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z00r0p4 Ā· 9 months ago
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Anyway ok I have some thoughts so like. It has always irked me, since the time I found out that the song Black Sheep was in a major movie being sung not by Emily Haines, frontwoman of the Canadian alt band Metric (creators of the song), but actress Brie Larson.
Like yes, i am biased in the fact that I heard Metric's version first, but like just listen to me for a second.
So many people thing Brie's version is better when it's just... not. Her register does not fit the tone of the song. She's a decent singer, but if you took the time to listen to Metric's catalogue, you'd realize just how much damn RANGE Emily Haines has. She gives an excellent, moody and brooding performance for Black Sheep. It is made for HER to sing if only because So What does Emily not have? An overly feminine affect. Larson is dialing it up to 500% for her cover that appeared in Scott Pilgrim. Which like, isn't a problem per se because cover music is cool and fun, and the sensualizing of the song through her vocals isn't in itself a bad thing. I'm just saying that it's kind of disheartening for everyone to hear that version of the song and think it's better when the connection between Emily and her song is so strong and impactful in a way that Brie's never could be.
I think we have forsaken the trailblazing of female alt/punk/rock and pop vocalists like Annie Lennox, Tanika Tikaram, Joann Jett, Alison Moyet, Stevie Nicks & Christine McVie (and hell, even popstars like Cyndi Lauper,) because we have been conditioned only to appreciate specific affects in female vocals. Some of this is absolutely due to trends, don't get me wrongā€” there's a lot of guys who sound the same right now too. But overall, I think they sometimes have more license to sound the way they want. (I'll add though that I feel like women in rap seem to have more license than those in pop, rock, and alt, given the huge successes of women like Nicki Minaj.).
So yeah. idk. I know the band likes Larson's cover though so like good for them but I'll die mad about the fact that people can't appreciate Haines' vocals the way they ought to.
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dellamortethelesser Ā· 8 months ago
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CURSE OF STRAHD: HUNTED is a campaign run by my friend ONYX, who hosts six players every Saturday night over Discord as our intrepid adventurers brave the horrors of Barovia. Here you can find information about my characters, the other playersā€™ characters, and even the NPCs that we meet along the way! I will also be adding session write-ups for anyone who wants to follow along with what happens each week!
I also have tags, playlist, and pinterest boards for the characters of the other players, but I will also be including a tag to their tumblr (if applicable)!
MAIN TAG
THE STORY SO FAR / mobile link
MY PCs
ISMAEL - warlock, undying, pact of the tome, high elf tags, playlist, pinterest MELCHIOR - bard, college of eloquence, retired tags, playlist, pinterest
OTHER PCs
ARLEN - rogue, assassin, werewolf hunter, human tags, playlist, pinterest PLAYED BY AUSTIN CRAFINE -Ā antipaladin, oath of the giving grave, kenku tags, playlist, pinterest PLAYED BY ELLIOTT GISELLE - shadow sorcerer, romantic, human tags, playlist,Ā pinterest PLAYED BY AMA LUNE - monk, way of the sun soul, dusk elf tags, playlist, pinterest PLAYED BY CASSY VAYAGOL - cleric, domain of life, kalashtar tags, playlist, pinterest PLAYED BY MICAH
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the-mist-walkerrr Ā· 5 months ago
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CURSE OF STRAHD: THE CRIMSON COURT is a campaign run by my friend Elliott @diamanti91, who hosts five players every Monday night over Discord as our intrepid adventurers brave the horrors of Barovia. Here you can find information about my characters, the other playersā€™ characters, and even the NPCs that we meet along the way! I will also be adding session write-ups for anyone who wants to follow along with what happens each week!
I also have tags, playlist, and pinterest boards for the characters of the other players, but I will also be including a tag to their tumblr (if applicable)!
MAIN TAG; #cos: tcc
MY PCs
ALEKSEI - paladin/rogue, oath of vengeance, half-elf #oc: aleksei (died in session 2 rip) IDRIS - cleric, fate domain, follower of the raven queen, aasimar #oc: idris (joined in session 2)
OTHER PCs
ASTRA - sorcerer, mesmer, bounty hunter, half-elf #cos: tcc (astra) PLAYED BY CASSY (@cassynite) ARYA -Ā rogue, ranger, barovian native, dhampir #cos: tcc (arya) PLAYED BY ONYX (@tenmillionbees) CARMILLA - wizard, blood mage, priestess, half-elf #cos: tcc (carmilla) PLAYED BY AMA (@amatres) SALICEAE - warlock, undead patron, barovian native, hexblood #cos: tcc (saliceae) PLAYED BY AUSTIN (@new-austin)
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from left to right: idris, astra / arya, carmilla, saliceae
note: all character art seen here was either drawn by the players or commissioned/gifted respectively.
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paaopalpoerepr33 Ā· 1 year ago
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Was tagged by @lysistra (ty!) for four albums Iā€™ve been listening to lately! Unfortunately I have only slowly been recovering my old mutuals because for the life of me I just canā€™t remember handles šŸ˜­ so I will tag @touchhorseexperience @treefr0gz @johnnydlux @combustibabe and anyone who wants to
Drinking Songs by Matt Elliott
I forgot how I found this album/trilogy of albums (Failing Songs and Howling Songs) but they all have a very similar sleazy, dark cabaret, insidious sort of indie 2000s Baudelairean vibe to them which has been so good to me especially since I started reading Moby Dick. Itā€™s a little hokey, but also self aware. Really just for a certain mischievous or indulgent mood. If you liked A Series of Unfortunate Events as a kid, itā€™s like an adult version of the soundtrack! (Elliott notes magnetic fields as an influence so it makes sense.) I love: The Guilty Party, CF Bundy, The Maid We Messed, What the Fuck Am I Doing On This Battlefield?
Luxury Absolute by Clair Cassis
If you know me, you know Velvet Cacoon/Clair Cassis have been almost daily listening for the past year and a half or so. Recently more into Clair Cassis. Black metal doesnā€™t exactly cut it for me as much anymore because everything else pales when I listen to them; there are such subtle textures Iā€™m constantly amazed and fawning!! The paired, lilting syncopation between the guitars and keyboard?? Ughhh. It gets me every time. And for such tiny ā€œmorselsā€ as Josh refers to CC songsā€¦ theyā€™re just so hefty for a minute or two. Faves: antique sea smoke, rosewater cake, under sleepy grey elms
Come, Arrow, Come! By Festival
Iā€™ve been in a mood to rehash my old string indie favorites from the 2000s-early 2010s but by that I mean mostly cello rock/baroque or chamber pop stuff that used to come up on the Rasputina Pandora radio station when I was in high school lol. I have no background for this band whatsoever, and it took a bit to remember and track down this one song, ā€œBind us allā€ in particular which prompted me to listen to the whole album. I love the vocalistā€™s timbre sm and I really appreciate the harmonies, polyrhythms and the low fi quality too. I wish theyā€™d put out more stuff!! I recommend Boxcar, Bind Us All, Blown Light.
New Mexico by Oppenheimer Analysis
Just seeing the word Oppenheimer everywhere triggered this one. One of my favorite coldwave sorts along with Martin DuPont. Not even sure what to say! Subterranean Desire is a hit for a reasonā€” itā€™s one of my favorite songs to come mind whenever Iā€™m thinking about melancholia and pursuit/loss of the desired object in psychoanalysis and idk if they were thinking of Tatlock/psychoanalysis when they wrote it but itā€™s so spot on! Incredibly weird to have a concept album written about the Manhattan project like this though. It is just so. Quirky. Favorites: Subterranean Desire, New Mexico, Security Risk, Cold War.
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equestrianempire Ā· 10 months ago
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Looking Forward to the SRF Carolina International & H. T.: Stacked 4*S Entry List Promises Full Slate of Action
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Pfun, a veteran campaigner for Faudree, may take second in the 4*S at Carolina in 2023. Tilly Berendtā€™s image.
The 2024 Makers ā€˜ Run Farm Carolina International, which will take place at the Carolina Horse Park on March 14- 17, is sure to be an interesting year for the 37 horses and horse groups that are now competing in the CCI4*- S.
The Pan American Games group, which includes Sydney Elliott and QC Diamantaire, Liz Halliday and Miks Master C, Sharon White and Claus 63, and Caroline Pamukcu and HSH Blake, will all start powerful. Therefore, Caroline and HSH Blake will be a match to watch out for as they take the gold at the Pan Ams with a final tally of 30.8 %.
With four rides in the 4*, Liz will undoubtedly have a full plate: Cooley Moonshine ( owned by Ocala Horse Properties ), Cooley Quicksilver ( owned by the Monster Partnership and Ocala Horse Properties ), Cooley Nutcracker ( owned by the Nutcracker Syndicate and Ocala Horse Properties ), and of course Miks Master C ( owned by Ocala Horse Properties and Debbie Palmer ). Liz and her animals will always be the ones to keep your eye on, as often.
For the 4*, Andrew McConnon, who won this yearā€™s Elizabeth Broussard International Developing Rider Grant, will be bringing two bolts: Ferrieā€™s Cello and Wakita 54.
Lauren Nicholson and Ms. Mars ā€˜ Landmarkā€™s Jungleā€™s Golden as well as Will Coleman and Diabolo, owned by the Diabolo Group, are another comments that are likely to be competitive. Two pretty exciting horses, Possante and Quasi Cool, both coming off of Grand- Prix Eventing, may also engage for Phillip Dutton.
FE Lifestyle, which Jennie Brannigan rode, was originally bred to be a present sweater, but now finds success in eventing under Jennieā€™s guidance. Last year,ā€ Foxyā€ placed 12th at Burghley, leading Jennie to take home the highest-placed Burghley first-timer. During this contest, this piece will be challenging to keep up with!
High Tide and Rachel Lawson will be another piece to watch out for because they have successfully navigated some ups and downs to this point. Their origin story makes them a pair you ca nā€™t miss because they are Rachelā€™s first OTTB.
Fernhill Zoro joins US equine U25 Emerging Athletes Cassie Sanger. Sheā€™ll also be taking part in the USEF Futures Challenge, and you can find out more about that thrilling race thatā€™s taking place alongside the 4*S around.
Corture, ridden by Briggs Surratt, will be a small but powerful some to watch out for. Elisa Wallaceā€™s Holsteiner combination horse has only 14.2 hands!
View this passage record in its entirety. This will not be an event you want to miss, as weā€™re getting our Olympic year underway, regardless of whether youā€™ll be watching in person or from home ( click here to access the live stream on Horse &amp, Country ).
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Eventing Nation is pleased to have Carolina International on the hit team. Click here to fill out the token request form if you want to attend this yearā€™s function as a member of the internet.
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strange-august Ā· 2 years ago
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Augie's List of Names that sound āœØļø GenderāœØļø
(When I was trying to decide what name I wanted to use instead my actual name, I made up this list. I have my preferred name now but I thought I'd share this list for others to consider. I'll update it from time to time. These can also be used for OCs.)
Akira - Japanese Origin - Bright, Clear, Ideal
Amity - English Origin - Friendship
Andi - English Origin - Manly, Virile, Brave
August - Roman Origin - To Increase, Great
Azrael - Hebrew Origin - Angel of God, Help from God
Bailey - English Origin - Berry Clearing, Bailiff, City Fortification
Basil - Greek Origin - King
Beau - French Origin - Beautiful, Handsome
Bentley - English Origin - Meadow with Coarse Grass
Billie - English Origin - Determination, Strength
Blair - Scottish Origin - Plain, Meadow, Field
Boe - English Origin - To Live
Casey - Gaelic Origin - Vigilant
Casper - Persian/Iranian Origin - Treasurer
Cassie - English Origin - To Excel, To Shine
Clover - English Origin - Meadow Flower
Dominic - English Origin - Of The Lord
Eden - Hebrew Origin - Pleasure, Delight, Plain
Elliott - Hebrew Origin - The Lord is My God
Glendale - Scottish Origin - Valley
Harley - English Origin - Hare Woodland, Hare Clearing
Jax - English Origin - Son Of Jack
Jasper - English Origin - Treasurer
Jericho - Hebrew Origin - Moon, Fragrant
Jetta - English Origin - Monarch
Joey - English Origin - God Will Increase
Jojo - English Origin - Monday Born
Jordan - English Origin - To Go Down
Journey - English Origin - Trip, Expedition
Juda/Judas - Hebrew Origin - Praised
Jude - English Origin - Praised
Judo - Japanese - The Way of Gentleness
Juniper - Latin Origin - Young, Beautiful
Juno - Roman Origin - Queen of Heaven
Kai - Hawaiian Origin - Keeper of the Keys, Earth
Kris - English Origin - Follower of Christ
Lee - English Origin - Meadow, Clearing in the Woods
Leo - Latin Origin - Lion
Logan - English Origin - Hollow
Louise - French Origin - Famous Warrior
Mackenzie - English Origin - Handsome, Fair
Marley - English Origin - Marshy Meadow, Pleasant Wood, Marten Wood
Noa/Noah - Hebrew Origin - Love, Affection
Oakley - English Origin - Oak Clearing
Pepper - English Origin - Relating to the Spice
Pine - English Origin- Relating to the Tree
Reagan - Irish Origin - Little King
Reef - English Origin - Jagged rocks, sand, and coral above or below the surface of the sea.
Remy/Remi - French Origin - Oarsmen, Rower
Riley - English Origin - Rye Clearing, Courageous, Valiant
River - English Origin - A Flowing Body of Water
Salem - Arabic Origin - Complete, Safe, Peaceful
Sam - English Origin - Gift of God
Shiloh - Hebrew Origin - Tranquil
Skylar/Skyler - English Origin - Scholar
Taylor - English Origin - Tailor, To Cut
Valentine - Latin Origin - Strong, Healthy
Vee - Norwegian Origin - Sacred Place
Wren - English Origin - Small Bird
Zephyr - Greek Origin - West Wind
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catradoraism Ā· 3 years ago
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wtf is going on in euphoria
do u think anyone can answer that question rn dbfbfjffb
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theeonlyheartbreaker Ā· 3 years ago
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if the show was just jules rue and elliot (as well as like minor characters like fez and lexi) it would be so much better
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surejess-arc Ā· 3 years ago
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rank the escapees<3
jess ranks the escapees !
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@endlesshvnger @milo-b @moniwxshington @seven-c23 @ladylaazarus @12rounds
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low-budget-korra Ā· 3 years ago
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Comments on Euphoria s02e02
- Again focusing on Nate in the beginning. I hate him but damn he is a complex character and Jacob Elordi does such a wonderful job playing him.
And I still thinks he fancy Jules and that's why he is in love with Cassie, cuz she is also blonde and vulnerable, gentle, delicate... So I think he may see Jules in Cassie.
Also, I'm so on board if he decides to make the living hell outta his father life. And if he doesn't this instead of bullying the girls, that would be a twist I didn't saw coming
- Rue, Jules is not clingy and jealous, she just isn't dumb or blind, she saw what's going on and she was right to be mad.
And I no longer ship Rules. And look at that, Rue being the emotional irresponsible one, that's a slap in a face or people who still throw stone at Jules. Poor Jules tho, she is about to have her second heart break in what? A few months?
- I felt like I need to say this since now we have two love triangles. The difference between MaddyxNatexCassie and JulesxElliottxRue, is that Nate is a complex character and actually have a story out of the love triangle, Elliott don't(until now). He still is just the guy that is there to be in between Jules and Rue and give Rue drugs.
- Maddy babysitting was not something I knew I needed. And the tension between her and that woman? That was sus. And since is Minka Kelly playing her Im sure she will make more appearance and I'm curious to see what her character will do this season
-Cassie please learn how to leave without male attention and approval
- Kat is not allowing herself to have nice things or she is just bored? And if she is bored, why people thing healthy relationships are boring?
I really like how they show us the toxic positivity here. I hate see those rich, hot (for the society standards) people saying that I shouldn't hate myself and all when we live in two different worlds, when I will never have the opportunities and privilege they have. And also sucks how today woman have all this pressure put by patriarchy and the woke culture, to be this or be that.
Please don't take this wrong is just that things can become toxic real quick. Even things that are good.
- Okay I knew Cal wouldn't kill Fez with Lexi there but Jesus Christ my heart was about to come out I'm my chest.
- Lexi 2.0. Time to shine queen.
-Hell yeah, girls night. Poor Ethan tho. Oh and I'm rooting for Jules and Maddy to be besties. They are really quickly becoming my fav characters along with Fez
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anxiouspotatorants Ā· 3 years ago
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Ā«Jake (Nate) and Martaā€™s (Maddy) relationship was our first impression of love.Ā»
No but you see this puts so many things into perspective while also being really depressing.
Obviously, for Maddy this was her first love. Which sucks because Nate is a horribly toxic and abusive individual, but thatā€™s the situation. So she has so much that she has to work through because of the damage he did, and itā€™ll take so much time that she thinks sheā€™s destined to be in these horrible relationships. Not to mention how she feels like she canā€™t escape him. In this episode she says something like Ā«He put me through hell and now heā€™s with my best friendĀ». Obviously a lot in that sentence is about Cassieā€™s betrayal, but it also sounds like him taking another part of her life away from her. Like just when she feels like sheā€™s breaking free from him he pulls the knife in deeper and twists it.
For Cassie I think this love mattered a lot more and a lot less than I first thought. She already had a pretty toxic starting point with the daddy issues and the constant sexualisation and shaming, but she also witnessed her friend being in this intense relationship that was volatile and emotional but also (from where Cassie was standing) filled with love. Like yes, Cassie knows that Nate has done some horrible things, but Cassie currently thinks she deserves horrible. She doesnā€™t think sheā€™s a good person. Somewhere between the start of Maddy and Nateā€™s relationship and where Cassie was mentally at the start of season 2, everything finally broke her down. Now sheā€™s looking for attention and love but punishment at the same time and Nate can (unfortunately) provide that.
To Kat this relationship must have been a real life version of a lot of the loves she witnessed and explored in fiction and the internet in general. Like, I donā€™t think Kat is attracted to Nate in any way, and I hope she consciously knows how bad he is, but I think the dynamic between him and Maddy itself affected her too. She expects violent emotion. She expects humiliation. She expects danger. Itā€™s not just that she read about it and even possibly wrote it in fanfics. She saw it play out before her eyes with her best friend. The only other Ā«loveĀ» Kat had known was her elementary school relationship with Daniel, and it didnā€™t really counteract a lot of what Kat could have learned from Maddy and Nate.
To be honest I donā€™t think this relationship affected Rue a lot, if only because she isnā€™t the closest to neither Maddy not Nate and she has been too wrapped up in her addiction to really take in anything else. But I think they were another confirmation of her worldview. When she describes Maddy and Nate in season 1 both together and as individuals, she doesnā€™t just accept the way their lives have gone. She practically expects it. There is nothing shocking to her about Maddy having inappropriate relations with older guys between Nate, and even Nateā€™s f*cked upedness is framed as crazy but not new. Plus, I think she might think Nate is the ideal guy for women who like men? Like I might be reaching here, but in season 1 she claims that Nate (jock, masculine etc) is Julesā€™ type, but her type in men hadnā€™t been established by her at that point. It still hasnā€™t. Elliott sure doesnā€™t fit the same description as Nate.
Last, Lexi. Until this season Lexi has always been in the background witnessing romantic love instead of experiencing it first hand. I donā€™t think she was as affected by Maddy and Nate as f.ex. Cassie or Kat, but this being her first impression of how a relationship starts instead of how it ends (like with her parents), it might have scared her further away from love? Because think about it: sheā€™s surrounded by all these toxic or dysfunctional relationships from Maddy and Nate to Cassie and McKay to Cassie and Nate and honestly Rue and Jules too. She talks about having this fear that something terrible is bound to happen, and though I do think she means that for more than just romance I think it applies to love for her too. Sheā€™s constantly waiting for the other shoe to drop.
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thecountesstribe Ā· 3 years ago
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TRIGGER WARNING!!! SPOILERS AHEAD.
Alright all shit aside that scene with Nate and Cal was fucked up and scary. Some people interpretation of the situation was that Nate was SA by Cal and others interpretation of it was Nate seeing the tapes of Cal at such a young age warped Nate. I'm leaning more towards the second interpretation. Nate becoming the very thing he despises has got to be alot for him. Combine that with Cal and Marsha's fucked up parenting, Nate was bound to grow into a pos. Nate seeing himself as one of Cal's partners/victims was really sick.... I don't know how to put it into words, it makes sense in my head but I get why Nate is the way he is. Not excusing his behavior cause majority of us unfortunately have some kind of trauma and we chose to not to be pieces of shit. We go get therapy or roll up and sort that fuckin shit out. Victimizing people cause you were victimized yourself is not an excuse, if anything you're supposed to know better, but I get that it's not as black and white as it is. His parents failed him. Marsha purposely turning a blind eye was just as bad. She had to know what Cal was doing. What parent doesn't know their kid?!! This would never be a Nate sympathy/apologist blog but I just get it.
Now onto Maddy and Cassie.... I was really trying to empathize with Cass up until she fuckin slept with Nate but Cass is a really bad friend. The fact that Maddy loved, probably still does love Cassie, more than Nate and was more hurt over the fact that Cassie betrayed her was heartbreaking. Maddy confessing by the door that Nate put her through hell and Cassie still went ahead to live with him and was flaunting being with him during school was downright trifilin and disgusting. Maddy called Cassie her soulmate and meant that shit and when she said she would've never did that to Cassie, that hurt bro.
Am I the only one who doesn't trust Samantha.. idk something about her is off.
For all Mama Suze faults you can't say she doesn't love and support her daughters. Just hope she can heal so she could get her happy ending. She was so proud of Lexi, it had me gushing.
I'm glad to see Rue thriving and getting sober. Leslie needed to have that talk with Rue. She honestly would've killed herself trying to save Rue and it would've destroyed Gia in the end. Finally they're acknowledging Gia in this. That baby always gets the shitty end of the stick. This quote, "sometimes you have to let go of stuff or people that destroy us no matter how much you love them" resonates deeply with that conversation. Rue dragging down herself will in turn sink everybody around her whether she wants to or not. Idc how much people love the idea of Jules and Rue but Rue needs to stay away from her. Rue and Jules aren't good for each other. She enables her behavior and then acts innocent. What Rue said about her was facts. Still haven't forgiven her and Elliott and I never will.
Ethan my darling. I love him your honor. Kat looked so pretty this episode. Fezbae and Ash need to be OK. Ashtray spidey senses are tingling and I need him to figure it out before something happens. The only reason why they got caught slipping is cause Ash went to the bathroom. We all know our boy is sharper than that. Faye is upsetting me. Fez was so nice to her bro.. His grandmother did warn him about his heart of gold but he can't help it. Haven't met his mom but that's her child. I just really don't want Fez heart to fuck him over in the end. Fez nervousness when getting ready was really sweet and adorable. You'll always be handsome baby. Lexi and his relationship is really fuckin sweet šŸ˜­šŸ’œ. Also them messing with Lexi and her Halloween costume being Bob Ross was hilarious. I hope Rue and Lexi could get back close.
I'm done ranting now, the producers were some hoes for doing that cliffhanger. Bitch I got anxiety and this is all I'm gonna think about till Sunday.
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spideymichelle Ā· 3 years ago
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the similarities between cassie and rue makes me think they are parallels this season from falling deeper in their addiction (drugs & the need to be loved), the daddy issues, the fucked up big sister, their gradual descent into the worst version of themselves both of them will end alone at this rate because they keep picking their addiction above the people they love (jules & maddy who both are also moving from their respective toxic relationship) and you just keep hoping till stop or they'll tell someone but they are so enabled by nate and elliott who ulterior motives for pushing further in their addiction i just think it is an interesting idea being pushed by the narrative
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the-mist-walkerrr Ā· 5 months ago
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CURSE OF STRAHD: HUNTED is a campaign run by my friend ONYX, who hosts six players every Saturday night over Discord as our intrepid adventurers brave the horrors of Barovia. Here you can find information about my characters, the other playersā€™ characters, and even the NPCs that we meet along the way! I will also be adding session write-ups for anyone who wants to follow along with what happens each week!
I also have tags, playlist, and pinterest boards for the characters of the other players, but I will also be including a tag to their tumblr (if applicable)!
MAIN TAG; #cos: hunted
MY PCs
ISMAEL - warlock, undying, pact of the tome, high elf #oc: ismael MELCHIOR - bard, college of eloquence, retired #oc: melchior
OTHER PCs
ARLEN - rogue, assassin, werewolf hunter, human #cos: hunted (arlen) PLAYED BY AUSTIN CRAFINE -Ā antipaladin, oath of the giving grave, kenku #cos: hunted (crafine) PLAYED BY ELLIOTT GISELLE - shadow sorcerer, romantic, human #cos: hunted (giselle) PLAYED BY AMA LUNE - monk, way of the sun soul, dusk elf #cos: hunted (lune) PLAYED BY CASSY VAYAGOL - cleric, domain of life, kalashtar #cos: hunted (vayagol) PLAYED BY MICAH
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sabrinaacarpenters Ā· 3 years ago
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Nate was gaslighting cassie but he slipped a truth in there. That truth being cassie likes to think she is innocent but she slept with her best friends man and her former bf's close friend. An a-hole move. Nate is the most obvious "no-go" rebound and she went there anyway. Nate is being his terrible self ofc and he has no redeemable traits within him so we grow tired of reguirgiating this fact and sometimes look to others (Jules, Rue, Elliott, Kat and CASSIE) who are making terrible choices too
obviously she's making terrible choices, but she's probably in the worst mental state she's ever been, so it's not like she's thinking clearly of what's she doing ?? the first season established that cassie's ready to do anything to get male validation and in the enter euphoria sydney even says that cassie's not thinking about anything, not about her friendship with maddy, only of the fact that she believes herself in love with nate. she's spiraling deeper and deeper, and the people who frame it as cassie having this well-thought-out masterplan of stealing her best friend's ex are just plain wrong
my issue is not cassie receiving criticism for her actions because she should, but that so many people are like 'i hope maddy kills her' and some insinuate that maddy somehow "won" (and laugh at how cassie "lost") by getting back nate from cassie, as if being with that abuser is a prize somehow ???
also just because weā€™ve been aware of nate being the literal worst from season 1, we still shouldnā€™t just ignore him and act like other characters are the devil in human form (this is not just about cassie, but about the fandomā€™s treatment of jules and lately rue)
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mermaidsirennikita Ā· 3 years ago
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Look Euphoria isn't this amazingly well written show but it's not just Riverdale with dicks. It's one of the better written teen dramas we've had in a while. Also from what I've noticed people don't seem to have as much of a problem with how it's written but more so with what is happening this season.
I think what bugs me is that people seem to think ā€œI donā€™t like thatā€ = bad writing. For example, the scene in which Jules says sheā€™s not interested in men anymore during her Christmas special is compared to Jules now sleeping with Elliott in season 2. People are claiming that Hunter is being undermined and her input cut with little solid basis besides their own conjecture, from what I can see. Julesā€™s behavior is frustrating, but itā€™s not bad writing, and I donā€™t think itā€™s an attempt to erase her interest in women. I think that itā€™s actually because of Hunterā€™s input, which she has said is not insignificant, that Jules is acting (realistically, especially for a teen who is still finding herself) in a manner that seems inconsistent.
I ship Rue and Jules, but I personally never saw the comment about how Jules no longer was interested in men as a declaration of sexuality, but rather an indication of her frustration with them and her dependence on being viewed as a woman by men. She kind of shifted that pursuit of validation to Rueā€¦. And so it makes sense that when she no longer felt validated by Rue, she would seek validation from a man (boy, but whatever) again. And I canā€™t speak for Sam or Hunter, but I canā€™t help but be reminded by the fact that Hunter said a good while ago that she identifies most closely with being a lesbianā€¦ but in December revealed that she now identifies with bisexuality and is dating Dominic. Hunter is older than Jules, and sheā€™s still figuring it out. Iā€™m older than Jules, and Iā€™m still figuring it out. I donā€™t consider this inconsistent writing so much as it is a frustrating, evolving character who honestly has a lot of inner turmoil.
Same goes for Cassie. Is Cassie badly written, or is she a fucked up person who does the same bullshit over and over because thatā€™s what fucked up people do? I see this a lot, and to me Cassie has, from day one, sought to be both validated and punished by men. So of course she fucks Nate, because it confirms that she is both worthy of being desired, and horrible enough to deserve punishment. He will deliver that punishment himself (she knows this Bc she knows him) and so will Maddy. It doesnā€™t mean sheā€™s making good choicesā€”but theyā€™re pretty consistent choices.
Iā€™m not really sure where the idea came that these people would act ā€¦. In positive, healthy ways. They never have, and frankly if they always did it would be a boring show.
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