#and apPARENTLY theyre a proshipper

[meejijis]

"Why are all SK fans proshippers" Silence fetus

[continuousmeowing]

ough i hate tiktok and its users so much.

[just-antithings]

proshippers r funny to me because of the degree to which yall just lie. "we always tag our content correctly" no the fuck you dont ive been in the world you cannot trick me, trying to filter out all the ""shotacon"" when i still used ao3 was a nightmare because even when it wasnt split between 2293809 different euphemisms which changed frequently as everyone else started realizing "old man/younger man" was being used for like a 6 year old kid instead of age gaps between adults which outside of your roleplay most people do have a different stance on than pedophilia, and people constantly just posting 5 yr old/20 yr old porn ageddown porn of canon adults with zero relevant tags. this has been my experience in all of fandom, telling a proshipper that they need to avoid posting untagged graphic rape porn in tags for shounen is apparently as painful as having your leg sawed off from how people react to it. you have posts insisting that it is at all reasonable for an ao3 user who doesnt want to see pedophilia should simply filter out every possible shotacon ship which is what i did so i can tell you thats incredibly unreasonable because that number is generally in the thousands, doesn't count as "tagging correctly", and also DOESN'T WORK because again people will just not tag shit or do agedown porn without tagging it so you can be in the tag of a ship for characters who are 50 and 60 in canon when lo and behold AU porn where the older one is babysitting the younger one and theyre 20 and 10, no tags except "Au - babysitter". like tbc i do think that even if you have the minimum balls to tag your adult raping a kid porn "pedophilia" you should still be criticized for that which i know the main conceit of the anti anti movement is pretending is worse than murder, but its wild how often people let yall just lie that tagging correctly is the universal or even a common standard. thats not even getting into the fact that ao3 doesn't let you select tags to automatically filter so you have to type in every individual tag you want out every single time you do a search. but no everyone should have to spend 4 hours theorizing every possible way you could weasel words your way around describing an adult having sexual intercourse with a child and then individually type em all in just so they can see read old men fucking without one of them being turned into a middle schooler. like with every other anit anti talking point it runs into the ultimate problem that yall are lazy assholes who are in this community in the first place because youre so allergic to compassion you can only tolerate people esp children if youre jacking off to them and so any measure yall claim you take for the good of others is ultimately a lie. also i still havent forgotten all those times you defended irl pedophilia or that one time you said you had a kneejerk reaction to discredit someone talking about a case study of irl csa by defending the pedophile and blamed "antis" instead of the fact that you spend all day every day defending being attracting to children. which is much worse, obviously

[bakiuwu]

Imagine saying someone posting screenshots to prove themselves innocent cause someone made a fucking alt to spread a fucjing child grooming rumor stupid ass internet beef, are yall slow do yall know how serious that shit, do you know how fucked up it is to be minding your business and for someone to hate you to make up a fucked rumor??? This literally fucking harassment I'm defending myself and showing how actually fucked people in this fuckinf fandom is, also to make a post about something then to throw fucking shade are fucking unserious

Then, on top of all this bullshit to have someone admit that they did it...and a person who I haven't a gave a fuck and even forgot abiut FUCKING YANDERE MOMO ARE YOU SHITING ME, YOU LITERALLY HAVE ME BLOCKED AND YOUR STARTIGN SHIT??? being on apart of this stupid ass scheme l.....WHY cause you don't like me over some baki shit??? YOUR 23 HAVING A DAMN 15 YEAR OLD DOING YOUR SHIT, ARE YOU SURE YOUR NOT THE DAMN GROOMER WERID PICE OF SHIT Why are you close with a damn 15 year older who happens to be a fucking proshipper who has drawn cp before you fucking bitch, it's already bad you write rape fanfics BUT THIS no wonder you were able to make uo such a rumor, you self-progecting cunt

ALSO FOR YOU SAINT FUCK ASS PUPPY TO PLAY THIS OFF LIKE ITS A JOKE??? HATE YOU??? I DONT EVEN KNOW YOU I AXTUALLY FEEL SORRY FOR YOU, YOUR A KID CLEARY SURROUND BY WERID ASS ADULTS, I DONT KNOW ANY OF YOU PEOPLE??? AND YOUR DAMN LIE YOU HAVE HARRSED ME AND MY FRIEND BEFORE YALL CAN NOT BE SERIOUS

Then too pussy to even say anything to me cause WHAT YOUR SCARED OF ME OR SOMETHING??? WTF YOUR A SPINELESS PIECE OF ACTUALLY SHIT, then to act like your changing a new leaf cause you decide to tell WHEN YOU BEEN DOING THIS FOR SOME TIME APPARENTLY, ARE YOU THAT BOTHER BY ME.....what happen to people having a fucking life, your so mad at someone that get a proshipper 15 year old to help your GROWN ASS to make up a fucking child grooming rumor.....that is the most Pathetic loser shit I have ever witnessed, then for this to be played off like this not serious......this fandom is really fucked up,

I don't even do anything all I do is post dumbass shit.....this actually funny....I have no words....so agian if you actually think any of this is silly internet beef.....there's something wrong with you, I feel like people think shit on the internet isn't serious like you can say and do whatever they pls and think nobody should call them out for theyre dangerous behavior this is very serious shit like this can ruin someone's fucking life....this is the last thing I have to say....this so disgusting

[yin-shimo]

Collective (and final) Post

- because I'll be deleting the previous posts and hoping this singular one is good enough for everyone.

Let's get the biggest issue out of the way,

Yes, I am a proshipper and no i don't care how you feel about it. As always, please feel free to block me now and not bother to read the rest, its the reason i was open about being one in the first place.

I never cared i was banned from yoonie's server. i never talked in it and i wasn't there to make friends. I was in there solely to see if they said anything about me and yeah they did. You can go crazy and call me a stalker for that too, I get it. What they said is irrelevant (such as my cc, i don't know why its made out to seem like im upset abt that..) to why im upset, i just disliked them viewing my account like stalkers even tho none followed or liked me. Thats it. I would have never called out names etc if yoonnie hadnt vague posted me.

secondly, for all the csa and sa mentions and me supposedly posting weird ships or whatever. Please, please actually scroll through my account and show me where i have EVER talked about any ships (aside from wx), posted images abt the topic, or anything similar.

while youre at it, please show me where it was that i failed to tag such 'problematic' nsfw posts. you do know i only tag them with #xian: spice, my oc tags and occasionally #simspice, right? My pinned says im an 18+ blog, my description says 18+ only, how many warnings are expected of me?

next, where and when did i ever interact with anyone, especially from that clique, that made them so uncomfortable? it couldnt be in yoonie's server. i didnt talk about my self or interests and no one ever posted in the nsfw channel of my own server when it existed. so again, it couldnt be there either. I dont even interact with minors on discord or tumblr!

please, please understand that i KNOW there are many many topics people arent comfortable with (i have some too) and theyre 100% valid! especially to block/unfollow me for! Aside from one recent render, I have never posted anything worth a CW (and the render is properly tagged with #cw: implied abuse) and if i do again, it will always have the proper CW. I am not trying to trigger anyone.

If somehow, my pfp, description, etc, is enough to trigger you, please please just stay away from my account for your own sake. and the yarichin argument is weak and only proves the people so uncomfortable and 'triggered' by me apparently still look at my page and saw my current pfp lol

the only post that will be left is the ask i answered showing how harmful corona 'jokes' are towards all asians whether theyre chinese or not

[socks-wizard-money-gang]

I can make you a pride icon if you want

My epic gamer art fight profile

DNI+Other things under the cut(at least read what's in red pls)

So yeah, my name's Socks and I'll rather be addressed as he/she/it/star+other neos, I'm also ok with most gendered therm but if you're not sure just calls me whatever I'll tell u if I don't like it. Use feminine and masculine pronouns interchangeably in french and other gendered languages plz

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Here's my full list of neos and other things

I create drawings like fruit

Digital art is made on the weekends and the only drawings you can reasonably expect from me is nilfruits characters and my fursona

Things I do in my free time/I've did out of boredom include: digital and traditional art, made a vtuber model, painting, photography, cosplaying/sewing, made bracelets, translation (only french/english), playing guitar, lockpicking and archery. I am hobby georg

If you need anything translated from french to english or the other way around feel free to ask translation is really fun ^^

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Ask me phylosophical shit like the meaning of life and I for sure have an answer

Also if you want to send me hate mail feel free!! I like laughing at it

Despite being a guitarist I am the number one bass and bassists fan

Don't follow me if you can't handle occasional vent posts

Don't be fooled by my blog I'm still a furry at heart

I love when people infodump and ramble in my inbox itz so interesting

Memory issues

If I complain about something and its not tagged as a vent then that means I'm not that upset about it

If I do seem upset the best thing you could do is give me a distraction if you wanna help

Don't involve me in discourse I will explode

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I also have a SUPER MEGA GIGA SECRET pokemon irl blog, try finding it:)

Here I'll be putting hints for it: eel

I also have @the-artificer who just kinda exist

I have autism adhd n I'm personality disorder georg at this point

I'm plural too now apparently??? Some of my headmates are at @bar0ness and @n0mann . You're normally only gonna see me post here tho

I'm a minor

Don't sexualise my ocs pls

I like these thangs->Warrior Cat(barely, I don't even catch up), Mad rat dead, madoka magica, Kirby, the Stanley parable, pafl, biblically accurate angels, sparklecats, Dead plate, Pokemon, Vocaloid but mainly whatever nilfruits characters got going on, OFF, ENA, Cuphead, pjsekai, milgram, Splatoon, bocchi the rock, cult of the lamb, sonic, rain world, and Omori(I don't support omocat), please talk to me about them (there will also be spoiler for all of these)

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Tagging system:

#Paradichlorobenzene is my favorite word:text posts

#random/#rambling: text posts from 2022 to 2023

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#rb: reblog

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#oc:[insert name]:the mentioned OC's tag

#utsu p characters lore: me making shit up about the characters in utsu-p song because I love his music but the lack of narrative to be abnormal about is sickening so I made the narrative myself

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I also got two personas who are very cools

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And that's it I think

[confessions-official]

i keep thinking about this one person i used to know on twitter back in 2020-2021 back when puppychan was being harrassed by transphobes

they were a system who was at first harrassed by one of those "fake system cringe" subreddits, but then they started to defend the use of nazi labels on the 4chan design on one of those app human designs, then they had been racist to a korean person (though apparently the dms couldve been faked? but a glitch like that was possible? dont actually take full word for this im just discussing what events happened that made me recall that person got into specifically), had obbessed over a youtuber / musician they liked to the point of faking grooming aligations and made nsfw of their avatar, had traced art by someone else who had done alot of personal pieces, and *apparently* had a tiktok account that showed people how to racefake being japanese (but iirc the evidence on that is really flimsy)

after this i found out they had made a post about killing everyone who left them for being problematic, and me being 14 i decided to come back into their life for abit, i dont exactly remember what led to this but the last time i was 100% in contact w this person they were suibaiting publically before deactivating

at some point i discovered a google slideshow someone made about this person, i dont know how, but it was directed at their mother, i dont actually know if they sent it to their mom but that just feels so werid (and they mentioned that they mightve faked a speech imediment? which is like ok, whyd you save those videos?)

last time i knew 2 years ago they were a proshipper account and some other doc was released, i cant find it anymore and its probably for the best

but they were 12 at the start of this, i hope theyre doing better, or atleast learnt from that behavior, its been 4 years, i feel so torn cuz i genuially remembered having a blast w this person but yknow, with all of this, i just really hope they got the help they deserve

one thing i will say is that i once found an imgur post with screenshots from them as some typeof evidence or whatever, and i was featured on there as like a friend replying (back then alot of us did this thing where we went "boobs on the tl" and everyone would go "OMG WHERE???" n spam the replies, and i was the latter in the screenshot) which stuck in my mind for some reason

 

[bring-us-back-light]

you turned off reblogs so i couldnt reply, @socalgal

which is fine, if you dont want to continue the discussion, you dont need to reply. but i am entitled to responding. im not entitled to you reading it, feel free to ignore it!

i really respect and appreciate you listening and having this discussion, but i think theres still a miscommunication or misunderstanding.

one thing thats become apparent to me, is theres a conflation of underlying topics that i dont know how to segregate. because theyre super intertwined. one is pedophilia, which to persecute is thought crime. the other is pornographic content of not real kids (such as writing or drawings, but not photographs or videos of real kids). which my stance is that creation of is ethically neutral and non harmful and therefore shouldnt be disallowed. rather reading it can be harmful such as when someone with relevant trauma gets retraumatized, or can be harmful to send it to others such as in the case of grooming. but in none of these scenarios is the harmful act creating it or posting it, nor is the party causing harm the author (unless the author is also the person retraumatizing themselves, or the person grooming a kid). even if a fic isnt tagged properly and someone stumbled across it and reads without informed consent, the harmful action was not giving the proper warnings. not posting it in yhe first place.

im not sure what group the rest of your reply is about. proshippers and pedophiles are very different groups. obviously its a venn diagram just like marine biologist and submariner is, but they are still distinct groups.

children will always be able to access porn. i think this is smth people try to avoid acknowledging, but its true. and i dont honestly think its the end of the world? like whats important is that kids (and anyone tbh) have support when they get ahold of things that made them uncomfortable and can get help processing stuff when needed. and that, separately, kids are given good educations about consent, sex ed, what interaction with other people is appropriate, and have safe trusted adults they can go to with questions or to seek advice if someone or something seems unsafe. kids are going to experiment with eachother. kids are going to look up and watch porn. kids may even look up tabboo porn. so long as they know that adults doing things to or with them is inappropriate and to get help, and they get support for processing anything they find troubling, they will be fine and not harmed by access to this stuff.

'suffering with pedophilic tendencies' not sure exactly what this means. pedophilia, once again, is attraction. not a behavior. tendencies, to me, obscures that distinction. but regardless they can literally just write their own. them being able to find it is not the authors problem. it is theirs for looking it up if it is harmful to them. grooming kids is the problem. not posting the fic or drawings. people will make their own content or groom kids without the use of fic or drawings.

we dont need to facilitate safe spaces, because people have that already in their room. people dont need access to clean needles or clean porn or controlled amounts to avoid overdosing, or stds, or poisoning. there is none of that involved in consuming porn. if there is a real human cost to jeffrey posting a pedophilic porn fic properly tagged, and janice jacking off to it in her room, please elaborate it to me. im open to being wrong. but you cant use slippery slope (consuming it is a gateway to causing harm) without substantiating evidence (which ive looked for so hard. please if you are aware of this please share it with me. i do not want people harmed and imo this is one of if not the main foundation of why i think my stance holds water). or false cause (someone using a posted fic to groom a kid. that did not happen because someone posted the fic it happened becuaee someone groomed the kid),

sorry that got really messy, rewording without parentheticals: i am open to being proven wrong or convinced otherwise that the act of creating porn featuring underaged character(s) and posting it with proper content warnings is ethically neutral and non harmful. But you have to prove that it is inherently harmful, so you cant depend on logical fallacies commonly used in this discussion like false cause or slippery slope.

also 'whatever nomenclature' youre referring to two different groups of people. so cant specify which you mean, but ive defined pedophile plenty of times.

and in response to your final paragraph: people do things all the time that should not be forced on others. vanilla adult porn shouldnt be posted on billboards. consenting adults shouldnt fuck on the subway (unless i suppose everyone in the car is consenting and you finish before the next stop i guess???). these are things that have the potential to be harmful, but are not in and of themselves. just like pedophilic porn.

[trollocs-ooc]

hey proship anons can yall stfu!!!!! this is a grumblr ooc blog and not a ship discourse blog!!! take the discourse elsewhere and let this cool fucking guy (/gen) enjoy some silly gray people??!!!

LITERALLY??? THIS ISNT EVEN MY MAIN?? i literally just said "i got followed by 2 proshippers where are they coming from" after i had already blocked them. AND THAT WAS APPARENTLY SO TRIGGERING TO THIS RANDOM PERSON THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ME THAT THEY COME TO ARGUE FOR NO REASON IN MY INBOX???? And theyre acting like i massacred their whole family??? BITCH WHATTTTT

[iloveartaaa]

Its so fucking weird to see people who think proshippers are evil/pedos (i'm not in any of this shit, but yall calm tf down)

Are usually the ones who create mafia au fics and say theyre hot, suave, rich like, yall know its a real thing right???

People got killed bc of them. Yall know theyre abusers, theyre not allies with gay people, they use and blackmail them to out them.

If youre going to have the ideology that fiction affects reality. Then why are you romanticizing the mafia??? Why do you not do fucking research of the real thing.

"but everyone knows mafia is evil" UHM. SO DOES P3DOPHILIA??? but no apparently this is fine?!??

Like dont get me wrong. I see the appeal. And if my friend loves it then its their business.

But dont be a fucking hypocrite.

[darkartistyt]

(i put the bad shit under a cut mostly because every time I see it, i wanna bleach my eyes... dw tho, its just a screenshot of the relationship tags on ao3)

i'm only ankle deep into the pl fandom, but i already have a love-hate relationship with it, especially the shipping and fanfic side

on one hand, ive read amazingly written fics before, from short hurt/comfort to incredible works like Frigid Melody to a whole series centered around a single au

on the other hand...

HOW?! DOES LAYLUKE?! HAVE MORE THAN RANLAY?!

AND DESLAY IS WAY TO FUCKING CLOSE ISTG

[clockworkcheetah]

it sucks when the popular ship in a fandom youre in is also considered v problematic so the tag is just spammed with people complaining about it

[fdq666roadie-blog]

that post u reblogged about antis… ur straight up weird bro. if u think being against pedophilia, incest, and abusive relationships (fictional or not, because fiction still has a heavy impact on real life and makes irl pedos and abusers think what theyre doing is fine) is some sort of solely american purity ‘trend’, ur seriously sick dude. why do you think any of that stuff is okay?? proshippers are gross, ur gross for supporting that shit

Being a proshipper doesn't mean I support those things IRL tho. Try to look up the actual definition of proshipping instead. Proshipping means you don't care what other people ship and you're agaisnt censorship. That is the actual definition.

Proshipping has nothing to do with shipping pedophilic content. That's some bullshit antishippers have been spreading around.

Less than two years ago, I testified in court against a pedophile, so don't tell me I support that when I know full well I don't. I've never written nor read any fics involving minors because I don't like that stuff. But I don't go around harassing those who do read and write it. That's what makes me a proshipper.

Calling everybody a pedophile is just watering down the severity of actual pedophilia. Instead of targeting someone who writes as a hobby, why not focus your energy on actual proven child molesters and actually do something to help victims instead?

And I do honestly belive the majority of antishippers are American people under the age of 25. I don't know why. Maybe because of the way sex is taught as something terrible over there in schools, if taught at all. I don't know. I'm not American.

And you say fiction heavily impacts real life. Give me some examples? I don't see any news articles about every single Game of Thrones fan suddenly engaging in incest or rape. I don't hear anything about horrormovie fans suddenly going on killing sprees after watching a movie at the cinema.

If you honestly believe reading a fic about rape will make you go out and rape someone, that means you're the one who has a problem. It means you believe you, yourself would do that. If you believe others would, then why not yourself? If you honestly believe that, then you should not be allowed to read or watch anything because you're the dangerous individual, not the person who wrote a fanfic.

Your logic doesn't make any sense, since there's countless of examples and research proving that plsying violent video games do not make a person violent. Watching movies that has teenagers engaging in any sexual activity does not make you a pedophile. So why is written content treated differently?

And howcome antis only go after no name fanfic writers who have a handfull of regular readers and not go after, say George RR Martin (who wrote a shit ton of incest and rape) or Stephen King (who wrote an orgy with pre-teen kids)? It's because your words wouldn't mean shit against an established writer, because everyone would just label you as a moron for trying to claim the author is a predator or sick individual. So instead, you go for the ones who don't have any way of defending themselves other than their own words.

That legit proves antishippers are nothing more than bullies, only choosing to target the ones they know they can harass without any consequences.

I've also seen antishippers who were all high and mightly on their pedestal condemning "problematic content" and then go right back to drawing or writing about monsters fucking human beings or worship their own favorite ship, who just happens to be a problematic ship. Apparently, it's only problematic if someone else creates something, not if they do it themselves. So to me, I see nothing else but bullying and hypocrasy.

You are fully allowed to dislike the content I make and the content others make, it's your right. But you do not have the right to police what they make or the right to bully them either.

You can call me disgusting and gross all you want, it doesn't make it true tho. So go ahead, keep living in your little bubble of hatred. I don't care, just try to realize, your perspective might not be the same as someone elses. Everyone are allowed to indulge in what they enjoy as long as no one is being harmed. And my stupid fics that are being read a few hundred times has harmed no one, so I really don't understand why you keep coming for me, but I guess you must live a really sad boring life if this is all you can spend your time doing.

[heartshapedskittles]

Hello! Not to bring up the whole goldie90 situation up again, but I saw they’re also friends with/interacted once with some pro shippers so that honestly kind of explains their behavior JEHSJSB idk if theyre proship or not but i wouldn’t be surprised ._.

It's ok no need to apologize!! I am genuinely not surprised that makes so much sense, I just find it hilarious since they have "proshippers dni" on their pinned post but I'm not surprised that they're apparently lying about that. Are u ok with sharing who they are just so that me and others can block them? If not that's ok /gen!!

[lesbincineroar]

hi sry i saw u rb’ed that ugly j/widle person, theyre a proshipper who ships all kinds of pedo/incest shit and they ship 16 yr old pucci with polnareff, jojo fandom is full of fucking freaks

AH HELL. thank you for telling me i hope they explode because this IS in fact apparent from their twitter now that i check it. if anyone rbd that pucci art from me can u please delete it.

[just-antithings]

Proshippers: antis dont care about irl minors

Proshippers: constantly harrass, give info about, and talk about minors even when said minors ask adults/pros to not do that

Including you. Leave minors alone. Even if theyre antis.

please give me an exact of where this blog has harassed anyone. I’ll wait

also I love how we’re apparently not allowed to call out people’s bad behavior if they’re a minor.