#and charles and edwin would absolutely love that
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why compare and pit against each other the various versions of charles and edwin when the truth is that they would be absolutely Thrilled to meet the different version of themselves and discover that the two of them meet and become friends in Every Universe
#i have seen lots of comparisons of their portrayals in different things#but honestly for what#each version of them has different assets and things to love#but the core of who they are remains the same no matter what#and charles and edwin would absolutely love that#they're best mates no matter what#lets all just embrace the differences between the various versions and celebrate them#dead boy detectives#dead boy detective agency#dbd comics#doom patrol#charles rowland#edwin payne#edwin paine#dbd netflix
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i get such a sense of primal envy when looking at edwin’s clothes up close because god you can just tell his coat is real wool and made to last and not cheap flimsy mass produced garbage and auggagghhhh that was just STANDARD in his time. by no means am i saying i was #borninthewronggeneration because i like having vaccines and household appliances but. man. to have a personally-tailored coat like that that’d last for years and years……. and fabrics of fine thread-dense quality………. if only
#edwin would be so disgusted by shein products can you fucking imagine#i mean he’d be disgusted by most mass produced brand/off-brand clothing but fast fashion shit like that would be the Worst#thank god for the fact that I don’t think anyone in the group would wear that kinda shit. for wildly different reasons#crystal wouldn’t because why the fuck would she. she can afford the most expensive high quality shit on the market. and even if she goes#thrifting you can just tell if something looks/feels like cheap garbage she’d not even touch it#niko’s a fashion icon and constantly changing her outfits BUT she seems like the type who loves repurposing old clothing/re-arranging things#in her wardrobe and making different combinations rather than buying new clothes all the time and wasting perfectly good clothing#plus she wasn’t raised in America and likely did not get normalized to fast fashion#charles doesn’t because. well#you know.#ghost. and whatnot#even so I doubt his parents bought him clothes that often so he’d have to either save up the money to buy stuff he wants (probably thrifted)#or repurpose old clothes in various ways. his coat absolutely looks high quality and I bet he saved up like crazy for it#rambling#edwin#dead boy detectives#edwin payne
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imagining a world in which Simon agreed to go with Edwin and try to escape hell, imagining Simon developing an immediate and very inadvisable crush on the cute guy that just threw a grenade at a demon and Edwin's reaction to that, imagining the reaction of Charles Overprotective Rowland when he finds out that the guy Edwin insists on dragging along with them is one of the guys that sacrificed him to a demon in the first place, imagining the Night Nurse's face when three dead boys pop back through the door instead of two
#dead boy detectives#charles rowland#edwin payne#This is very much not what I would have wanted to see in the show because that episode was perfect to me#But I do think it would have been funny#And hey if you wanted to go the angst route and follow sandman comic lore of 'people stay in hell because they believe they should be there#Then you could have Edwin who has come to terms with who he is and Simon who is starting to forgive himself thanks to Edwin#Getting out of Hell just fine while they're being chased#And Charles 'im scared I'll end up like my dad' Rowland. Charles 'i could never be good enough' Rowland. Charles 'rage issues' Rowland#Who doesn't think he deserves to get out. Even if the thought is deep down and buried#Edwin's reaction to that would be. Woof. Yikes. Delicious#Don't get me wrong Charles would absolutely not stay in hell because I love him too much for that#And so does Death and you absolutely cannot change my mind about that there's no way she doesn't know about the boys#So yeah he'd get out fairly quickly#But just. The potential. The pain. Chef's kiss
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question for the dead boy detectives fans:
would you prefer for Edwin and Charles' relationship to stay platonic or to become romantic?
i'm just genuinely curious
#i would personally prefer for them to become romantic#i ship them from the first second they were on screen together#they even paralleled orpheus and eurydice c'mon#but still it is very very clear that they love eachother so much even if not romantically#and honestly platonic or not i absolutely love their relationship#so in the end it wil be fine either way but i would prefer them to he romantic one day#(a slow burn would be just *chef kiss*)#dead boy detectives#charles rowland#edwin payne#edwin x charles#payneland
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absolutely obsessed with the intensity of love and care and attention in the way that charles is looking at edwin he’s responding to the confession. i have literally never seen a person look at someone so lovingly and carefully and now that i’ve seen it i will never recover i fear
#charles giving edwin the most loving look known to man: yeah so i can’t really say that im in love with you mate#if someone looked at me like that i would die a second time#they love each other so much it’s absolutely insane#dead boy detectives#payneland#dbda
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We all know that it's canon that Edwin Payne reads (and loves) a lot of Arthur Conan Doyle's books, and we know it's likely that he's a fan of the Sherlock Holmes stories.
But imagine him being introduced to BBC Sherlock by Niko or Crystal and seeing an autistic detective that struggles with communication and empathy, wears formal clothing and doesn't like many people beside his best friend ... who he's in love with.
I think he'd combust. Let that Edwardian ghost find out what Johnlock is.
(Niko would absolutely introduce him to Johnlock fanfics)
#dead boy detectives#edwin payne#charles rowland#sherlock holmes#bbc sherlock#painland#johnlock#dead boy detective agency#sherlock#john watson#i have a soft spot for autistic queer detectives#he would absolutely love sherlock because he could investigate the cases along with sherlock#and charles would love it too#because edwin loves it#and he loves edwin
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Edwin Payne is a dweeb who gives terrible weak comebacks, who can be unnecessarily petty, or overly smug, who is inordinately pleased with himself when wearing detective gear and using scientific gear, the thought never crossing his mind that he might not look as cool as he thinks he does, who carries a continual and utter absolute delight at acting like the characters he loved to read about, who was enthralled by his magazine detective and adventure stories and who wears a similar smile when he sits on the bed watching Scooby Doo with Niko, 'these detectives are terribly clever,' whose board game collection is mostly variations of Clue, who requires payment (because any good detective is worth some kind of payment) but whose idea of payment is whatever interesting object the client offers to add to his collection, who has encyclopedic intelligence he clearly dedicated hours to learning, who has a particular way of acting and speaking like everything is of vital importance, because to him, it is.
#dead boy detectives#edwin payne#charles rowland#niko sasaki#crystal palace#dead boy detective agency#Edwin is a legitimate nerd#I get serious 1960s Peter Parker vibes from him#he reads the equivalent of comic books instead of hanging out with other people of course he would absolutely love cartoons#he's not good at fighting but excellent at running#chooses to only wear extremely proper and practical clothes unless he's very relaxed or stressed#of course he likes being a dead boy detective it's literally what he spent all his time reading#when he's being overly smug and self-important he reminds me of Peter Parker on Venom in Spider-Man 3#like he thinks he's owning the floor but literally nobody else gets that impression#but then there's other moments where he's - not exactly intimidating but also someone you can't ignore#and he's so passionate about his detective work#just some thoughts#character analysis#he definitely has flaws#but he is also an incredible nerd#twilight-zoned-out#I can definitely see how the original character was supposed to be 12#but it still works how they did it#his height would definitely not work if he was 12 lol#he liked detectives so now he is a detective#it had to be said
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If I had a nickel for every time I was obsessed with a piece of media that featured a classy little detective boy with less-than-optimal people skills who was previously bullied by a closeted gay guy, is an academic workaholic who presents himself as very lawful but is absolutely a badass in his own right, is severely queer and has a lot of angst and character growth about it, has his internalized anxieties about being queer manifest in a freaky doll monster who haunts his nightmares even after he's escaped from it, has been to Hell and had a really good bonding experience with his chaotic bisexual punk friend whilst in Hell, and has a weirdly attractive and morally corrupt cat person as their primary character arc antagonist and instigator, I would have two nickles
Which isn't a lot
BUT IT'S VERY FUCKING WEIRD THAT IT HAPPENED TWICE!
#riz gukgak#edwin payne#dimension 20#fantasy high#dead boy detectives#is the part with “bonded with his bi punk friend while in hell” thing a bit of a stretch? maybe#i mean to be fair riz helped fig take over the bottomless pit but edwin confessed his love to charles so#comparing ragh and simon is absolutely not a stretch though fight me on this#neither is comparing baron and the spider doll#and you KNOW that kalina and the cat king would get along SO fucking well
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dead boy detectives is the perfect cure for a broken heart
#missing lockwood and co? cozy yet horrifying found family vibes right here. also ghosts#missing julie and the phantoms? its just a girl and her ghost boys doing the best they can#missing nancy drew? this has got supernatural mysteries with just touch of true love#missing supernatural? absolutely unhinged type of storyline following two boys who would die for each other without hesitation#missing orpheus and eurydice? guess what they both make it out of the underworld this time.#missing teen wolf? the relationships are everything. also the ongoing quest to be a good person despite the world#not to mention a banging soundtrack#and an adorable romantic plotline for everyone i'm crying#i'm not tricking you i swear#dead boy detectives#dead boy detective agency#lockwood and co#julie and the phantoms#nancy drew#supernatural#orpheus and eurydice#edwin and charles#crystal and charles#please watch it i’m begging you
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✨(for the Star from the ask game - please give random information about your fanfics??)
Thank you so much!! Sorry this took so long, I just got back from my holiday 🥰
A very random fact: for Won't Fear Love, where Charles takes Edwin on dates to figure out his feelings, I initially wanted to include this in the author's note in the last chapter (and then forgot about it):
You just know that the boys keep up the date schedule even afterwards. Usually, it's Charles who plans the activities, but sometimes, Edwin pitches in as well, if he stumbles upon something.
(One time, he takes Charles to the opera, and they dress up all fancy, which Charles loves, even if he isn't wild about the performance afterwards. Another time, he takes them to a classical concert outside of Schönbrunn palace in Vienna, which they both enjoy a lot - Edwin because of the music and Charles because halfway through the performance, he ends up in Edwin's lap, kissing him until they both cannot think anymore.)
And it goes on for so long, that at some point, a client comes to them with a case around midday on a second Wednesday of a month, and they decide to take the case. From tomorrow on, of course.
"Why can't you start now? You have nothing else to do, this is time sensitive!", the client wants to know, obviously annoyed.
A gasp echoes through the room, coming from the boys and Crystal simultaneously, like the man had just made the biggest social blunder imaginable.
"Of course we cannot start tonight", Edwin starts, folding his hands and looking very put upon; Crystal finishes the thought for him, "What do you take us for? Don't you know it's date night?!"
#dead boy detectives#dead boy detective agency#charles rowland#edwin payne#payneland#paynland#painland#paineland#i think crystal would get very invested in it too#probably because she'd be the one both of them come to for help with organising the dates#crystal: edwin you absolutely have to take charles to this concert he will love it#edwin: oh fantastic can you-#crystal: get the tickets? way ahead of you eddie-boy here you go have fun don't do anything i wouldn't do
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wait charles and edwin DON'T end up together??
that's so sad, I will be going to Ao3 for fanfics
#no but really though#my whole shabaam going into this was “two gay ghosts down for each other”#I mean when you're rooting for Charwin from the beginning#Crystal + Charles just isn't hitting that spot#like it's giving the thing#the thing yk???#I would love for monty to go through an arc and become “good”#While my main thing will always be charwin I will say#I would be with crystal and charles IF Edwin found someone#let's say good!monty or even cat king for that matter#I have a feeling that Edwin would be a very kinky sub#but still#not only is it sad that they ended this series so abruptly#becuase I LOVE the acting#it's not the best acting but it absolutely is the best for THIS series#and I'm only at ep 4 halfway through#like I want both of them to like someone#idk you get me?
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there is just something about the difference between edwin's love interests and having the cat king's reaction to edwin in hell being "i'll be waiting when he gets back" vs charles "no version of this where i don't come get you" rowland convincing a powerful trans-dimensional being to open a door to hell just so he could get him back
i am insane
#like YES i know there is obviously so much more history between the boys than edwin and the cat king#and for everyone who's like “well how would the cat king have gotten to hell”#yall charles got LUCKY that the night nurse was there to open a door for him#you can bet your ass that if she hadn't been there he still would've figured out how to get there no matter what it took#but the cat king calling himself a romantic because he'll wait vs charles GOING TO HELL TO GET HIM BACK????#absolutely insane#i cannot handle these two#like i can vibe with the cat king#but charles x edwin for the WIN#obviously the circumstances between the characters are a lot different#but to me that changes absolutely nothing about the fact that charles who only thinks of edwin as a friend would do literally anything#vs the cat king who claims to have fallen for edwin doing literally nothing and just sulking about it#i don't even care if you dont ship charles and edwin#the love they have for each other will forever outweigh anything else#(ps if you ship catwin you simply do not need to interact with this post. you will not change my mind)#(you do not have to interact with posts you don't agree with)#dead boy detectives#dead boy detective agency#charles rowland#edwin payne#the cat king#painland#payneland#dbd netflix
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banging my head against the wall every time I see someone reblogging a post of mine with tags mentioning the ‘unrequited confession’. we have been OVER this it is NOT a case of unrequited romantic love it is completely canonically up in the air as a possibility. listen to jayden revri himself and be enlightened i am begging you
#rambling#payneland#also getting recommended posts with this rhetoric fhdhfjdhd it’s just annoying cause it’s like. misinformation#if that scene was actually a rejection I’d feel a lot worse about this show as a whole like really it Matters that it’s not#do you really think Superhell 2: Escape From Superhell would be a good idea. because I feel like they’re actively trying to counter those#kinds of damaging or at least exhausting and overdone queer tropes#tragic unrequited gay boy hopelessly in love with his best friend suffering forever because he’s gay#is. exactly the kind of exhausting overdone queer trope that almost unequivocally makes me lose a lot of respect for a show#so it is very very very important to me that this is. not that. and the actors have cemented that fact openly#please………..please just listen to the words being said………don’t conflate uncertainty with rejection……..take my hand#that’s not to say edwin didn’t TAKE it as a rejection. because based on what he says to niko he absolutely did#which will make it all the more juicy when what he thinks is impossible starts to become real and within reach. eventually. hopefully#also- less explicit- but Charles’ hand-on-heart thing after their last hug… like you really don’t have to be a film major#(saying this as a film major) to deduce what that means and what its calling back to. it’s pretty easy to put 2+2 together there#but anyway. I digress
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the thing that gets me the absolute most about the love confession is just . how charles responds.
like, genuinely if he didn't feel some kind of feelings for edwin, he would've let him down gently, right then and there.
but it is the fact that he said "i can't say that like, i'm in love with you back, but there's no one else, no one else, that i would go to hell for. and we've got literally forever to figure out what the rest means" LIKE.
HE IS NOT QUITE AWARE OF HIS FEELINGS FOR HIM BECAUSE HE HAS NEVER THOUGHT TO THINK ANY DIFFERENTLY/ WHAT IT COULD POSSIBLY MEAN?
also this is neil gaiman show be so fucking for real!!!
#me talking about a show that isnt 911???#woah..#edwin payne#charles rowland#dead boy detectives#dead boy detective agency spoilers#payneland#like guys they are so slowburn endgame#by slowburn i mean pls gimme their canon in s2#where are the fics btw!!!!
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"Sorry. no version of this where i didn't come and get you, is there?”
I had this in my head for like a month cuz Charles would love this (wrapping his jacket around Edwin when they hug) because it absolutely makes him feel like he’s protecting/ shielding Edwin from the world. I think Edwin likes it too but wouldn’t admit it .
However , those two tall-ass boys were never really both gonna fit in Charles jacket :( well I tried
#charles rowland#dead boy detectives#edwin payne#payneland#painland#dead boy detective agency#dead boy detective fanart#dead boy detective netflix#edwin x charles#chedwin#ship art#fanart#renew dead boy detectives#fuck netflix#gay
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You don't understand how much I love and want to see bamf!Edwin
A bad guy attempting to scare Edwin with some typical triggers like blood, gore, monsters, or darkness, but Edwin staying unfazed, he can walk through pools of blood with no problem, unless it's baby dolls or long corridors he's fine!
Edwin not reacting to being stabbed with iron is pretty much a Tragedy MachineTM special at this point, I can talk about it for hours
Edwin using his hard-earned running skills and absolutely booking it to reach Charles and save him, I wanna see him run towards something instead of running away, you feel me
Someone trying to dig through his memories and getting absolutely wrecked by scenes from Hell and having to run away screaming
Him taking a weapon that's supposed to disintegrate ghosts and it just bouncing off him (okay yeah it does hurts him ofc, but he's still there and kicking while a normal ghost would have poofed out of existence)
I'll even take a demon commenting about how special and delicious Edwin's soul is and Edwin being like "yeah I know, do fuck off"
#for every post talking about charles rescuing edwin i make a post about edwin being cool and/or rescuing charles#both tropes have such a grip on me#charles ofc swoons every time does smth like this#edwin payne#dbda#dead boy detective agency#dead boy detectives#my posts#payneland#charles rowland
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