#the fact that so many antis keep on twisting the word proship so many times to the point where its widely misinterpreted and ppl
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"Why are all SK fans proshippers" Silence fetus
#text#mind you SK was released in a very different time period where fandoms back in the day were built different. freaks strived and#everyone back in the day followed fandom etiquette “ship and let ship” and “dont like dont read”. fandoms back in the old day were#peaceful and supported one another. ppl shipped anything and everyone and ppl minded their own business in the early 2000s#thats how almost all old sk veteran fans i know turn out to be what they are today#(ofc there are some. other veteran folks i do not fuck with as theyre also genuine assholes and are hypocrites/ostracizes others.#. but another discussion for another day lol. you must be a level 100+ of friendship to unlock my tragic sk fan backstory)#also news flash all of your favorite anime/manga stories are all written by profic ppl! thats right! everyone in japan are profic#shocking i know#japanese folks dont give a flying rat ass when it comes to FICTIONAL morals because they know how to differentiate between fic and reality#the fact that so many antis keep on twisting the word proship so many times to the point where its widely misinterpreted and ppl#nowadays esp the younger gen easily believe in the misinformation and keep repeating the cycle of misinformation in modern fandoms today#it pisses me off honestly#but yeah what did you expected from a old series that came out in the late 90s. the fact that theyre consuming the series when the series#itself also literally has problematic elements too lol#and see this is why im glad SK is niche despite that i wish it was popular so it can bring in more renmei fans but in the end its better of#being niche#because had it blown up it wouldve attracted all of the chronically online kids/puritans/fandom police and ruin everything for everyone#modern fandom today is the reason why all fandoms suck nowadays and its why i gave up joining and being part of them#theres discrimination everywhere in modern fandoms. oh your a proshipper? gtfo DNI and kys!!!!11111#its like theres eggshells everywhere no matter where you go. you have to abide with morality and puritanical rules its the “automatic” law#but fuck that thats never been the automatic law in fandoms lol. Ship and let ship AND dont like dont read is the real fandom laws here lol#but back to what i want to also say. theres nothing you can do about SK fans being proshippers. the old fans has always operated that way#since the old times. either adapt / cope with it OR you can just. block everyone and preserve your peace. which takes like 10 seconds#this is like maybe the 15th SK puritan fan i know lol. then again i also know theres ALOT of renmei antis who follow the puritan mindset#imao. I say this alot many times but SK fandom is only ugly and almost everyone becomes a puritan when renmei gets mentioned#which has always made me ????????????????? so yall can handle yoyo boy and anna teen preg can handle serg getting groomed/manipulated#by marc and xes laws can handle kids getting their arms and legs ripped off can handle kids getting killed left and right#can handle shipping bruce lee whos like plenty years older than JUN which btw beginning of the series she starts off being 17#but a 4 year age gap between ren and jeanne is too much apparently and should be cancelled. geez louise
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"Proshipper" is a Homonym
TL;DR for those of you who don't want to read: Both sides of this argument believe that the word "proshipper" means something entirely different, and it's because of the censorship push by people rehashing purity culture who don't understand that fiction doesn't become real life. --- Because I partake in fandom culture, I see anti vs proshipper discourse all the time. We all know it's there, and one of the biggest causes for that discourse is the fact that the term "proshipper" has evolved into a homonym.
A homonym is a word that has the same spelling and usually sounds same, but can be used to mean entirely different things when placed in a different context. A quick and easy example of this is the word "bark" which can refer to tree bark, or the sound a dog makes. Another is "watch," which can be used to tell the time or to tell someone to look at something.
Proshipper, is now one of these words.
Anyone who's ever done a deep dive into fandom culture knows that "proshipper" originally meant that someone was okay with shipping characters from the source material. The prefix "pro" means "for" or "forward," like in the word "progress" (to go forwards). There was then those who were against shipping characters from the source material, who called themselves "anti-shippers," later shorted to "antis." "Anti" means against or oposite of. It's fairly easy to keep track of, but I'm breaking down the prefixes of the words for a reason.
As fandom's began to explode in popularity, it was less easy to control what people could be exposed to, and what they wouldn't be. This angered certain people, and while I could get into every detail of how the rhetoric of "if you write/draw/read about [xyz] in fiction then you're immoral in real life," is nothing more than an expansion of purity culture censorship and is a rehashing of "if you see gay people, you'll become gay," I won't.
The point is, when people began to get angry at the existance of things they didn't personally enjoy, they began to call those things problematic. Just like in most foot-in-the-door cases, they started with anything including abuse, incest, pedophilia and other trauma---which is often use as a coping mechanism, but again not the time---in order to catch a wider audience, and then they began adding other things they disliked under the umbrella of "problematic" and "immoral." When the realization that much of fandom participated in shipping, it was broaded from genres and stories as a whole into shipping itself.
When this happened, they took the popular term "proshipper," and said that the prefix was short for "problematic." They then use this to group even the most innocent of shippers into the same category as those who wrote gore, incest, murder, ect. They then twisted this to say that every proshipper supported all of those things happening in real life.
I would like to now point out the definiton of fiction as taken from Oxford dictionary:
literature in the form of prose that describes imaginary events and people.
something that is invented or untrue.
Fiction is often used to explore people's real life trauma, but even in cases when it isn't, that doesn't mean that people whouldn't write about it in untrue instances that have no way to harm real life people. Many "immoral" things are often used to show that someone is a villain, or has survived something terrible, but it can be used for so many other things as well. And that, is the point of it being fiction. It's not real, so it can be use to explore any number of things for any number of reasons without harming real people.
However, that has not stopped a mass amount of antis claiming that those who create anything they disagree with is "immoral," hence the rise of the belief that "proshipping" means "problematic shipping." Now, what any given anti believes is problematic is unique to the individual, but like in all cases of censorship, if an inch is given, a mile will be taken.
Now because of the change in language, one might think that this is a case of a change in semantics, but that's untrue. While there is always going to be a time period where a word whose meaning is changing is used in both ways, it's typically not this consistent. Take the word "cute," for example. It was originally a shorteningof the word "acute," and was written with an apostrophe to replace the a. It meant "sharp or quick witted," but in the 1830s, it took on the meaning we know it to have today. A better example of this could be any piece of modern slang. Take your pick.
"Proshipper," on the other hand, is used by antis to mean "problematic shipping," and by most proproshippers to mean "for shipping/shipping is okay." Some proshippers do use it the same way antis do as a warning of the content that is on their page. Irregardless, the equal use of both meanings marks the word's change into a homonym.
As you have no doubt seen from the sheer amount of discourse that is always present, this leads to many instances of confusion. It also gets many innocent people harassed by antis who believe they have the moral high ground, as if their actions are not harming real people, unlike the things that they are against, which only affect fiction.
#proshipper#anti#antishipper#proshipping#fandom history#I was fueled by rage#apologies for any typos#my keyboard is busted and I have to copy-paste letters sometimes
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