs to end at some point#and how killing everyone who ever did anything bad (esp for a race as long lived as theirs) isnt a sustainable model of society#that's my PROBLEM man like stop being COWARDS acknowledge that your heroes can be shitty ppl#instead of framing things as good guys vs bad guys and then framing absolution as being only for the good guys#what if good and bad didn't exist and we were all shitty in some way and none of us inherently deserve forgiveness. what then#what if you wrote a story where you had to deal with the reality of rehabilitating ppl who have genuinely done horrible things#what if you wanted to rehabilitate society but realized the majority of ppl in it are monsters. what then?#do you only extend forgiveness and peace to the ppl who got thru with no moral compromises?#do you want to kick the majority/almost all of your race to the curb and give them no mercy/second chances?#what if ppl wrote stories where sociopolitical issues had no good/bad guys and no easy solutions#what if ppl had the courage and ethical fortitude to say 'everyone here sucks actually'#anyways sorry for the rant
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I shouldn't be the only one who thinks orv and gintama are alike...
#the 4th wall break? huh u get it? get it? nvm that was bad joke#i mean narrative wise they are different. gintoki is moving on from the war but kdj is willing to start a war for his own gains but...#they are doing it for everyone they love they are doing it for the family they have found. even at times when gintoki is#dragged back into hell because his past haunts him he's always looking forward to protect whathe still cherishes after taking 1000s of live#and kdj will forgive a monster who mercilessly kills to give them a second chance because sometimes something simple as sympathy and love#is easily forgotten in the battlefield. he'll protect outcasts and is willing to give them a purpose because for no greater motive other#than to make a home...call people who feel like home.#gin and kdj ARE character foils but the foil is crumpled up and thrown back. only when you open it up you'll know that every crease#is intertwined. every messy fold is NOT meaningless. even if it's rotten work they'll do it again and again and again#OR MAYBE#these two media are alike for the dick jokes and shameless references but anyway hahaha#one day I'll write a gintama style orv fic to prove what y'all are missing...gintama fics are absolute GOLD in the wild.#kim dokja#sakata gintoki#gintama#orv#omniscient reader's viewpoint
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