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Monica, I have a Last Twilight theory even if the show its not on air yet sorry to share and I want to know your thoughts on it, if you don't mind ofc!
What if everytime Mork and Day kiss, Day don't close (or partially close) his eyes cause he wants to see Mork as much as he can before losing his vision????
Just the thoughts i have when I was supposed to be sleeping....
WHAT IF MY THOUGHTS ONLY CONSIST OF [10_HOURS_GOAT_SCREAMING.MP3] PLAYING CONTINUOSLY IN MY BRAIN
IM LITERALLY SITTING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE OFFICE TRYING TO ACT FINE WHEN IM NOT REALLY FINE BECAUSE AMIDST ALL THE GOAT SCREAMING THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT POPPED UP IN MY HEAD WAS THIS SCENE FROM THE TRAILER
AND LIKE. i do think this is possibly going to be their first kiss (or maybe their second one) and from day's point of view it makes so much sense that he would want to keep his eyes open for it so that he could retain an image of mork in his head. maybe itās just gonna be the blurry shape of his eyes, the slope of his nose, the curve of his ear, but theyāre all details that in dayās mind will always remain inherently morkās, like the smell of cigarette smoke, the gentleness of his touch, the soft lilting sound of his voiceā¦.
i also like the idea that, usually, sight plays a big part in falling in love with someone, and itās only when two people kiss that they close their eyes to focus on the action and let the other senses take over, but for day is gonna be quite the opposite: heās gonna have to learn to rely on different senses, and itās through those that heās gonna fall in love, so i think it would be beautiful if only when he finally kisses mork, only when he finally closes even that last one palm distance between them, his sight is gonna come into play a little to give him one final picture of mork
#anon you're just like me fr i spend my nights thinking about them too#also theories and speculations are the only things that are gonna keep me alive until the show airs#so never apologize for sending me those!!!!#btw im always gonna try to be mindful when i speak about this show but if i end up saying something wrong please let me know#last twilight#last twilight the series#morkday#m: ask
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THE POPPY PLAYTIME CHAPTER 3 TRAILER IS SOOO!,?!.?.!.
What a great treat to wake up toāExcuse me while I go insane and spill some thoughts, reactions, theories, and predictions below please
ahem
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
SO LIKE FIRST OFF this chapter is gonna fuck, like this looks SO good holy shit
The setting and environment looks amazing but also the new hands mechanic along with the mask ohhhh this is gonna be FUN
Okay rambling about screenshots I took time
First off the environments look great, holy wow
The house itself looks kinda small so idk if that is the orphanage itself or some kind of set. Cause you can see fake sky walls around it, but like this is Playtime Co they would definitely do that to the orphanage also to give an illusion of outside. Either way it looks GREAT and Iām really excited to explore this setting
Just a nice shot of all the critters
Iām really curious if all the critters are gonna be utilized somehow. We know about Catnap and Dogday already, especially after the trailer itself. Though there was also the footage of Bobby running down the hall, looking like a normal plushie, and possibly seeing Hoppy in the trailer too. (Iāll touch on that later)
New Poster
Definitely looks like some company propaganda to try and keep kids from being afraid of CatNap. Judging by the files we got before looks like the results were a mixed bag. Considering the gas is there in the poster itās definitely a company only poster, not something they could sell outside. They manipulated this kids so bad man :(
A CLEANER LOOK OF THIS THING,,,
THATS A SKELETON COMING OUT OF PUGAPILLARāS MOUTHā¦Like thatās just straight up human remains.
I donāt think weāve ever seen that before in this game. Like blood yeah plenty but BONES? Theyāre definitely amping things up for this chapter and Iām 100% here for it.
Besides that thereās a ton of plushies and such stabbed onto this weird thing. Is it a shrine? It doesnāt look like it could really move tbh, and if it was meant to be alive those parts arenāt doing anything to help it.
This poor mf
Iāve seen a lot of people speculate this is DogDay, which is a valid guess, but tbh my first thought was Hoppy. You can tell they have long droopy ears, which lines up with both candidates to me. Though I think the ears look a bit slimmer than what Dog Dayād would be, plus the angle on the head looks more like theyāre dropping from the top of the head rather than the sides. I feel like if this was DogDay the whole head silhouette would be different because of the ears, which makes me lean towards Hoppy more.
I know her toy gives her long pointed up ears, but going off art and animation her ears can definitely fold
So I donāt think itās out of the question that as a Bigger Bodies being her ears could fold over like that, especially while stuck like this.
Now I could be the one wrong here but I really think this is Hoppy. Wonāt know until the game itself though so, I wonāt treat either as divinities yet. It could just as easily be the case everyone else is right and it is DogDay, thereās evidence for that as well (Again, Iāll touch on that later).
So much happened here where do I even start
Obvious out the bat I guess, Kissy Missy is back!! And looks like Poppy isnāt ditching us alone either! Man I cannot tell it Poppy is good or not at this point, gray area? Trailer dialogue definitely sounded like she was supporting us.
āWeāre coming! Just hold on!ā
Itās really nice seeing Kissy back, really excited to see how sheās gonna help and play into this. Iāve been on the stance that sheās good ever since she helped in chapter 2 so this is really cathartic for me lmao.
As for what Poppy says here I found it interesting, like really interesting. Like, hearing it the first time made me think she casually confirmed something massive interesting. Granted, actually thinking about it longer, it could mean something else entirely. But was that the whole point?
āWhatās happening down here is bigger than all of us. I need you. So we can revenge on those monsters whoāve tortured you, whoāve tortured us.ā
āThose monsters whoāve tortured youā
Now, once I thought about it this is most likely referring to the literal monsters in the factory. Huggy, Mommy, CatNap, so on and such. But thatās not what my initial assumption was.
When Poppy referred to āmonstersā, by first thought was the people working at the factory. I thought she said people at the factory tortured us.
I thought she confirmed that weāre a toy.
Once I thought about it longer, it doesnāt actually confirm that. But what if thatās the entire point? A double meaning line?
Now the player being a toy theory is something thatās been around since chapter 1, a theory Iāve fully stood by since then and still do. I like to think thatās why our character is completely silent, weāre a toy that canāt speak. Mute toys is something weāve seen plenty of in the factory, more so than toys that actually talk. (Unless you count stuff like the Smiling Critters cartoon or the cardboard cutouts, but Iām talking purely living beings here.)
So while this doesnāt confirm the theory, this line is definitely throwing wood into the fire for me.
DogDay
Wether or not the chained Bigger Body above us DogDay or Hoppy, we have it confirmed here that DogDay is featured heavily in this chapter as an enemy. Again, I really wonder if the other Smiling Critters will show up as threats as well. Maybe a mixed bag of good and bad critters. If the chained up Bigger Body is DogDay, I wonder why he chases us after we assumingely set him free.
One note Iāll give that is to evidence for the chained bigger body being DogDay is that in the thumbnail you can see a shackle on his wrist
His arms are also long and lanky, which is why I wonāt completely rule out it possibly being him there. Itās just as possible that it is him, both feel very plausible to me.
Though looking at the game footage, Iām not sure if can can see anything on his wrists. Additionally his arms look much wider than the one in thumbnail.
Additionally, the DogDay in the thumbnail looks so much like aā¦mascot suit? You can see seams and stitches all over him. Even other Bigger Bodies donāt look like that. Which is something I wanna give its own post to to figure deeper on.
So is this even the same DogDay at all?
Itās not completely out of the question there could be multiple DogDays, though that begs the question, what about other Smiling Critters? What about other toys as a whole?
Hereās my prediction on it. One Bigger Bodies experiment, and then thereās smaller ones approximately the size of their normal toys.
I think the DogDay in the thumbnail is a result of the Bigger Bodies testing, and the one actually chasing us is just a smaller more ānormalā DogDay.
But if thatās true then it begs the question, what about other critters? Weāve seen a smaller Bobby before, does she also have a Bigger Bodies version?
Do they all have a Bigger Bodies equivalent?
Is there still a normal CatNap?
Again, all speculation but this chapter especially is really tickling my brain.
And finally weāve got the man of the hour
Man he is so much lankier than I thought he would be. That definitely explains why his face was so high up on that one cam footage though. Here I was thinking heād be bulky!
There isnāt too much to say here other than CatNap is definitely gonna be an imposing threat, and Iām very excited to see him in game. So far weāve mainly seen him through silhouettes, and light peeks at small portions of his design. Seeing him better is game is gonna be a thrill and Iām so ready for it!
Additionally, just for the sake of adding on, weāve seen these posters apparently from overseas get spread around lately
Both of these definitely look like theyāre meant to be company only posters, ones youād find in the schooling and orphanage areas.
The left poster telling kids to go inside right away when recess is up, nothing super deep here. Just a peek at the schooling that had here, and that these kids had their lives completely contained within the factory.
The second poster is CatNap telling Huggy to go to sleep, another attempt at convincing children CatNap isnāt dangerous. If Huggy is fine they will be too, right?
Anyways thatās my initial thoughts and reactions right after watching the trailer. VERY excited about this game, itās been awhile since Iāve been able to brainstorm on my own over a game like this so Iām really looking forward to what this chapter has to give.
#long post#poppy playtime#poppy playtime chapter 3#catnap#poppy playtime catnap#huggy wuggy#kissy missy#dogday#poppy playtime theory
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RECAP OF CELLBIT'S STREAM, 05/05
investigating quesadilla island!! the man has gone full detective and lore mode. here's a link of my recap of his previous stream if you want to catch up. only updating on the first 5 hours of stream, since after he switches to more casual building/chatting
cellbit's plan for the day is investigating the mystery within quesadilla island. he even got a special skin for this occasion
he started a diary to keep notes of what he finds within his investigations. i compiled what he wrote so far and translated it in this file
he also finished his office/investigation room!! its under his house
he left the favela with philza and he's asking phil some questions regarding how they got to the server and how his days in the server went by so far
philza is telling him about his experience exploring the structures he found in the sky and his encounter with the binary code entity, which fit exploded with a bomb
philza gave cellbit the coordinates he got from the entity (2530, 66, 1892)
he's now asking philza about the eggs
(this section of the stream is in english, in case anyone is interested. i will get the correct timestamps once vode is out, but roughly it should be around 30 mins in until the 1 hour mark)
he's now heading to the train station where everyone arrived to investigate
after not finding anything other than the puzzles (which weirded him out due to why such a thing would need to exist and why it feels like everyone is being tested), he moved to explore the ship where the brazilians arrived
he's revisiting the puzzle found in the ship with the letters/flags. it involves the international code of signals. the letters were KXUT, meaning the following:
āāāāK - "i wish to communicate with you"
āāāāX - "stop carrying out your intentions and watch for my signals"
āāāāU - "you are running into danger"
āāāāT - "keep clear of me"
cellbit believes it was like a warning for them to not approach the island
he went to meet up with maximus and foolish. he's telling them about when he got attacked by the binary code entity
they all went to his office and are now discussing the flag puzzle/codes
they're rewatching the tapes now
cellbit, foolish and maximus are heading to the coordinates phil gave cellbit earlier
the location is close to luzu's house, and foolish explained to cellbit what has been supposedly going on with luzu and an ai called erin (i have personally not been keeping up with this part of the qsmp, so im not entirely sure)
(once again, this section is in english if you want to watch for yourself. will get exact timestamps later, but roughly between tge 2 hour and 3 hour mark)
RICHARLYSON STEPPED ON A MINE MY GOD MY HEART I WAS SO SCARED HE WAS GONNA DIE. hes fine tho!!!
they're speculating the federation got luzu and thats why he hasnt been on the server. also that the building they found (picture above) is how luzu's mind stays alive and in the server somehow, since it looks like a machine
rip tree
theyre speculating the number "8" on the building might be counting the eggs that are currently alive
cellbit's main theory right now is that they're stuck in a simulation and are being tested
cellbit also mentioned he doesnt think the eggs are real or that theyre a way to manipulate them to stay in the island and not search for a way to leave. obviously, the others dont want to believe that
(guys i think cellbit is going a bit insane)
cellbit thinks they should find a way to break out of the simulation
cellbit is now speculated that when the eggs got kidnapped the federation placed something inside the eggs, thats why theyre cracked. bbh added that maybe they took a sample out of them to do experiments
theyre discussing ways to try and break out of the simulation/leave the island
A BOOK WITH BINARY CODE SHOWED UP ON HIS INVENTORY ???? the code translates to "LEAVE"
theyre going to try and see if they can leave the island by following the train rails. the eggs will stay with poor philza minecraft
AS SOON AS THEY LEFT, PHILZA AND THE EGGS GOT ATTACKED BY THE BINARY CODE ENTITY HOLY SHIT????????? thankfully, bbh placed a teleporter thing and they all managed to go back quickly. however, once they arrived the binary code entity was already gone
after that, they gave up on exploring the rails and all went their separate ways
bobby drowned while trying to escape the binary entity.
cellbit is really scared right now that richarlyson might be attacked again, he feels guilt somehow since he believes the entity is attacking because of what he has been doing/saying
cellbit was watching the clip of philza and the eggs being attacked. he realized it was initially cucorucho who turned into the binary entity
the binary code on the entity translates to "AI" ...... possibly linking back to the luzu situation they were discussing earlier
the next session of the stream is cellbit and richarlyson expanding the basement to include more stuff. cellbit also plans to make an interrogation room for people he thinks are suspicious (quackity)
theyre now going to visit roier and bobby. richarlyson made bobby a little gift :)
cellbit told roier that he thinks the attacks are his fault. cellbit told him it was probably a warning from the entity
cellbit also told him that cucorucho became one of the binary entities
maximus is building a transmission tower to send messages in all languages to the server. cellbit is absolutely losing it at his portuguese
they went back home to keep working on the basement
cellbit is teaching richarlyson how to play chess (this is an important update). richarlyson lost, but cellbit told him to just shoot the opponent when he loses
quackity logged on and cellbit mentioned he might interrogate quackity on sunday
as cellbit was ending his stream, cucorucho showed up on his basement
now, over 5 hours into the stream, cellbit will be changing into more casual minecraft gameplay to work on his base and overall taking a break soon. i will be closing the stream and ending this post. will update later if anything more happens!! once again, feel free to dm me/send asks if you have any questions, comments or requests for clips/timestamps/translations <3
#qsmp#qsmp br#cellbit#richarlyson#richarlyson the egg#maximus#iroier#foolishgamers#badboyhalo#philza#stream recap#long post#boli recaps
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Theory: Merlin's Recent Publicity and its Correlation to a Possible Sequel/Revival/Reboot (+Eoin Macken's Pseudo Merlin Project)
'Ello. Fancied sharing my thoughts on recent developments regarding BBC's Merlin.
Fair, firm warning: I'm only sharing speculations and my personal opinions on the matter, and I do not advertise them as fact whatsoever. Consider them musings (or delusions, your choice). You can use this to further fuel your hope of the slim chance that this beloved show will see the light of day once again or maybe make theories of your own. Dispelling it is also an option, as I cannot assure my arguments would be free from flaws.
Right. Without further ado...
Revival of the Official Merlin Twitter Account
Let's put this into scenario.
Imagine a dated piece of media, previously well-known worldwide and had its own golden age for a time. This media launched the last of its contents over a decade ago, yet it gained a loyal, devoted following that persisted to grow and continued the legacy of the franchise over the years. Though there were highs and lows, the community remained alive for an impressive amount of time, steadily producing art, fiction, and creations dedicated to the media, despite not having anything new to work with. This devotion is acknowledged by those from an outsider's perspective, including the creators of this media (cast, staff, and distributors alike).
To put into context, the community was left unsatisfied with how the media ended, and many wished for the media to return. Articles were written, petitions were signed, comments left on the cast' social media accounts, and even questions were asked directly to them. Although different in wording, the inquired notion remained the same: Will there be a possibility of a sequel/revival/return/reboot? The answers range from a neutral, vague reply to a more resounding no.
This cycle persisted, but the people were immovable; they were visionaries and their dream lived on in their hearts. And this did not go unnoticed.
So it continued... until one of the media's social accounts made a sudden return. Out of nowhere, without a warning. They're back for good, the account announced. It sent the community into a frenzy. But if you took a step back from the excitement, you'd notice that it's strange. Why would a media ended over a decade ago suddenly be promoted again?
Now, I'm going to explore two possibilities; pragmatic and idealistic. The previous hypothetical scenario lays the general principal of Merlin's relevance (duh).
I'll make the pragmatic perspective brief. FremantleMedia saw the opportunity to make some bucks from Merlin because of the loyal fanbase, using a no-cost yet effective method to keep us tuned in; hoping. OMG, what does this mean? Does this mean they're going make a sequel?! Holy shit, they're teasing us, aren't they? I can't believe this is happening, it's a dream come true! And so on and so forth. Evidently, it works and numbers are growing. The official Merlin twitter account is racking up more followers and likes with each post. In this possibility, there's no such thing as a sequel/whatever it is the fanbase hopes for; just a reanimated corpse doing the same silly tap dance while we holler at it, dumbly hoping that they bust out new moves.
Now, the fun part. The idealistic version!
I'm going to use a real life example for my theory: the upcoming release of Dragon's Dogma 2. With a quick Google search, you can learn that Dragon's Dogma 2 is the highly awaited sequel for its well-liked predecessor, Dragon's Dogma.
For some time, Dragon's Dogma was on sale on Steam (with a decent cut too). This was done to gain the attention of...
1. those who haven't previously dived into the franchise. It's to make them think 'Wow! This game's so good. Oh, there's a sequel of it that's gonna be released soon? With even better graphics and gameplay? Sign me the fuck up!'. You liked Blueberry Cheesecake, so it'd make sense that you'd be more open to buying Double Blueberry Cheesecake, Premium Ingredients Addition, with 2 additional paid toppings.
2. Veterans and nostalgic fans. 'They're promoting the game I liked years ago... Oh, well, it won't hurt to play it again, just for the nostalgia. It never really left my mind anyway."
In other words: hype! hype! hype!
If using this principle, then the possibility of a sequel/revival/reboot/new content exists. It's either being processed (wishful thinking, not as likely) or being considered (more likely). If it's the latter, then they're testing the waters to see how much people still care/how much money they'll make. The more attention and hype it gets, the higher the likelihood.
Simplified:
P (old media pushed for publicity) -> Q (hype built)
Q (hype built) -> R (new content)
Eoin Macken's Pseudo Merlin Project
If I recall correctly, Eoin Macken first announced a pseudo Merlin project in late 2020. It's first teased to be released in 2021, but nothing came out of it so far (at the time of writing this) except if you count the small handful of times Macken hinted it over the ongoing four year period.
Now, I understand his position. First and foremost, he needs the legal rights to actually produce anything and it's no easy feat when you're dealing with a massive company. Then there's the issue of costumes, props, sets, and equipment. A lot to consider. To put it simply, he must offer the company something worth more than the show itself or contribute in their favor in some way. Macken seems like a charming and capable guy, so he can make it work. Probably.
I lean towards the spin-off theory because a cast reunion would not take four years. As far as I know, Macken is close with the knights and they could get together at any convenient time. If the project was a zoom call or a recorded get-together, it would've been released already. To compare, by using the average of 385,000 babies born each day during the last three years, we have 421,575,000 newborns before the Pseudo Merlin Project.
I want to tie this in with the previous theory, but eh. It can connect, but not really. I don't have any further explanation or evidence since Macken hasn't given any news.
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Anyways. That's enough of this. I hope it made sense, at least it did to me. I'm entering my third year in the fandom, so I'm relatively new and still hopeful. (Though I try hard to keep my feet on the ground while I stare up at the clouds.)
To end this post, I'd like to say: keep hoping. Hope is such a stupidly beautiful thing, and it should be nurtured. Turn that feeling into art, into efforts.
There are franchises revived 2-3 decades after, and Merlin is no exception.
#bbc merlin#merlin#merlin meta#merlin emrys#eoin macken#bradley james#tom hopper#rupert young#tomiwa edun#merlin bbc#theories
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Hypothesis: Rejecting Dark Magic Could Save Viren's Life? Season 5-6 Theory!
This theory/speculation/thought experiment won't leave me alone so I'm gonna officially shout it out into the world!
There's a chance that Viren could maybe have unfucked saved himself.
We're all wondering - did Viren survive season 5? Has he kicked the bucket for good this time? Or is he like that cockroach you just can't get rid of?
I have some unfortunate (or maybe fortunate) news! Viren could definitely be alive!
And it's about dark magic, power, and fever dreams!
Those dark magic dreams Viren had all season had to mean something more! A push for Claudia to go full baddie? Yeah, most likely. We've all seen the Season 6 teaser.
But what if those fever dreams meant something... more?
What if it leads up to more than just Viren's ultimate end?
tl;dr - What if by rejecting dark magic, Viren unknowingly saved his own life? AKA: I dive into Viren's mind, and try to decipher his character arc a teeny bit.
Let's goooooo-
I have little evidence to back up this 'what if'. But I have something, however small.
So, to start this off:
"Tomorrow, the sun will rise, and you will not."
At first this sounds pretty clear - and it might still be! Viren could be sleepin' with the Xadian fishes. But when has Aaravos ever been perfectly clear? Mr 'I Swallowed Her' speaks in riddles and rhymes, and does he even know what the fuck he's talking about? (of course he knows, he's Aaravos, what am I thinking-)
One alternative take on this cryptic little message could be that the old Viren can't come to the phone right now. Because he's dead.
Viren rejected dark magic for the first time ever! He finally sees what Harrow has been seeing all along - dark magic twists you, twists everything around you, into corruption. We can see this with the corrupted Banthers - and Viren's face.
The sun will rise, and the old Viren will be dead.
But perhaps in his place will come a new man - one with a new goal, a new purpose, new motivations. In writing-terms, this means Viren will basically be a whole new character.
Characters are defined by their goals and motivations.
Since the beginning, Viren's goal has been somewhat the same (a bright future for humanity by using dark magic and overthrowing Xadia). But things have changed for Viren, especially during Seasons 4-5. Viren is completely powerless for the first time since Arc One.
Lord Viren has always been a character defined by his power. Even without using dark magic, he can still influence others to bend to his will.
Example image: Lord Viren threatening the young Crowmaster to summon the Pentarchy.
Lord Viren also takes Gren off the mission to find the missing princes, effortlessly placing Soren and Claudia in charge seconds after Amaya left. Viren convinced Soren to go and kill the princes on this mission.
Whenever his power and authority is threatened, Viren keeps pushing forward. Like the dark mage he was, Lord Viren keeps pushing until he gets the desired outcome. Soren said it best:
So, the truth is,Ā someone who wants you to do horrible things, and convinces you that they're good, that's a villain. My dad... is a villain. And he's only gonna get more powerful, and the more powerful he gets, the more people will listen to him, and believe him, and follow him.
Meeting Aaravos is a pivotal moment in Viren's further pursuit of more power. Aaravos promises Viren more power and influence than ever before. Aaravos guides Viren to send the smoke assassins after the other kingdoms to motivate them by fear. Aaravos brings out the worst in Viren by targeting this fatal weakness.
Ultimately, Aaravos guides Viren to further pursue his hunger for more power. Viren convinced Claudia that Soren misunderstood the assignment of 'kill the princes' (dick move, Viren).
Then they march into Xadia, and take down the Sunfire Kingdom. And Aaravos takes Viren to the top of the Storm Spire to capture every essence of magic from baby Zym.
Power, power, and more power. Take a sip of water every time I write 'power', honestly.
So Viren falls to his death, and Claudia brings him back 2 years later. The fourth season begins, and Viren is already different. He is powerless. He isn't even wearing his High Mage attire, instead he's in bloodied and dirty prisoner clothes.
He's travelling with an elf, and he doesn't have his staff. He realises he doesn't even want his staff anymore. He's suddenly horribly afraid of heights, and is obviously frustrated about how he's losing power over everything.
His own mind and body are warring against him. He's going to die in 30 days, and he's experiencing panic attacks. Viren is falling apart worse than his tattered clothes.
And after he finally uses dark magic? He ends up passing out, and missing out on his last few days alive. Instead he's thrust into visions for days on end. Interesting to note that Callum didn't suffer from his own visions as long as Viren did. (perhaps because Viren does indeed have a long history of dark magic?)
These visions take Viren into his past, makes him look at everything in a new way. He sees the harm he caused, sees every scar he left on the world. In his pursuit of power, he ripped everything he loved apart. Including his own children. Soren hates him, and Claudia is diving deeper and further than Viren had ever gone.
It is the vision of Claudia that seems to shake Viren the most. To see what corrupted path he has laid out for his children horrifies him. To see Claudia follow this path so eagerly puts the final nail in the coffin.
No dark magic, never again.
Viren is done with dark magic, and he's done with Aaravos. He's done with his pursuit of power. He's ready to be free.
Interesting to note is that his past self is the one reaching out and holding on here. Reconnecting with his roots, his oldest beliefs.
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At the end of the season, Viren is the most powerless he has ever been.
Laying under the stars, he cannot even find comfort in their shine. They remind him of Aaravos, and of all the mistakes Lord Viren has made. He certainly doesn't feel free.
He's chosen not to kill The Being, he's chosen to align himself with his roots. His roots as a young man dreaming of things far bigger than himself. He turns his eyes away from the stars, no longer reaching for them. Instead he closes his eyes, and awaits death's embrace.
What happens next?
Well, maybe the rejection of his old life leads him to find a new path. Maybe rejecting the call of dark magic puts him out of Aaravos' reach, and he can finally become someone better.
But I guess we won't know for certain until Season 6. So pls share your own thoughts and observations! I'd love to see what you all come up with!
#viren#dragon prince#these theories are just pouring outta me#where are they even coming from???#anyway i hope you enjoy my 2am ramblings#i wrote this during a power outage#sweating profusely#because it's so hot#despite the fact that it's literally raining outside#but summer rain can do that#anyway#viren might survive!#or maybe not#it really depends on what the writers decide#but i think he's alive#i don't think the writers will end his life so tragically#doesn't seem to align with the overall hopeful tone of the dragon prince#i might add onto this#but for now#PLEASE tell me your thoughts!#thanks for reading my garbage!!#tdp#the dragon prince#theory#dragon prince theory#dragon prince meta#dragons#princes#and mages#and high mages
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BnHA Chapter 304: The Council of OFA
Previously on BnHA: Hawks and Best Jeanist were all, āwhat up Todofam, we are here to apply for the positions of āson #4ā and āweird uncleā, respectively,ā and then proceeded to insert themselves into the family drama without waiting for an answer. Hawks briefed Endeavor on the nationās current status of ātotally fuckedā, promised to help him sort that out, and then asked him about OFA. Endeavor was all, āoh do you mean One For All, the mysterious thing that my intern Deku was apparently being targeted for?ā and then we cut away, presumably before Endeavor could clarify that it never occurred to him to follow up on that, and Hawks was all āno of course not, why would it occur to anyone other than me to follow up on any of this super weird and ominously important shit.ā Anyway so meanwhile Bakugou was all āLET ME SCREAM AT DEKU UNTIL HE WAKES UPā and the other kids were all āNOā, and then the chapter ended with All Might being all āI wonder what the vestige!me is currently chatting with Deku about.ā
Today on BnHA: Deku drops in on the Vestiges, who are all āsup Deku, how do you like our fancy chairs.ā OFA II and III are all āif you need us weāll just be standing here silently in the corner pretending to be invisible and sparking endless discourse with our mere existence.ā OFA IV is all āand now I will explain to you in a very convoluted way that you being quirkless was actually a good thing, since it means that you are probably not going to suddenly drop dead at the age of twenty. But also youāre probably going to be the last user of OFA for that very same reason.ā Deku is all āthat is wild. Iām just gonna stand here and stare at my hand.ā Nana is all āso now that thatās settled could you please do me a small favor and kill my grandson for meā, because having just one topic to discourse about this week WASNāT ENOUGH, apparently. Thanks so much Horikoshi.
(ETA: okay so just a note before I start, this weekās RHA translation was a huge mess, so I followed up this chapter by reading a couple of other translations. the main one Iām using for reference is the one by @hanashimasā, whose weekly posts I highly recommend. anyway so youāll see a couple of ETAs in this post in places where the initial translation was off.)
how many layers of bandages did they wrap this poor kidās fucking hand in omg
jesus Deku. are you holding onto a bouquet of flowers under that thing?? or a tennis racket??
omg yes, finally
is he reading these names off a teleprompter lol. and if so, what has Jeanist ever done to slight you, Deku?Ā āgod bless Kacchan and Aizawa-sensei and Todoroki-kun and everyone else in the whole wide world... except for Best Jeanist. fuck that guy.ā actually this joke would be funnier if half of tumblr didnāt legit feel that way lol but anyway
OH MY GOD
I NEED TO HAVE A TALK TOO. ABOUT, OH, EVERYTHING
I got immediate KHR vibes from ALL OF THIS. this is seriously such a Vongola aesthetic. āletās use the luxuriously cushioned chairs with the seat backs that are ten feet high, and arrange all of the handsome ghost people in a big circleā like come on
that said there are also some slight LoTR vibes as well.Ā ābring forth the ring, Dekuā
I like how Six is sitting there with his feet drawn up all casual, but with his arms inexplicably sticking STRAIGHT OUT IN FRONT OF HIM and dangling over his knees like heās doing some sort of zombie walk
apparently the Fourth wasnāt a big fan of shoes huh
interesting that All Might is the only one whoās still faint/indistinct, and and that Two and Three are fully visible
(ETA: the rest of my speculation about Two and Three has been moved into a separate post, the better to focus on the shit thatās actually happening in this chapter lol.)
and lastly, interesting that all of them are talking now, except for All Might (and I guess the Second and Third as well). to the best of my knowledge Deku hasnāt unlocked the Sixthās quirk yet, so I guess the quirks donāt really have anything to do with it
oh and it looks like Dekuās mouth is still covered. I guess thatās convenient for the vestiges since we all know itās hard to stop Deku once he gets going. but on the other hand itās very inconvenient for people like me who wanted to see some interaction. alas
so First says that OFAās power has grown a lot in the last four months (i.e. since Deku unlocked Blackwhip), and now the vestiges can communicate with each other as well as Deku
so even when Dekuās not around they can all just chill with each other. this is such a weird thing to me lol. like itās cool, donāt get me wrong, but itās also strange as hell to know that youāve got eight other people hanging out in your head spying on everything you do and having conversations with each other about it. it would be like if Dark Shadow had someone to hang out with other than Tokoyami. good thing you werenāt triplets, Tokoyami
First says that itās become easier for the vestiges to interact with Deku ever since TomurAFO barged into the OFA Domain back at Jakku. huh
(ETA: apparently this is because AFO forcibly pulled out OFAās power when he was trying to steal the quirk, so I guess that makes sense.)
okay thank you Banjou for addressing this concern which I initially brought up as a joke, but which was apparently real enough for you to reassure Deku about
ādonāt worry, even though weāre awake and hanging out inside of you at all times, weāre definitely not secretly watching and making fun of every single thing you doā hmmmmm
(ETA:Ā ānot that you could do anything about it even if we were, since youāre probably going to be the last OFA holder ever!ā I donāt trust anything this asshole says lmao.)
OH SHIT??
YESSS DEKU now you can hold them accountable for all of their bullshit! because I do not doubt that there will be bullshit lol but letās see how that goes
oh damn
well okay then. you didnāt have to stand up and walk over to him and loom all threateningly like that but okay sir
this guy has kind of a Kimimaro vibe to him. remember? that bone-growing guy from Naruto? except Iām pretty sure he had eyebrows. and wasnāt twenty feet tall. speaking of which, that explains the chairs
why are you wearing only 3/5ths of a shirt
lol what
someoneās gonna have to explain this to me. is he just redundant or something lol, or is he strangely poetical or what
(ETA: apparently HEāS MAKING A PUN omg. I immediately gained +10 love for him lol. also it flows a lot better in Japanese. this is one of the things Caleb is usually good at, so weāll see what he does with the wordplay.)
omg the hermit theory is true!!
āIāM NOT WEIRD, ITāS SOCIETY WHICH IS WEIRD.ā lol whatever you say buddy. also love how Banjou tried to give him a big hearty slap on the back but Hermit Boy was not having it lmao
IS HE TRYING TO CAPTURE HIM WITH BLACKWHIP
AND ACTUALLY, NO, SIR, AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE ARE NOT AWARE. SO SPILL!!
?!!?
okay my first response was LOL ARE YOU SERIOUS, THATāS THE BIG SECRET!? -- and then it hit me what the significance of ādied from old age... AT AGE FORTYā meant. at which point it was like ā!!!!!ā and then āOH, SHITā
(ETA: thereās also an Iida joke here somewhere but Iām just too tired to make it.)
oh my god oh my god
did he somehow get a copy of the coronerās report or something? like how does he even know that he died fromĀ āold ageā as opposed to any number of other natural causes? ??
but anyway. so this is the quirk singularity coming into play then I guess. but then how come All Might is still alive and ticking?
(ETA: so this is one example of where this weekās translation is a mess lol. apparently the Fourth explains here that he didnāt know what the fuck he died from until All Might researched it. and it turns out there actually was an autopsy lol so there you go.)
so Fourth says he held OFA for eighteen years, and since he knew he would never be strong enough to defeat AFO on his own he basically just spent all his time punching rocks in the woods and training to power the quirk up
oh shit
is he implying that his body literally fell apart?? like thatās how he got the scars on his face? -- IS THAT WHAT KEEPS HAPPENING TO TOMURA, THEN. oh shit
DUDE
so youāre telling me that this quirk actively shortens the lifespan of anyone who uses it?? and my little boy here has had it now for a year already?? fuck me, I have immediately have a TON of thoughts about all this but let me save it until heās done with his explanation
THANK YOU, DEKU
right?? how come All Might didnāt die then. even after he got injured. please donāt tell me he actually is dying still and is just being slow about it because I SWEAR TO GOD
what does this mean??
so what youāre trying to say is you all have NO FUCKING IDEA how long Dekuās gonna be able to hold this quirk before he SUDDENLY DROPS DEAD?! five generations ago this dude was able to hold it for eighteen years, and then four generations later All Might was able to hold it for thirty-odd years or so, and now Deku has it and you all have no clue which way itās gonna go? actually this makes it sound like it really wasnāt OFA that killed the Fourth at all and you guys are just really bad at forming hypotheses. but since youāre making a big plot point out of it I guess it must be true
and donāt think I didnāt notice the part where you said you didnāt have OFA very long and thenĀ ādied while fightingā, Firsto. I want to hear more about that. specifically who you passed the quirk onto before your death
and yes, if we are agreeing that OFA was the cause of the Fourthās death, then the conclusion on this next page is the natural one to draw
so thatās a bit of a relief then, because Deku is quirkless too. so it means he wonāt be able to hold OFA forever (and will probably have to find another quirkless person to pass it on to), but at least he wonāt be randomly dying out of the blue next Tuesday or something
oh my god now heās talking about OFA and AFO and user consciousnesses and all sorts of good theory stuff but itās so much exposition. youāre really gonna make me read all this lol
wait what. why would All Might being quirkless have anything to do with the presence of his vestige in OFA Outer Space Party Land
but Deku is also quirkless and heās clearly visible and chatting with you guys. so what gives. like how much of this is verified fact and how much of it is you guys just shrugging and making stuff up lol
SERIOUSLY, GUYS
BUT DEKU IS ALSO -- you know what, never mind sob. none of this shit makes any sense but whatever
(ETA: seriously, this all seems like an awful lot of speculation on their part. for Dekuās sake I sure hope theyāre right.)
FSSKDJFLSKLKJLKJL ALL MIGHT IS FIFTY-FIVE?!
lol thatās a full ten years past my closest estimate, wow. but this pretty much confirms his age now at last! or at least confirms it within a couple of years, because we know All Might and Nana met when he was in middle school, and he presumably had the quirk by the time he took the U.A. entrance exam. so yeah. gonna go with fifty-five
so they think that because All Might was quirkless, OFA was better able to adapt to his body and became his true quirk, as opposed to being an extra quirk that stacked on top of the one he already had and overwhelmed him. ties in back to the whole āAFO used to bend people to his will by forcing quirks on themā thing, as well as the āNoumus are all mindless because of the strain of having multiple quirksā
Two and Three are really ruining the serious vibe of this scene here lol
they look like theyāre doing the counting for hide and seek
and is this Deku talking now? I was about to get mad at First for implying that quirkless people are somehow freaks, as opposed toĀ ānormalā people jdslk
so in other words, donāt go giving it to your best friend all casually for shits and giggles, Deku. even if it would make a really cool climax for a movie. well shit. maybe thatās why they were so quick to nope back into Dekuās body afterward
so First says that because quirkless people are becoming rarer and rarer, the fact that All Might just happened to stumble upon Deku is ānothing short of a miracle.ā which, yeah, that was definitely a stroke of luck there. being quirkless saved his life. but being quirkless is also part of why he was chosen in the first place, and weāve always known that much
āin other words, kiddo...ā
looks like there was some hurried clone stamp usage going on here lol. but props to RHA as always for putting this scan out so fast, especially given how exposition-heavy this weekās chapter has been
āanyways, that was the main topicā ARE YOU SERIOUS. there are like ten other topics imma need you all to get to here, people
(ETA: seems like this is a mistranslation; the line should actually read something more along the lines of āand now for the main topic.ā)
FFFFFFFFF
āENJOY YOUR CLIFFHANGER THIS WEEK.ā dskfalkjlkjwlgkjl you really went and dumped this discourse on us yet again. fucking...
(ETA: forgot to mention, but as several people mentioned, this seems to be another mistranslation -- rather than asking Deku to kill Tomura as though itās doing her a personal favor, Nana is asking āwill you be able to do it.ā in other words more of an āare you capable of doing itā type of thing. which is a very reasonable question to ask given that Deku is, well, Deku.)
anyways, and the answer is obviously going to beĀ ānoā of course. this isnāt going to end any differently than when the previous Avatars all told Aang to kill Ozai. but I guess it means weāre in for a fun conversation next week
so Nana looks pretty grim here though (nothing at all like the person who once taught All Might the importance of saving people with a smile), and Iām wondering if this means she believes that her grandson is already beyond saving. as in killing him would be a mercy, as opposed to him continuing to live with AFO bending his mind and body to his will. except if that is the case, I think sheās underestimating Tomuraās own will. and definitely underestimating Dekuās will to save
and also, just... Iām so fucking sick of AFO screwing the Shimura family over, honestly. this is exactly what he wanted. well fuck you, guy. you donāt get to have what you want. go out there and save Tomura, Deku. for his sake and for Nanaās. give them some hope. do your thing, boy. canāt wait for your big speech all about it next chapter lol
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Gem Stevenās gem is flipped upside-down. (Theory/Speculation time!)
SPOILERS FOR @spudinacupās SU AU āGone Wrongā!
Also WARNING: long post!
So recently, someone pointed out that Steven has a scar on his torso going across his gemās location, which I found interesting in and of itself. Makes sense, since he wasnāt able to heal it since he DIED and his gem was shoved out of his body before it got the chance to heal him. That slash mark is there now. Wow, neat! Nice detai-
Wait.
Hold on a sec.
Is his gem... flipped upside-down? Well, itās been like this for a while, maybe itās just a creative choi-
...oh.
This is VERY intentional.
So I did some digging, and found much more symbolism and possible foreshadowing, and now I want to throw out my theory about Gem Steven here, including his potential arc and character development. Iāll try to keep everything brief while still blowing your minds, and Iāll try to get across what my jumbled mind has come up with.
Spud please notice me.
I will not be uploading photos to go with everything I say (go reread the comic after this and verify for yourself what all Iāve said), but Iāll show visuals when theyāre necessary. I do not claim ANY of this art as mine (I wish my art was this good ;u; ), all of it belongs to Spudinacup and their SU AU, which has all kinds of hidden symbolism, foreshadowing, and visual cues we havenāt picked up on yet, as Iāve just learned while researching this theory. This aināt your run-of-the-mill AU, everything in here is intentional. Scott Spud doesnāt do coincidences. So Iāll point out that stuff in screenshots.
Okay letās go.
SO! To begin with, letās talk about why his gem may have flipped, and to realize that, we have to know when. We donāt see the gem much, but we do see it constantly through Chapter 1, where it is normal. The pentagon is pointed upward. However, in Chapter 2, this is where we see it flipped upside down. When did that happen? We didnāt see it. I believe it happened in that first scene in the bathroom, right after we left. The butterflies were swarming angrily, and Steven was very lost in thought.
Notice whenever those butterflies appear. They seem to show up every time he thinks about who he is. Is he still Steven, or is he someone else now? Steven is dead. Everyone is mourning him, trying to heal him, but Gem is still here. So if Steven is dead, but Gem is still alive, that must mean he isnāt Steven then, right? But then that undoes everything we learned in āChange Your Mind.ā He IS Steven. Heās always been Steven. But thatās when they were together...
...And so the butterflies swarm.
Notice how the first one shows up when he looks at himself in the mirror. When you look in a mirror, you should see yourself, right? But who IS he? In the show, butterflies represent thoughts and ideas, mostly dark ones, disturbing ones, or ones you donāt want to think about. Well, he already spent WAY too long proving who he was, so now to do it again sucks.
But he isnāt Steven anymore. Heās on the couch being mourned. But heās already proved he IS Steven before, and itās this uncertainty that is making his mind swirl. I believe this is why he flipped his gem. Just upside-down, so itās a small thing no one will notice, while he tries to figure it out. In doing so, heās separated himself from āStevenā, as theyāre not one and the same anymore, and the flipped gem shows this. Heās someone else right now. Maybe. Heās not sure.
So what do we call you for right now? Steven. He already proved he was Steven, so until heās proved otherwise, Steven it is. Now he just has to figure out what exactly that name means and wether or not he still fits that quota.
Flipped gem/Pink Diamond imagery is EVERYWHERE, mostly hidden in drastic shadows or in panels. Itās things you donāt notice at first, until theyāre staring you in the face. See if you can spot them from the 3 screenshots below.
Thereās probably more hidden throughout the comic, these are just the ones Iāve found that I feel confident enough to show as hard evidence.
So, what does it all mean? Weāll talk about the screenshots in order, left to right.
First, the Diamond is hidden as the panel in the center. In it, Human Steven lies upside down while the gem-panel is technically upside right. This can be interpreted in a few ways, but what that means to me is that something isnāt right here. If you flip Steven back around so heās upside right, the gem is now upside down. Notice Gem Steven looking towards his human half on the bottom panel there, clutching his shirt over his gem. Itās a motion weāve seen Steven do a TON throughout the show, anytime heās thinking about Rose/Pink, who he is, or complicated gem stuff as a whole. Because early on, his identity was always shrouded in shadow. THAT is Steven, on the couch, without his gem. So for Gem Steven to call himself Steven is inaccurate, but also not at the same time. Itās all swarming in his head, and thus, the gem is flipped.
Next, heās just broken the rejuvenator. This was probably the hardest to spot of the three, but if you look at the panel where Bismuth asks āfeel better?ā you will see, in the background, a white line cut through the soft pink hues. Look closer. Itās the outline of the gem, but itās flipped correctly this time. This is because Bismuth seems to be the only person NOT saying Steven is dead, and treating his gem half one and the same. Is she unnerved? Yeah, but who WOULDNāT be? This is still Steven weāre talking about, as emotionally blocked as he is. Heās aware of why everyone is being weird around him, so to see Bismuth trying her best to treat him with familiarity instead of a completely different, new, dangerous stranger is really calming and helps to calm the storm a bit.
Notice the gem is flipped correctly. This is because he feels like Steven right now. Bismuth has been constant confirmation that he is still Steven, no matter the circumstances. Notice how his eyes dialate back to a larger size. They do that a lot in the comic, articulating his emotions without changing the rest of his face. Itās a clever detail to keep track of. His eyes grow more relaxed, dialating bigger when she pats his shoulder, asking if he feels better after destroying the weapon that killed him. Itās a huge relief for him to hear. So, the gem is correct.
Finally, we see Bismuth telling Greg that his son is dead, which is very contradictory to what Bis was saying earlier (in Stevenās eyes). Where is the gem on that frame? Look at Stevenās shadow. There it is, facets and all. To us, the gem is correct, but think about it this way: if Steven were actually replaced with the gem in that frame, what would it look like, Pinkās or Whiteās? Thatās right. The point is coming from his feet, meaning it would look more like Whiteās, meaning it is back to being flipped upside down. Again, Bismuth just said Steven is dead, meaning heās back to questioning his whole entire identity. So itās back to being flipped upside-down.
It seems that the orientation of the symbolic gems hidden throughout panels show quite clearly where his head is at in terms of who he is. If itās upside down, heās separating himself from the cold meatball on the couch, whereas when itās normal/upside right, he is associating himself WITH the cold meatball on the couch.
Notice heās been grabbing at his gem a lot recently, too, all things he does while in turmoil over who- or WHAT- he is. He cannot heal right now. He canāt use his powers. Some powers are new and unfamiliar (see the more recent pages where Lapis struck out with water and he blocked with those hexagonal shields/walls). āSteven HEALS people.ā He canāt, so who is he?
This is something heāll need to have an answer to by the time the comic is done, and this is a mission for Gem Steven and Gem Steven alone. If his human half were alive (and content without his gem), heād probably call himself āStevenā no questions asked, since he GOT his answer already, two years ago. But Gem canāt do that, not when everyone keeps drawing all these lines between the two. He needs to learn what being āStevenā means, and know that he is a part of a greater whole, but on his own, he is STILL Steven. Everyone else needs to realize this, too, and stop separating the two. Itās gonna be rough, since it may feel like replacing what they lost, but is it really? Itās going to be a tough road to trek, and I donāt know what anyoneās answer is gonna be (thatās the big mystery here, after all), but Iām here for it.
Remember, all of this has been speculation on what may happen based on facts and clues Spud has presented us with. Iām not claiming to know how Gem Stevenās arc will end, but I am throwing my hat into the ring on where I THINK it will go. Either way, the foreshadowing, symbolism, and unspoken characterizations here have been excellent, and Iām looking forward to seeing everything play out. Spud, your mind is incredible, and whatever youāve got planned over there, Iām confident the answer will be satisfactory.
Iāll shut up now. Thank you for reading this huge meta post, and go read Spudās comic. You can find it at @suaugonewrong or on Spudās Tumblr, which was linked above. If you think Iām wrong or have a counter argument, bring it. Letās talk, cause this is genuinely interesting and fun to dissect. I wanna talk about it OwO
Thank you. You may now continue scrolling.
#LONG POST#IāM SO SORRY#but Spud please notice me#owo#su au gone wrong#su gone wrong#gone wrong su au#meta post#au#theories#speculation#super long post#gem steven#pink steven#human steven#split steven#storpse#trigger warning#theory#idk you donāt find many aus that have this much depth to them#itās nice#and i love it#so thank you#blood#tw blood
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Spike and Faye Pairing Analysis
March 2021
Ah the hit or miss pairing of the century! If you donāt love it, you probably hate it lol. Iām a very analytical person so I love analyzing works of art and overall enjoy deep discussions about them too. I have SO much to say when it comes to Cowboy Bebop (and oh I plan to), but I have decided to start with my very own OTP. Here, I am not really going to discuss Spike and Fayeās feelings for each other, but rather why I think people are drawn to this pairing and why I think they're totally valid. Get ready for a long read!š
ā ļøSPOILER WARNING!!! [MajorĀ Cowboy Bebop and the movie Out of the Past spoilers]ā ļø
First off, letās clear something up. I am confident most of us can agree that Spike was in love with Julia. Some people assume Spike and Faye fans are deranged and disregard Spike and Juliaās romantic relationship to try and make something of Spike and Faye that never was. While some people may have their various theories and opinions on this, generally, I donāt think anyone denies Spikeās love for Julia. As we will see, this pairing is not really driven by who loves who...letās first look on the surface.
I donāt know your experiences with the series, but in mine, every time I show this to people it never fails for someone to say something along the lines of,
āWait, they donāt end up together?ā
āWhy didnāt he kiss her!?ā
āHe should have stayed with her...ā
and so fourth.Ā
Naturally, this pairing catches many eyes.Ā
Think about it, you are given two really cool, really hot and really deep characters that are really fun to see together! There are so many parallels between the two and they are arguably the strongest characters of the bunch. Granted, you can agree with this and still not ship them, but these aspects are part of what opens up the door for many fans of the pairing.
However, there is certainly more to this pairing than them simply looking good together right? As the years pass and Iāve now seen the show multiple times, my understanding of it has evolved in many areas, Spike and Faye included.Ā
Spike and Faye really couldnāt have ended up together. Sure, itās a nice thought, but It would have been an entirely different show if they had. I donāt feel that the show should have happened any other way and I donāt think many other fans would either.Ā
So, what am I saying here?
Whatās the point of this paring if I donāt think they should have ended up together?Ā
It is what's so frustrating about them, yet keeps you coming back and what honestly validates this pairing in my opinion. Spike and Faye are not driven by what is, but rather,Ā what could be.Ā Ā
I personally feel the themes of classic film Noir are not discussed enough when it comes to Cowboy Bebop! This is one of the show's major influences, especially when it comes to the plot and characters.
One of the common tropes of a film noir is that of a protagonist who is drawn back into his past and ultimate doom, usually by the āseductionā of a femme fatale. In these movies, the women are either a femme fatale [devious, dangerous, mysterious, greedy, troubled, or unreliable] or a woman of virtue [reliable, dutiful, trustworthy, conventional and loving].Ā
I am going to use the 1947 classic, Out of the Past to make my comparisons from here on out.
In Out of the Past, Jeff is a former detective who gets caught up in a love triangle between a gangster and his girlfriend Kathie, sound familiar? He attempts to run away with her, but is betrayed and runs off to start a new life in a new town. Here, he meets Ann and falls in love with her, but of course, his past catches up to him and he is drawn back into the world of criminals (largely by Kathieās involvement). This ultimately results in his and Kathieās deaths and Annās heartbreak.Ā
Even though Kathie is the femme fatale in this movie, I found myself comparing her more to Juliaās role in the show, than to Fayeās and I found that Faye actually fit best in Annās role (this is a bit unusual considering Faye is typically seen as the femme fatale of this show).
Does that mean I think Julia was as ill intentioned as Kathie or that Spike fell in love with Faye? Well, not exactly, letās look at it a bit further.
āThe kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just canāt leave alone...Like an angel from the underworld or a devil from paradise.ā
Most of what we get about Julia is from Spikeās point of view. From this, we learn she is at the center of Vicious and Spikeās conflict, but aside from that she is basically depicted asĀ āThe Virtuous Womanā of a noir. The colors around her are warm and she is shown caring for Spike. There is an innocence and modestly about her as well.
Yet, when we finally do meet Julia, we get a different image. We know she is tied up with dangerous men, but is she herself a dangerous woman?
She is certainly capable of betrayal.Ā
Suddenly she is a bad-ass-gun-toting woman in leather and black, surrounded by hues of grey and dark blue. Intentional or not, Julia is a major part of what lures Spike back into the past and ultimately to his death. In this case, Julia is the femme fatale of Spikeās story and thus, their relationship is doomed from the start.
Faye, on the other hand, is portrayed in somewhat of a contrast. When we first meet her, she is the clear cut femme fatale, appearing cunning, strong willed and seductive.Ā However, we soon find that she has quite a bit of kindness and naivety hidden behind her facade. She uses the former tactics as a way of emotional (and probably physical) protection. Gren points this out in his conversation with her.Ā
Gren,Ā
āYouāre just afraid theyād abandon you so you abandoned them. You distanced yourself from the whole thing.ā
As the show progresses, we start to see less of her āfemme fatale natureā and something more genuine. Think about it, between Hard Luck Woman andĀ RFB Part 2 we donāt see much of Faye as her typical conniving or unreliable self, aside from changing the course of the Bebop maybe. Sure she takes off, but it isnāt at all for the same reasons she did in Jupiter Jazz or Speak Like a Child, for example.Ā
I would argue we actually see her more trustworthy and caring than ever. Since I donāt want to spend too much time talking about Fayeās character development (not here at least) Iāll give one example of this.Ā
When she returns to the Bebop after her encounter with Julia in RFB Part 1, she gives Spike the message, even though the outcome might hurt her (i.e. he leaves and/or dies). While she does first sayĀ āItās gonna cost you,ā she doesnāt really mean it because she tells him without hesitation only moments later.
This isnāt to say Faye good, Julia bad. Both women have their layers and even though we know way more about Faye, I donāt get the impression that Julia is selfish and cunning like Kathie was. But I do get the feeling she was enclosed in a world of crime and betrayal the way Kathie was. We really only know the basics of Spike and Juliaās situation. Who knows the details like motive or how long it lasted etc. etc. We can only speculate...
There is a scene towards the end ofĀ Out Of The Past,Ā where Kathie tells Jeff to go away with her. This time it is her asking him, just like Julia asks Spike. During this she mentions,
āI never told you I was anything but what I am, you just wanted to imagine I was. Thatās why I left you.ā
This got me thinking...did Spike imagine Julia as something she wasnāt? Or something he wanted her to be that she just couldnāt be?Ā
It could explain why we get such contrasted images of her.
There are themes of thisĀ ādreamlikeāĀ relationship between Jeff and Kathie, similar to Spike and JuliaāsĀ āIt was all a dream.ā
The two of them were going to ālive and be free,ā probably something neither of them knew how to do and most likely wouldnāt have been able to get away with.
When Jet asks Spike if he can just forget the past, this is his answer.
Spike,
āThere was a woman. For the first time in my life I saw a woman that was truly alive.Ā At least thatās what I thought.Ā She was the part of me I had lost, that part that was missing, that I had been longing for.ā
I always wondered about this, because Spike is clearly talking about Julia, but right after is when Faye shows up. To me, that spoke volumes...
Faye is a woman who is terribly human and terribly alive.
Going back to Faye and Ann, I find their similarities shine not so much in theĀ āVirtuous Woman,ā concept, but rather in Annās dedication to Jeff and her optimism for the future. She is also the last person to talk to Jeff before he leaves for the final time, as if he were being presented with one last alternative.Ā Spike spends his last moments with Faye as well, in which she basically begs him not to go and keep him in the present that she has now discovered for herself. She may be stuck, but she is definitely someone that yearns for human connection, love, and life.
The problem is, Spike and Faye are both set in opposite directions. Herās leads to a future and Spike knows this because he points it out early on (My Funny Valentine). He also knows, his most likely does not. He has already dug himself too deep into this hole,Ā if you will, that there is really no turning back.Ā
But letās say none of that was an issue? What could be?
I sat and watched this movie (Out of the Past) with my mom. She didnāt know anything about it and didnāt know why I was watching it. I wanted her genuine reaction. The whole time she was getting mad at Jeff until the very end.Ā I asked her why and she said that she wanted him to be able to live happily with Ann. I explained to her why he had to do what he did. She understood this, but still couldnāt help but be sad at how things turned out for him, when they could have been good.
Even though Kathie and Jeff are theĀ ālovers,ā of this movie, you donāt really want them to end up together. Forget that Kathie has a devious nature, regardless, you know where it has to end and you donāt want to see your hero die.
Like Kathie, Julia symbolizes Spikeās inevitable doom and Like Ann, Faye symbolizes his possible future.Ā
āIāll be with you till the endā
Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā āYouāre the one still tied to the past Spike!ā
Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā āWhy do you have to go? Where are you going? What are you gonna do, just throw your life away like it was nothing?!ā
Itās two sides of a sad coin...
We want Spike to have a future and because we love the characters of the show, it would be really great if he could have it with them, but that is where the tragedy is. It's only an idea we can think about, a possibility presented to us as it was to Jeff and Spike before their deaths.
The bottom line is, when it comes to Spike and Faye you are really only given a taste. You are not given what you expect to see, which is why I say this ship is driven by what could be.Ā As it is with most of the character relationships in the show, no major breakthroughs are made until the very end, when it's too late. Then it just feels like such wasted potential, but sometimes in life, that's how it is. And thus, we have been given a very classic noir here ladies and gentlemen!
So no, I donāt think people miss the mark when they ship Spike and Faye, nor do I find they invalidate the show by any means. I kind of like that Watanabe switched it up and didnāt do the expected, but left us those subtle hints. He didnāt outright give Spike another lover, but he gave us someone that represents what he could have. Kind of does that with the crew as a whole too!
UGH. I love-hate this show and I love this pairing! Thank you for reading my thoughts and I know this may not be the case or reasoning for everyone, but just based on what I have seen around the community and where this show draws inspiration, this is what I have concluded. I didnāt get into Spike and Fayeās feelings for each other because it gets a little more theoretical there, but I would like to do a post on my thoughts on that as well sometime. I also didnāt touch too much on Spikeās reasoning for choosing to face Vicious in the end, just because I know that will only lead into a whole other analysis lol. But you know I have my thoughts on that and certainly plan to share themĀ š Also, I know I basically spoiled it, but Out of the Past is such a great movie!! I think if youāre a fan of this show it's definitely worth a watch! There are so many more parallels to Cowboy Bebop that I didnāt even mention.Ā Anyways, thanks again and talk to you soon!
#Cowboy Bebop#Spike and Faye#spike x faye#analysis#cowboy bebop analysis#pairing analysis#pairing#my ship#out of the past#film noir#did i mention#I LOVE THIS SHOW#YES i've been working on this for two weeks like i was writing a midterm essay for school#DON'T JUDGE ME š¤š#OOTP is really good watch it#last scene gives me chillsšØ#spaye#faye x spike#faye and spike
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i 100% believe miles comes out on tumblr like after rise of the ashes or something and everyone rejoices (this headcanon is sheer fucking gold btw)
Oh dear youāve activated my trap card for this hc get ready for this because i definitely agree that Miles coming out is CELEBRATED on tumblr however itās a LONG journey before he gets there. Before I get into it though there is a cw for briefly talking about suicide so please be mindful of that! Itās mostly in the context of the note post RFTA and people speculating what happened to Miles in his disappearance from tumblr, but I do talk about it so.
Ok here we go
So Miles is well known as That Guy on Steel Samurai tumblr who is absolutely insufferable to interact with but he writes good meta and writes even BETTER fics, but itās the kind where something is obviously going on in this guys life and is he ok? Because it seems like heās working through some shit and that combined with his ask answering sprees of outright denying heās gay and just talking Like That on the internet people get a kick out of him and heās JUST tolerable enough that people donāt really DO anything about it. He probably gets a call out post maybe like one time but itās just by some rando whoās pretty new to the fandom and doesnāt get the sort of unspoken agreement steel samurai collective fandom has made to just put up with him despite him being absolutely dreadful.
But then all of a sudden Miles just... disappears one day out of nowhere. At first itās just a day, then a day turns into a week, and a week turns into a month and people are like what the fuck? What happened to the iq of 127 guy? And people start writing WILD theories about what happened to him to chase him off the website because itās like, 2016. But people start to get WORRIED when his longest running fic Updates itās FINAL(!?) chapter and he just... kills off the Evil Magistrate. Thatās when people are like oh my god did he? Did he fucking kick the bucket? Oh my god what the hell and he is just absolute radio silence on tumblr because surprise! He leaves the note in his office and then he also decides to leave tumblr at the same time because he really genuinely thinks that this is it for him.
HOWEVER. Miles also has a best friend in the Steel Samurai fandom. Someone who he met on tumblr years ago and who he enjoyed debating and conversing with who he thinks has very well thought out opinions on the show even if he doesnāt agree with all of them (he does agree with most of their points, which is why he was so open to their friendship in the first place). And theyāre the ONLY person who he keeps in contact with while heās in Europe finding himself after his breakdown.
That person is Maya Fey.
He and Maya became friends years ago and neither of them know who each other are or how old they are or really anything about each other except their screen names and more personal details that they choose to share over kik, which Miles only got because he was curious to know more about her and it was the only platform she offered. She was very hesitant about choosing to become his friend, but Mayaās fixer complex told her wow this is a broken man, maybe IM the one whoās gonna make him a better person and make him less awful. And for the first few years this had minimal success. She got him to say a few more slang terms, but really he didnāt change all that much. But she was consistently kind to him! And once you got to know him he really isnāt that bad, especially in those rare moments of emotional vulnerability he allowed himself (he was too afraid of being āfound outā even though he had moved out years ago) and he could actually be a pretty fun guy.
It isnāt until Milesās year in Europe when things really start to change. He had a very vocal crisis to her over kik that kinda freaked both of them out, and as I mentioned he stopped using tumblr entirely and Maya gets WORRIED about him and he just. Starts telling her stuff because heās emotional. Itās the most heās EVER told her and itās still nothing TOO revealing because he knows how public his image is and he doesnāt want ANYONE, not even who he considers to be his closest friend, to find out who he is online because he doesnāt want to be seen as unprofessional or just general shame about his hobbies. And over the course of that year they just... slowly she keeps beating it into his head that heās a good person! Or at the very least a FINE one who is trying to be good and thatās all that matters. And like he starts to just... internalize it. And starts listening to her advice about maybe going to therapy. And then HE starts listening to HER problems more and it becomes... a more mutual friendship. And itās nice because heās never had anyone like that! But he keeps talking about this guy who saved him and stuff and thatās when Maya is like woah pump the breaks dude we need to talk about how youāre definitely gay and he gets SUPER defensive about it but like over time he just. He starts to come to terms with it, and she helps him a lot but he does a lot of that work himself too.
And so when he comes back in 2-4 heās starting to feel... better of course but also different? And more confident in himself. He still has a long way to go but heās learning! And thatās what matters to him! But with learning and trying to be better he realizes something. He has to log back onto tumblr and actually like, apologize for being horrible. And he does just that. But when he logs back on heās SHOCKED that he has HUNDREDS of asks a lot of them are the usual but a lot of them are also ones of like, GENUINE concern asking if he was ok and if he was still alive and heās taken aback that people even SENT HIM kind asks when he was so awful to them.
Miles makes a really long apology/announcement post where heās INCREDIBLY sincere and in it he OPENLY acknowledges that he was dealing with a lot of unresolved trauma and says something about how he came to terms with being gay in his absence and he thinks that thatāll be the end of it but within literal MINUTES of him posting that heās getting asks telling him how HAPPY THEY ARE that heās not only ok and doing better but that he came out and people WELCOMING him to the community and then thereās like posts that are like āAnd people then make posts like wow am I the only one who got emotional about the guy with a iq of 127s thank you post? anyone else? Just me? Ok (12.6k notes)ā and āIf the 127 iq guy can get better and learn to work towards being positive then you can too (54.9k notes)ā within a matter of DAYS and seeing those and just
Itās weirdly SO validating for him that he was being cheered on by literally THOUSANDS of people who are celebrating his growth as a person! That are celebrating his COMING OUT when he was SO scared of that part of himself for SO long. And the fact that people were ROOTING FOR HIM even when he was the actual worst just. It makes him feel so good about himself and it makes him feel loved! So much so that he writes ANOTHER post thanking everyone for being so kind to him and telling them that things DO get better and there ARE people that appreciate them and it just... gets passed around because itās a really inspiring and reassuring message and people just GENUINELY start to appreciate him. And itās just a celebration of HIS character growth by THOUSANDS of people he doesnāt even know because man was he famous outside of his perceived sphere of influence due to the amount of meme material he ended up writing.
He still used tumblr and stuff after all this but heās really calmed down a lot, he even rewrites the ending of his long running fic that caused people to panic about him. And he still answers asks and writes meta and fics and stuff, and heās still MILES of course so he can be a bit of an ass when you disagree with him but heās. Nicer. And happier. And thatās what matters.
#GOD this was so long rip to the asker but you really did unlock the secret sappy part of the hc#like maybe its a bit dramatic! but so is he and he gets REALLY into the making up for past wrongs thing so I THINK THIS IS TOTALLY POSSIBLE!#and maybe its a bit much that hes like THAT popular but also he would be. he accidentaly made so many memes. and he just VANISHED.#people think he DIED. he literally comes back from the fucking dead on tumblr and people are like WHAT THE FUCK HES NICE *AND* GAY NOW? WOW#dont even get me STARTED on what happens when he gets engaged.#also miles and maya best friend agenda... yeah#no i dont know how to put a read more on mobile im so sorry#ace attorney#miles edgeworth#tumblr miles#proxy roxy asks
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Not genshin related but instead yttd related. Just some speculations and wild guessing- beware of 3b spoilers
Alright so in Sou route rn there's only 4 survivors while Kanna route has five (smh Kanna route gets all the love huh).
So that means that in Sou route, not only will everyone get one of each role but also the death game will definitely end because there would be only two survivors left after the main game.
My bets on who's getting what role for Sou route is-
Sou with Keymaster (yttd seems like looping back to the begging with things, so having Sou lie about having keymaster first game and then actually have keymaster last game feels fitting).
Since only the people alive in this route are the ones who killed Kanna, I feel like he'd definitely try to get himself voted off to kill everyone or maybe he has an actual redemption arc this chapter and the roles of Sara and Sou are switched from first main game to last (like Sara lying about her role for whatever reason while Sou is guiding the discussion idk why she would but I feel like it would just be cool lmao)
Sara with either seer or she actually has sacrifice this time (like how she found the sacrifice card under the table but didn't get it cause she already had keymaster). Seer is the only card that Sara has never picked up or had so it's a very likely candidate, maybe she would see that Sou is the keymaster and assume that he would try to kill everyone because of how they killed Kanna. Sacrifice wouldn't trigger Sara as much as it did in chapter 2 because she repressed her memories of Joe, and also Sacrifice holds the most power in this game as well.
If Sara does get seer then two other candidates for sacrifice would be Gin or Keiji, maybe if you chose Alice dies Sou route it goes to Keiji or if you chose Reko dies Sou route it goes to Gin.
I could totally see a situation where you get the choice to save either Gin or Keiji.
I think it would pretty ironic if the final survivors of the death game would the girl with highest survival percentage and the man with the lowest.
Also if Sara was sacrifice and did managed to get voted off, you'd get the choice to either save Gin, Sou, or Keiji.
For Kanna route I feel like Kanna would the be one with the seer (since she lied about it in the beginning as well and it just feels fitting) or maybe keymaster
And reko/alice with commoner probably
Sara would have either seer (if Kanna didn't get it) or keymaster (I don't see Sara getting sacrifice this route)
Gin either has commoner or sacrifice
And Keiji either has commoner or sacrifice
I'm less sure about the roles this route cause it wouldn't be the last main game for them, because there would be three left unless sacrifice wins. The death game is meant to go on until only two or one person is left.
Also everytime during sacrifice's death, there's always the button. In Joe's death, sara kept pressing it. While in Nao's death, Sara couldn't press it at all. Idk why this stood out to me but it did
Also new rules keep getting added with the main games it seems, with chapter 2 updated the rules with trades and ties. Maybe some new rules could be adding new cards, a new way to trade cards, ect.
Also there's still some mysteries that are unsolved
Where's Mishima's head
Mishima is suspicious in general- he's the only candidate that passed the first trial who's wish we don't know (besides Keiji and I feel like this is gonna be important), and he shows up every chapter. I feel like he isn't actually the mastermind (I don't feel like there's "one" mastermind like danganronpa) but he is suspicious.
Who was in Sue miley's room? I personally place my bets on Meister since he looks all bandaged up but it could very well be a dummy who didn't actually die, Kai perhaps (since slitting your wrists is actually one of the most survivable methods of suicide I think), or a character we don't know yet (pfft watch it be Ryoko lol)
Who was Sue miley talking to in chapter 2? I don't think it's midori or Meister since the person seemed (the way the person talked didn't seem like how they would act), or anyone we actually met before since Sara and Keiji didn't recognize the voice. It could be that Rei (I think that's the name) person in Ytts that is revealed to actually have been apart of the group before being forgotten (in Ytts when someone dies they are "forgotten" so I think that's the implication with Rei).
So maybe Rei was a possible Candidate but ending up dying before the death game could ever start like how Midori did and their right to the death game was forfeited.
Next up is why was the Joe painted taken during Sou Route. When Ranmaru goes to rest and Sara leaves him before a while before coming back, the Joe painting is stolen. I think the implication is that Ranmaru took it cause in Kanna route that dosent happen. I just find it kinda silly that Ranmaru is jealous of an painting of Sara's dead best friend that she can't even remember. I just find it silly, and I don't know if it'll be addressed in 3-2.
Also who's Sara's real dad? Most of the cast in yttd is missing an father or parents (Possibly because they're parents mightve been in on the deathgame too, since Asunaru has information on them since they were children). A tiny theory of mine is that the person who Keiji killed was not Joe's dad but instead actually Sara's. It dosent really have that much proof other than I think it would be cool and both Sara and Mr. Policeman have red hair.
What got Sara into the deathgame? Sara never signed the contract so what brought her in? The only two candidates for wishing Sara in are Mishima and Keiji since we don't know their wishes. I could totally see an situation where Keiji wished that he got the chance to reconcile with Mr. Policeman's child (since he killed their dad). I'm leaning towards Keiji being the reason why Sara is here but not Mishima since Mishima and Sara don't really have an connection.
Though I guess it would be funny if Mishima wished to have more students to teach and since the death game is probably revolving around Sara, Asunaro just took that has a chance to shove her in.
What were Joe and Kai talking about? In the survalince it shows Kai and Joe both talking, seeming serious but there was no audio so we couldn't tell. My bet is that Joe was confronting Kai about being Sara's stalker or having some connections with Asunaro, Joe isn't as dumb as the fandom makes him out to be imo so it seems reasonable that he would notice that.
Alright I spilled out my brain now, time to wait 50 years for the new chapter byeeee
#yttd 3b#yttd sara#sara chidouin#yttd joe#yttd sou#yttd kanna#yttd keiji#yttd alice#yttd reko#yttd kai#yttd theory#kimi ga shine#yttd gin#yttd spoilers#tw suicude#tw death
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All the HCs and side materials aside, who do you think was closer to Levi, Erwin or Hange? While there was this acker host thing with Erwin but it was debunked. Meanwhile he hasn't even acknowledged Hange's sacrifice even once so theres that too.
Oh god, so yes I have wanted to answer this ask for a while, thought of pushing it until night time today but I got locked out of the office though thirty minutes before my shift so let me just cope with the stress by giving my feedback on this because I feel like I have already explained my side to a lot of people but Iād rather have it immortalized in my blog at this point.Ā
Okay first question
Who do you think was closer to Levi, Erwin or Hange?
I find this question thought provoking but I donāt like these types of questions because they tend to start fights? And they tend to cause unnecessary drama both in real life and online. And relationships are so hard to quantify like of course there's a clear line between acquaintance and best friend but the nuances between siblings, lover, best friend and parent are a little more complex because we all have a lot of people we care about deeply but can we easily say who we love more?
(this is still a great question though anon, thank you for asking it.)
Itās literally like the epitome of asking ur parents āwhoās your favorite childā or āwho do you love more your best friend for so many years or your girl friend of like two years who you met, clicked then realized they were the love of your life.ā Who will you save when in a burning building? your wife? Or your parents? Or your siblings? Your best friend?
Such problematic questions which I think a lot of us in our lives would rather never have to answer, especially in front of our loved ones.Ā
I am not making assumptions about what type of relationship Levi had with Erwin or what type of relationship Levi had with Hange in this post because I donāt wanna start shipping wars in this very peaceful website. (But, I ship Levihan and will probably die with this ship close to my heart so you can make assumptions about my opinions on Levi and Hangeās relationship based on that.)Ā
But the point is, Erurihan has always been special. Levi held a lot of people close to his heart over the years but I found that trio to have notably been the closest and Erwin and Hange have changed Leviās lives the most.Ā
Would Levi have played favorites between them?? NO. Because Erwin and Hange were such different people that putting them side by side and thinking āwho did Levi love moreāĀ is like comparing apples to oranges, putting them side by side and thinking which fruit tastes better.
Because Hange and Erwin offered different things to Levi. Literally, Erwin became that next purpose for Levi after he lost his two best friends. He saw wonder in Erwinās eyes, he saw a leader, he saw someone who can guide him to a bigger purpose and he trusted Erwin so deeply and Erwin trusted him back and even as a Levihan fan, I might actually admit that early on in the series, Levi was probably much closer to Erwin than Hange. Fine I admit it he probably was.Ā
But Hange offered something else to Levi. While Erwin offered a path, Hange offered wonder, curiosity. She offered Levi things to think about beyond the survey corps job. I mean Erwin was practically married to his job right. Hange was practically married to her job too but I found Hange more... approachable? Warmer overall? I mean if you actually see Erenās interactions with the three of them or you watch from Season 1, you would realize that Hange was really the most approachable survey corps veteran from the start (other than petra).
And I think Levi really appreciated that part of her and saw it as something worth entertaining. He completely believed in Erwin, Erwin gave him a purpose in life but Hange was the one who added color to it, she actually added something beyond that purpose. She made him feel things he probably wouldnāt have felt elsewhere.Ā
Annoyance? Anger? Defeat at how someone could be so enthusiastic and dense? Curiosity? Someone who might have made him think that maybe, soldiering and survey corps-ing and almost being eaten by titans everyday wasnāt so bad. And maybe there is joy in the domestic in betweens?Ā Ā
Another thing, hereās what Hange had that Erwin didnāt have, she had the luxury of time, she also had the luxury of circumstances on her side, of having been the only one left out of the veterans for Levi to cling on to. This made it more natural for a deeper friendship and relationship to develop between the two. So if Hange is closer to Levi than Erwin is, then itās because of the circumstances that it made it so, post season 3.
If Erwin lived, the dynamics of erurihan would have definitely developed differently. But I never considered the possibiliy of Erwin living instead of Hange since Levi picking Armin just felt really in character and right for me. So yeah, itāll probably stay a shallow speculation until the end haha.Ā Ā
And about this second question...
āMeanwhile he hasn't even acknowledged Hange's sacrifice even once so theres that too.āĀ
Yo. Just a reminder, Hange died like roughly an hour or two ago manga time. Levi is literally internally bleeding, the shit show just never stopped for a second and for some reason people are expecting Levi to give a nod at Hangeās death.Ā
Okay yes, she did mean a lot to him. But lemme give you the explanation which has been sticking to me for a really long time.Ā Ā
Levi is clowning. Like literally, I donāt think he has even acknowledged that Hange is dead yet. We have concrete hints that he is. After ādedicate your heartā he just walked away and didnāt look back.Ā Itās in the fact that he didnāt even look out the window to watch her die and in the fact that his last words were āsee you laterā like Iām pretty sure heās thinking to himself āYeah, like I know she is probably gonna die objectively butā¦ Just, what ifā¦ she lives??Ā
Just like all of us Hange stans in the website yo with our beast titan theory, Levi is just the biggest clown of us all (since he is the biggest Hange stan anyway...).Ā He decided (unconsciously or consciously) to āpretendā that Hangeās still alive maybe until the end of the war just so that he could possibly function at least (?).Ā
I mean Iām pretty sure weāve all done this in our lives. Especially when weāve lost someone weāve loved dearly or maybe when weāre saying good bye to someone in the airport where weāre just laughing our heads off with that person all the way until the departure gate when they say good bye and we only break down when weāre home alone. Like Iām pretty sure itās similar for people who have lost someone, kept themselves busy with funeral preparations and memorial services and only start experiencing the loss when they go back to normal life and realize they have to clean out someoneās bedroom or fix their daily routine to adjust to the loss of that loved one.
Maybe Levi will finally acknowledge it when everything goes back to normal and he finds Hangeās office empty and he realizes he doesnāt have his buddy to have tea with every night. And if Yams decides not to write or insert that, Iāll probably just speculate it myself and keep this theory alive.Ā
I actually wrote a drabble about this a long time ago. You can read it here.
Anyway, thanks for reading!Ā
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do you think kuraneon is gonna be canon in the official hxh universe and what must have happened?
Whether or not they would be canon is up to Sir Togashi himself. While he does have romantic elements in his previous works like Yu Yu Hakusho and Ten de Showaru Cupid, it's not as explicit in HxH (e.g. Meruem/Komugi).
If you asked me this before knowing about the KuraNeon Marriage Theory (will give a link in the reblog later on) and KuraNeon paired up in mobile games, I would have said "0% chance" because we do not see them interact on-screen (even if I had shipped them since I first laid my eyes on Neon).
However, it is kinda sus that Kurapika became a Nostrade Family Young Boss; with Light and Neon nowhere shown. The more "accepted" theory is that Light is unable to continue and Neon is dead (although I do have rebuttals about Neon being dead - that's another conversation). I do wonder why he had to keep their mafia family name - there is no reason to if he truly let them wither. But from Light's last appearance in a manga panel, Kurapika did reassure him that he'll handle everything and you see the Nostrade mafia family organisation doing well under Kurapika. Which is also why my friend went to bring up that plausible KuraNeon Marriage Theory.Ā
I know that a lot of people think they donāt interact, but that is on-screen. After York New City arc, we donāt see Kurapika until way later, however him being in charge as the Nostrade Boss indicates that he stayed with the Nostrades. God knows what they did while living under one roof.Ā
Another thing that is major sus is the mobile games. Even non-shippers are baffled why KuraNeon is a thing. Kurapika and Neon are seen dressed as Hikoboshi and Orihime in two sets of the mobage cards; a romantic couple that is known in a Japanese legend and celebrated on 7 July (Tanabata Festival). They are even shown writing on coloured papers in one of the cards + Kurapika holding a bamboo - these coloured papers are used during the Tanabata festival where wishes are written on them and hung on bamboo. It is believed that the reunion between the two lovers Hikoboshi and Orihime are so joyous that they grant the wishes of the people. As far as I know, the only pairing that gets to have a Orihime/Hikoboshi theme in their cards is Machi/Hisoka; and we do see Hisoka/Machi having a soft spot for one another in canon (in the current arc, Machi does patch him up after his defeat and Hisoka spared her).Ā Ā
Hmmm.. I should make a post about this whole Tanabata thing actually. Asides from that, they are also the v-day banner in 2019 for the games and she gave him a cake during the valentineās day event, to which showed a scene of him thinking about what to give her back (and low and behold, Kurapikaās Whiteās Day card featured him with a gift and him wearing the same outfit of the scene where he thought about what to give her).Ā
In a separate mobile game, they have a special attack together. Their mobage cards have identical backgrounds and themes. Therefore, it isnāt just one mobile game that does this.Ā It makes me wonder why the official team devs do that when this pairing shipping sub-fandom is really small and many even dislike it.Ā
Even as a shipper, it also baffles me why devs do that when they have little screentime together (gotta be more objective here). If you do consider the KuraNeon Marriage Theory or consider that they might end up together in the manga, it makes sense why the official hxh game devs pair them together. And I am unsure about the source - but I think for Japanese manga production of non-manga material, you need approval from the writer? All the more to be suspicious of the mobile games that contains KuraNeon above every single pairing out there.Ā
Hence, if you ask me, there is a chance of Kurapika/Neon being canon. How that might happen is a little tricky and depending on the type of portrayal they will be (I have four interpretations of this ship on my pinned post lol).Ā
Iām not sure if you only define canon as the vanilla/romantic type, or it also includes one that is a little twisted. I've noticed that hxh has friendship and family dynamics that are already complicated and not as wholesome as one would think. I do believe that if KuraNeon were to be canon, it would be the latter interpretation.Ā
There are actually a few things that are needed to be considered for it to happen: 1) Neonās fate - she needs to be alive (or maybe not)Ā Now, a lot of people believe she died because Chrolloās book speculates that she does. However, we donāt see her dead body. Itās literally just Chrolloās interpretation. This is contrasted by Kurapika that states that the previous Scarlet Eye owners did not need to be killed (and theĀ ādaughter of a mafia leaderā is one of them). If the daughter of a mafia leader is truly Neon, then it brings a question of who should you believe more: Chrollo or Kurapika? (Imo itās super interesting how these two guys who are enemies have different narratives on the same girl).Ā
Of course, there was this potential discrepancy I found while re-watching this arc. The Scarlet Eyes that Kurapika bidded for 2.9 billion was a fake. They thought it was stolen when Squala took it with him and died - but it was actually that Kortopiās Gallery Fake copy disappears after 24hour. So technically, the Eyes is with the Troupe. Now, assuming that Togashi has not forgotten this detail (I believe he still remembers), I do think that it is possible that since Chrollo is the type to get bored of the stuff he steals, he will just sell it and it will be obtained by the later owners. As forĀ āthe daughter of a mafia leaderā, Iām sure itās Neon that Kurapika is referring to - be it him mentioning her as merely a previous owner despite the set of Scarlet Eyes beingĀ āstolenā or she bought another set. (There is a chance that is not Neon, but another daughter of a random mafia leader, but what are the chances of another daughter being like that?)Ā
I guess I just wanted to point this detail out because many people readily believed Chrolloās book (it was not even himself). He stated that he did not know when it disappeared.Ā
As for thatĀ āHisoka killed Neonā theory, while it is believable and interesting, the only thing that is doubtful for that is that a) Hisoka could not have gone off to kill Neon in such a short period of time, b) that would be an insult to Kurapikaās capabilities if she was under his care, c) the fortune-telling ability doesnāt bother Hisoka. Pakunoda and Hisoka had a short conversation about the fortune and both of them acknowledged that the future changed. Hisoka wrote over his fortune despite having a good one to manipulate the events in hopes of fighting Chrollo - that is an indication of his belief that he writes his own future, and therefore which is why I argue that the fortune-telling ability never bothered him.
As for theĀ āKurapika killed Neonā theory, I think... they all need to get one thing straight about Kurapika: as much as possible, except for the spiders, he doesnāt kill (or at least dislikes to kill). He stated that none of the owners had to die even if two preferred to die. If thereās a way, he will not shed blood. Besides, Kurapika doesnāt actually hate Neon - contrary to popular belief. There wasnāt a single manga panel that indicates his hatred for her; or even annoyance. It was only the time where Mellody mentioned that he will kill her if she stands in the way, but Kurapika, as much as mentioned before, doesnāt kill if there is an alternative way.Ā
I have yet to fully explore possible reasons why Neonās ability disappears from Chrolloās book if sheās still alive (my friend thinks itās related to Kurapikaās dolphin ability). However, there are many rebuttals to the theories on how she died.Ā
But yeah, I think for it to be canon, Neon has to be alive. Unless... they were already canon and he sailed to the Dark Continent and she died slightly before that event (tbh I rather not have this).
2) Kurapikaās fate - he needs to live
Number 2 is a condition is if they arenāt canon yet before he sails to the Dark Continent.Ā
One thing that confuses people is that they think that just because Kurapika is under the Kakin Employment, it means that he is no longer affiliated with the Nostrades. The Kakin Employment contract is temporary - he is still affiliated with the Nostrades (and their business is bodyguarding, take note). As for him being in the Zodiac, he is still the Nostrade Family Young Boss - being part of the Zodiacs is like some political committee.Ā
I know there are rumours (I say rumours cause I donāt see the interview script by my own eyes) that Togashi once indicated that the Phantom Troupe and Kurapika will all die. I do think that Togashi can kill one of his main characters, but thereās one thing that makes me question whether he changed his mind: Nitro Rice from the Dark Continent.Ā
The Nitro Rice is a thing in the Dark Continent that prolongs oneās life - a direct solution to Kurapikaās Emperor Time problem. I think if he does last until they reach the Dark Continent, he has a chance to prolong his lifespan that he has lost while using Emperor Time.Ā
Now, if he indeed gets to survive, manages to complete his mission, thereās another problem he will face: a will to live. Because currently, all he has ever lived for is bringing justice to his clan. Beyond that, what can he live for? Which kind of makes the ending for him to happily live with someone (be it his friends or having a family) a suitable one.Ā
3) Neonās development
Neon is seriously misunderstood among the fandom - even her personality. Iāve seen a lot of Kurapika x (other character) ships where Neon is the 3rd party in fanfics; and it is a one-sided love.Ā
However, Neon is actually an emotionally detached person while Kurapika is the one that gets attached to people, even if he initially avoids them. Neon has what psychologists will callĀ āAvoidant-Dismissive Attachment Styleā while Kurapika hasĀ āAvoidant-Fearful Attachment Styleā. This is rightfully so due to their different backgrounds. I actually believe that between the two of them, Kurapika will be the one who falls first or if this is one-sided, Kurapika is the one that likes her because of their attachment styles.Ā
Neon has zero friends, is materialistic and lacks sympathy for dead people (the complete opposite of Kurapika). She believes in focusing on the present and the living (itās actually a pretty good principle to live for). She needs to learn how to be more attached to people and learn compassion - which she actually is seen as being capable of. She was surprised that Eliza broke down and cried, and even forgo bidding physically. I think this is an indication of her starting to feel sympathy for people and perhaps being more mature - cemented by the fact that she lost her powers.
Therefore, I do think she needs to learn how to warm her heart up to people (which she might have already started to after the York New incident) if she were to feel something for Kurapika.Ā
4) Kurapikaās view of her
Okay, this is one factor that is either you take it the vanilla way or the kinky way lmao. I actually wrote a Cognitive Dissonance Theory for Kurapika on my Tumblr post for this one (will try to link it in the reblog).Ā
Kurapikaās initial belief is that flesh collectors are scums who should be arrested, yet he is surprised to see that his flesh-collecting employer is a girl of his age. I think there is already dissonance in his mind there once he met her.Ā
Contrary to popular belief, Kurapika doesnāt hate Neon (thereās no single manga panel that ever once showed he detest her or feel annoyed with her; as compared to other employees of hers). In fact, he does quickly understand that Neon is being exploited by her father - to which he corrects Basho about the situation. In the manga, when he woke up after the fever, he says her name (in the 2011 anime, it was āBossā but in the manga, itās āNeonā) and immediately asks about her; which indicates that he is concerned for her. Of course, she is his employer but in that situation where he is bedridden and not working, him asking about her wonāt be just due to him working as a bodyguard.Ā
However, this doesnāt show that he has feelings for her. It only proves that a) he doesnāt hate her, b) he does care about her. He needs to see Neon as more than just a flesh collector for him to like her; on top of spending time with one another. He needs to see (if he hasnāt already) that she is a girl his age that has a different predicament than him.Ā
This is the vanilla way I guess.Ā
The darker and more saucy interesting interpretation would be him thinking itās okay to objectify her just as much as she objectifies his clanās eyes (thatās another post I gotta do for another day - but hey, this interpretation is paralleled to Tserreidnich/Theta).Ā
5) Spending Time with one another
I think as mentioned, it is already a given that Kurapika and Neon had spent time together under one roof off-screen while we see Gon and Killua on-screen during the 3 arcs. However, I think Neon cannot suddenly become less detached and Kurapika cannot want something more than his mission at the moment; so I do think that even if they had spent time before Dark Continent Exploration arc, Neon and Kurapika needs to spend time together after he comes back (thatās if they havenāt banged before he sailed to the Dark Continent like they did in my fic lmao).Ā
So yeah, I think these are generally the five things that I think should happen if they were to be canon.Ā
I donāt know why I was compelled to do a long-ass post of this, but I hope this answers your question. I can go on and write a report about this but Imma stop here for now.Ā
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If You Are Going Through Hell, Keep Going
These are the words that Marin Morrell ā Druid, Emissary, Guidance Counselor ā says to Stiles Stilinski in āBattlefieldā (02x11) And I think they suit his character just perfectly, because Stiles has been going through Hell all his life.
The Teen Wolf Fandom donāt talk nearly enough about Stilesā traumas, so Iāll try my best to do it myself *I wonāt even remotely touch on the Void Stiles, Dark Stiles, Donovan and the Nogitsune trauma though, because itās extremely complex and deserves its own Meta*
Itās Canon that Noah was an alcoholic (as Rafael pointed out to Stiles in 03x11 Alpha Pact), that he neglected and lashed out at his own child (Stilesā memory in 02x09 Party Guessed), and that Stiles was verbally, emotionally, and physically abused by his mentally ill mother, Claudia, throughout his childhood (thereās a whole magnificently acted, heart wrenching scene about it with flashbacks and all in 05x06 Required Reading.) Itās Canon that Stiles had to take care of himself and of his father before AND after Claudiaās death. And itās Canon that Stiles ā who was only an eight years old child at the time ā was at the hospital with his mother when she died, nobody else:
[Teen Wolf Season 3 Episode 11, Alpha Pact]
CHRIS: You knewā¦ I remember meeting you once, before you were Sheriff. You questioned me about a body. You knew something was up. You just werenāt ready to believe it.
NOAH: Youāre right. There was a night eight years agoā¦ the night my wife died. I was at the end of a shift, and a call came in. There had been a pile-up, and a young womanā¦ she was a teenager, actually. She was trapped under an overturned car. We had to wait for the paramedics. We were never getting her out, but I was able to hold her hand. She knew she was gonna die. But I just kept telling her āNo, no, listen. The paramedics are on their way.ā And then I remember her hand suddenly gripped mine so tightly that I literally thought she was gonna break the bones. And she looked me in the eyes, and she said āIf you wanna be with her, go now.ā And I knew she was talking about my wifeā¦ But then that other part of my brain ā the part that looks for clues, for fingerprints, for logical connectionsā¦ that part told me that there is no way that this girl could possibly know about Claudia. And so I stayed. I stayed until the paramedics pulled her out. Until her heart stopped beating and they declared her dead.
NOAH: When I finally got to the hospital, I saw Stiles sitting in the waiting room with his head in his handsā¦ He was with Claudia when she died.
NOAH: But I wasnāt. I wasnāt with her because I didnāt believeā¦ I just did not believe.
Itās also Canon that Derek Hale is a rape victim and that the hunters slaughtered Derek, Cora and Peterās entire pack/family (including humans and children.) And itās Canon that Stiles immediately sides with the Hales and openly confronts Chris about what Kate had done to the Hales in 01x12, Code Breaker:
CHRIS: Let me ask you a question, Stiles. Have you ever seen a rabid dog?
STILES: No. I could put it on my to-do list, if you just let me go.
CHRIS: Well, I have. And the only thing Iāve ever been able to compare it to is seeing a friend of mine turn on a full moon. Do you wanna know what happened?
STILES: Not really. No offense to your storytelling skills.
CHRIS: He tried to kill me, and I was forced to put a bullet in his head. The whole while that he lay there dying, he was still trying to claw his way toward me, still trying to kill me, like it was the most important thing he could do with his last breath. Can you imagine that?
STILES: No. And it sounds like you need to be a little bit more selectā
CHRIS: Did Scott try to kill you on the full moon? Did you have to lock him up?
STILES: Yeah, I did. I had to handcuff him to a radiator. Why? Would you prefer I locked him in the basement and burned the whole house down around him?
CHRIS: I hate to dispel a popular rumor, Stiles, but we never did that.
STILES: Oh, right. Derek said you guys had a code. I guess no one ever breaks it.
CHRIS: Never!
STILES: What if someone does?
CHRIS: Someone like who?
STILES: Your sister.
Unlike self-proclaimed hero and ruler of Beacon Hills Scott McCall, who immediately sides with the Argents and tells Derek Hale that his family deserved to be burnt alive by the hunters in front of his comatose uncleā¦ā¦ā¦..
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I feel like there is a lot to unpack on Stilesās trauma. And I will go over these moments one by one, why theyāre damaging, what I think the context of the scene is supposed to represent ft how people might take it. And what my personal thoughts are regarding Stilesās trauma.
First of, I would like to say that the following words are my take on this. I am a 29 year old trans man of caucasian descend who is an domestic violence and abuse survivor. I am diagnosed with ADHD since 12 and diagnosed with CPTSD since this year. I understand trauma and I understand what it does to people. But I am not a professional. I am a fan, whoās responding to the submission of another, anonymous, fan.
You are completely free to have your own takes on this matter and your own headcanons. Thatās what fandom is for.
That said, I would love to have a discussion if you can have it peacefully.
Stiles is a character who was (Unwillingly) neglected, emotionally traumatized and both emotionally and verbally abused by both of his parents. There is even evidence of physical abuse by his mother.
I think it does need to be said, that neither of his parents intended for this to happen. What happened in the Stilinski family was by and large a very traumatic event for everyone involved.
Noah is an alcoholic, as Stiles also confirms in the episode that Noah never really stopped drinking. His alcoholism is a result of his own traumas and possible ND mind and an unhealthy coping mechanism.
As a result of this, Noah most likely was verbally and emotionally abusive during his drunken tirades.
I personally think that before Claudia was diagnosed and got sick Stiles had a good childhood. His parents tried their best to be good parents for him and laid a good foundation for him. This is evidenced in the bond Stiles seems to have with his father in general. Heās not afraid of his father, heās nervous about consequences. But he never gives off a vibe to me that truly says; I fear this man and I have to stay in line to stay alive.
Unlike Isaac and his father.
This also tells me, that unlike Elias Stilinski, Noah never lashed out physically at Stiles. He was trying to break a cycle of abuse but more than likely still fell victim to it himself when he could no longer cope with trauma and his neurodivergency and started drinking.
That doesnāt mean that heās not guilty of abusing his own son. We know Noah can be neglectful and dismissiveĀ towards Stiles (even though he tries his best not to be) and has a tendency to low key insult Stiles from time to time. Whether or not he truly means to or not is up for debate, I personally think he doesnāt mean to do it, but Stiles is clearly heartbroken every time Noah accidentally lashes out.Ā
As evidenced by sentences:Ā āIāve never believed a word he said since he was born.āĀ āThank you, son I should have had.ā (To Scott)
Stiles already has a deep founded fear that heās not enough, that he killed his own mother, that heās not believed by the people around him, and that people donāt want to take him seriously.
This is clear in every interaction he has with the people around him.
Which also brings me to what happened in 2x09. Now based on the context clues of that scene, I actually donāt believe Stiles saw a play-by-play memory. But rather, Stiles saw his greatest fear play out in a hallucination.Ā
Why do I believe that?
Because in the same scene, Allison has a hallucination about becoming her own worst nightmare (a huntress like Kate) and Scott sees a hallucination of Allison and Jackson making out. (Aka, losing Allison.)Ā
I think the scene both has fabrications and truths in it. The truth is that more than likely, Stiles saw his father getting drunk at his motherās funeral and lashing out at people around him in his drunken stupor. (Which on one hand, one can understand if you take the pain and trauma into account, but itās not a healthy or an okay thing to do, obviously. This is definitely where Noah fell apart.)
I also like to think one of the other adults put a stop to Noahās behavior before he could get out of hand. But we never really see her funeral play out, so that is speculation.
The fabrication is the scene that follows. We know that Claudia was the one that actually said the words to Stiles.Ā āYouāre killing me, heās killing me.āĀ
And that Noah was the voice of reason in that scene.Ā āNo, heās not. Youāre sick, letās go back inside.ā (Or something along those lines. I canāt remember the exact words.)
What I think is more than likely is that Stilesās greatest fear is that his father actually believes he killed his mother. As that is what his mother said to him before she died.Ā And so thatās what he hallucinated under the influence of the wolfsbane.
Stilesās greatest fear is losing both of his parents, no matter in what way that is. He also fears that he failed as a son, and failed to take care of his father. All of this is fueled by losing his mother and watching her die at a very young age.
And that is where Stilesās trauma truly lies. He watched his mother die (at the age of 10) slowly while she lost her mind to a terrible illness.Ā
His father couldnāt handle losing his wife and not being able to help her and the previous traumas he endured in his own childhood. And Stiles had to step up to take care of him. That changes a child and leaves a mark. A mark that Stiles canāt shake.
We know Noah neglected Stiles by not being able to care for him as he should have, we know Noah tends to think Stiles has wild conspiracy theories and tends not to believe him.
Which traumatized Stiles even though Noah didnāt intend for that to happen. That doesnāt mean that Stilesās trauma isnāt real though. Itās very real. This is also the reason why he immediately chooses Derekās side in 1x12.
For Stiles, not being believed is a daily reality and he doesnāt want anyone else to go through that as well. Which is why he chooses Derekās side. Because Stiles, due to his own trauma, is hard-wired to believe the victim and tends to defend them.
Now I think a lot of people take a lot of Stilesās scenes literal because they identify with whatās happening on screen. Because Stiles isnāt being believed by the other characters, the audience tends to take his perspective at face value. Even in situations where itās made clear that Stiles, like other characters, is hallucinating at the time.
And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, but I do think itās something to consider.
Tagging a few people who might want to add a thought or two to this.
@mostly-vo1d @artemisa97 @msmischief101
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alright. molly thoughts.
i had a long conversation with @salamoonder about this the other day, talking souls and bodies and magic and if this does happen, who do we get back, so, wow nice timing on this episode, did not expect that to happen so soon!
but since there seems to be a lot of theorising, here's what i got:
if this is molly. well, it probably isn't, let's put that on the table. i'm definitely a "if a story has an afterlife i like everyone to eventually be together in it" kind of person, so i really hope molly did in fact have a soul (i'll get to why possibly not in a sec), and that said soul is just somewhere else now, i'm fine with that because molly did have a good send-off and now we get to explore his stuff with someone else. if he didn't have a soul and is just gone forever, that sucks more, but either way, tiefling the third left the coat, and made no attempt in this time to reach out to yasha, so barring someone else controlling him (which cree could technically do but i'm not sure if she would), molly's not here
now, who is here, i'm pretty sure depends on how tiefling the third came back
if this is lucien. as far as i'm concerned, the only way lucien would return is if someone (possibly cree, she could, but possibly someone else) actually cast a resurrection spell on him (as opposed to returning the way molly came back). if we assume lucien definitely has a soul, regardless of whether not molly does, because he had this body first, his soul would be the one that's supposed to go here.
now, resurrection specifies the soul comes back if it's able and willing to return. if molly also had a soul, then we have two souls fighting over this body, which maybe lucien won or maybe molly conceded or maybe the spell gave lucien an advantage. if molly doesn't, aka molly's gone forever (see: hollow one theory), then it's just lucien's, there's no problem there
(people have speculated that the reason lucien "died" the first time wasn't actually death, but rather astral projection? which is a theory i'm keeping in mind. but either way, that connection would have been severed when molly got killed, so lucien was definitely dead by that point. if he did get his soul lost in the city, maybe that would count against able and willing to return? but he's definitely the most likely person to come back with a res spell)
(there's also the question of if it is a resurrection spell, why cree would cast it on him now and not before, when she buried lucien? to which i have a couple possible answers. one is that it didn't work before, bc astral projection meant he wasn't actually dead, and soul just lost in the city, so resurrection spells would fail. another is that she lost hope the first time but seeing him alive after she was sure he was dead gave her the incentive to try and make sure that happened again. and the third is that, she just wasn't a powerful enough cleric before, or didn't have the necessary components, but now she is and she does)
if this is a third random tiefling, aka the "molly's body is just gonna keep resurrecting itself bc weird blood magic" approach. given what happened between molly and lucien, this would probably resurrect a new person anyway, but if it had to pick between molly and lucien, molly had it most recently, i don't see why it would pick lucien over him?
(unless we're assuming molly was never real and was just lucien with a weird personality shift that's suddenly gone back to normal for some reason. and beyond the fact that that's very unlikely, i feel like doing that is just spitting in the face of everything molly was about. like no, the life you worked hard for never mattered, you weren't even real, just waiting to be turned back to the thing you tried so hard to get away from. so fuck that option.)
and we've established that unless there's control magic happening, this is not molly
so third person it is! if they woke up the same way molly did, no memories, feeling lost and empty, that would be a very good time for cree to get them back on her side. easy to explain to someone who has no idea who they are that they formed the tomb takers, they were leading this cause, get them to believe in it again. if molly was who he was because of the circus, what's cree's influence gonna do on the third incarnation? which would explain why they seemed so determined about their goal, they do believe in it, even if they're not lucien, they believe they are, so what does that do to a person?
(and honestly i think this is the most interesting one to explore the identity themes so prominent in this campaign, which is basically the nature vs nurture debate, how much does the influence on a person affect who they are? can cree get lucien out of a new person, and if so, could the mighty nein get molly? or is the third person going to be neither?)
which also kinda leads into the fourth theory i've seen around, what if they were all the same person/soul the whole time?
i've got mixed feelings on this one, i think. because on one hand, if that's true, then we kinda circle back to, this is molly. (and i won't get into the "how much does taliesin know/what does the cast want to do about this" pit bc, there's too much discourse in there already, and we'll find out when we find out). but assuming all characters are on the table still, then there's the possibility of yasha getting her best friend back. there's also the possibility of molly's worst fear, what if i get my memories back and i stop being me. and ultimately we won't know which until we find out more, or how the city and the eyes of nine play into this.
and (campaign one spoilers ahead) it kinda links back to my feelings on vax's ending too, like... i'm still questioning on that, what happens now he's different, do they ever get the vax they knew back, does death even mean anything if he's not changed by it, does death have to mean anything, what will, ultimately, make everyone happy? what losses are worth it, even if they hurt?
and those are the same questions i have now, with molly, if we assume they're all facets of the same person rather than different souls. and i, honestly don't have the answer to that? but it's a real interesting thing to explore
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Alright so ive got a couple of lore ideas, not theories not speculations, just my fuzzy angst-fueled ideas of what I think would be cool to see before and after dream escapes, Im not gonna be particularly critical so dont veiw anything here as me condemming or punishing characters I dont like, also im gonna be as vauge as possible as to not go too ooc
First and foremost; wilbur would eventually fuckaround a bit too much with las nevadas and have a run in with fundy. He will start off apologetic and when fundy seems to start to recipricate wilbur will immediatly self sabotage under the assumption that even his own son is scared of him, this escalate into a full blown arguement with wilbur realizing a few things by the end of it one of the more important ones being that he didnt actually get all of ghostburs memories.
Fundy would confide in quackity after this confrentation, quackity would console him and try to take his mind off of how bad it went.
Tommys search for a safe space will continue but with every attempt to make one failing he will become more on edge, he will hear about wiburs escalating acts of terrorism and while he would defend him against others he would be severely pissed at him, the blow up between them will be damaging to tommy and enlightening to wilbur
Wilbur will not get the full scope of exile until long after dream has already escaped the prison.
Fundy will have a premonition about dream escaping prison, much like before he will confide in quackity about it giving las nevadas time to prepare.
Quackity will try to convince tommy to join them through this, promising safety.
At first when dream and techno escape they have a talk about what they should do, techno would want to return home and hide out from the warden, dream would immedeatly wanna visit friends.
Dreams and technos escape will divide the smp once more though it wont be immediate , as dream starts to talk to more people
The syndicate will be divided but it wont be immediatly obvious to techno and phil as they will be focused on how to proceed theyll keep nikis complaints in mind but ranboo wint vocalise his discomfort with the situation, it doesnt help that it seems that only one person is in his corner. Meetings are akward.
Dream will revive schlatt in order to get him on thie side, he will also reveal that quackity was planning to do the exact same thing once its out that hes alive causing a bigger rift between some of the las nevadas crew and quackity. He will also tell anyone who will listen how awfully he was treated by sam and quackity, this gets all of kinoko on his side.
At some point quackity and/or Sam will act as a buffer between dream and tommy. Perhaps dream will be curious as to how many times one can be revived but needs someone he wouldnt mind losing.
Wilbur at some point trying to contact ghostbur.
Smowchester and las nevadas enter a begrudging alliance.
#dream smp#also everytime i post about how we havent gotten lore in a while lore happens#im gonna manifest it#there are some obvious stuff i want#karlnapity confrentation#people learning just how bad exile was#wilbur learning what dream did to tommy in prison and coming to terms with himself#the egg finale#the 1.18 update being a soft reset.#let me know if i should tag characters#las nevadas#kinoko#c!syndicate#snowchester
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so letās talk about the new bak-u-go stuff
hey guys, so long story short, I took all of the bak-u-go stuff out of my weekly liveblog/recap post, and put it into its own separate post so that it didnāt take over the recap completely. so this is my big āall of my thoughts about the second OFA userās vestige in chapter 304ā post, basically.
my opinion going into the chapter
okay so without mincing words, my very controversial stance on this theory going in was more or less, āyes, I do think that maybe that Bakugou-shaped shadow who looks exactly like Bakugou could, in fact, be Bakugou.ā not only that, but it strikes me as much more feasible than the alternatives, āBakugouās ancestor who looks exactly like him was the second user of OFA for some reason, and Horikoshi keeps hiding his face because... we donāt really knowā, or āthis is just some random guy with spiky hair, and again his face is being hidden just because.ā
like, there is some reason weāre not allowed to know what he looks like, especially at this point. and writing-wise, there are really only three possible explanations for this. (1) itās a red herring meant to trick us for some reason, (2) his character design hasnāt been completed yet, or (3) something about this characterās appearance is a spoiler, and the reveal is supposed to be a surprise.
regarding (1), I actually think this is the case with the Third. clearly he is not Kirishima as some had speculated. he doesnāt appear to be familiar at all. so if thatās the case, why is his face also being hidden? my theory is that itās simply to lampshade the fact that the Second is being hidden as well. if Second was the only vestige whose face we couldnāt see, it would be beyond obvious at that point that he was someone familiar to us. having another vestige doing the same weird stuff makes him stand out slightly less.
anyways though, as far as Second himself being a red herring, I guess he could be. but a red herring for what? not to say it isnāt possible, but I donāt really see what the purpose would be.
regarding (2), this is a remote possibility, but imo it would be pretty uncharacteristic of Horikoshi. plus by this point heās had more than enough time to flesh the design out. all of the other vestige character designs are completed, and weāve seen all of Second and Third except their fronts and faces by this point. so Iām gonna go out on a limb and say this isnāt the reason.
which leaves (3): this characterās identity is important in some way, and is being purposely kept secret. this to me implies that it must be someone we know (because otherwise it wouldnāt be a spoiler). which basically means that no matter what, the possibilities are about to get weird.
my thoughts on the new āevidenceā in the chapter
first off, my biggest impression is that there really isnāt much new evidence at all either way lol. but okay, letās review what we got.
Iām ignoring Third at this point because I honestly have no idea who he is. he may very well be someone we havenāt met yet, so I donāt think thereās much point in speculating. so letās focus on Second instead.
the hair
first off, his hair isnāt quite right to be Bakugouās. itās darker than Bakugouās hair usually is, at least in the close-up, and also the hair on the nape of his neck doesnāt quite look right; itās got more of an undercut vibe than Bakugouās usually does. Bakugouās hair is usually more out-of-control dandelion puff from the back.
so yeah, Iām not sold by this image. though on the other hand, I will say that as far as the argument that his hair is too dark, thatās undermined by the wide angle panel right before the close-up in which his hair isnāt colored in at all.
so yeah, it could just be something about the lighting in the close-up. also, the RHA scan seems to have upped the contrast a bit more than the original image.
here it doesnāt seem to be quite as dark compared to the wall heās standing against. I could be wrong, though; weāll get a better idea when the official version is released in a couple days.
but overall the style of the hair seems more off to me than the color. on the whole, Iām not really convinced either way here, so Iāll move on.
the rest of him
okay so first off, obviously this is not Bakugouās current hero costume in any way, shape or form. honestly my first thought was āwhat is Shippuuden-era Naruto doing here in the OFA Mystical Space Landā lol. so yeah, no idea what thatās all about.
however he does have gauntlets! so this is definitely someone with some sort of arm or hands-related quirk. and Kacchan does have a new gauntlet design that weāll see in movie 3, so itās not outside the realm of possibility that these could be another new design along those lines. that said, these are clearly not his current big ugly grenade-style gauntlets.
last but not least, this person seems older than Bakugou, which for me makes me considerably less enthused about the possibilities here, since Iām a weirdo who likes the idea of a timeskip even less than most people seem to like the idea of time travel, lol. then again there really isnāt much here to support thatĀ āhe seems olderā statement; thatās just the general vibe I get from him, idk.
I will say though that he has Kacchanās same triangle-shaped torso with the same broad shoulders and upper back tapering down into a more slender build. that stuck out to me right away when I looked at this image. but he really does give off Naruto vibes as well lol, like I canāt unsee it sob.
anyway, and last but not least,
the hidden faces
because so far most of the attention seems to be on their appearances. but those aside, this chapter introduces a very interesting question that this mystery will have to address one way or the other. namely, why are these two vestiges turned around and not interacting with the others?
āso that we canāt see their faces, duhā -- no, I get that, lol. but letās talk in-story explanation now. why are they huddled in the time-out corner not moving or speaking? what could possibly be the reason for that. we can see them clearly enough, so we know that theyāre āunlockedā and fully formed in that sense. All Mightās vestige is the only one thatās not yet visible, and supposedly thatās because he was quirkless?? and so he didnāt have a quirk factor that could be passed down through OFA initially. though I didnāt quite understand all of that part tbh.
but so then whatās the deal with these two losers? are they just antisocial or what? OFA First says that the vestige souls which were chilling out inside of OFA gradually gained the ability to take a physical form as OFA grew more powerful. and these two clearly have taken a physical form. so then why donāt they talk? there are only a few explanations for this that I can see.
(1) it could be that these guys are still alive, just like All Might (who doesnāt seem to be able to speak either, although the other vestiges can communicate with him in other ways).
(2) or, these guys are purposely hiding from Deku for some reason. (or at least, hiding as best as they can in this weird little rock slab floating in space.)
thatās it. if anyone else can think of more possibilities let me know because Iāve been sitting here racking my brain lol. this is all I can come up with. and honestly, either of these explanations would be suspicious as hell, theory-wise. if these two vestiges are still alive, that almost guarantees time travel right there. and if itās simply that theyāre hiding themselves from Deku, then that begs the question of why. which, again, leads us back to ātheyāre familiar, and Deku would recognize them.ā (though that last bit goes against what I was saying earlier about the Third, doesnāt it. honestly Iām just spitballing here now, I havenāt really thought this all out too thoroughly.)
soooo... yeah. thatās pretty much where Iām at. nothing about this seems to make any more sense than it did a chapter ago tbh. though I will end this post by addressing one more thing, just cuz.
āthis theory is dumb and makes no senseā
the correct statement to make here isnāt āthis makes no senseā; itās āwe donāt know whatās going on yet.ā if and when we finally get an explanation, then we can start making judgments about how much sense it does or doesnāt make. but until then we have nothing to base that verdict on.
same thing with āitās dumbā -- look, āI hate time travel plots because they rarely workā is a valid opinion. but ārarelyā isnāt the same thing as ānever.ā there are good time travel plots out there. idk why everyone keeps rolling with the assumption that this is going to be some cliche plot hole-filled science fiction bs narrative with a tragic ending. we have literally nothing to base that on. we have no answers and a whole lot of questions, is what we have.
maybe it will be disproven! or maybe it wonāt, and it will be exactly as awful as everyone thinks and it will ruin the manga entirely. or maybe it will actually be really cool. we donāt know yet. thatās my one and only conclusion here -- that we shouldnāt jump to conclusions. but then again I guess it wouldnāt be BnHA fandom if we didnāt. anyway so thus concludes my post.
#bnha 304#bakugou katsuki#bak-u-go#bnha theories#bnha meta#bnha#boku no hero academia#bnha spoilers#mha spoilers#makeste reads bnha#and now I gotta get back to editing the recap post which is a hot mess rn lol#I might be later than usual with that today#it was a weird chapter and I had to read multiple translations to figure out wth was going on#but anyways
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