#also jess and rory as childhood friends? but this time lorelai LOVES HIM
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literati au where liz abandoned jess at luke’s dinner at the age of 10 because she couldn’t deal with this kid anymore, so luke took him in because honestly what else would he do? but also. lorelai loves jess so much because she’s saw him grown from this really 10 years old angry kid to this annoying teenager who asks her “how many coffee you had today, lorelai?” and she’d be like “not enough, jessie” and just. jess is always welcome at the gilmore’s household because at this point he is family and when liz danes comes back and saying she’s sorry and she wants to do right by him, lorelai literally yells at her that maybe, just maybe, she shouldn’t have left the kid outside of luke’s in the middle of the winter at 4am in the morning.
#also jess and rory as childhood friends? but this time lorelai LOVES HIM#he is always welcome at her house#she’s always checking on him#making sure he’s okay after a long day at school#she knows he wants to ditch most of the time because he’s super smart so she let him help her at the inn#if he promises to study#jess and rory hanging out with lorelai watching movies on friday nights#jess doesn’t tolerate dean which makes lorelai doesn’t tolerate him either so dean basically doesn’t exist in this universe#just….. lorelai cares for jess and sees him more than a troubled kid#he’s like a son to her and she wants him to be with rory 😭#lorelai gilmore#jess mariano#luke danes#rory gilmore#jess x rory#literati#gilmore girls#or speaks now
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Other examples of parents on Gilmore Girls thinking they're doing the right thing but unintentionally messing up their kids:
Richard worked a lot to provide for his family and keep the Gilmore name good -> Lorelai feels neglected to the point that years later she feels like she has no good childhood memories with his father
Emily put a lot of pressure on Lorelai being prim and proper and lady-like and took her to all upper class events to keep up appearances and socialize her -> Lorelai hated the events, felt like she didn't fit in and couldn't be herself, started resenting her mother and outright rebelled
Lorelai decided to treat Rory like her best friend rather than her daughter most of the time -> Rory felt even more pressured not to let her mom down and to be perfect
Mrs Kim raised her daughter with traditional religious values and healthy diet -> Lane felt stifled at home and started sneaking around and rebelling in secret
Luke showed Jess tough love and pressured him to graduate high school otherwise he will kick him out -> Jess ran away and decided that he would rather be homeless than told what to do
I am sure there are also plenty of examples of characters thinking they're doing the right thing but actually being detrimental to another character who is not their child. I can think of is potentially Rory stringing Dean along instead of just being cruel to be kind and breaking up with him when she no longer had feelings for him or Rory telling Tristan to ask Paris out which just hurt Paris more. This happens in real life all the time so I really appreciate it on this show. People are rarely pure evil and have evil intentions.
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do you ever think about how lonely jess must have felt when he first moved to stars hollow? to be trapped in that tiny snow globe of a town for his junior year where everyone’s already formed friendships and cliques and groups and his teachers teaching shit he either already knows and knows better than them or shit he doesn’t know and can never catch up with. to know in his heart that staying with luke isn’t an unconditional thing; that the minute he screws up, he’s gonna get kicked out. to have nothing to do all day every day and to know all the things he could be doing in new york. to have left behind friends a month after 9/11, where people have lost businesses and jobs and family members. to just want to be 18 already so he can get out and live independently and not have to be a burden on anyone. trying to find extra income in a town that completely mistrusts him. and by the way, i have no doubt in my mind that there were kids in that town who pulled shit worse than jess did and blamed it on him because jess is like that town’s boo radley. do you ever think about how alone jess is in stars hollow that he latches to the one person he finds a connection with? how lonely he must be to bet $90 just so he can have lunch with this girl who seems to be the only one in town to not have crucified him yet?
Hi Anon,
Awe this makes me so sad 😢 Yeah I do think about how Jess must have felt living in Stars hollow from time to time, and how Rory was the only one he felt safe, and comfortable around in that town that he definitely did latch onto that. The fact that she would go out of her way defending him to her mom ensuring that he is a good person and not who they think he is. Omg yes he did just want so badly to be 18 and independent so he could depend on himself he was scared to have anyone depend on him mostly because he has never had anyone to depend on. Him growing up in a neglectful childhood at best and his condition for staying with Luke if he did slip up he might get kicked out. I do think about these things, and it rips my stomach apart especially the way Lorelai treated him. Like I love Lorelai but sometimes come on he was just a kid. She would use the he was just a kid excuse for Dean all the time, but with Jess it was no he's unforgivable! It's maddening to me really. I also think about how if Jess went to Chilton with Rory would he have done better in school because it would challenge him more because intellectually he was more on that level. (Now I'm thinking of Distilla Truent and I want to go re-read it!) There probably were kids in the town who pulled stuff like that around school and blamed Jess. I am forever wishing Asp had given Jess real friendships and Jess had joined Rory's friend groups and became friends with Lane, Dave, and Paris! Rambles about this forever!
#jess mariano#gilmore girls#rory gilmore#literati#jess and rory#rory and jess#jess x rory#team jess#rory x jess
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To add on if I can: Logan doesn't recognize Rory is in a hole during that time because her condition is what HE wanted for himself. He was probably envious of Rory's "freedom" during her time off of Yale. She had endless funds (Emily and Richard supplying all of her basic needs and then some, including designer clothes, a whole pool house, food, and arguably spending money), she had no one forcing her to go to school or do things she didn't want to, and could party and hang out pretty well whenever.
Logan was very outspoken that if he could just not do anything and sail around on yachts, drink at pubs, and party with his friends, he'd be happy. If he could have his fully funded lifestyle without any of the catch (you must go to Yale, you just graduate, you must take your place in the Huntzberger business), it would be his dream come true. So when Rory has that opportunity fall into her lap, by leaving Yale and experiencing minimal pushback (she loses Lorelai but Emily and Richard are right there to support her and the decision and to Logan that didn’t seem like a big deal), why would he push her to go back? Why would he help her out of a hole he doesn't recognize? To him, school is a chore and an obligation. He doesn't understand seeing it as a dream to fulfill. He doesn't understand the gravity of Rory not speaking to Lorelai or cutting herself off from Stars Hollow. He doesn't understand how having no responsibilities can be a bad thing or a sign of trouble for Rory.
The entire time Rory is in this hole, she's itching for something to do. She polishes silver with the maid to talk to her and get to know her. Her community service grew to be something she loved doing because it gave her SOMETHING to do and she even became a leader in it. Getting a job was her idea from the beginning, the DAR was simply an in Emily could give her. She was excited about the job, and she also loved it because it gave her a purpose again. She poured her all into everything she did during the "time off" because Rory doesn't want time off. From childhood, she was involved in every Stars Hollow activity. She was on multiple committees and clubs in school, and she kept herself busy otherwise. But Logan doesn't know any of this about Rory and doesn't recognize in her that she wanted more, she was just lost and couldn't bring herself to go back.
Jess on the other hand, knows all of this and more about Rory. He knows how seriously she takes her schooling and how much time and effort she poured into getting into Harvard/Yale. He knows how much Lorelai means to her and what them not speaking truly means. He knows Rory's thoughts on so many things because they talked about everything! They were always discussing their views on something! They made fun of people like Logan together! Jess knows how devoted Rory was to her friends, her family, and her town. He saw all of it from the second he arrived in Stars Hollow until the moment he left. He's also smart enough to know that when those things are also that meaningful and important to someone, they don't change over the course of 2-3 years. Your fundamental views and opinions don't shift that drastically.
So yeah. Jess 100% understood Rory was in a hole and lost better than Logan ever could because Logan could never see it that way. He had no resources to be able to recognize how much she was truly drifting.
So I'm thinking right now of an issue that often came up on the Gilmore Girls subreddit, and that I often heard from L/L fans who intensely disliked Jess, which is that Jess was presumptuous to tell Rory in S6 that he "knew her better than anyone", that he only idealized the Rory he knew from high school, that he didn't know or understand her current circumstances at all, that he had no right to encourage her to go back to Yale, and that only Logan really understood the real Rory and knew what was best for her, because (and this is my absolute favorite part of the argument) "Rory likes having nice things and spending money."
I mean, objectively, some of these things are true, because she's spent the last year with Logan and Jess hasn't had much contact with her since high school. And yet...is she happy? Does she want to stay where she is? Is her relationship with Logan doing her much good? Is he doing much of anything to help her claw herself out of that hole? Is he encouraging her to go back to Yale? Is he giving her the push that she needs to fix her life?
And really...can Rory's personality be boiled down to someone who likes to spend money? Because in S6 as in the AYITL era, it seems more of a cushion that keeps her from moving on than anything that's really improving her life, and she only is able to move on when she embraces her roots and returns home to her mom, to Star Hollow, to furthering her goals, even if she doesn't play to stay home permanently.
ASP writes Logan as part of a toxic cycle, yearning for independence but unable to let go of the advantages he'll have to give up if he leaves. This seems to be a settled reality in AYITL: he can't leave, and she doesn't want to stay in his world, because she'd have to give up too much to live there. Her life is outside of there, and Jess is always an implied part of that future. Logan can't help her claw herself out of that hole because he can't find a way out of himself.
(Let it be known that S7 does not follow this blueprint and I think Logan can be better than that, but that wasn't in the original game plan).
And Jess? Well, he already did claw himself out of a life he didn't want. So he does know Rory better, and he is the right person to inspire her to change her life.
So don't be mad at my boy. He was right!
#i went off a bit but i have SO many thoughts about this#and i dont think this is anti logan in any way either#he just 1) didnt know stars hollow rory#and 2) his dream was rorys nightmare#which imo almost foreshadows why the relationship would never work
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How did Kristy react to her grandfather’s heart attack?
oh boy time to unpack my childhood trauma let’s go (thank you for sending this I’m having a very cathartic breakdown rn 💖💖)
tw for medical content, some trauma, and almost losing a loved one
So, Kirsty has finished school by now and is living in New York full time, but she and Jess came up for Luke’s custody battle (they both speak on his behalf, and Rory writes a letter — and none of them actually told Luke so he was very shook) and decided to hang around because Kirsty had another week before rehearsals and they decided to hang out with Rory and Tristan! Logan had to stay in New York for work though, so they’re staying at Tristan’s apartment!
Anyways, Kirsty decided to go to Richard’s first lecture with Rory! She wasn’t in his class the semester before, and Richard is of course very excited to have both of his granddaughters there! Tristan is also in the class, so the three of them are sitting together while Jess hangs out at the apartment and writes!
The downside to this is that it means that Kirsty is there when Richard has the heart attack, and is obviously like, very completely distraught at the whole thing. Tristan calls an ambulance and tries to comfort both girls while they wait, he also calls Jess who meets them in the classroom. The ambulance arrives and Rory and Kirsty ride with Richard, while Jess and Tristan drive after them so they’ll have a car. Jess also calls Luke, and then Logan, and the entire time that Babette is telling him about it, his phone is ringing off the hook, and when the conversation ends and he finally picks up the phone it’s Jess.
So both Kirsty and Rory are like very not okay, obviously, and when Lorelai walks in, it’s the first time that they’ve seen each other since Lorelai told the girls about sleeping with Christopher, which as a side note was 13 episodes and about seven months ago, and the first time they’ve talked at all since Lorelai told her about the marriage.
Lorelai sees Kirsty and freezes, but Kirsty just immediately runs over and hugs her, and very quietly/half sobbing goes “mom” and then Lorelai is crying too and then Rory joins the group hug.
and then Emily gets there and there’s more crying and hugging, and then Logan gets there and that’s emotional too and then Luke gets there and anyways yeah it’s a lot of emotions and a lot of crying
and then they get to see Richard and it’s even more emotional and Tristan and Jess offer to go with Luke to get Richard’s car so that way they can drive the truck back, Logan still goes with Rory to deal with paying the fish guy because he’s just like “nope you shouldn’t be driving right now” and they’re still best friends, and Kirsty stays at the hospital with Emily and Lorelai and it’s difficult because once the panic is subsiding a bit the tension between Lorelai and Kirsty comes back, and Kirsty is getting very pissed about Christopher ignoring Lorelai’s calls but she also doesn’t want him to show up
A slight change from canon but when Christopher finally shows up at the hospital, it’s after Luke has gone over all the food he brought back and talked to Lorelai and as he’s coming down the hall he sees Kirsty hugging Luke (and Lorelai smiling very fondly as she watches) and pulling Rory in and Luke doing his usual “oh geez” but hugging them both back really tightly.
As soon as she notices Christopher, Kirsty pulls away, thanks Luke for coming and tells him she loves him, and then quickly retreats with the boys, completely ignoring Christopher’s attempts at talking to her. When Christopher and Rory are going down to visit Richard, Rory asks Kirsty if she wants to come with, and Kirsty says that she’s actually going to go for a walk to clear her head, and to call her once Christopher is gone, which only serves to piss Christopher off even more — he and Lorelai have a minor argument that basically boils down to “are you really going to let her act like this” and Lorelai basically saying “she just saw her grandfather have a heart attack a few hours ago this is not the time for this”
Afterwards she visits every day with Rory and Lorelai and Emily until Richard goes home, at which point she has to return to New York
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I was tagged by @lorelaigilmo!! ily Maayan!!!
Rules:
Choose any three fandoms and answer the questions, then tag some friends!
I choose:
Gilmore girls
Avatar: The Last Airbender
One Tree Hill
The first character you loved:
Love loved, Jess, but I remember being super into Lorelai x Luke before he showed up!
On my rewatch probably Aang cause he’s baby from ep 1 but Toph’s introduction was one of only two scenes I remembered from watching it as a kid so I guess that says something!
Jake Jagielski
The character you never expected to love so much:
Probably Paris, her development from semi-stereotypical mean girl to loyal frenemy is SO GOOD!! That being said I also didn’t expect to still be talking about Jess 5 years after watching but here we are
SUKI!!! Also as @julesblackthorns friend I am legally obligated to say Mai <3 OH also Sokka...I think I just love them all
Jake Jagielski...name a more iconic duo than me and my attachment to characters with limited screen-time <3
The character you relate to the most:
Rory! I used to specify “Early Seasons Rory” but considering I’m also sitting in my childhood bedroom with no plans for life after uni I think I can just say “Rory” now 🥴
I’ve thought about this a lot and I really don’t think there’s one specific character! Maybe if you took Sokka’s puns and mixed it with Aang’s excessive politeness and desire for everyone to Just Get Along...
Haley! Maybe with a little of Peyton’s creativity
The character you’d slap:
(omg this one stresses me out)
There’s no real villains in GG everyone is at least a little bit likable...that being said I’d fight Dean in the Doose’s parking lot 💖
Ozai’s 5′8″ I can take him.
Lucas...🤫 (I’m sorry all his cheating plot lines were just so tiring...)
Three favorite characters (in order of preference):
Jess, Lorelai, Luke (Rory ily2 I promise...also honorable mention to Kirk and Dave 💖)
This is too stressful...I love them all genuinely
Jake, Brooke, Haley?? Maybe...I’d have to rewatch
A character you liked at first but don’t anymore:
None!
None!
Lucas, he was my favorite Scott brother for the first few eps...naivety
A character you did not like at first but now do:
Paris! An obvious one
None!
Brooke!
Three OTPs:
Jess x Rory, Luke x Lorelai, Dave x Lane (THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE ENDGAME >:/)
Suki x Sokka, all the rest I just really love the friend dynamics!!! Literally every combination of characters brings out a new level of stupidity <3
Jake x Peyton, Haley x Nathan, Bevin x Skills (lol)
I tag @julesblackthorns @sanssa @rorylgilmore
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What do your Gilmore Girls oc’s think of Christopher/what is their relationships with him like?
Okay so I had like over four paragraphs typed up for this and then my computer misclicked and I lost it all lmao.
But in a word: Bad. In multiple: Really Freaking Bad.
Noah ( Doose), Tino ( La Costa) and Lily ( St. James) all love Rory so so much. So even though their interactions with Christopher are limited compared to some of my other ocs they still hate him. They know better than others how much it hurts Rory when he isn’t there for her since two of them ( Tino and Lily) have known her since childhood. Lily and Tino see themselves as Rory’s honorary siblings ( Tino goes on record calling himself Rory’s unofficial twin) so the whole “He actually came to Stars Hollow this time!” and all the times he does things that hurt her have them more or less feral.
For Noah he’s dating Rory from s2 or s3 I haven’t decided yet so he gets a bigger picture of Christipher and is unimpressed because as far as he’s concerned, Rory is the best girl and deserves a lot better. Also Christopher might or might not be a POS when he finds out about Logan, Noah, and Rory.
Tbh Noah at some point might go “I have crippling anxiety and depression but I also have a hockey stick and knife shoes ( skates ) and I’m willing to fight both your dads because holy shit” to both Logan and Rory.
Hope is both more civil and more openly disliking of Christopher. She knows full well what a number their parent’s controlling and critiquing everything they do does a number on Lorelai. So she tends to be very “You call all the shots in your life. I support you as long as you’re happy.” to be the opposite of Emily and Richard and at one point, when Lorelai is nervous about telling her something says “I’m not mom and dad Lore. I won’t belittle your choices. I’m always on your corner” ( which ;A;)
So Hope bites her tongue a bit and utilizes the skills she learned in therapy to manage her own emotional responses when it comes to The Whole Christopher Deal
This does not mean Hope does not have opinions about The Whole Christopher Deal.
Like basically she thinks he’s a weak man who can’t even speak up when Lorelai is being belittled by her own parents while singing him praises. She is very unimpressed by how little part Christopher has taken in Rory’s life when Lorelai has always had the door open. ( though she also feels like since she ended up losing touch with them as well she’s no better even tho Hope bby nooo you were protecting yourself from abuse its so not the same)
That’s not even the worse of it tho since, due to being Lorelai’s older sibling Hope is more aware than my other ocs of how much hurt Lorelai deals with from her relationship with her parents and what the abuse/ neglect does to her ( having suffered it herself as well) and how exactly that plays with her and her relationship with Christopher.
She hates HATES that he messes with her head. She hates that Lorelai seeks out affection in men like him and that they hurt her, that he hurts her. She understand them in a very Big Picture way and hates Christopher all the more for it. Like it starts off at Unimpressed in s1 and only gets worse the more pieces she understands. After the wedding vow fiasco she loses whatever scraps of respect she had for him and thinks that the fact that he was willing to break up a relationship Lorelai was happy in is a huge ass red flag about him and openly dislikes him and hates him. She keeps it civil when Lore gets back with him for Rory and Lorelai’s and Gigi’s sake but there’s a pretty open dislike between the two that has been there from the start ( because you can only imagine how Christopher reacted to Hope being unimpressed with him and with her telling Lorelai she deserves better he p much hates her too)
Amelia Hates him with a seething unbridled fury that has less to do with Christopher being sorta passive aggressive and shitty around her ( he wouldn’t Dare do it in front of Lorelai and Rory bc he knows they’d kick him to the curve and Luke would End him and Amelia doesn’t spend any time around him without them so it's vague/passive sorta shittiness.) and so much more to do with the fact that this girl is fiercely Fiercely protective of her family and loved ones ( see for example her willing to fight the entire town meeting for Jess and ranting for an hour and then some afterwards) and Rory is her Big Sister and Lorelai is Her Mother and she has seen them be hurt by him so much already. ( think of that speech Lorelai gives Jess of “Rory is one of the best girls and she deserves to be treated well” but instead it’s “My mother and sister are two of the best people I know and they deserve the world as far as I’m concerned. Not some asshole who leaves them hurt and sad” like she thinks the fact that he doesn’t think they’re worth his time and hurts them is unforgivable and so is how sad he makes them and she’d gladly punch him in the face if she had the chance. And that’s before the vow renewal fiasco where she actually punches him in the face.
Sophia mistrusts him just on account that her parents like him. Lorelai hides from her how much Christopher has hurt her ( she canonically goes out of her way to make sure Rory doesn’t feel like she has to take care of her and has a good relationship with her dad no matter what and she sees Sophia as a kid as well specially as she realizes how badly living with her parents has affected her.) and Rory canonically not only does not talk about her dad to many people but describes herself as “A great compartmentalize.” so it takes a while before she gets the full picture but she’s thoroughly unimpressed even before she does. Also she picks up on the frail hope on Rory’s “He’s never come to town before maybe he’ll stick around.” and it...hits a bit personal for her.
She also would kill for Lorelai and has absolutely given Christopher a shovel talk ( Lore: you’re my baby sister hon, not my babysitter) when he tries to come back into the Gilmore Girl’s lives and as the seasons go she only dislikes him more.
Kit and El are of course Christopher’s sons and boy oh boy there’s just so much resentment there. Like both of them are also “my sister and mom are the best and your hurting them makes me feral.” but on top of that they have their own resentment for him.
With El, Christopher always lumps him with Rory as “the smart kid who reads a lot.” when in truth the twins are their own people and their interests, diverge widely. He gets them the same book whenever he sends anything and it hurts El so much like it makes him feel like he’s some after thought, someone not even worth learning the interests of and he carries that for a long time. It hurts him deeply for a long time.
He absolutely loses it when he finds out that he and Lore got married without any thought not even about him and Rory but about Gigi (“so what you’re gonna have her get used to having a family and then mess her up when you fall short because what? Me and Rory’? We weren’t enough kids to disappoint for you? ) Gigi’s pretty much the only reason he keeps things civil with Christopher bc El’s pretty sure that between Sherry and Christopher she needs someone looking out for her, or the poor kid won’t have a chance and also he loves her so so much. It only makes it worse that Christopher is not above using that to make him be civil.
Kit while a lot less developed so I have less for him is also on the same beats. He’s a smack happy idiot who doesn’t spend time on bad emotions and lets things roll off his back ( and a very big foil to Rory���s catastrophizing and spiraling into anxiety when things go awry) but Christopher may be one of his only sore spots. He struggles a lot with sharing a name with the guy and also with not having a set path career wise or being academically inclined like Rory ( more because it would make him Different than Christopher if it did) one of his biggest fears is that he’s more like his dad than his mom, or that he has too many things in common with his dad. He’s also of course very hurt by how little Christopher drops by in his life and was very aware growing up that other kids’ dads were a lot more present. He skips school on father’s day as sort of his own dark day and usually hangs with Zack and Brian ( who he met before Hep Alien formed) or with Lindsay Lister ( who is actually one of her best friends.) though he does check in on Rory and tries to be there for her because she may be a good compartmentalizer but he’s her twin; he knows when she needs hugs.
I have an idea for a Danes sister and while I know nothing of her I know she’d hate Christopher too. So does the Hayden sister plot bunny who’s nothing more than a concept
Basically fuck Christopher all my OCs hate Christopher lol
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Lorelai Gilmore Character Analysis (updated)
Facts:
Grew up with her an emotionally abusive mother. Including constantly degrading her self-esteem (constantly calling her a disappointment, the “big head” incident. Forcing her into uncomfortable situations. making her act and dress the way Emily likes.)
Parents not taking a large interest in her interests.
Emily wants to be involved with her life but not willing to accept her choices (we see this in her expecting to always know whats going on. but then telling her that her choices are wrong.) Also exemplified in her saying she knows everything about Lorelai only admitting shes wrong once (Rory’s birthday parties.)
Lorelai has very few happy memories of her father. stating he never really played with her or did things with her in general (forgiveness and stuff, the revival of prime for two times she mentions this)
She always forgives her parents. even when the severely cross the line (Emily with breaking up her and luke. Emily always pushing Christopher on the girls. Constantly throwing Lorelai’s mistakes in her face. Emily telling her she never loved her father)
Lorelai took care of Rory by her self-starting at age 16.
Lorelai worked her way up through her job with no college education ( i assume she didn’t graduate high school but I have no idea) then started graduated from business school latter allowing her to start her own business.
Emily and Richard tend to try and control Lorelai. basically using the blackmail of Rory’s education to make Lorelai come to their house. angry when she pays them back but still agrees to visit them.
Was in a long-term relationship with Christopher as a child. Was put in a situation where everyone wanted them to get married. Not wanting this to happen she broke it off.
Attempted to allow Christopher to be a parent but he refused this offer unless Lorelai would marry him.
Has trouble with romantic relationships. breaking off an engagement, having an on again/off again relationship with Christopher eventually marrying him to get a divorce a short time later. Also had a very turbulent relationship with Luke. until the final work things out (post og series into revival) worsened by both of their lack of communication.
is a very loving friend. planning the funeral of her neighbour’s cat, participating in every town event donating her time and skills.
Puts Rory before anything else in her life in every situation. sometimes to a fault being very over cautious with Rory’s dating and education.
has an extremely close relationship with Rory with it being a friendship as much as a mother/daughter thing.
Analysis:
Lorelai is an extremely independent person. She wants to do everything her way and often by herself. This is obviously epitomized by her leaving her parents and supporting herself mostly on her own. She also tries to raise Rory in her way instead of the sheltered my way or the high way life of her parents. works to be the opposite.
Lorelai even in her independent state of mind she does tend to become over-attached to certain people throughout the story. This will happen with her boyfriend at the time. and then revert back to Rory.
Hides her insecurities and self-esteem problems with a strong bravado. These often stem from her childhood and parents. Feels guilt, anger, and frustration with her parents. She deals with these feeling by distancing herself. Another tactic she uses to cope is humour.
has a tendency to bit self-centred. Centring her wishes with the inn over Sookie’s. This problem can be part of her turbulent relations. Some of this is innate Lorelai but also comes from a deep need to control things around her.
self-sabotages often. Sleeping with Christopher when he comes when she knows it will hurt her. Porpously acting out with her parents to garner chaos (though sometimes I think its more of habit than trying to cause harm.)
Splits on people. Max around their proposed marriage, her parents multiple times (as a teenager, with paying the money, the luke brake up, yale etc.), Luke (with jess and April), Rory (Rory’s affair, quitting yale). Often to head off commitment.
Has a lack of self-control in social situations. Tends to speak when she shouldn’t, makes inappropriate comments (like bush and at Richards funeral), and be loud. She also uses humour to cope especially with her mom, so she doesn’t always attempt to hold it together.
Puts Rory before herself especially in the beginning. Her attachment to trying to never put her down sometimes to a point it is detrimental to them both
Has trouble focusing on tasks. Like homework, cooking, general stuff. She has a strong drive to do her work but finds completing the tasks hard. She does mostly get to what she wants.
She is loyal and loving. Helping her friends, throwing the bachelor and baby shower for Lane, painting for Luke, throwing April a birthday party, hanging out with Paris, babysitting for Sookie, and letting Kirk stay with her. One part of this is she has a deep maternal connection to anyone she has affection for. While she can be childish her deep compassion allows the emotion to have a maternal dynamic
Has a lot of old notions of classism. Believing the only way to get into a good college was feign richness by going to private school. This also gives a sense of entitlement she fights through the whole how.
Her communication skills are absolutely awful. This probably stems from her emotions neer being validated and a lack of taught coping skills.
ADHD:
Troubling focusing
Is extremely easily distractible. Switching subjects often, talking fast and getting off topic.
Her space is always disorganized when she is working.
Had trouble getting things started but was okay once she got into the groove.
Always losing things asking Rory to find them for her.
Stims/Fidgets throughout the show. Repeating words as an auditory/vocal stim (coffee, coffee, coffee). Is often showing moving her hands around. Uses foods in this capacity as well.
Not only an existentialy restless but also physically restless. Finds her parents long dinner hard to sit through.
Always talking. This is just her personality but also seems to be used to defuse her anxiety.
Always moving and going places. the trouble with lots of calm places
Extremely impulsive. Makes lots of choices without thinking
BPD:
a pattern of unstable romantic relationships
Extreme and powerful emotions
tendency to self-destruct
Fave person in the form of Rory
works hard to try and fend off abandonment often by running the relationship before it truly is at that point
acts impulsively on thoughts and feelings
struggles to understand and express her emotions
Intense mood swings
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I'm loving the GG positivity lately, so let's keep it going :) Name your three favorite qualities about each of these characters: Lorelai, Rory, Emily, Richard, Luke, Paris, Jess, Logan, Sookie, Lane, Michel. I like you too much to force you to come up with three favorite things about Liz, TJ, or Anna!
This is so fun!!!! I love seeing all the GG positivity too. Thanks for the message, this makes me happy :) ok here we go!!
3 favorite things about:Lorelai -1. she loves with all she’s got/how she loves luke with all she’s got2. but she’s also independent as heck3. coffee addict!!! aka me!!
Rory - 1. she’s a dreamer2. loves to learn (when i don’t want to study or school has me burnt out i literally ask myself what would rory gilmore do???)3. super protective of the ones she loves (ex. being mad at emily for breaking luke and lorelai up, telling her dad to stay away bc she didn’t want him ruining lorelai’s life for the umpteenth time, etc.)
Luke - 1. the most reliable human on this earth2. his love for lorelai (and rory) wtf it’s so beautiful3. strives to be the best version of himself (can we talk about the character progression in the revival wowza)
Emily - 1. how much she loves richard2. she’s actually freakin hilarious (BULLSHIT)3. like rory, she is fiercely protective of the ones she loves (even if that causes issues)
Richard - 1. HOW MUCH HE ADORES RORY 2. how much he loves emily3. how he secretly can be a pushover for lorelai (ex. when he lets her climb out of the window to get out of emily’s dull dinner with that annoying guy)
Jess -1. his SARCASM i love it so much2. he pushes himself to be better (and also pushes rory!!!)3. his strength
Paris - 1. her bluntness and honesty, because paris wouldn’t be paris without it2. she loves a challenge (ex. telling rory she needs her because she’s her only real competition)3. she’s just so relatable
Logan - 1. lives life to the fullest2. ballsy (like when he goes to lorelai to win rory back knowing full well that lorelai is not a fan of him at all!!!!!!!)3. he’s such a gentleman honestly (i swoon when he pays for rory’s coffee, it’s the little things ok)
Sookie - 1. she takes pride in her work2. she is an amazing best friend and always told lorelai what she needed to hear, not what she wanted to hear3. was the first LL shipper and for that i’ll always have a deep appreciation
Lane - 1. rocks to the beat of her own drum!!!!2. respects her mother so much that she lived a life full of secrets her entire childhood bc she knew it would actually crush her mom 3. literally the best friend ever, she was always so excited about things in rory’s life (like when rory told her she had sex that is one of my favorite lane scenes ever)
Michel - 1. how much he loves his dogs 2. he is so loyal to lorelai3. his attitude is how i wish i could act everyday tbh
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ok so i just realized that during the revival hype lauren mentioned that she has to wear a costume for one of the final scenes and we were all like OMG WEDDING DRESSS but like that didn't happen and i know there were last minute budget cuts that changed everything but like we were so close and im bitter ok thx
We feel you, we honestly do! We complained about that fact a thousand times to each other, over and over again. We never get tired of picking on the things we didn’t like or we could have had. The whole fandom is probably with you on this. We wish we never knew about the dresses and the possibility to have the wedding of all weddings and not the cheap, yet beautiful elopement, where so many important people were missing.
It’s OK to be bitter, there were a lot of hopes and expectations for the revival and the wedding, especially when they teased us like this. But let’s canalize all this bitterness and let us come up with what the real wedding would have looked like.
What we know for sure: (x) and (x)
The ceremony/reception will be on November 5 in the middle of the town. (Even though Lorelai mentions it will be on a Sunday, which would be November 6…)
Lorelai will wear more than one wedding dress. One will be inspired by Jackie O and other famous wedding styles. (To our mind comes Diana, right?) Miss Celine is the one making the dresses, but Lorelai will probably help her because Miss Celine is like a thousand years old.
Luke will wear that suit that he looks as hot as Rande Gerber. He will even wear the pocket square - Jess will make sure he does!
The decoration is inspired by Alice in Wonderland. You enter the location through a door with a huge key, walking through a tunnel of white clothes before you see the whole town square decorated with all these beautiful flowers, twinkle lights all over the place. Then there’s the tunnel with the heads,. A car works as a decoration, the Stars Hollow sign is serving as a cute little welcome sign and reminder of the wedding. The couches and stools next to the gazebo invite the guest to chill and talk. While at the richly decorated table the hot dogs can be eaten.
All of Stars Hollow will be present, even Caesar will be allowed to come.
Emily will come all the way from Nantucket to the wedding, probably still not believing that Lorelai will actually get married, even though Lorelai had assured her. However, Lorelai had persuaded her, in the end, to invite her friends, after all, they were on the guest list.
Kiefer Sutherland might show up, we don’t know if he will make it. One thing is for sure it will be the biggest mystery of the wedding and a running gag.
Reverend Skinner will officiate the second ceremony as well.
Rory is the bridesmaid, and she will be excellent at it.
There will be two flash-mobs. Lorelai’s will be to “Relax don’t do it” with Patty’s girls, who wear t-shirts with Luke’s face on it. It will get crazy, cheesy, and Luke will want to leave the reception as soon as the song starts playing.
Luke’s flash mob will be a disaster with the song change Lorelai had ordered last minute. (Either Luke will get so flustered that he won’t know what do anymore, or he will suck it up and just go through with whatever choreography had worked so hard on. Either way, Lorelai will be super proud of him.)
Both the flash mobs will successfully entertain the guests and nothing else matters.
Sookie is in charge of the wedding cake. The milestone cake will be the official wedding cake, but maybe Sookie made a different one after all - you never know with her. They will get displayed on a table somewhere, maybe even in the gazebo. There will be a lot of leftover cake and Lorelai will eat it for weeks after.
Kirk is in charge of all the organizing of the wedding, and his skills in that department have improved a lot: An incident like the egg incident a decade ago won’t happen this time around, partly because there won’t be an easter-egg-hunt.
What we can assume (headcanon-time!):
Even though April never gets mentioned she’ll be there to see her father getting married. Finally, she will be able to cal Lorelai her step-mother and Rory her step-sister. It’s the beginning of the Gilmore-Danes-Nardini-fam, which we all grew to love so much.
Lorelai won’t be able to hold back the tears when she realizes that her father can’t be there to witness her big day. There will a heartfelt exchange between Emily and Lorelai, which hopefully won’t be interrupted by any of the townies.
Either Emily and/or Rory will walk Lorelai down the aisle and will give her away to Luke. There won’t be any threatening words, but Emily’s look will tell Luke she will hunt him down if he ever dares to hurt her daughter.
Speeches will be held. Rory is giving probably the most heartfelt one, making everyone sob like a baby (like she did when she gave the speech at her high school graduation). Liz’s speech will be a wild one, filled with all these creepy, yet somehow adorable childhood memories. She loves her big brother dearly.
The dance floor gets probably entertained by Kirk as a DJ and/or Hep Alien will play live. There will be dancing all day and night long. Morey and Babette will be the last ones to leave the dance floor. Morey will moreover play some music himself because it’s a special occasion, he will melt Babette’s heart with that. However, Babette and Miss Patty have prepared some songs themselves to declare their love for their dream couple.
Either there won’t be a father-daughter-dance at all, or Emily will dance with Lorelai. Luke will ask April to dance, and halfway through the song, he will ask Rory to dance with him. Rory is a little bit his and he steps up to all the step-father duties.
Lorelai and Luke will dance to “Reflecting Light” again. Liz and TJ will get emotional since it was their first dance as husband and wife too.
Jess acts as the best man for Luke, taking care of him and giving him the support he needs.
Paul-Anka and Petal will have some kind of role in the wedding, maybe bearing the rings, or ruining a nice or emotional moment. Paul-Anka will wear a big white bow on his back, and so does Petal.
Doula would have the right age to act as a flower girl, so has Martha. Davey might be the ring bearer after all, or Lane’s twins. All the kids have some special role and will be involved in the wedding.
Babette and Miss Patty will sit in the first row at the ceremony, sobbing like little girls when Lorelai and Luke exchange their vows. They will hug them so tightly, that Luke thinks he might not be able to breathe ever again. And then he will get the shock of his life when Babette and Patty will finally pinch his butt. Lorelai will shrug her shoulders and smile at him.
Liz and TJ will entertain half the wedding party with their stories of the vegetable cult they were in for about half a year. But they will avoid any explanation for all the couches they have at the new home. (Maybe they are in a couch cult now?)
Luke knows Cousin Billy, he totally forgot about him and he is embarrassed to admit that to Lorelai. She will find out much later.
It will scare the crap out of Luke when he sees Paris at his wedding. Lorelai was like a mother to her and therefore she could not miss the wedding.
Even though it is Luke’s wedding day, Taylor will find a reason to annoy him. It will probably have something to do with some rules and the town’s regulations.
Kirk will get tangled up in the white clothes and will need to be rescued from it.
Later, Kirk will get into a fight with Lulu because he doesn’t have enough time to dance with her. He has to make sure everything goes according to Lorelai’s plan and that leaves no time for dancing or some crazy times on the couch.
Michel will come to the wedding with his husband. It will be their last big event before their kid gets “delivered”. Frederic will drive everyone crazy with his special orders for the food, everything needs to be served on separate plates.
The 30-something-gang will work as waiters at the wedding, they don’t have anything else to do and they can put another waiter job on their résumé. The parents of the 30-something-gang will be forever grateful for that.
Crazy Carrie will forever be bitter that A) she isn’t invited to the party and B) Luke is off the market for good now. She will hold onto the rumor she made out with him under the bleachers though.
Mrs. Kim will ask Lorelai if her new choir can perform at the wedding, and since Lorelai still is a little scared of her she agrees on it, but she cringes the entire time the choir performs.
Moreover, Mrs. Kim will give her some useful antique as a present, telling her who that item has belonged to some time and why he or she was important to the country’s history.
Mr. Kim won’t be able to make it to the wedding because he will be off on a business trip again.
The guests will demand countless times of Lorelai and Luke to kiss by clinking their glasses. Lorelai enjoys that very much and is happy that Luke is for once comfortable with that kind of public display of affection.
There will be some of Patty’s founder’s day punch, and Emily will try it out and get a little tipsy. Miss Patty and she will bond over it and laugh just as much as at her bachelorette party all these years ago.
Emily will be just as smitten with Gypsy as she was when she first met her at the same party she bonded with Miss Patty. When she’s tipsy, she will confess to her that she reminds her of her maid Berta. Gypsy will think Emily is crazy because Emily won’t have a picture to prove it to her. In the end, Gypsy will be very thankful when Lorelai rescues her from Emily, telling her mother the cab she asked for had arrived.
Kirk will be the last one to be at the reception because as the organizer he’s also in charge of the clean-up.
Lorelai and Luke will spend their first night as husband and wife at home, having the house completely to themselves. Lorelai will want to discuss everything that has happened and Luke will actually have to talk her into sleeping with him.
You’re welcome to add all of your headcanons! The more the better - we can come up with all the subplots for the “shebang” AS-P intended to have.
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Gilmore Girls, Season Three: Eps. 1 & 2
Okay, been a while. Been job hunting and every application I filled out seemed to have a follow up come in over the course of a few days. Two scams, two rejections and seven telling me to fill out more stuff and be on the look out for another set of follow ups. Got a little overwhelmed and had to spend some of my free time ( not filling out applications) watching Russell Howard stand-ups and listening to Christopher Moore novels. Comfort food. Gilmore Girls might end up in my "Calm Your Ass Down" stash along with The Princess Bride, Fututama, Jenny Lawson books, Fullmetal Alchemist, Bowling for Soup, and various other books, movies, shows, and music that seem to have the ablity to make my brain stop chasing its tail. But I have to finish it first.
Episode 1 - I usually try to pick a character, start at the beginning of their plot for the episode. That isn't going to work this time because once this episode was over, I was left with two questions:
1. Why is everyone in this show so obsessed with marriage?
2. Why is Lorelai getting the blame, yet again?
Why do Christopher and Richard think that to be a father you have to be married to the mother? I know I haven't gotten the whole story yet but so far I have never gotten the impression that Lorelai ever discouraged Christopher from being a dad to Rory. From what I gathered, it was his choice to be minimally involved for much of her childhood. Someone can be a parent while not being married. I mean, shit, most of the kids I grew up with had parents who weren't together and most of them had relationships with both their mom and dad. You know the whole "I'm at my Dad's this weekend" thing. Hell, that's how I met one of the women I'm still friends with. I lived next door to her dad and she, along with her brothers, would stay with him every other weekend.
Richard was, again, way off base. She didn't deprive Christopher of being a father to Rory because she didn't marry him. All she did was prevent Rory from having an unhappy childhood by not having her grow up with parents who were forced into a marriage. Christopher could have been a dad to Rory any time he chose, he didn't.
By the same token, Sherry being pregnant isn't a reason to get married, especially if the relationship was on rocky ground. Again, Christopher can be a father without getting into a unhappy union.
If he wants to be with Lorelai if Lorelai would be willing to be with him while he is also there for his new child, that is possible (though after the next episode, I'm not sure Lorelai would have wanted to try that). I mean, you don't have to be married to a person to support them through a pregnancy. People who adopt can form a relationship with the birth mother. Sherry and Chrstopher could have worked out a friendship. Maybe he and Lorelai cool it until after the baby is born, maybe they just date. Sherry could date whoever she wanted at this time. Then they figure out how the parenting thing will work. Is it more complicated? Yeah, but, in my opinion, it's better than being unhappy because you married someone you didn't love. Why raise a kid in an environment like that? Seperate and happy parents are better role models than together and miserable parents, in my view.
Also Richard and Emily arguing in front of Lorelai while also trashing her when she is clearly upset... Well, I have to say that Richard is making Emily look better and better lately.
I really loved Lorelai and Luke's make up. I like that even when patching up a snit she feels comfortable talking about her feelings with him. I like the fact that in addition to being so clearly, yet obliviously in love, they make good friends to each other.
Speaking of Lorelai being in love with Luke. That dream? Adorable!
And now we have the start of what I'm going to call "The Rebranding of Dean"
This happens sometimes on shows when a character is, by all evidence shown to the audience, an asshole. However, the writers not wanting to face up to the fact that they have spent years crafting a character the audience wants to shoot out of a cannon, have other characters insist that they are great in the hopes that the audience will forget that they're a twatwaffle.
Rory has feelings for Jess, but she's still with Dean. This is wrong, she should absolutely cut him loose. But Lorelai sings Deans praises, yet again.
Does Lorelai want to adopt Dean? There are times she seems to like him more than she does Rory!
She says he's been caring and patient. I'll give you caring, in a helicopter type of way, but patient??
When was he patient? When he flipped out over a picknick basket? When he sulked about Rory wanting a night alone? When he called her a dozen times while she was at school? When he was jealous over a school play?
Oh I know when he showed epic patience! When he dumped her because she didn't say I love you when he wanted her to! Of course! So patient, he should be a kindergarten teacher, I tell you!
Arrrg!
Anyway. The best part of the episode, for me was Sookie trying to change things around the house for Jackson. I love it because Sookie reminds me of the anxiety voice in my head. I have said that my brain can take a minor inconvience from annoying to death in 3.2 seconds. Catastrophic thinking is one of my superpowers, and one that I would absolutely take the X-men cure for.
It is very much like Sookie going from flowers to resentment to an unhappy marriage and no matter what anyone says, that possibly is real. I just want to give her tea and tell her that that goblin in her brain is just loud, not right and that any impulse that tells you to buy a giant bear for your husband is one that is fucking with you and should be ignored.
Episode 2 - Usually I find the Chilton stuff somewhat interesting... Not this time. The whole "Skirt Gate" thing was just dull. So, I'm going to skip it.
Kirk asking Lorelai out was hilarious as was Emily trying to keep a maid. And that levility was needed as the real showcase of the episode, the showdown between Christopher, Lorelai and Rory.
While I agree with Emily that Christopher shouldn't marry Sherry just because she's knocked up, but she really shouldn't have stuck her nose in.
I *loved* the moment when Rory told Christopher off. Rory is right she always understands. She absolutely has the right to not be understanding and let emotion rule. She's 17, she's still a kid in so many ways. Her dad made a promise and he broke it. She has the right to be hurt and angry.
What exactly was Christopher trying to accomplish? He says he's still marrying Sherry but doesn't want things to end with Lorelai? So he wants her to be his mistress? Wants her and Rory to be his "secret family"? What a tool!
Pretty good start to the season considering it starts tying up the loose ends that were left dangling in that mess of a season finale.
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Rory Gilmore Character Analysis
Facts
raised by a single mom
basically abandoned by her father
grew up in a small town who adore her. Functionally like an extended family
huge reader
Family financially struggled when she was little
highly devoted to education
Goal oriented when she is young
Wants to be a journalist and travel
Highly obsessed with media of all kinds, a shared interest with her mother
Somewhat of a wallflower as a teen
attended an elite preparatory school for last three years of high school
Tends to do whatever is asked of her, most common with her grandparents going against her upbringing and mothers lifestyle
deeply competitive with her main Rival in school (Paris)
Excellent in academic settings
Displays a willingness to be in unhealthy relationships with her BF’s
Believes in a strict pattern in her life and rejects changes
Has visceral reactions to rejection, like with Mitchum
Learned to fit in well with an elite culture
Struggled in her work
Analysis:
Rory overall was a combination of natural gifts, communication issues, commitment and a girl who faced very little criticism.
Rory's relationship with her mother Lorelai is the deepest defining connection. Her taste in media and food come from her mom, as well as her struggles to form competent romantic connections. Lorelai instilled an independent identity as well as a fun-loving idea and a love of laughter. Lorelai also shaped Rory by acting as much of a friend as a parental figure, part of this was having trouble ever telling Rory “no”, or that anything she did was wrong.
Rory grew up with a very strong extended family in the form of stars hollow. Mia was a grandmother figure more than Emily when Rory was very young. Sookie acted as an aunt figure to Rory often, was at all the parties, baked the birthday cakes etc. Lane was her very close friend throughout her childhood. Lane appreciated Rory and Lorelai as an escape from her strict home life. Rory was influenced her in musical taste by lane, as well as her seeming to be Rory’s only friend around her age in stars hollow.
Luke was a large part of Rory’s life way before he dated Lorelai, often playing a fatherly role. He consistently made meals, helped with birthdays, giving presents, taking care of Rory when she was ill, fixing up the girls house, being deeply protective and attending her big events. Rory struggled with her lack of a father but seemed to really appreciate luke even going to him when she was struggling during her and her mother’s fight.
The rest of the town: Ms Patty, Babette Dell, Morey Dell, Fran Weston, Bootsy, Gypsy, Taylor Doose, Mrs Kim, Jackson Belleville, Andrew & Kirk Gleason were all very important in Rory’s upbringing teaching her different things, keeping her in books. The town at large loved Rory as a kid and into her adulthood. They all come to birthdays and throw her a bon-voyage party.
Being surrounded by a large extended family in the form of the town gave Rory a kind of cushioned experience with how people treat one another. Even if she wasn't intensely popular at school the town at large prop her up, told her she was wonderful and basically never told her that she was wrong. She was the darling of everyone. Rory was deserving in some senses, she was kind and helped with the town but she struggled to learn how to deal with other people realistically, expecting things to always go well and others not to take advantage of her.
This along with being naturally gifted academically made it very hard for Rory to deal with any rejection, we see this when she isn’t perfect at college and then in extreme form with Mitchum Huntzburger.
Rory’s love life was a mess, Her relationship with Dean was fine enough in the beginning but Rory overlooked the part of that that weren’t healthy. The unhealthy behaviours grew overtime instead of exceeding good parts, this ultimately leading to them having an affair and dean hurting his wife. Her relationship with Jess started off as a kind of forbidden romance against the wishes of society byt their similar inability to express their wants and needs ending up leaving both of them heartbroken. Logan and her relationship was mostly healthy in terms of 3aking each other happy and was the best communication. In slightly less oductive he was also a large part in her embracing the white collar society vs the lifestyle of stars hollow. He also enables worse impulses though doesn't nesscary enforce then.
Rory slid into higher society better than her mother ever did. She was close to her grandparents than might have been healthy they expected a better Lorelai and in many ways, that’s what they got. Rory learned the functions well, attended elite schools and dated a Huntzberger. Rory, in the beginning, so conflicts averse she did as she was told, and then adopted much of that lifestyle by choice later. This society allowed her intellect to continue to be praised as well as her looks and luck of birth.
Rory broke down twice around not living up to her and others expectation. The second time landing her in jail and listless in her purpose. This dates back to her never being told know and perfectionist tendencies.
Inbetween the end and AYTL we see she burned out early and was fine cheating on her boyfriend (who she treats real shitty) by sleeping with an ex who was engaged. She falls back on her most destructive tendencies forgetting that even with her natural gifts she had actually done the work when she was, young.
Overall Rory is generally kind and willing to help others, her lack of communication and relationship skills were often detrimental to her. Her overstated belief in her own raw talent and tendency to deny the obvious made her professional life struggle as well.
ADHD:
RSD
hyperactivity
hyerintrsists
hyperfixating
needs a schedule to function
attempts organization but has trouble sticking to it
outbursts of emotion
rambling
impulsivity often masked my anxiety
difficulty in social settings
strugles to understand her emotions
Bolting
Anxiety:
perfectionist
easily overwhelmed
needs things done in one way
fear of expressing emotions
escapism through books
struggles to define her needs in relationships
can be a pushover especially when she is younger
over organize
easily stressed out
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Logan Huntzberger Character Analysis
Facts:
His father was rarely home, emotionally neglectful and uninvolved
His mother was neglectful and emotionally abusive
Had a large amount of privilege his whole life due to intergenerational wealth and a father and grandfather with well-known business tyes
was expected to be a very specific kind of person. Marry the right person, have a specific kind of job, go to the right school, hang with the right friends and more
bounced around school based on misbehaviour as a teen
Blew off a year of school to sail, and broke a yacht.
Part of the life and death brigade.
Brought Rory into the upper-class social network
Had a system he had for parties, as well as visiting rich people
extremely skilled, writer and a good businessman
has a tendency to slack off, extreme partier
sees breaking the law as something you can just do, as in his experience people always get off
attempted to break away from his father but was unable too
proposed to Rory against his mother's wishes
Often used drinking and recklessness when stressed.
Had a tight group within his social circle who would (and have) jump off a cliff with Logans say so
Cheated on his fiancée Odette with Rory
Analysis:
Logan was a very strong rebel at heart, and wanted to be his own man but struggled to fully pull away from his parents, and that culture. He loved living life as it came and having adventures, he was a deeply emotional person but he struggled to ever express it.
He acted out against his schools' rules as a child/teen, I believe partially because he enjoys those kinds of things as well as purposely pushing back on his parents' plans. There was also probably an aspect of looking for attention that his family failed to give him.
Everyone, even those who weren’t a fan of his admitted he was charming and talented. He has the talent to make everyone fall under his shine. His charm also covered a deep insecurity as well as an underlying anger at a feeling of being stuck in his parents' plans. We see a lot of this come out when people insult him or Rory, as well as Rory receiving attention from other guys.
His entitlement and slight lack of ability to see other points made some people view him as deeply annoying and alienating those who saw the worst of the entitlement. Unlike Lorelai, he feels no need to reject the culture of his childhood of privilege. He really likes messing around on a world scale, he likes never having to sweat any of the small stuff. He was incapable of making the jump Lorelai did when Rory was born (even if she never fully let go of some of her classist views). He wanted his cake and to eat it too so to speak. After leaving his dad job in season 7, he jumps to a silicon valley style job with other trust fund kids.
He hides his insecurity by jumping from thing to thing and partying. He also never had a long-term relationship before Rory. Never even calling anyone his girlfriend before that. His close platonic relationships generally consist of acting ridiculous and irresponsible and they often follow Logan’s lead.
Logan grows a lot learns to be honest with his feelings and let down the wall he built, which I think stems from his parents' disinterest in how he actually felt. We see his growth when he protects Rory from his parents' judgment, calls her his girlfriend, has her move in with him and attends stars hollow events. We also see growth in his rejection of his parents' money in season 7 working to build his own life.
However, there was a major regression at some point between season 7 and AYITL. We see he returned to his father’s ordained life and returns to hiding his emotions from his parents/society as well as maintaining an “acceptable” relationship (Odette). I don’t have enough info to really trace what caused this, as the only factor we see is Rory rejecting him, but I think there were likely more steps in-between.
This act though isn't totally out of character. As I said before he enjoys being able to jet around the world as well as liking to treat those he likes to extravagant events. The consistent friends in his life are fine with riding the waves of their upper-class lifestyle (Colin, Finn & Robert). His sister bucked to some extent by marrying who she liked, but the family ended up being okay as she wasn't the one carrying the Huntzberger line. In AYITL he seems to fall back to acting the way he thinks he should while doing what he wants under the table. It's disappointing but makes some sense. We see a worse version of this in Christopher (worse because Rory and Gigi are affected by Chris)
Alcohol Abuse:
His lifestyle includes alcohol a lot as that’s what’s viewed as socially viable. Most times we see him with friends they are drinking. His drinking is integral to a point in his characters, for example, he and his friends are hungover in their first appearances.
Alcohol is his solution to being sad, being bored and as part of having fun. Alcohol use isn’t necessarily problematic however I believe he takes it to a point of being unhealthy.
One way is Logan causes himself serious injury because of his drinking. He wrecks his Yacht (we don’t know he was injured, but it is extremely destructive behaviour) and then hurts himself during his Life and Death brigade stunt in South America.
We also see he uses alcohol to handle his high-stress times. We see this in season six when he fears that he is falling into his parents' plans. His drinking bothers Rory, and eventually incites the break/break up with Rory because of his behaviour towards her and Jess. We also see this when his business starts to fail. Again it affects his relationship with Rory, as well as making him kind of miserable.
BPD (borderline personality disorder)
Uses sex, partying and alcohol to deal with emptiness and stress
unstable relationships
a tendency for self-destructive behaviours
Struggles to maintain a sense of identity
impulsivity
Struggles to control anger
Highly reactive emotional state
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So, my thoughts on the way a potential Gilmore Girls ending could arise, bar the writers screwing it up again
I’ve thought about this for a while, given that gigantic, ill-advised cliffhanger. At first I wanted new episodes, but then I read a few interviews with the Palladinos that quickly convinced me it probably wasn’t a great idea. I finally convinced myself to go back and watch the last season and a half of the show that I’ve been putting off for a decade, which quickly confirmed for me that . . .we’re really lucky that fate intervened and kept these people from bringing their “vision” to the screen ten years ago.
That said, regardless of what actually happens with a possible follow-up, I think the revival laid out a pretty clear scenario of how things would go.
One thing this show has never been very good at depicting is functioning blended families and/or co parenting scenarios as most people understand them. Rory grew up without a father primarily because Christopher refused to participate in her life unless that participation was tied to Lorelai as a romantic interest, despite the fact that Lorelai mostly encouraged him to take a more active role at every possible opportunity. By the time they conduct their ill-fated marriage experiment twenty-two years in, Rory is extremely skeptical about them getting involved, as any grown child of long-estranged parents should be. She knows it’s going to be a disaster and it is. We see the damage afterwards: it’s clear in the revival that Rory and Christopher are reluctant to make any attempts to form a relationship on their own terms without Lorelai’s involvement. It’s apparent that Lorelai has drawn boundaries when it comes to him and that Christopher respects them. In turn, Rory gravitates to her mother and the guy who always loved both of them unconditionally and acted as her surrogate father when her own couldn’t bother to make the effort. Christopher doesn’t try for anything better and when asked for a reason why, he chooses to blame it on Lorelai, even though the situation has long been out of her hands.
The show did a little better when it came to Luke and his various offspring. Luke is always there to support Rory, regardless of his relationship with her mother: he provides the unexpected parental influence Jess lacks from his own parents, and we see that they are still close even after Jess reconciles with his mom: he really fights to be included in April’s life, even after extreme pushback from her mother, and by the end of the series we see that he’s actually able to stand his ground and fight her when necessary. Of course when it came to integrating April into the other parts of his life, Luke failed disastrously, and we can see that even ten years after he and Lorelai put the pieces back together, the family’s still not as blended as it ought to be. Still, because he’s the better man in every way (duh) he’s the one that really tries under these circumstances, even when the costs are significant.
So given that, we then come to the matter of . . . Logan Huntzberger and his impending fatherhood.
The writers seems intent on having Rory repeat the same patterns that her mother did: single motherhood after being impregnated by a charming, rich, irresponsible playboy who resembles her charming, rich, irresponsible father, while she eventually settles down with the sweet, supportive friend who was always there for her and helps her raise her child . . . just like her surrogate dad/eventual stepdad did for her mother (and conveniently, this friend was partially raised by her stepdad and seems to have inherited most of his good qualities). I don’t have any problems with this ending. I think Jess and Rory are a better match at this point in the story than Logan and Rory are. But what if this time, the toxic love triangle could end up in a way where it works out for everyone involved?
Logan isn’t exactly Christopher. He’s far more supportive of Rory than Christopher ever was of Lorelai: we’ve seen him show and do the right thing on multiple occasions. He’s also two decades older than Christopher was at the start of his unexpected parenthood. On the other hand, he has a fiance and a career and an entire life he’ll have to sacrifice if he’s going to live up to his responsibilities, regardless of whether he tries to reconcile with Rory or not. Who does he become in this scenario? Is he Christopher, who mostly can’t be bothered to make any attempt at fatherhood on his own unless Lorelai is attached to it, or is he Luke, the guy who is willing to sacrifice almost everything in order to be a dad?
Maybe there’s a middle ground, and everything doesn’t have to be so dramatic.
I think Logan’s going to have to ditch the fiance/career/dynasty if he chooses to be involved with this kid, no matter what. But I don’t see Rory keeping it from him. It might take some prodding from Luke, but she will do the right thing and let him know. She knows from that conversation with her dad that it was the right thing for her mother to raise her on her own, and that she provided Rory with lots of people who loved her to replace what she didn’t have in a traditional family (including a surrogate dad who accepted her as his own). She knows she can do the same thing, if she has to. Because Rory isn’t exactly her mother, either: she doesn’t have the drive for independence that caused Lorelai to run away from an unhappy childhood. Rory doesn’t need to run away from her parents: they’re going to be there to support her, and maybe there’s a place for Logan in that life, whether he ends up with Rory or not.
The thing is that I don’t think Logan is right for Rory anymore, even putting aside all the shifty stuff he was involved in in the revival. I actually thought he was the best choice for her at the end of the original series, but I think the revival made clear that the globe-trotting part of her life is over, and no matter what happens with this kid, that’s not going to change. It seems to me that Jess the hardworking, loyal hipster who works in publishing is more of a good fit for the single mom who writes novels. It seemed to me that the reason we saw so little of Jess is that he was clearly designated as the ideal mate who will be there for Rory when it counts, while Logan’s the fantasy that’s never really going to be able to fit in her life.
In my wildly optimistic mind that will likely not be reflected in the actual show, Logan might not be right for Rory, but he can still have an active role in his child’s life. He can still be part of Rory’s life, even if she and Jess are together. This kid won’t grow up estranged from its grandparents, like Rory had to: they’ll always be an important part of its life, because Rory will bond with Luke and Lorelai over the experience, and they’ll become the blended family they never quite were up to this point. They may be the grandparents now, but all the angst and estrangement isn’t a part of it this time.
Or maybe Logan is willing to reject the life his parents set up for him, and things can actually work out between him and Rory. Jess is officially family now, and he’ll always be supportive of her and whatever she’s doing in life. There will always be a place for him there, too. I may be #TeamJess, but I could see it going the other way, too.
In my head, it can all work out and everyone learns to deal with each other.
It probably won’t work out that way on screen, so let’s not leave things to chance.
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