#and called me an antisemite and told me to shut up

[lee-jinkis-ponytail]

literally wanna vom over how a lot of "leftists" (liberals) are now sharing all the "democracy dies in darkness / I don't know how to convince you to care about other people" memes when college students have been brutalized for protesting our government's ongoing support of the palestinian genocide. where were you all this last year? why were you all silent until your own rights were on the line?

[jasontoddisrightfuckyou]

I’m going to take your tags in good faith and try to explain. Cryptotheism was NOT simply throwing in antisemitism as a buzzword. They probably assumed most people knew that what they were talking about were common antisemitism dog whistles but unfortunately most non Jews are completely oblivious to this stuff. I don’t say this to be mean, it’s simply true.

The idea that there are shadowy groups kidnapping white, implicitly or explicitly Christian children, for sex and blood rituals, for torture or sex trafficking is an extremely common element of antisemitic conspiracy theories and slander. The idea that Jews ritually murder Christian children is called blood libel and dates back centuries. In more recent times, stories of cabals abducting and trafficking children are a form of recycled blood libel.

Op was not saying that sex trafficking does not happen, they were urging people to be wary of stories of mysterious figures abducting white upper class children. Please don’t act like there was no reason to discuss antisemitism.

first of! thank you for taking my tags as good faith and explaining!!

I genuinely did not know that was a conspiracy theory and slander that people spread and believed. that is fucking horrific.

I am glad you explained this to me, bc antisemitism is a real and very big issue and i didnt want it to become trivialised by being used as a buzzword.

However I will say that OP probably should've phrased things better of what exactly they wanted to have said, and should've expanded on why the conspiracy theory was antisemitic. Furthermore calling sex trafficking a "conspiracy theory." is highly disrespectful to the people, like me, who have been on it. The conspiracy theory is rather the antisemitism you explained to me above, and the idea that a stranger on in your home town will yank you off the street. OP is right that the idea of a random person kidnapping a privleged middle class person from the street to traffick is unlikely

but that's bc that's not what human trafficking is

it would never be successful if it kept taking people, society and news would look for, notice went missing, and care about

human trafficking tragets poor neighbourhood, abuse or neglect victims, refugees, immigrants, solo travelers, the homeless, POC

thing thing about human trafficking is it is notorious for being very successful in not being caught and there are very few survivors that come back to regular society as well as going after people whose aren't likely to my noticed/reported as missing or where a lot of resources won't be put on for searching for them

like the abuse victims whose family or friends either sell them into it, or are don't notice/care they go missing. illegal immigrants can't even file a missing reports if someone goes missing at fear of being deported. the native women and children are disappearing in us and Canada without anyone looking for them. the refugees and immigrants just. disappear

calling all of human and sex trafficking a "conspiracy theory" without explain what you mean by that, is deeply disrespectful

[infiniteglitterfall]

I guess this might be why the UK seemed to go so antisemitic so quickly

I'm researching the 1947 pogroms in the UK. (Actually, I'm researching all the pogroms and massacres of Jews in the past 200 years. Which today led me to discover that there were pogroms in the UK in 1947.)

From an article on "The Postwar Revival of British Fascism," all emphasis mine:

Given the rising antisemitism and widespread ignorance about Zionism [in the UK in 1947], fascists were easily able to conflate Zionist paramilitary attacks with Judaism in their speeches, meaning British Jews came to be seen as complicit in violence in Palestine.

Bertrand Duke Pile, a key member of Hamm’s League, informed a cheering crowd that “the Jews have no right to Palestine and the Jews have no right to the power which they hold in this country of ours.” Denouncing Zionism as a way to introduce a wider domestic antisemitic stance was common to many speakers at fascist events and rallies. Fascists hid their ideology and ideological antisemitism behind the rhetorical facade of preaching against paramilitary violence in Palestine.

One of the league’s speakers called for retribution against “the Jews” for the death of British soldiers in Palestine. This was, he told his audience, hardly an antisemitic expression. “Is it antisemitism to denounce the murderers of your own flesh and blood in Palestine?” he asked his audience. Many audience members, fascist or not, may well have felt the speaker had a point. ...[The photo of two British sergeants hanged by the Irgun in retaliation for the Brits hanging three of their members] promptly made numerous appearances at fascist meetings, often attached to the speaker’s platform. In at least one meeting, several British soldiers on leave from serving in Palestine attended Hamm’s speech, giving further legitimacy to his remarks. And with soldiers and policemen in Palestine showing increasing signs of overt antisemitism as a result of their experiences, the director of public prosecutions warned that the fascists might receive a steady stream of new recruits.

MI5, the U.K. domestic security service, noted with some alarm that “as a general rule, the crowd is now sympathetic and even spontaneously enthusiastic.” Opposition, it was noted in the same Home Office Bulletin of 1947, “is only met when there is an organized group of Jews or Communists in the audience.”

The major opposition came from the 43 Group, formed by the British-Jewish ex-paratrooper Gerry Flamberg and his friends in September 1946 to fight the fascists using the only language they felt fascists understood — violence. The group disrupted fascist meetings for two purposes: to get them shut down by the police for disorder, and to discourage attendance in the future by doling out beatings with fists and blunt instruments. By the summer of 1947, the group had around 500 active members who took part in such activities. Among these was a young hairdresser by the name of Vidal Sassoon, who would often turn up armed with his hairdressing scissors.

The 43 Group had considerable success with these actions, but public anger was spreading faster than they could counter the hate that accompanied it. The deaths of Martin and Paice had touched a nerve with the populace. On Aug. 1, 1947, the beginning of the bank holiday weekend and two days after the deaths of the sergeants, anti-Jewish rioting began in Liverpool. The violence lasted for five days. Across the country, the scene was repeated: London, Manchester, Hull, Brighton and Glasgow all saw widespread violence. Isolated instances were also recorded in Plymouth, Birmingham, Cardiff, Swansea, Newcastle and Davenport. Elsewhere, antisemitic graffiti and threatening phone calls to Jewish places of worship stood in for physical violence. Jewish-owned shops had their windows smashed, Jewish homes were targeted, an attempt was made to burn down Liverpool Crown Street Synagogue while a wooden synagogue in Glasgow was set alight. In a handful of cases, individuals were personally intimidated or assaulted. A Jewish man was threatened with a pistol in Northampton and an empty mine was placed in a Jewish-owned tailor shop in Davenport.

And an important addendum:

I've read a whole bunch of articles about the pogroms in Liverpool, Manchester, Salford, Eccles, Glasgow, etc.

Not one of them has mentioned that the Irgun, though clearly a terrorist group, was formed in response to 18 years of openly antisemitic terrorism, including multiple incredibly violent massacres. Or that it consistently acted in response to the murders of Jewish civilians, not on the offensive. Or that at this point, militant Arab Nationalist groups with volunteers and arms from the Arab League countries had been attacking Jewish and mixed Arab-Jewish neighborhoods for months.

I just think the "Jewish militants had been attacking the British occupiers" angle is incredibly Anglocentric.

Yeah, they were attacking the British occupiers. But also, that's barely the tip of the iceberg.

Everyone involved hated the Brits at this point. If only al-Husseini and his ilk had hated the Brits more than they hated the Jews, Britain could at least have united them by giving them a common enemy.

[thequeeranachronism]

As a leftist Jew it was already apparent to me before October 7th that leftist goyim will weaponize anti Zionism to get Jews to shut up. I’ve talked about antisemitism in leftist and queer spaces long before October 7th and have gotten on at least one block list for being a sneaky Je— crypto-Zionist trying to brainwash leftists.

I still remember an admin of a leftist Facebook group immediately and aggressively interrogating me for whether I was a Zionist or not the minute I mentioned being Jewish on a post; which of course had nothing to do with Israel.

Being told that I can’t possibly care both about the hostages and Palestinians. That I can’t point out that a call for ceasefire without calling for releasing the hostages will be ultimately ineffective. I was told off for grieving the loss of life on October 7th and calling it a terrorist attack.

If leftist Jews don’t feel safe at your protests then how are we supposed to work towards peace along side you? If even the JVP (not a very Jewish organization basically a joke amongst most Jews) can be called Zionists then how do we work with you? It seems intentionally or not (and I do believe with a lot of people it is intentional) leftist goyim are pushing Jews out of leftist spaces.

Ultimately as a leftist Jew I feel abandoned by my fellow leftists and I know a lot of other leftist Jews feel the same.

[jewish-vents]

Lost another friend and need to rant about it. This is gonna be long and all over the place: apologies in advance.

I hate how unfair the world is to us. I hate how all the good leftist principles apply to every minority except us. I hate how the world ensures we see that it treats us differently so we can feel totally isolated (we are) and give up. I hate how we aren't given basic human decency like everyone else. I hate how even as I write this, I fear being misunderstood.

I'm a "Jew of color" and the gentile who I am no longer friends with is POC like me. I had to cut them off because they have more contempt towards me (they also treat me like I'm the representative of all Jews) than white people.

I express my experiences with antisemitism and my sadness about how bad antisemitism is right now? They would tell me I'm insensitive and selfish because Palestine. "Just go outside and you'll be fine" but going outside is how I experience antisemitism. Antisemitism is a real thing, I would say. It's not just a few hate comments on a screen by trolls like Hitlerfan123. We are not safe anywhere and we can't hide. This isn't an exaggeration to trick you like the evil Jew I am. And they would just bring up Palestine again. And again. To shut me down and to shut me out. I would get defensive and they'd tell me that I'm acting like a white person. White tears. White fragility. BUT YOU'RE NOT LISTENING TO ME, I would say. And they'd tell me I'm acting hysterical. That the zionists put me in some delusion where the world is out to get me but I'm actually fine and no one wants to hurt Jews.

"You're acting like a white person who says "we get hate crimed too" whenever a poc talks about their oppression" they said. They made a few comparisons like that. I tried so hard to get them to understand me. To acknowledge our pain.

Don't they know I can feel pain too? I observed how they would constantly post stuff like "minorities must stick together". They would keep an eye on hate crimes for everyone but us and actually listen to their stories. Do they even know how soul crushing that is? To feel so completely alone?

I couldn't even talk about the Holocaust with them. Every time I tried to, they'd have to say "the Holocaust isn't unique and all genocides are connected" at least once. And it's so fucking unfair. Why are we the only ones being told "we're not special"? These "you and your experiences aren't unique" conversations start and stop with us. I would never, ever tell anyone slavery isn't unique because slavery was unique. I would never go up to someone and tell them oh btw the genocide of your people wasn't unique. That's EVIL. And yet it only happens to us. Before anyone misunderstands me, I know right wingers routinely say this to minorities. But the whole bird mocks and belittles us. Regular people go out of their way to remind us "we're not unique or special". I shouldn't have to give a million disclaimers either. Only we are told our genocide isn't special. I honestly wouldn't care if the people who told me that said the same thing about other genocides. But they never do. They'll go on to talk about how unique every other genocide is and then come back to us with "the Holocaust isn't unique". You only ever talk about the Holocaust when it's time to say "everything's connected" and yet you're surprised I call you an antisemite?! If you can't talk about the Holocaust without mentioning other genocides and other minorities, you can't gaslight me into thinking I'm an anti-intersectionality asshole.

And then there's the speaking over us thing. I dumped my ex friends who were all POC/queer/etc for this very reason. I'm on the floor in pain sobbing about antisemitism and you think you know being a Jew more than me. I say something like "hey Zionist can be a slur towards Jews" and you immediately disagree and try to argue with me. "But my other Jewish friend said otherwise so I don't believe you". Or "This random Jew i follow online says otherwise". I have never been so dehumanized.

Can't forget the "weaponization of antisemitism" thing. I hear this all the time now. Who do they think they are? Gentiles have never felt more comfortable. They are afraid to criticize or say anything about other minorities and will even bend for them but with us, it's "Jews cry antisemitism". And as I said to my ex friends, don't be shy. Expand this convo TO EVERYONE YOU PRICKS. Tell POC they weaponize racism. Tell gay people they weaponize homophobia. And they never do. Because anything flies with Jews and Jews alone.

Okay rant over. I hate this world

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[queer-scots-geordie-dyke]

I am nearly 40 years old and I've considered myself a leftist politically since I was old enough to form my own opinions. Have I always been a shining moral example? Definitely not - there have absolutely been times when I've had unexamined prejudices and been called out on them. It's deeply uncomfortable having to examine your own prejudices and to be told that you're wrong, and I get the instinct to push back.

But never in my entire life have I seen as much doubling down and ignoring of minority voices and as much mask off bigotry as I have seen this last month in reaction to Jews telling pro Palestine activists that a lot of what they're doing is blatant antisemitism and actively harmful to their community.

Absolutely, advocate and uplift Palestinian voices and draw attention to what is happening, because what is happening is utterly appalling.

But when you happily parrot genocidal slogans like 'From the River to the Sea' while totally ignoring anyone's attempts to tell you why that is so hideously problematic, when you unironically call for the total eradication of the only Jewish nation state on earth in a way that you never ever do for other nations whose governments have committed similar or worse crimes, when you happily chant shit like "Death to Zionist pigs" without the first clue what that word actually means (hint: it's not shorthand for 'evil barely humans who want all Palestinians dead' and it's incredibly disgusting to use it that way. Zionists believe in the Jewish right to return to and live on their ancestral homeland. That's it. That's all) then don't think for one solitary minute you possess any kind of moral high ground.

And when leftists who usually loudly proclaim the right of indigenous peoples to return to their land have the audacity to turn around and say to Jews "not you though - actually you're terrible and evil for even wanting such a thing. Never mind that the rest of the world has engaged in your wholesale dehumanisation and slaughter for thousands of years, your desire for your homeland is the bad thing actually" what is that hypocrisy but blatant antisemitism? Please, enlighten me.

When a Jewish person tells you are peddling in antisemitism, just shut the fuck up and listen.

A caveat to this is that I am not Jewish, I don't know any Jewish people IRL, none of this impacts me personally. But I am a human being, and will not and cannot stay silent about the hypocrisy and outright dehumanisation of other human beings by people who cannot for the life of them either open a history book or take the time to actually listen to the people this impacts and instead just perform their self righteous little dance.

[hg-aneh]

will you ever come back, or is this an indefinite hiatus/straight up dipping?

i don't know

all the i miss yous are making me want to come back but ik i would just be terrified and motionless as soon as i do

Vent-ish Rant downstairs

CW: Pedophilia, Antisemitism, Suicide, Ableism, Harassment, Bullying, all the important words except for murder basically

i want to fix things in private with the people who hurt me so things can be okay and I don't out them for being wieners

but i also want everyone to know who hurt me, yet I'm aware it's not the right choice to make. social media outrage barely leads to anything, specially where minors are concerned

hell,now that i think about it, considering the fact that they genuinely don't believe people older than them are allowed to have feelings, I don't even think talking would be the right move

it's scary, its fucking scary

fuck. the whole thing started with a person mocking the way i spoke about crowley telling me to stop babying him because i was a legal adult and shouldn't be speaking like that

i had just turned 18 and the person was only a year younger than me

like when it's gone to that point and shit is that fucked up, what can one person even do

i remember i laughed about it back then but truth be told, every single little thing I've been told and that I've listened to coming from the people who hurt me has fucking destroyed me as a person

I looked at my older Discord messages, from before this whole mess started. I was so fucking happy and shameless with my joy, now look at my sorry ass

i just.

it's crazy that i have to go around masking in social media of all places because there are people that take such offense to me being cringe that they legitimately turn into high school mean girls

it's crazy that there are people who claim I'm something i am not because they want to make me look bad in the eyes of their little circlejerking friend groups so they can feel like the hero of the story

it's crazy that empathy goes completely out of the window when an account is big, that people don't see human beings as human beings when they're behind a screen

"just log off lol" i am a lonely shut in motherfucker due to my autism (that, surprise surprise, hinders my ability to socialize), you do not understand what you're asking of me, specially while being in this country and at this point in time where I'm actively craving to kick the metaphorical bucket, at daily risk of doing so, and what basically is house arrest for my own safety and well being

(aka, avoiding to physically yeet myself into upcoming traffic or buying something to actually seal the deal)

thus far I've been accused of antisemitism, pedophilia, being too self-centered (which. bro, the reason why i talk about myself is because it's the one thing i can comment on without being scared of some random person coming to tell me "NuH uH" about it out of nowhere or worse, having their feelings hurt because I don't agree with them 100%), proshipper (which, to those people, the word implies wonderful labels such as "incest apologist" "pedophile" (again) "abuse endorser" among other things) ((sidenote, I'm on neither side on that particular discourse. my friends from both sides know this. I would elaborate on my stance if this wasn't already long enough, but it is, so I'm leaving it at an "I don't care, you do you, but please leave me out of it")), being... mean... because i blocked someone...? (this one is just. that's how the second wave of hate started btw. yeah, because i blocked someone. holy fuck), and there's probably a handful of other things I haven't seen yet. fuck it, there's probably someone out there calling me a zoophile because of my catboy au

My friends who I will not name because I don't want the high school mean girls crusade to get to them, have helped me stash out evidence for all of the accusations and bullying.

fuck, they were the ones who let me know about it on the first place, both actions for which i am eternally thankful for because it means I can defend myself properly should the occasion arise (dios no quiera)

I've already had to make a post on Xitter responding to the antisemitism and pedophilia claims, in which, for the latter, i had to reveal extremely personal information for the people who started this to give me respite if only for a while

and. ugh

What I'm trying to get at with all of this is. it's. coming back is scary. i want to but at the same time I don't think I can take this shit anymore

I wish I had people defending me like this when the harassment started because I'm a spineless little bitch who'd rather talk things out and at least be neutral with people than clap back and tell them to stop being stinky

but what's done is done and now i just gotta figure out how to fix my head before i do something stupid

this is not the full story obviously, I'm cutting off certain details as well as more personal depression stuff to not make this bible longer than it already is

fuck

TLDR: I need a hug, idk if I'm coming back, I probably will cuz I can't say no to people, and some teenagers are horrible

[a-very-tired-jew]

Fandomization, Fervor, and Fuck Off

A consistent and appalling behavior since October has been the fandomization of the I/P Conflict by anti-Zionists and co. Many of us on this site have documented and talked about such behavior. From my own personal experience it reminded me of certain anime fandoms back in the day when they first emerged. If you weren't talking about it and it wasn't all consuming then you were a problem. I remember conventions being hell as these new fandoms crashed photo shoots and panels that weren't about them. The way in which anti-Zionists crash into other issues to make it about their particular one is reminiscent of these behaviors. As I've stated before, my toes are dipped into a variety of scientific topics as an ecologist. One of them is climate change and for the past few months the conversation within CC spheres has been forcibly turned to I/P and the "wanton destruction of the Palestinian landscape by the evil Jews Zionists. Thereby proving they're not indigenous because no indigenous culture would destroy their landscape." Never mind that the conversation prior to that moment was about pollinator loss due to climate change and habitat loss. This is Fandomization and Fervor. The want to drive your fandom into every single topic and make it everything. But now? We're in the Fuck Off stage, and I don't mean this as us telling anti-Zionists to fuck off, I mean the Fandom is telling people within it to Fuck Off or, at least, shut up. Since the beginning of this conflict there have been moderate voices within the anti-Zionist activist movement. We talk about the outright antisemitic and hate fueled ones here, but don't talk about these persons enough. The Moderates are the ones within these spheres that get pointed to when we bring up antisemitism because they bring nuance to the movement and try to curb the worst of the vitriol. They are the ones that screen capped and held up besides the token "Good Jews". While they didn't necessarily have as much of an impact in the beginning of the conflict due to the lack of numbers and the overwhelming fervor, zealouness, and righteousness of anti-Zionists, they are being noticed now. Many of the spaces I am in that posted incessantly every day and had multitudes of conversations about I/P throughout them have now become relatively silent. There might be a brief conversation over the course of 30 minutes here or there, an article gets posted every few days, and the AJ update is the only daily posting. Now, when larger conversations kick off there is more attention paid to the Moderates and the nuance they bring because it's not rapid fire anymore. People don't have to scroll back through hundreds of messages to find the nuance, it's right there and it's loud and clear. So they're being told to Fuck Off In every space I am in I have seen some variation of "Shut up, every time you talk the conversation ends" told to the Moderates. Why? Because each time they are addressing something that would have radicalized people earlier in the conflict. They are addressing outright hate and/or contradictory messaging. The culmination of which has been talking about the Islamic Republic's recent attack on Israel. I have seen them blatantly call out their activist community for celebrating an attack by a country that stands antithetical to everything its members say they stand for (LGBTQ+ rights, women's rights, political rights, etc...) and jails, tortures, and kills people like them. As such, the Fervor and radicalization of new fandom members can't happen, and I see it angering the people whose entire identity has revolved around the Fandom and the hatred associated with it. The cognitive dissonance that the Moderates invoke in the radicals has resulted in some outright hatred in these communities that I thought was reserved only for us Jews. But now? Now it's clear that the most ardent members of the Fandom are just full of hate. That's it. They don't actually care of Palestinians, they just want to justify their hate and wallow in it.

[spacelazarwolf]

I've been attending a queer community group for 6 months in a small city. I don't talk about myself since I'm fleeing violence and just go to be around people I don't work with. Yesterday i was hanging out with someone from that group, outside of the group, for the first time. They thanked me for making the group more accepting by being openly Jewish. They've started making their events less Xtian, making plans behind closed doors to be more open to non xtians/atheists, and shutting down antisemitism super aggressively since they found out I'm Jewish. They threatened to kick people from group last week when they told an antisemitic joke (once I was out of the room as to not upset me). There's only one problem.

I'm not Jewish.

I grew up in a primarily Jewish community. I've attended a lot of events and gatherings at Synagogues my whole life. I can say "I don't speak Hebrew" in Hebrew. And I am not Jewish. 2 or 3 months ago people were trash talking religion but clearly just meant Xtian and I corrected them to say Xtian when they mean Xtian, citing my queer Jewish *friends* as people who have not had the same religious queerphobia, and good religious experiences in general. I was thanked, conversation kept going, and I did not know it until last night.

I immediately corrected my friend. They think this is hilarious. I am consulting a rabbi on if I can ethically only correct people when they make it known to me that they think I'm Jewish, since I'm apparently making an impact on the group in a positive way when they assume. I feel insane. Goyim will hear you don't think Jewish people are homophobic and assume you are Jewish bc there is no other explanation I guess. Feel free to toss your two cents in on this comedy of errors while I wait for the rabbi to get back to me.

allying so hard u accidentally trip into the mikveh.

honestly though, it is really funny to me how many goyim think that the only people who could possibly defend jews are other jews. this is a pretty consistent issue in progressive spaces, so i'm glad you're calling it out.

[sweaterkittensahoy]

Look, I'm just one goy who has been yelling about the rise of antisemitism on the left, and I've been called names, told to kill myself, and been accused of baby murder.

And I remind you, I am not a Jew. And I remind you, for every dumb fuck who's tried to come for my neck, who has put me on a fucking "careful there be zionists" list, who has accused me of hating Palestinians, for every single time that's happened to me, it's happened 10 times or 20 times or 30 times to the Jews who speak out and refuse to shut up.

And it's happened for a lot fucking longer than it's been happening to me because there are people who see existing as Jewish as one of the worst things you could ever do, and those people are fucking terrible and gleeful in their mistreatment of Jews and their chance to be harmful.

I'm not gonna shut up. I'm not gonna stop doing what little I can in a very large situation. I'm not gonna do any mealy-mouthed "oh, but they're really okay, they're just confused" horseshit.

And I'm not going to make space for people who have been loudly antisemitic and know it (and saying be Pro-Israel makes someone problematic IS, in fact, antisemitic) to come back into my orbit now that they saw a man do a fucking Nazi salute at the fucking Inauguration and went, "OMG THAT'S TOO FAR."

The canary died in the coal mine so long ago it's just dust, you fucking assholes.

[lostthenfoundmyself]

Someone reblogged to one of my posts ranting about how “goy” is a slur. Debated whether to respond or not, but ultimately this is so ridiculous that it’s probably not worth feeding the trolls. Posting it here as a compromise to myself, because I’m actually very bad at shutting up.

It’s not a slur. Just isn’t. It’s a Yiddish word. Is gentile a slur? Because it’s literally the same thing, except it got adopted by Christians.

The idiot repeats the word multiple times without censoring it, if it was actually a slur you’d expect them to censor it or at least tw in the tags.

I used the word exactly once on my blog, in this post, in a way that was clearly just me being informal and not me insulting non-Jews in general. I said that “your average goy” probably doesn’t know what a pogrom is. As a statement of fact. Not as in “ooo goys are horrible,” not in an othering or pejorative sense. I don’t know about all the massacres of Confucian scholars or if they had any special name. Like, this is just pointing out a lack of information, not insulting.

Some people using a word pejoratively does not make it a slur. They brought up a bizarre example (possibly a purposely-misrepresented reference to people calling people in the anti-Israel movement “sheep” though who knows what’s going through this person’s head?) of the word being used that way. Well, I’ve seen people compare Jews to a pestilence and other stuff I’m not gonna say. And you know what? “Jew” still isn’t a slur!

Also told me to stop “begging ‘goyish sympathy’ for Israeli crimes.” Dude, if it’s a slur, stop using it. And also, um, I clearly stated in my tags that I was not tagging it with the normal related tags because it was just a personal vent. I tagged it with jumblr tags and antisemitism as a warning. I did not ask for your sympathy. I did not ask for you to interact with me. If you don’t want to see thoughts like mine don’t hang out on the tags “jumblr,” “Jewish,” “antisemitism,” and “am yisrael chai.” Block them or something idc. Like I’m sorry, but that post is so insanely easy for unsympathetic gentiles (is that better?) to avoid.

And the “you and your people are not special?”(Hmm…doesn’t seem to be talking about Israelis here seeing as I’m American…so much for the “just antizionist! uwu” crowd!) I never said we were. All I think is that Jews deserve the same rights and protections and respects afforded to other ethnicities. Self-determination. The right to self-defense. Acknowledgement of our basic humanity.

But that’s too much to ask for some people, isn’t it?

[mariacallous]

Zechariah Mehler wanted to see the swastika for himself.

It was September, and Milwaukee was abuzz over a mural that had gone up on the side of a commercial building in the city’s sixth district. Painted on slabs of vinyl affixed to the brick, the mural — a large rectangle about the size of the building’s ground floor — featured a background that appeared to depict mass graves, weeping mothers, drones and other scenes of carnage in Gaza.

At the center: a Jewish star with a swastika inside it, along with the words, “The irony of becoming what you once hated.”

The city council had passed a resolution condemning the mural, and local Jewish leaders had called to remove it. But the building’s owner, a Palestinian real estate businessman named Ihsan Atta, said he was making a principled stand against Israel’s war in Gaza. When a local mother splashed black paint on the mural and confronted him on camera, yelling, “What are you promoting for our kids to see?” Atta yelled back and had it repainted by the next day.

Any doubts that Mehler had about whether the mural was antisemitic were erased when he visited the site and, he said, saw anti-Zionist protesters harassing Orthodox Jewish teenagers.

“You had the Free Palestine group just screaming at these kids, you know, ‘baby murderers and Zionist pigs,’” he told the Jewish Telegraphic Agency. “It was aggressive, it was intimidating.”

So Mehler — a 42-year-old dreadlocked former tech worker known as “Zee” who used to work as a kosher caterer and run a blog about kosher food — said he decided to take matters into his own hands.

On the night of Sept. 14, he recruited his 74-year-old father Peter, a retired rabbi who is in poor health, to accompany him to the site of the mural. They brought an ax, a sledgehammer and a pry bar and went to work. Moving quickly, the two struck the mural and pulled the vinyl plates off the wall, in full view of Atta’s security cameras. Zechariah turned to one and flipped it off: “Double middle fingers,” the police report would later read.

The pair were derailed — and the incident nearly veered into violence — when a bystander who supported the mural tried to intervene. So Zechariah Mehler returned the following day to finish the job, prying the remaining panels from the wall.

Two weeks later, shortly before Rosh Hashanah, police came to his home. He and his father were arrested and charged with criminal damage to property, which in Wisconsin carries up to nine months of jail time.

Mehler says he knows that what he and his father did was illegal — in fact, he expected to get caught. But he’s convinced they did the morally correct thing, the only option that didn’t require them to ignore or shrink from a threat.

“It is certainly destruction of private property,” he said in an interview. “The question becomes whether or not [the mural] posed a tangible threat to the Jewish community. That’s our argument.”

Peter Mehler says that he, too, has no regrets. He lives with Guillain-Barre syndrome, a rare neurological disorder in which the body’s immune system attacks its own nerves.

“The last 10 years, I’ve been a shut-in, basically,” he said. “But this was an opportunity for me to have a last chance to be active about this message. We cannot allow Jews to be converted into Nazis.”

Now, the Mehlers are hoping to make their case in court. A preliminary hearing is set for Tuesday, though it’s unclear how the case will progress. At a previous court appearance, Zechariah Mehler called Atta profane names and, he said, tried to take a selfie with the mural’s owner to post on social media. Since then, a new district attorney has been sworn in to prosecute cases in Milwaukee, and he hasn’t yet commented publicly on this one.

The case has become a major flashpoint in Milwaukee, where Golda Meir grew up and first became active in the Labor Zionist movement, and where some vocal pro-Palestinian activists have brought a level of hostility to local affairs never before seen by the city’s Jewish community.

Over the summer, the chancellor of the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, whose main campus library is named after Meir, enraged some local Jewish groups by making a deal with his campus’ pro-Palestinian encampment; he wound up apologizing. A progressive Jewish member of Milwaukee’s city council, who’d co-signed a joint resolution condemning the mural, recently died by suicide, an act some of his friends say was motivated by anti-Zionist bullying.

The Mehlers’ case is also capturing attention beyond the city, where the question of how to respond to anti-Israel displays has flummoxed and sometimes divided Jews.

The leader of a group called Betar US, which advocates for Jews to be more forceful, even physical, in confronting the threats they see, invited the father and son to represent the organization in Milwaukee. The group also helped raise nearly $20,000 toward their legal fees.

Betar US is a reboot of a century-old paramilitary group originally founded by early 20th-century Revisionist Zionist leader Ze’ev Jabotinsky. Betar members have been involved in several altercations with pro-Palestinian demonstrators over the last year, and it has even gone after other Jews at times. The group is also collecting information about international students who participate in U.S. pro-Palestinian protests in an effort to get the students deported.

“My politics and Betar’s politics are very different. I’m not a right-wing guy,” Zechariah Mehler said. But he said the group’s president, the Jewish public relations executive Ronn Torossian, assured him, “This is more about, do you believe that Israel has a right to exist, that Jews have a right to live in peace?” Of utmost importance, he said, was that Jews should stop “just being meek and allowing ourselves to be threatened and walked over. So I said, sure.”

Torossian has called the Mehlers “heroes.” He said in an interview that their actions perfectly fit the nonprofit’s vision of seeing Jews publicly fighting back against perceived threats to themselves or Israel.

“The Mehler family is a big reason why we restarted Betar,” said Torossian, who said he grew up in earlier iterations of the movement. “It’s a shame that this man has to stand up and act alone. It’s a shame that this man is facing a criminal trial and the entire Jewish community is silent. That won’t continue. I can assure you, we’re going to get him more support.”

It does not appear that any of the support will come from local Jewish institutions and organizations, whom Zechariah Mehler derided as “deer in headlights” when it comes to the problems presented by anti-Israel activism.

A representative for the Milwaukee Jewish Federation and Jewish Community Relations Council reiterated the federation’s denunciation of the mural as “antisemitic for many reasons,” including that it promotes Holocaust denial and dehumanizes survivors and victims of the Holocaust. But the groups declined to comment further on the Mehlers’ case or on the mural’s actual removal.

The groups have in the past discouraged Jewish vigilantism: In May, amid intense activity at the UWM encampment, the JCRC advised local Jews not to counter-protest, saying that it could escalate a risky situation.

When the Mehlers sought to purchase an advertisement in the local Jewish newspaper, which is owned by the federation, they were rebuffed. “You come with an ongoing backstory that could present content and/or reputation challenges for a Jewish publication,” a federation executive wrote to Zechariah Mehler, in an email that JTA obtained. The official added that the federation “can’t put ourselves in a position where folks can even get the sense that we endorsed any actions of your past.”

Some in the city are sympathetic to the Mehlers. Matt Stolzenberg, a tattoo artist whose parlor had been located in the same building as the mural, has been outspoken about his distaste for it. Following its installation, Stolzenberg — who says he is not Jewish but has Jewish family — said he and his business partners moved his shop’s location at considerable expense, “specifically to avoid vandalism and other issues that a giant swastika will bring to a business.”

Some of his customers interpreted his move as “an anti-Palestine thing, which I’m not at all,” Stolzenberg said. “But I’m also just not anti-Jew, nor pro-swastika.”

Asked his views on the Mehlers’ case, he added, “I think that if I were Jewish, there would be no other option than to tear down the giant swastika mural.”

Atta installed the mural in place of a previous one erected in memory of Breonna Taylor, a Black woman shot by police in Louisville, Kentucky, in 2020 who became a symbol of nationwide racial justice protests that year.

After the first vandalism of the mural, by a local woman, Milwaukee’s city council issued a statement condemning the image as “hurtful and divisive” and saying that it “is not welcome in our community.”

“Some people look for any excuse to wave a swastika,” the council members wrote in their Sept. 14 statement. “It has long been a symbol of intolerance and hatred, designed to psychologically injure and oppress those who are different.” The council member who represents the district where the mural was located did not return a request for comment.

Atta also did not respond to requests for comment made through an intermediary. But he has consistently defended his mural, including at a press conference he held at the site shortly after the Mehlers tore it down. The conference was called by the Wisconsin Coalition for Justice in Palestine, whose co-chair is Atta’s sister.

“It was an artistic way of expressing the current genocide that is being perpetrated against the Palestinian people by Israel and which is being supported by our government and funded with our tax dollars,” Atta said of the mural at the event. He said the Star of David on the mural was not a Jewish symbol but instead pulled from the flag “of an apartheid regime” as a political symbol.

Adopting language popularized in large part by Meir Kahane, the far-right Jewish extremist, as a response to the Holocaust, he added, “It is a statement to say that ‘never again’ means never again for anyone.”

Several of his supporters wore black T-shirts emblazoned with the mural’s swastika design at the event, which was also attended by local members of the anti-Zionist group Jewish Voice for Peace.

Yet even JVP, which tends to back Palestinian-led protests that many other Jews find offensive and even antisemitic, acknowledged the mural’s provocations.

“We understand why it’s polarizing,” the Milwaukee chapter, which is a member of the pro-Palestinian coalition, wrote in a lengthy Instagram statement posted just prior to the mural’s destruction. “There is a legitimate critique that can be made about it, particularly concerning the language of the mural implying that Jews, whom the Nazis persecuted and exterminated during the Holocaust, have become oppressors not unlike the Nazis in regards to Zionism and Palestine.”

The statement, which the chapter’s co-founder, Rachel Ida Buff, read at the press conference, added, “It should be made abundantly clear that Judaism and Zionism are two different things, but it understandable how someone might read the mural as conflating the two.”

But the statement went on to conclude that Israel’s behavior was “far more reprehensible and antisemitic” than the mural, and that “it is not our or anyone else’s place to police Palestinians as they express their pain through creative means.”

Local JVP chapter co-founder Rachel Ida Buff, a history professor at UWM who is Jewish, told JTA she personally believed the mural “was meant to generate conversation, which it succeeded in doing.”

Buff added, “If seeing the image of a swastika in River West upsets people more than the images of murdered children coming out of Gaza, that is a moral problem.”

What upset Peter Mehler most when he saw the mural, he said, was thinking about his former congregants, many of them Holocaust survivors, at the synagogues he led in Sheboygan, Wisconsin, and Northbrook, Illinois.

“I was really outraged,” he said. “For them, this would have been extremely traumatic. And it was traumatic for me, too, to watch this guy take the Star of David and make it into a swastika.”

He rejected any comparisons between the Gaza war and the Holocaust.

“The war in Israel is nothing like the Holocaust, and I am offended by the idea that the Palestinians have turned this into us as offenders when they, in fact, were the attackers,” he said. “You know, once they attacked, then they have to realize that they opened up Pandora’s box, and anything that Israel did, they were responsible for.”

Both men said their activism had almost taken a dangerous turn when the bystander accosted them while they were ripping down the mural. The man “said to me, ‘You don’t know what you’re talking about. You don’t know what genocide is. Describe genocide to me,’” Peter Mehler recalled.

The exchange triggered him, and he said he considered hitting the man with his hammer. But Zechariah said he “explained to my father that our methodology was not one that was intended to be aggressive.”

The bystander, Michael Gauthier, shared a similar account of the encounter during the Wisconsin Coalition for Justice in Palestine press conference. “I stood here on this curb and there was an angry man screaming in my face, waving a hammer, saying he was going to hit me with it,” he recalled. “Thank God that didn’t happen. Thank God his partner in crime talked him down a little bit.”

Family members tried to discourage Peter from joining his son in the first place, citing his health, both Mehlers said. But he insisted.

“It’s the responsibility of a rabbi to be the symbol of true north for the Jewish community,” Peter Mehler said. “We’ve got a symbol of antisemitism hung on a wall, and not anybody will speak out about it.”

Both father and son say they’re prepared to go to jail over their actions. Peter insisted things wouldn’t come to that and vowed to appeal any penalty. Zechariah, meanwhile, said he would relish the attention such a sentence would bring.

“You know what’ll happen if they put me in jail for this? Oh my God, then every Jewish organization would be on it,” he said. “Alan Dershowitz would be here. They don’t want that.”

[weemietime]

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WARNING! VERY Long ask ahead. I’m very very sorry. You can delete this lol.

thank you so much for your kind words. Honestly, the most shocking part was that this all happened at seven in the morning.

Yes, they dm-ed me all the racist nonsense at 7 AM. To be fair, I made all of my IG story posts the night before, but still. Seven is quite a bit too early to exhibit racism and xenophobia (I’m also an African immigrant and he had much to say about that lol). I think he was triggered by my posts about the Amsterdam pogrom (and the following antisemitic incidents in Amsterdam and Paris that have occurred after the football match incident, I don’t know if that can all collectively be counted as one massive pogrom spanning days or just multiple antisemitic attacks continuously occurring??? Idk) because the perpetrators of the acts of violence at the football match happened to include Muslims and Arabs (not all of them, but quite a lot) and he himself is a Lebanese American, so I guess I can see why he would automatically be triggered by them, but I never singled out Arabs or Muslims.

The posts simply pointed out antisemitic rhetoric and that what happened was indeed a pogrom, even if nobody passed on. They said nothing about Arabs or Muslims really. Maybe the post by rootsmetals giving a timeline of the current conflict (7 Oct and further back in time), but nothing blaming anyone.

These are the posts in shared in no particular order.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DA8_KvxSntl/?

https://www.instagram.com/p/DCGkT9rtuaj/?

https://www.instagram.com/p/DCGCgoHyygI/?

https://www.instagram.com/p/C89bXG_tmBg/?

https://www.instagram.com/p/DCKpAdBNM7l/?

He got upset at the post stating that (not word for word) people (leftists mainly) are more comfortable eagerly calling out racism when it comes to every other group that isn’t Jewish people as well.

He tried to rebut by saying that we learn about the holocaust in schools, so therefore we learn more about Jews that anyone else (even though when schools teach the holocaust, they don’t exactly focus on the victims of it, they mainly talk about the Nazis and their methods so… he’s still wrong lol. I also told him that in the US we mainly learn about the holocaust because the US was directly involved with WW2, so you really mainly get taught about it because it’s US history… not because the school system cares about Jewish people lol)

He then proceeded to say to me, a black African, in no particular order:

“you’re just as bad as the colonisers you hate”

(in reference to the post by that_semite, I suppose he was triggered by the mention of “free Palestine” in that post). I tend to talk a lot about the effects of colonialism on the African continent when discussing politics with my friends so this text from a “friend” was interesting to wake up to first thing in the morning.

“It’s crazy being from *insert African country* and using a domesticated mindset”

(‘domesticated’ is a particularly interesting term to use, as if I’m a dog. Also, why am I being put into a box because I’m African? Am I not allowed to be a free thinker or am I only allowed to think certain things due to where I’m from?)

“you are letting European viewpoints overcome”

Again, how is calling out antisemitism a European viewpoint? Am I supposed to shut up about it?

“you’re blaming antisemitism on the Palestinian movement”

I never did that. Ever. Calling out antisemitism that’s in the movement is not blaming antisemitism on that movement.

called me a “racist and a coloniser/genocide sympathiser”

not once in our conversation did I even mention Israelis, the people he is calling colonisers. I do not personally think Israelis are colonisers, but even then. Am I supposed to ignore that they were attacked after the football match? I also never said anything about Arabs, I don’t know how calling out antisemitic makes me a racist.

said that I was “over victimising Jews to push an agenda”

No comment. Deep sigh.

said that I was “attacking Palestinian resistance by pretending that it was a pogrom”

No comment. Deeper sigh. He actually spelled it “program” though, which was quite funny.

couldn’t respond when I asked him to name any other antisemitic attack/event or events other than the holocaust. Are we surprised?

Said that I was “using Jewish hate to spawn hate on other groups”

No comment. Deepest sigh.

Tried to demean me by calling me “girly” in the middle of argument. I’m not in the mood to explain why calling a black person “girl” or “boy” or any variation of that to demean them is racist, but yeah. I’ll leave this here though. https://www.wlrn.org/news/2017-05-15/black-women-on-being-called-girl-in-the-workplace

Half of the people in our friend group unfollowed me after my IG story posts. I’m expecting the rest to unfollow me when they go online.

Am I surprised that he turned out to be racist? No. I had an inkling about it, I just wasn’t expecting to actually be right.

And all of this happened at seven in the morning. That’s the worst part, I think.

WOOF that's a Whole Fucking Lot to unpack at any time of day, let alone when you just wake up.

Sad to say from what you've shared it sounds like this dude has been fully radicalized into a lot of xenophobic gibberish, and he spares no time throwing as many people under the bus as humanly possible on his way to run over Jews.

It sucks immensely that you wound up taking the brunt of it, but I hope you do take some solace from 1) at least this moron showed his true colors so you can take out the trash, and 2) being able to say you stuck to your ideals and spoke up against harmful rhetoric.

No matter what your opinion of Israel and Palestine, an ethnic conflict spanning literal centuries with a high degree of confusion and nuance throughout that lends to further complexity, "it's wrong for a grown man to beat up up a 14 year old for being Jewish" should not be an extremist sentiment.

Our political atmosphere today has gotten absolutely bat shit when it comes to polarizing views, but it says a lot about that guy that he clearly does not view others around him as fully fledged human beings. The dehumanizing shit he levied at you in particular is fucking berserk, and I'm sorry your other "friends" didn't see any problem with it, either.

[jewish-vents]

I lost my best friend of 25 years over this conflict. She was being purposely cagey about it because she didn't want to lose me, and knew she would. On the 7th itself when I turned to my best friend to help me through my grief and terror she just said "I'm not the right person to discuss this with. I'm getting on a plane. Can't talk. Bye."

And she left me to burn

I probably should have known it then. She told me she didn't want to talk about it because I might think she's antisemitic, as that's the pressing thing when the world just declared it's intent to hunt and kill me in horrible ways.

"I can't relate but I support you, but please don't talk about it with me."

How is that support?

And how could I talk about anything else?

And then she changes the subject to someone saying something minor to her at work which set her into a crying fit, because she makes it a priority to tell me she bursts into tears 4 times a day every day so I can't ever have too strong of a negative emotion or it will set her off.

And then she told me she loves me but she can't say she likes Jews because "I haven't met all the other Jews." As though she'd ever say that to a Black friend about their entire people. She is the Most Progressive, you see, she is Very Aware Of Her White Privilege and stuff. She works with immigrants and would sooner jump off a bridge than give off a whiff of bigotry towards them.

But I'm a Jew.

She finally tells me she doesn't support Israeli striking back because there's children being hit. She hasn't seen any evidence to justify Israel's response. I ask to show her some. She refuses. You see she gets to have her uninformed opinion, gets the luxury of staying that way, she can just change the subject, I'm The Jew, that's my Jewish business.

My pain has always been her concern but not when it's Jew-related. I'm to hide that lest she burst into tears.

I gradually stop talking to her. She sends me anxious messages saying "I'm not sure if I can even ask how you are or if that's any of my business"

This from the woman who purposely made it not her business, DEMANDED it not be her business, and now she sniffing around like a hungry dog after telling me to just ignore it, that it's just online, that I should **uwu** watch my cortisol **uwu**

You need cortisol, I say, when you're being hunted. Sometimes cortisol is called for. She starts crying. How could I say that. She can't talk about this. It's too much for her. My cortisol is just too much for her. So now I have to shut up, because she's crying.

No one hunting her but she's crying

It felt like she was just hoping to wait around, have her private antisemitism, like she could hide her eyes from me, like I couldn't read her judging silence and her quiet insistence that though she admittedly knew nothing she certainly knew better than ME what was right. And if we get close, boom. Tears.

I felt so talked down to and invalidated. When I brought this up she said "I validate you" like that's a magic spell, you can just say the magic words AND that will cure neglect.

I finally blew up at her and of course there was big manipulative tears because how DARE I think she might have bigotry and how DARE I draw away from her after she made it clear she had no interest in my pain, after she tried so so so hard to hide it and used all the gentle parenting language she learned in her DEI courses to placate me, the Hysterical Jew.

I will always hate myself for apologizing to her for being angry, for my big violent emotions she would have preferred to ignore until I get over my weird Jewish thing, so I can get back to being the person she can subtly look down on and be holier than, and so she can cry to me, and cry, and cry, and cry, because someone gave her a minor correction at work and not because she's being hunted for being a Jew.

We should be able to disagree about politics, she says. We can't disagree about my existence and basic safety, I say. You don't deserve to be bathed in hate, get offline, she says.

They vandalized my synagogue. They attacked my friend's daughter on campus. That's awful, she says. I don't support that. Anyway, at work today -

We don't talk anymore. Haven't for months. Don't know if we ever will again. I've been angry at her every day. I feel like I let her get away with it. She gets to go out into the world feeling like she's right and Israel is evil and she used to have a Jewish friend who turned out to be craaaazy, it's terrible what Zionism does to those people. I'm sure she'll get clout at her super leftist workplace where she can never be progressive enough. Where she helps put DEI policies in schools and libraries that treat antisemitism as though it's a non-problem.

I'm just another oppressor-class Jew to her. Couldn't center her over my Jew Issues

I'm so angry at her and so angry at myself for not handling it better, for holding back, for indulging her crocodile tears and handling her with kid gloves, for not calling her out for manipulating me into muting my truth and thinking I'm so dumb that she could just refuse to address it, like I wouldn't know, for expecting me to just "get over" my people being slaughtered, for needing her and then sticking around long after she left me to die

.

[jewreallythinkthat]

Hey there! (possible tw of antisemitism/hate speech?) I'm not Jewish (I'm Unitarian) but is it wrong of me / overstepping? to get angry at a friend of mine for being like I don't trust Jewish people with everything going on and I'm just like HUH???? And I haven't messaged him in days. And someone told me that I'm overstepping y'alls boundaries by being like no that was really mean of him wtf, and I have like paranoia issues so I'm like aaaah?? Of course I'm not wanting to make it about me, I just want to make sure I'm not overstepping boundaries and how could I even approach this in the future bc now I'm like wtf???? Idk, I'm just mad for Jewish people, love u guys. 🫂

Calling out racism is never overstepping. Whomever told you otherwise is being an idiot. No one would ever accept someone saying they don't trust PoC or they don't trust Muslims or they don't trust *literally any other minority group in a region*.

Out of interest was the person who said you were overstepping jewish? If they aren't, I'd be wary of anything they say since they seem perfectly happy to let racism spread. If they were, then I honestly dont understand why they would say that. We need people standing up for us in rooms we aren't in. There are literally not enough of us to stand up for ourselves no matter how much we want to because there are too many voices shouting us down.

If you do want to push back, and honestly it's up to you if you think it would achieve anything or you just dont want to talk to this person anymore, I would ask them to explain why they don't trust Jews. What's their reasoning and can they justify why they think it's acceptable to say something so overtly racist? Jews are literally being attacked in the streets, beaten to unconsciousness on university campuses, abducted and potentially raped in "revenge for Palestine" in France. I think Jewish people have every right to be wary of people and a lot of us have lost patience for letting things slide.

I think many people are upset that they are being called out for things they say that they should have been called out for years ago because suddenly they can't say they aren't racist, so instead of changing their behaviour, they simply demonize Jews and say that we accuse anyone who says something we don't like of antisemitism, and then they try to explain to us what the hatred we have experienced really is despite them being the perpetrators.

From my experience, the best way to shut down this sort of behaviour is ask the person to explain it and don't them gloss over it. Dig, and push and force them to explain their real reasoning and then at least you can make a more informed decision about where to take it from there.

Sending hugs x

(if anyone on jumblr wants to add to this, please do. I've made a few generalisations for my personal experience but as always, I'd love to know if you guys have different views)

[f0point5]

This may be completely left of field so don't answer this if you don't want to, but I'm pissed off and need to get this off my chest. Im sick of this f1 community and there "activism". Ive gotta give some context to what im going on about, this is regarding f1 fans and their continued belief that they are right and the drivers should be so left winged and hippie esque people.

Firstly regarding lewis and his OG insta story about the Palestine/isreal war, from my view point that wasn't taking sides that was asking for a ceasefire and peace FOR ALL. All these f1 fans and lewis fans think he's some amazing top tier moral belief guy, but he still hangs out and according to them dating some Brazilian model who has and continues to post pro isreal content, supposedly going agaisnt boy/friend lewis' moral beliefs as according to his fans. So if he's so morals based and is stance on his pro Palestine side according again to his fans who'll read anything the way they want for it to be portrayed why is he associated with her? Maybe because he's not as pro Palestine as these people think or maybe he's neutral but knew people would "rely on him" 🙄 to be the "political humanitarian" driver 🙄 nothing wrong with using your platform for the better but stop with God esque stature.

Side bar lewis' friend Shaun White settled a law suit with a alleged victim over sexual harassment claims in 2018... no one talks about that huh? Bit high horse there huh lewis. Friends with a dude who settled a lawsuit and even admitted of doing some of the alleged wrongdoings but talking high and mighty about the Christian Horner situation.

And this leads me to where my real pissed off postion comes from, lando getting ripped to shreds on tikotk for having a Starbucks drink. God forbid. "Starbucks supports a genocide" "boycott starbucks" okay but why in my town are they still packed to the rafters at each location? God forbid the man gets a drink. Honestly. These fucking fans will call out everything becuase they are in the right in everything they believe but not for one minute think about peace or just not bringing politics into everything, I've been told to shut the fuck up when I mention some genuine Antisemitism rooted hatred against lance and told I'm reaching and a Zionist bitch but these fuckers are so quick to call out lando for a fucking drink. Sometimes maybe these drivers just don't give a fuck or maybe they have personal political opinions that don't align with yours so stop thinking your in the right about every God damn thing. Lando can drink whatever the fuck he wants, the teams can have puma as there sponser, it's not that fucking deep. You wanna call out drivers for there comments on the CH issue, call out lewis for being friends with a dude just like that!!!! If you wanna say that's the standard for men than fuck me I'd rather die.

Yeah, all this.

Rip lando and his Starbucks because newsflash maybe the guy is not chronically online and doesn’t know about the Twitter mob boycott…or he just doesn’t care about his two Aussie dollars going against the Twitter mob boycott.

The witch-hunt really does make me laugh. When you realise that morality is arbitrary, it becomes borderline scary how we now encourage shaming and bullying people who don’t agree with the accepted wisdom. It’s so…1600s.

Literally just…you’re right. You’re 100% right.