#also we are literally traumagenic with a cdd we just also have some other stuff going on

[shitty-proendo-blackout-posts]

"mixed-origins system" you mean faker that doesn't want to be as obvious by saying endo

hi

[antiendovents]

(same person who made the last ask, pls delete it cause I got some stuff wrong and don't want to spread misinfo, remaking it)

got inspired by the anon venting about sysboxes to make this

1 - am I the only one who thinks its weird that they made an exception for the pro endo mod just because they're friends?? especially since many of the mods have said they've been harrased by endos, yet they let a pro endo mod

2 - "The DNI of this blog still stands. I’m simply an exception due to being the type of person I am." ok so you don't actually have a dni

3 - no you're no anti endo if you let a pro endo mod. you're just traumagenic exclusive.

4 - I think I could write a whole essay on how much this thing they said annoys me: "look past a syscourse label and understand the desire to make the lives of CDD systems a little bit better surpasses petty online drama."

5 - petty online drama. wow. yeah lets support a group that has manipulated, lied to, and confused so many cdds but also say we want to make their lives better.

6 - they were like the biggest anti endo account. why are cdds never allowed spaces away from endos.

(obligatory they can do whatever they want with their blog, they don't need permission for anything, also harassment is stupid)

((we posted the other one before we got this, but it's deleted now, don't worry anon ^_^))

but yeah, we agree with you! We'll format our opinions in the same way you formatted yours!

1- it is weird in our opinion and reminds us very much of those kind of discord servers that for some reason let the staff break the rules without consequence yet blow up at the members of they do the same.

2- yeah, it doesn't really feel like a DNI, more or less just words slapped on there at this point.

3- same as above, it feels like their blog is basically just endo-neutral and traumagenic exclusive under the label of anti endo. If that makes sense. Like It feels less like they're anti endo now and more like a "oh, I say I don't support it, but if they're nice sure I'll let it slide" type thing.

4- we see people say that a lot and we can't stand it. No, we will not look past "syscourse labels" because we do not want to interact with or even be near anyone who supports endos, who have and still do spread harmful misinformation.

5- yeah, it's not "petty online drama", it's survivors of literal childhood trauma wanting a safe space where they can avoid people who mock their disorder + people who support those people who mock it (endos + pro endos)

6- mhm, they were and still are very big, and sure they still claim to be anti endo, but like— if someone claims to be anti trans-ID but then supports someone that is pro trans-ID and even lets them mod their anti trans-ID blog, then are they really anti trans-ID?

((and yeah, don't harass them. That's not cool))

[cambriancrew]

Hey we're The Cambrian Crew, an endogenic system mostly comprised of accidental parogens or soulbonds or both, depending on which of us you ask, and a median subsystem.

Our median system originals, the Willows, formed from ego states that as they grew developed strong differences in values and perspectives and grew more separated and individual over time. Stress pushes them together/makes them more blendy. We know they're endogenic despite trauma because of that, and also none of them remember anything the others don't (though each remembers from their own perspective), and they're literally inseparable - they're eternally coconscious and copresent with each other. Most of the rest of us are parogens, headmates created through focused attention and repeated interaction and meditation. All of us non-Willows are fictives of some sort, mostly intended to be characters for fiction we write. Some of us fictives view the world we're from as being as real as the external world here, and still retain a connection to it, and so view our creation as being more a matter of spiritually connecting to us, making us soulbonds. Either way, there was a time when we weren't in the same body and brain as the Willows, and a moment in time when we started to exist there.

The Willows don't have a "why" - they're just how the brain/mind/soul(s) naturally developed primarily due to internal factors. Some of us the rest of us were intended to be characters and muses. Some of us are here due to what we perceive to have been a strong resonance, either psychologically as a concept that the brain felt would fit with us and was needed/would need us, spiritually as someone needed/would need us and that would literally vibe with us, or both. Two of us, me (Ameda) and my twin brother Daj were created intentionally just to see if our system even could create headmates on purpose. Apparently the answer is yes.

We are not a CDD system, per every psych professional we've seen over the past decade. We're plural but we don't have memory issues outside of what comes with migraines and fibromyalgia flares, and our plurality doesn't cause us dysfunction or distressed, but increases our functioning and decreases our stress. And we don't have issues with general dissociation or derealization or depersonalization.

Nope. Our only shared symptom is plurality, and not all pwCDDs see themselves as plural.

We develop the same way any person does, through experience. The more we front and do stuff, or actively do stuff in the innerworld instead of just dozing half-conscious semi-dormant, the more we learn about ourselves and figure out what we like and are good at and how to handle things.

We're pretty self-sufficient so no.

Every system is different. We've met traumagenic systems that are a lot like us, endogenics that are very different. And, we know traumagenics without CDDs, and endogenics with CDDs.

Our trauma is separate from our origins. If we blamed trauma, we'd be ignoring our own role in our origins as a system, and that would be shirking responsibility. Besides, we've done literally thousands of hours of searching our memories and such, and we know our origins extremely well. We have trauma, it has affected us, but we're not here because of it, but in spite of it.

Thanks for the questions and genuinity! Hope this helps.

Hi! My name's Rowan. I'm the host of The Orchard System, A traumagenic DID system. I'm posting to address endogenic systems and ask a couple genuine questions. None of these are intended to cause offense or in any way discriminate against any group of people.

How did you form (scientifically)?

Why did you form?

Do you consider yourself disordered?

Do you have similar symptoms to systems with OSDDID, such as dissociation, memory loss, loss of sense of self, etc.?

How do your alters/headmates develop? What do they develop due to?

I've seen this going around: What are some resources that would help you that you don't have access to?

Are there any other substantial differences you have noticed between yourself/yourselves and OSDDID systems?

And, lastly, if you don't mind (I put this one at the bottom because it is 100% optional) if you are traumatized but not traumagenic, how does that work?

okay thanks byeeeeeeee