#and I HATED the last jedi

[mozart-the-meerkitten]

My parents and I watched the season 3 finale of Star Wars: Rebels tonight and I can't believe my mom was the one who was like "WHY ARE THEY* ALL DYING?!" and I was the one being all, "don't worry I'm sure it will be fine." this is the most role reversal we have ever done.

(*to clarify I mean the rebels in general, the main cast was fine)

[eggdrawsthings]

Saw that pic of LJJ with the flowers on twitter and I had to tap back in one last time to draw my fave trio real quick. Farewell pookies, thank you for the brainrot the past few weeks. Ily sm but im ready to move on now 🥲🫶

I made Jecki a Jedi Knight in this one so we can all be delulu that this was taken after her graduation 🥲 Khofar? Brendok? what is that idk them 🤡

[bibxrbie]

It is so difficult loving Luke Skywalker and being Jedi positive.

[caput-medusae]

One thing I genuinely appreciate about the TROP showrunners is that, unlike Star Wars post-TLJ (the best movie of the sequel trilogy), they didn’t back off of their vision, but instead doubled down.

You don’t like diverse characters, even background characters? Fuck you, there’s more and we’re making the camera linger on them extra long.

You don’t like the Harfoots? Fuck you, now we have desert Hobbits. Also we retconned Poppy back into the show because we wanted to.

You don’t like Hot Sauron? Fuck you, he’s the main character now. Also we gave him a wig and a sparkly outfit.

You don’t like non-canon ship teases? Fuck you, Elrond and Galadriel kiss.

You don’t like Celebrimbor? Too bad, we’re giving him Shakespearean monologues now.

Fuck you, we’re giving Adar gay subtext.

Fuck you, we’re stopping the action to sing a song.

Fuck you, Tom Bombadil is here now.

[artist-issues]

"Rian Johnson was mocking Star Wars fans for expecting Star Wars tropes in TLJ!"

No. Star Wars fans just happened to have the exact same flaw that the character, Rey, had: too much focus on her parents. That made her easy to relate to. But the whole point, down to the first movie she was introduced in (which WASN'T written by Rian Johnson) was that her parents were never important.

Star Wars fans should've expected that reveal. It was already set up. Maz literally tells Rey in the first movie to quit focusing so much on her parents. The filmmakers literally told you "she's wrong to put so much stock in who her parents are" in The Force Awakens. He just carried that theme on and y'all weren't ready for it because you never wanted to accept it in the first place.

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Same thing with Snoke. Kylo Ren was introduced as a character who only wants one thing: strength. He thinks that strength will solve his emotional frailty. He's insecure. (Because reasons, to do with his family and their lack of faith in him.) Rey straight-up discovers that his biggest fear is "never being as strong as Darth Vader" and says it out loud so that the audience will get it.

You really think, when he was introduced as a character who believes killing mentor-father-figures will make him feel stronger and therefore more secure, that Snoke ever had a chance of getting past the second movie alive?

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They straight-up introduced these characters with certain flaws, which lead to certain motives, which so happen to lead to different conclusions than common Star Wars fan theories.

Because that's the beauty of the Sequels. They acknowledge the legendary status of the Original Trilogy Tropes, then grow beyond those tropes.

Or at least. They were starting to. Until Star Wars fans threw continued hissy fits because they didn't want a story, they wanted a 💫 Star Wars Checklist Cleverly Disguised as a Story.💫

Then the powers-that-be were like "okay they're really not looking for a good story, just give 'em the checklist they were looking for." And you got exactly that in The Rise of Skywalker.

But Rian Johnson wasn't mocking you. He was just taking the next logical, compelling step in the previously-established arcs of well-written characters. And carrying on the Sequel's initial trademark of "appreciate the past by growing beyond it." Y'know. Like a good writer.

[reyturnofbensolo]

"In the fan art I've seen, there's a good amount that implies... something between Osha and the Stranger," he says. "That's something that people, I think, have been yearning for in this genre, or at least in this IP, and I love that people are honing in on it and encouraging it. So I think people can look forward to more of that, possibly. If people want it, we can explore that subsequent season."-Manny Jacinto

The Acolyte bts!

[oathena11-writes]

I have seen the repeated sentiment that we can like the Jedi and Anakin. Yeah, that's true. 

But why assume that people want to like Anakin, that they think they have to hate Anakin? Yes, a large part of why people don't like Anakin is just because of the genocide of the Jedi Order. 

But there is so much more reason to dislike Anakin that have little to do with the Jedi. 

Although, the anti Jedi people who like to use Anakin to say why the Jedi are bad make it real hard to find reason to like Anakin.

I'm not a big hater. I don't like to hate. But... I don't like Anakin.

I don't want to like Anakin. 

Yes, I'm pro Jedi, and funnily enough, my feelings regarding how Anakin treated the Jedi are just the cherry on top of the huge pile of why I don't like Anakin.

Why I don't like Anakin: Simply put, I've encountered people like him in my own life, including my own mother, and that means I do not have the patience for a character that's like a person I'm low contact with in real life. 

Anakin is enough like my mom that I have written him with how my mom would react in mind. Sure she's not actually murderous, but she is very emotionally immature and takes things personally. 

I am still untangling the damage she did to me growing up, and realizing how much she did that wasn't right now that I am raising my own children.

Worse, I am like my mom, and like Anakin. They are what I could be if I wasn't putting in the work to be a good person. If I wasn't trying to always learn from my mistakes. If I wasn't always trying to step back from my emotions to recognize I'm being irrational. 

And that scares me. I could be like Anakin. And that is why I don't like him. I don't want to write a character who isn't good, who is who I could be. I don't want to work at making someone better when I know it will take a miracle to change his mind, after my experiences with my mom.

Nope. Not happening. 

So. I don't like Anakin. I love the Jedi Order. Two separate statements that for me are not connected. They are separate choices for me. 

[fictionadventurer]

I don't care if The Last Jedi "ruined your childhood" or "destroyed a beloved character". I'll always defend it because this is the Star Wars movie for scrupulous people.

[peachviz]

“Tenderness and Passion are the only weapons which will save man from self-destruction” -D.H. Lawrence

The Order of Death

[nat-20s]

I am trying so hard not to be mad about star wars anymore but every fucking day the publishing industry tests me. I'm thinking about rewriting the laws of time to stop It (the last Jedi)

[roguemonsterfucker]

I need that "I bring a lot of __ energy that __ doesn't like" meme

but it's "I bring a lot of comparing the jedi to christianity that star wars fans don't like"

[star-trek-dumb-comics]

I just want to say that I appreciate how nice you are about your dislike of the newer Star Trek shows. Like you don't trash them and everyone who likes them, you politely state that you don't like them and choose not to watch them. It's seriously so refreshing.

Lol I'm glad I come out that way because this does not come naturally to me, I am a hater at heart

[stargazerdaisy]

Had a funny conversation last night where a person I just met and I were talking and Star Wars came up and he commented that The Last Jedi was The Worst Star Wars movie ever and I gasped and acted horrified, because it's my favorite (and the best) Star Wars movie and he was so discomfited that I had that opinion that he had to start asking me why, because he could see I was passionate about it and he couldn't fathom why I loved it, and as we talked and I told him some of the things I found so compelling about it, he admitted he agreed with the points I was making, but we never quite got to finish the conversation and I was just so hideously amused by it all the entire time and finding myself vacillating between wanting to let it go because we don't need to fight about it and wanting to lovingly troll him for it.

[computers-best-friend]

Watched the last Jedi for the first time since it came out and for psychological reasons I have convinced myself that it is a good movie and everything went exactly as I wanted it to 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

[weedle-testaburger]

i don't mean to sound like i'm bigging myself up but i find it a bit annoying how it often feels like i'm the only person on the internet who'll go 'this thing isn't really my cup of tea' or 'this thing just doesn't vibe with me' rather than 'i didn't like this thing so it Must Be Bad'

[comradecowplant]

I was on board for the season 1 nostalgia circle jerk (ily Seven ❤❤❤), I could even overlook the Interesting "put him in a scifimagic flesh & blood android body that will have zero further consequences to either Picard's personal journey or the greater scientific reality of such an invention" choice, but season 2 skywalker family legacy "Picard's ancestor is so important that she needs a secret time agency body guard thatfornoreasonlooksliketheladyhehasawilltheywonttheywith" baloney is not doing it for me. The entire season so far coulda been a TNG Q/time travel shenanigans 2-parter. Best part is the toxic yuri between Borg Queen and doc "we've got bad Marvel one-liners at home" jurati, otherwise I'm sadly getting pretty bored with Picard.