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lauraryder // of age - the frights // damaged goods - the narcissist cookbook // fat funny friend - maddie zahm // black box warning - leanna firestone // cough it out - the front bottoms // mellowmash33 // the ramblings of a lunatic - bears in trees // prologue - chase petra // fiona apple // critical role - sam riegel // conversations with friends - sally rooney // on lonliness - dante émile
#web weaving#web weave#webweaving#webweave#personal#there is something about being a friend of convenience that feels so isolating#sometimes the loneliness is something i feel in my bones#so here is a collection of feelings along the same vein#so if you read this and relate maybe we can all feel a little less alone
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Last Unicorn quote stuck out to me so I gave it to Spider-Fox
(the only person willing to be your friend and he didn't show up until long after you already lost all trust in other people)
#i won't post about the movie yet but i WILL post more sonic prime heyooo!! there's no escape!!#sonic prime#sth#nine the fox#miles nine prower#shadow the hedgehog#sonic#sonic the hedgehog#tails the fox#my art#baby fox do do do do do do#poor sonic though: imagine raising a kid like family only to see how the kid would turn out if you were never in his life and its BAD#the guilt that would crush him for not being there for him (even though it wasn't his fault) so he tries to make it up to the kid#by doubling down on affection and praise and trying to let the kid know he's worthy of love#but ultimately he's NOT the same kid; you missed your chance a long time ago and now all you can do is watch as your baby brother#fades into a shadow of pain paranoia and loneliness and everyone keeps saying that the only thing left to do is give up on him entirely#but you CAN'T DO THAT you'd rather die than give up on this kid#but it keeps biting you in the ass because he's NOT YOUR BROTHER and he's hellbent on isolating himself at any cost— even from you#I'M NORMAL ABOUT NINE I SWEAR
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couldn’t stop thinking about this
#that fucking scene takes me out shdhjf#kingdom come deliverance#this is NOT Stephanie hate do not bring that to this post#as funny as that scene is I think it says something very interesting about how the class divide between them in addition to Stephanie’s#unique emotional isolation (and her inability to confide in people about the core of that conflict)#is what RESULTS in her initial perspective of Henry as this kind of romantic tragic figure#both she and Hans actually do this imo - in that they view Henry’s tale of skalitz as an initial tragic curiousity#and only upon further interaction w Henry do you start to see the bell toll in their brains that this is a Human Person#Hans won’t take no for an answer to telling the tale and Stephanie is enmeshed in the freedom of finally being able to get off her chest#some measure of the loneliness she has carried all these years with Divish and has no idea how to breach#tunes talks kingdomcomed
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Oh I misread that last post actually. While Jason's loneliness definitely resonates, I don't think it's self made in the slightest.
If anything he's guilty of reaching out at any cost - originally by using violence and antagonism to force interaction (UTRH and BiB, arguably the titans tower thing), and later by consistently showing up when called no matter how badly he's been treated, doing Bruce's bidding, and being 110% willing to sacrifice himself for the cause in the hopes that it'll finally be enough, even though it never is.
#jason todd#his isolation is a direct result of others actions#whatever your opinion of Catherine and Willis you cant deny that their choices left Jason isolated and lonely#bruce didn't let him join a team as robin and encouraged the prioritising of vigilanteism above all else#and then he's dead and when he comes back all his fears about not being important enough are confirmed in his eyes#the outlaws teams falling apart are obviously doylist fuckery#but in universe it's ends up looking like his teammates also just had different priorities too#i don't really know what my point is here beyond saying i dont think it's fair to blame a person for their own loneliness#when it's repeatedly the actions of other people that leaves him so isolated
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sorry twilight princess will always be eating holes in my brain. constantly and forever. I cannot ever be normal about it.
it's such a haunted game. you are a dead thing going through a dead world. you are something in between. you can go back but it will never be the same. you will never be the same. you are walking, constantly, through ghosts of what came before. you are exploring places long forgotten. you are the only one on this path because there is no one else that can walk it. you were just a farm boy. you were in the wrong place at the wrong time. right place at the wrong time? wrong place at the right time? you were just supposed to deliver a sword.
#twilight princess#loz#gnawing on how isolating it feels. how othering#its one of my favorite threads of all the games tbh i LOVE the different ways each explore loneliness#like im thinking about areas like the lost woods and the temple of time and the city in the sky and arbiter's grounds#all these places that are so empty or have been forgotten by the world around them#and then even places like castle town that were so full of life but you walk through it first when it's only populated by ghosts#you know the bones of every place before you ever know it's heart#sorry for yapping in the tags again i just have a lot of feelings about tp and tp link in general#this game has been consuming my thoughts for almost two decades now
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god i'm having series 12 thoughts...
the way the fam finally decide to get the Doctor to open up, to share things about herself... the way they were so ready to support her when they realized she was going through something... the way this could have been the season where the Doctor and the others form a deeper and more personal bond. one based on them truly understanding the Doctor and being on the same level as her instead of seeing her as this mysterious hero figure - and her learning to trust them in return...
but instead, the Doctor loses her planet and immediately feels so much more alone. like no one can understand her. the way she snaps at Ryan in Fugitive of the Judoon - "i've lived for thousands of years. [...] how long have you been here? you don't know me. not even a little bit." the way she feels like they couldn't possibly understand her pain, so she pushes them away. and then The Haunting of Villa Diodati adds another layer to this estrangement by presenting her with an impossible choice. and reminding her that she's the only one who can understand all the horrible consequences. making her conclude she'll have to be the one to bear all the weight of responsibility. "sometimes this team structure isn't flat. It's mountainous, with me at the summit in the stratosphere, alone, left to choose." more loneliness, more feeling isolated from the fam and everyone else.
a lonely god. cursed to see the complexity of the universe, forced to make choices even when there's no right one. forced to face losses bigger than anyone could imagine, and live with them for an eternity. cursed never to be truly understood by the ones she loves - cursing herself, because she won't let them try.
putting herself on top of this mountain out of hurt.
#she needs donna “no WE destroy pompeii” noble back istg#also. i've seen several people interpreting the mountainous team structure line as her saying she's more important than the others#when no#it's about loneliness and responsibility and the burden of a deeper understanding. imho.#okay it's probably rooted in a sort of arrogance#but it's a self-sacrificial sort of arrogance. being convinced she'll have to carry this burden alone.#this whole arc is her putting herself above them as a kind of self-flagellation. yk??#doctor who#dw series 12#thirteenth doctor#fugitive of the judoon#the haunting of villa diodati#the fam#(edit: oh and ofc there's also her (literally) isolating herself to protect them#like when she says she'll face the cyberman alone#because humans are the cyberman's prey. humans are fragile.#putting herself above them as in she can handle it so she'll deal with it#because she can't handle the alternative. can't lose more people she loves.#idk how well i'm explaining it but the way this is all connected-)
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there's something so bittersweet about finding out you're autistic and that autistic people have trouble maintaining friendships long term. one one hand you're like oh! maybe there isn't something uniquely horrible about me! lots of people like me struggle with this! but then you realize that if it's not you, it's not in your power to fix
#like it truly is so isolating and heartbreaking in a way idk if i can quantify#feeling like you're genetically hard to love#having great pattern recognition and being able to tell the exact moment a friendship is over#when the scales have tipped and you've been found to be too much or too little or just too fucking different#and sometimes when you live like that for decades#it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy#don't get me wrong - autistic people can and do have beautiful loving friendships#i've loved my best friend since we were 12#but they're the only active friend i have rn that i've known for significantly more than a year#idk. it's past 5am and i should probably just sleep#but i'm up thinking about the chronic loneliness of disability instead#wreaking havoc
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a common theme I like to explore is the unlikable guy - unlikable in a mundane way, he's not a serial killer and isn't trying to take over the world, you don't get that degree of separation from him, this is someone you can and probably have met irl. pushy annoying inconsiderate weak bigoted toxic etc. this is who we're reading about today. and he's not necessarily going to improve either. i find that people react to "evil" and "just kinda shitty" characters very differently, usually hating the latter more - a vampire who kills people is whatever but some guy cheating on his gf provokes a stronger disapproving response. i think it's interesting how the closer to home you hit, the smaller the bad act is on the scale of badness. anyway it's really obvious why this is and I am partially just retreading very well trodden ground but it's this sort of kneejerk negative response to mundane shittiness I like to explore more than I do "he did commit the atrocities and I love him for it" style stories
#fondly remembering the time i wrote a character cheating and how it made people more upset than the killing and murdering#and that wasn't even bowman. his cheating was much worse lol. yay adultery#anyway this post was more about horsey pascal since i drew him yesterday#his character is all about loneliness and isolation and how it usually turns someone into a self absorbed prick#instead of a tragic wilting flower
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childhood friend!sugu vs childhood friend!toru
YOU’VE COME TO THE RIGHT PLACE .
thank you for saying this anon i’ve been thinking of it a lot actually. i’m morally and legally binded to choose childhood friend!sugu no matter what because he’s literally……. my favorite Ever. and i think the inherent devotion of the childhood friend trope blends soooo well with his natural devotion. his protective urges. etcetc. i have wayyyy too many thoughts about childhood friend!sugu 😭 but it mostly boils down to him wanting to be by your side forever. he wants to make you happy and he wants to protect you and he knows you so well that he doesn’t trust anyone else to love you like he can. he’s selfish and he wants you to lean on him more than he wants anything for himself.
childhood friend!toru though….. i feel like he would be your estranged childhood friend. that makes most sense to me :3 like, you met when you were really really young, and ended up playing together in an empty park. he was a brat, kind of quiet, and you were just sweet, y’know? you were the closest thing to a friend he had as a child. then you ended up moving away, he never got to say goodbye… and you meet again as adults. you don’t remember him — it was just so, so long ago — but he remembers you. he remembers you a little too well.
so now you just kinda have to deal with this tall, handsome, cheery man who keeps talking to you like you’re best friends even though you literally don’t remember him…. he’s sweet though. a little annoying, but sweet. he has a soft spot for you. i think having anything remotely close to a childhood friend makes him feel human in a way he can’t help but crave.
sooooo. overall!!! both are good :3 i will always be a childhood friend!sugu truther before anything else but childhood friend!toru has sm potential..
#THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION MY ANGEL#the childhood friend trope is my Absolute favorite i’ll never get tired of talking abt it :3#childhood friend!sugu is the most devoted sugu btw#that’s a very tough thing to say but. it’s true#honestly it’s a toss up between a specific brand of cult leader geto and childhood friend sugu…#buuuuuut . like.#i think childhood friend sugu would do Anything to see you smile. he’s so devoted to you.#you’ve been the center of his world before he knew who he was or what he wanted#so . like. when he thinks of the future he just sees You. all he wants is to be with you#…….. when i think abt it . he’s literally just yuuta isn’t he 💀💀💀#the geto/yuuta parallels keep haunting me somebody helpppppp T_T#BUT I LOVEEE CHILDHOOD FRIEND!TORU I THINK HE . could be . so fun :333#he keeps pouting about you forgetting him and calling you his bestie so you assume you were really close#… then you eventually find out that you only played together like . four times.#but those few few hours are still precious to satoru because he was always so isolated#it’s a little heartbreaking!!!! the idea that to you he was just a quiet boy all alone in a park.#but to him you were the closest thing he had to a friend……..#i’m just imagining him waiting for you in the park all day. after you move. and he just waits and waits and then goes home.#………….#ok nevermind i’m making myself sad#.. but anyway . i think that kinda plot would be interesting because it gives reader an insight into satoru that no one else has#to you he’s still a quiet boy in a park. who looks a little lonelier than he should be#i love him T_T#ask tag ✩
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The whole Lila & Five season 4 situation can be summarized by this tumblr post
#I described this post to my partner as we were watching the Lila x Five kiss scene & we both laughed our 🍑 off about it#it just feels so nonsensical & out of nowhere and also not important to the plot at all 😂#lilafive is a wild ship ngl like... I get it touch starved loneliness isolation for 7 years but like oof was that all necessary?#like regardless of how you feel about the age gap you gotta admit that was out of the blue idk just felt weird#especially with so little run time left like.... there are more important things to be going on than some amatonormative romance drama#anyway here's a meme in light of the lilla pitts & five hargreeves situation in season 4#mine#op#tua season 4#tua s4#tua spoilers#tua#lila pitts#umbrella acedmy#five hargreeves#the umbrella academy#umbrella academy spoilers#tua memes#umbrella academy memes
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Who are your top fave characters from each mxtx novel? 👀
i'm going to exclude svsss from this list because i haven't finished it yet and therefore all of my opinions are just based on hearsay. but for the other two:
mdzs
1. jin guangyao (obviously); the antagonist of circumstance who but for a trick of fate and authorial intent could have easily been the novel's protagonist
2. lan xichen; the very best of men 🥹 truly the person with the kindest heart and (in my opinion) the most tragic ending in the novel*. also i'm xiyao trash, who's surprised
3. su she; he and i are the same person honestly
4. jiang cheng; i think if i was going to go insane about any of the core cast, i'd probably go insane over jiang cheng. and i probably would have, if jin guangyao didn't exist! sorry, jiang cheng.
5. wen qing; who doesn't love a mad scientist??
tgcf
1. xie lian; no seriously, i love the protagonist of this novel the best because he is everything i love about jin guangyao and lan xichen burrito'd up into one character
2. shi wudu; the heavens' cuntiest proto-capitalist, and also arguably the elder brother that the mdzs fandom wishes nie mingjue was for nie huaisang 👀 (this opinion has gotten me into at least 4 fights on the mdzs subreddit specifically)
3. pei ming; my ethical slut general. also the other half of peishui, my main non-hualian ship for this novel
4. mu qing; he did NOTHING wrong except have a bad attitude, since when is that a crime!!! (this is not serious analysis, please don't @ me with your mu qing criticism, i'm too tired for it right now)
5. jun wu; daddy 🥺
#asks answered#whoops anon i just realized you asked for my top fave rather than top five#w/e this still applies#also ling wen NARROWLY lost to jun wu. VERY narrowly#also oops i forgot my asterisk follow-up#* 'ray isn't jgy's fate more awful than lxc's?' yes it is but when i say tragic i mean how both the narrative and the fandom treat lxc#jgy's fate is unjust and horrific and certainly tragic#but there's something about how both the story and most of the fandom just move on from lxc in his pain and loneliness and isolation#that just breaks my heart#and no the answer is not to hook him up with jiang cheng post-canon#please god keep the x!cheng fanon commentary off this post
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still not over lizzie’s secret life
#forest talks too much#life series#trafficblr#her pov from a lore perspective makes me very upset#the complete loneliness and isolation and everyone ignoring her#she wasn’t even disliked she was just ignored completely#and then when she dies her final death it’s not even about her it’s about Jimmy’s curse#you can pry c!lizzie from my cold dead hands#ldshadowlady#secret life#secret life smp
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Out here drawing pre-dawnburnt Ellie and it's reminding me a lot about what a complete bastard she used to be in her teenage years.
She came into the navy already not particularly popular with other kids, deciding that it doesn't matter because the only people she needed to impress were the officers, the ones in power who could actually improve her life. The aftermath of the Fall and the reorganisation of the navy only seemed to reinforce this. When one of her peers tried to get her removed from their ship in the wake of her injuries and disability, she only fought harder to stay on, seeing him as the Competition, that everyone else has it out for her because they want to take her future from her. She would sell you to Satan for one corn chip. Only her captain's opinion mattered.
She was also a bit of a late bloomer, and stayed pretty small well into her teenage years. She ended up establishing herself early on by pulling a knife and turning a conflict violent before her opponent could even process they were in a fight. She made sure to set a precedent early on, one that would follow her into her commanding style: set a swift and brutal example early on, and you won't have to do it again. They will remember.
In retrospect, ego death and actually being in a position of power with people under her umbrella of responsibility did a lot for her personal development.
#roberts#staring at this drawing screaming at her for her utter refusal to use a mobility aid#it would've saved her DECADES of pain and complications#she really had no friends... well ever#but some people at least tried in this time period#and she pushed them away assuming that they were trying to sabotage her#architect of her own loneliness in a way#but every attempt to break that cycle was met with consequences#enforcing the idea that she was right to isolate all along#i go a bit crazy if i think about it for too long
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I've been sitting on my feelings about this show for a couple of days now and I can't stop thinking about how lonely Yeong is. Nothing captures his self-inflicted loneliness quite like those small moments in episode 7 when he’s with the T-aras. When they are comforting Eun Su and then head to the hotel room, you see him just hang back, silently observing and slightly confused as the T-aras walk ahead and/or barge into the room while he stays behind for a second or two. It hits you then—you can feel the weight of his solitude, this deep sense of loneliness that goes beyond his romantic life. It’s all in how he carries himself in those moments that are supposed to be chaotic and fun, how he’s not walking in step with them. It's a constant reminder of how he isolates himself even when surrounded by his closest friends, and that just.... hurts.
#i have so many feelings about yeong's loneliness and how self-inflicted it is#i know this can be taken as him just being confused because he's not up to date with what has been happening in his friend's lives#and that was because he was LITERALLY self isolating but idk it still struck me those moments when he lingered behind as they walked ahead#it also kind of highlight his emotional distance through his body language#and it happens multiple times throughout the show too#maybe I'll write a longer post and how his body language reflects his loneliness in every relationship of his#but i just need to figure out how to articulate it#till then im just gonna wallow in my pain for a little longer#love in the big city#korean bl#kdrama#queer drama
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"the unicorn lived in a lilac wood, and she lived all alone." and what if i cried.
#the last unicorn gets me all the time... telling alex to read it has made me think about it more. i opened up my copy to make sure i was#remembering the words right. the first page alone is so beautiful to me.#to write so simply but so beautifully and so succinctly about the concept of eternal isolation#and how it does not give way to loneliness until you realize you are the Last...#cricket.chatterbox#the last unicorn
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gwen and miles make me go crazy....like the one who shouldn't be with the one who won't be...
#its about how they both share the same loneliness and isolation in the society because of things they had no control over#like its not miles's fault he got bit by a spider from earth 42#its not gwen's fault that a bunch of universes keep letting her fall#but they pay the price for that anyway#and it hangs over them like crazy it keeps them apart#angel speaks#across the spiderverse#miles morales#gwen stacy#ghost spider#spider gwen#atsv#spiderman#spider man#spider man into the spider verse#spiderman into the spiderverse#into the spider verse#itsv#spiderman itsv#spiderman atsv#spiderman across the spiderverse#spider man across the spider verse#spiderverse#ghostflower#gwen x miles#gwiles
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