#agenor

[sarafangirlart]

Going through the Wrath of the Titans Wikipedia page is so funny bc call me delulu but it really feels like whoever was writing it was salty af.

[ruadireita]

A CULPA É DA FILOMENA

O caso da capivara Filomena ganhou os holofotes do país inteiro na semana passada. Filó caiu na boca do povo, para azar da diretoria do IBAMA. Eu gosto quando a população fala grosso com o Estado. O incidente serviu para lançar luz à incômoda verdade: o Estado age de modo a justificar a própria existência, e o fará, invariavelmente, da maneira menos arriscada e trabalhosa possível. O…

[jcplana]

Imaginen … la cultura de la violación. CLXII.

En la imagen que están compartiendo, se observa un toro blanco de lunar cornamenta posando la palma de su mano izquierda sobre la cadera de la hija de Agenor y Telefasa.  Bueno, acaso el toro sea el propietario de una empresa y una empleada la doncella. Acaso tendría que haber usado pezuña y no palma y mano. Y acaso estaba claro y estoy infravalorando la perspicacia de la lectora o del…

[readyforbooks]

Pressed so tight against him, drowning in the cedar scent of his skin... She could feel the control trickling from her grip as her attempts to escape weakened.

—Lisette Marshall, Heart of Silk and Shadows

[blogoslibertarios]

URGENTE: Agenor e a Deputada Joana Darc acabaram de chegar no Ibama e estão aguardando a liberação da Filó; VEJA VÍDEO

A conta do Twitter da Choquei divulgou, há alguns minutos, que a Deputada Joana Darc, que protocolou um pedido de devolução da capivara Filó, e Agenor Tupinambá, cuidador de Filó, acabaram de chegar a sede do IBAMA e estão aguardando a liberação do animal. Pelo instagram, a Deputada publicou um vídeo informando que o Agenor agora é o guardião oficial de Filó e que ela voltaria para sua…

[sistemabibliotecariomilano]

Primavera di libri

Torniamo a suggerirvi nuove letture e film “raccomandati” dai vostri bibliotecari di fiducia.

Un autentico caso letterario l’inedito di Gabriel García Márquez Ci vediamo in agosto, che, come narra la leggenda a proposito dell’Eneide di Virgilio, l’autore avrebbe voluto distruggere: “un omaggio alla femminilità, una storia di libertà e di desiderio che non si sopisce con l’età e nemmeno con l’amore coniugale”. I figli hanno consentito la pubblicazione di questo breve romanzo, che esce in contemporanea in tutti i paesi e ci delizia come una sorpresa inaspettata, nonostante la volontà del suo artefice, forse troppo esigente con sé stesso.

Tutt’altro che deprimente, Piccoli suicidi tra amici di Arto Paasilinna è ormai diventato un classico. Scritto con stile quasi cronachistico, la sua apparente freddezza (che peraltro ben si addice alle gelide lande della Finlandia da cui provengono i personaggi del libro) non fa che accrescere l’ironia, magari un po’ macabra, di cui è pervaso. “… ogni giorno è per ciascuno sempre il primo della vita che gli resta da vivere, anche se siamo troppo occupati per rendercene conto” è la sintesi filosofica di un romanzo divertente, originale, che si risolve in un inno non banale alla vita, alla solidarietà, all’amicizia. Un vero toccasana “per tempi agitati”, citando Mauro Bonazzi, come sono quelli in cui ci troviamo a vivere. Dalla postfazione di Diego Marani: “Una delle cose più belle dei romanzi di Paasilinna è che dopo il tumulto, il fragore e le spericolate rincorse tutto si risolve delicatamente, come una risata di cui resta solo il gioioso ricordo, nell’acqua increspata d’un lago, nel vento della sera, nell’odore di foraggio appena tagliato. … In questo libro la grande beffata è la morte”.

Ambientato a Bologna durante le festività natalizie tra la fine del 1953 e l’inizio del ’54, Intrigo italiano di Carlo Lucarelli ci ripropone la compagnia del commissario De Luca, sempre ombroso, inappetente e drogato di caffeina. Lo accompagna un giovane poliziotto che lo introduce negli ambienti musicali degli amanti del jazz, di cui era appassionato un noto professore morto in circostanze non chiare. Ma il mistero si infittisce quando anche la vedova viene trovata uccisa e De Luca stesso è controllato dai Servizi Segreti. Non siamo più in tempo di guerra mondiale, ma di guerra fredda e anche i migliori si devono aggiornare. Un giallo di classe, con una ricostruzione storica sempre molto accurata. È del 2022 il ritorno del commissario Marino, segretamente ma attivamente antifascista, in Bell’abissina, dopo l’esordio del 1993 con Indagine non autorizzata, quando era ancora soltanto ispettore. Si tratta di un cold case soltanto apparente, perché la serie di delitti, legati da somiglianze via via sempre più chiare, si protrae dal passato al presente pericolosamente minacciato dall’imminente scontro bellico. Marino ha un temperamento diverso da quello di De Luca e si getta anima e corpo in questa indagine che coinvolge corrotti fiancheggiatori del regime. Un incontro, come dice l’autore stesso nei Ringraziamenti, tra la storia, con la s minuscola, frutto di fantasia, e la Storia, quella del secondo conflitto mondiale che Lucarelli conosce molto bene e che ha trattato anche in diverse trasmissioni televisive.

Irresistibile la doppietta di Simenon che vi proponiamo. Gli altri, inedito in Italia fino alla pubblicazione di Adelphi del 2023, è scritto in forma di diario-confessione e ci guida con il suo ritmo irresistibile tra i meandri di un suggestivo castello francese, che racchiude, ça va sans dire, una morte misteriosa, una giovane e affascinante castellana, nonché un burbero e attempato maggiordomo, sospettosamente depositario di ogni segreto… Come sempre, con pochi abili tratti l’autore descrive una serie di personaggi che non potrebbero essere fra loro più diversi, anche se appartenenti alla stessa famiglia: la sua penna riesce a far sembrare del tutto naturali e accettabili legami apparentemente inconciliabili e al limite della moralità. Il finale è riservato all’apertura del testamento: a chi andrà la cospicua eredità del vecchio Antoine Huet? Ma soprattutto: in che modo la ricchezza influirà sulla vita e le abitudini dei protagonisti? A voi il piacere di scoprirlo. Il romanzo La prigione inizia ex abrupto con un misterioso omicidio, su cui la polizia indaga. Ma duplice è la ricerca intrapresa dall’autore: da una parte il movente del delitto, dall’altra la psicologia del protagonista, costretto a scavare nella sua vita per scoprire su sé stesso e sulle persone che gli erano più intimamente vicine segreti che ignorava o che, più probabilmente, cercava di rimuovere per superficialità, paura o inadeguatezza. Così la prigione diventa una metafora per descrivere una vita fasulla che implode in un solo istante di un giorno d’autunno. Al di là del caso limite rappresentato dal fatto di sangue e delle inevitabili differenze di carattere, è talmente accurata l’analisi psicologica che ogni lettore potrebbe ritrovare qualcosa di sé nell’indole del protagonista e comprendere i suoi atti apparentemente privi di logica. Simenon, come sempre, con ritmo inesorabile e accanito vaglio introspettivo ci conduce all’unica soluzione possibile.

Furio Scarpelli e Agenore Incrocci hanno firmato, sotto la nota sigla di Age&Scarpelli, “le più memorabili sceneggiature dell’epoca d’oro del cinema italiano”, da Totò le Mokò di Bragaglia, a La banda degli onesti di Mastrocinque, C’eravamo tanto amati di Scola, I soliti ignoti, L’armata Brancaleone e La Grande guerra di Monicelli, per citarne solo una minima parte. Tra gli inediti di Scarpelli che Sellerio sta ripubblicando (è del 2019 Amori nel fragore della metropoli) vi consigliamo Si ricorda di me, signor tenente?, romanzo che introduce i protagonisti alternando, con la tecnica del flash back, la narrazione contemporanea al memoriale di guerra. Lo scavo nel complesso passato del personaggio principale porterà alla luce gravi traumi, profondi e rimossi sensi di colpa. Ma chi è lo sgangherato seccatore che apostrofa con la domanda del titolo il vecchio Giulio, tranquillo pensionato che passeggia per le vie della Milano del 1999? Un truffatore, un commilitone o un rigurgito della sua coscienza addormentata? Si legge piacevolmente tutto d’un fiato.

Per una lettura diversa dal solito vi proponiamo Nightmare Alley, La fiera delle illusioni di William Lindsay Gresham, “una tipica storia noir”, da cui sono stati tratti ben due film: un classico con il fascinoso Tyrone Power in una veste per lui inedita e il recentissimo remake di Guillermo Del Toro con Bradley Cooper, Cate Blanchett, Willem Dafoe. Diviso in due parti (con un finale ad anello): da un lato il fantastico, bizzarro, grottesco mondo del circo, con i suoi misteri e le sue crudeltà; dall’altra quello dell’alta borghesia, non meno pericoloso. In sintesi, il libro e i due film sono “Tre facce della stessa storia che presentano tutte letture degne di essere lette e viste per una storia che potrebbe benissimo svolgersi anche al giorno d’oggi. I prestigiatori, che siano o meno appassionati di mentalismo/spiritismo, vi troveranno molti spunti interessanti.”

Un prezioso suggerimento dal passato: se vi fosse sfuggito, potete rimediare cogliendo dai nostri scaffali Il peso falso di Joseph Roth. Un autentico gioiello che mischia allo stile formulare dei poemi omerici, un’autentica passione d’amore e una finissima riflessione sull’essere umano, dominato dai suoi difetti, quasi deterministicamente volto verso il male, incapace di sfuggire alla tentazione del peccato, anche quando è mosso dalle migliori intenzioni. I temi sono quelli consueti della poetica di Roth, e spesso tornano anche gli stessi personaggi, che inevitabilmente cadono nella colpa: il tutto senza pessimismo né amarezza, anzi forse con una leggera sfumatura di fatalistica ironia.

Come una diabolica matrioska le vicende biografiche dell’autore, Herbert Clyde Lewis, giornalista e scrittore americano, nato a New York da ebrei russi emigrati, si ripercuotono sul protagonista del romanzo per poi accanirsi inspiegabilmente sulle vicissitudini editoriali dell’opera che vi vogliamo consigliare, Gentiluomo in mare. Sì, perché come l’autore ebbe una vita difficile, nonostante gli incessanti sforzi profusi per affermarsi e l’indubbio talento, così il protagonista di questo delizioso romanzo breve è vittima di “una sorte bizzarra e cattiva”, per citare la splendida canzone di Lauzi-Conte, e infine la novella fu ingiustamente ignorata alla sua prima pubblicazione nel 1937 per essere poi “ripescata” (è proprio il caso di dirlo) dall’abisso dei libri dimenticati per la prima volta in Argentina nel 2010: da quel momento il successo, più che meritato anche se postumo, divenne planetario. Davvero “una perlita”, come fu definito nella recensione argentina.

[local-meme-lord]

Mouse family beloved

I'm personally the fighter

I just think he's neat k??

[mostspecialgirl]

6M!!!

i was too lazy to give omecroth a full body (maybe i’ll do it later?) but here’s the cute little standalone drawings

[luxmaeastra]

Airmed's eyes flashed and he stepped toward Agenor.

"I don't care the cost, I don't care if she'd hate it. I don't care if I break every sacred vow I made for this. She was good, she was light, she was life - she was kind Agenor! Why was she alone?! Why was she the one to die?!"

Airmed picked up his sword, he swallowed. He'd told himself he wouldn't take up after the war. They'd lost so much following Nismera into that blind fate war.

"I will avenge her singlehandedly if I must. I will have this world run red if that's what's needed."

No one knew the pure pain that he saw in his oldest friend, he could see it in the way he looked...He heard it within his voice. His stomach churned, his eyes stung for the loss of his sister.

But it wouldn't bring it back, emotions would not reverse any of this. He had people who looked to him, he had people who couldn't have him crumble.

"You know you will always have my backing Airmed," he moved forward and reached out his hand. "But we have to be thoughtful about this, think about our steps. Her death can't be in vein."

[allthebrazilianpolitics]

The capybara influencer revolt

A wildlife influencer’s famous capybara was confiscated by Brazilian authorities. A mass movement ensued.

“Wild animals are not pets,” posted Brazil’s environmental watchdog, Ibama, on social media after what appeared to be a standard confiscation. This, however, was not just any wild animal. On April 27, Ibama had taken Filó — a capybara from the Brazilian Amazon — from wildlife influencer Agenor Tupinambá.

The development led to an uproar on social media. Tupinambá’s following on Instagram and TikTok blew up as supporters rallied to the cause of #FreeFiló. The influencer’s Instagram followers have grown from 10,000 at the end of last year to 2.2 million now; his TikTok following has nearly doubled to 1.9 million. 

“I am deeply sorry for what is happening,” Tupinambá said in a viral post. “Only I know the pain I am feeling. I chose to be a guardian, not a criminal.” Ibama and its supporters, however, do not think this was a choice the influencer should have been allowed to make in the first place.

Tupinambá first started posting Amazonian wildlife content in 2019, while studying to be an agronomic engineer.Filó and Tupinambá became minor celebrities after posts showing them swimming, snuggling, and showering together became popular. 

The duo soon drew Ibama’s attention. The environmental regulator filed a lawsuit against Tupinambá on April 19, followed by the confiscation of the capybara just over a week later. Ibama accused Tupinambá of mistreating the capybara as well as the other animals in his wildlife collection, also holding him responsible for the death of a sloth he had previously adopted. Ibama argued that inadequate nutrition had led to the sloth’s demise.

The outcry against the decision to take Filó from Tupinambá spread quickly.

Continue reading.

[vivendonostalgia]

❤️

[my-name-is-apollo]

Honestly one of the best parts of the iliad.

Ares: *losing as usual, nothing new*

Poseidon: *fondly reminiscing his companionship with Apollo when they both worked as slaves while also challenging him to a fight just because*

Apollo: nahhhhh *insert profound and smart quote about the nature of humanity*

Artemis: you coward, f@#king b#&@ p<$$y

Apollo: *ignores the hell out of her* whatever I should get back to the war

Artemis: *gets smacked by Hera and ends up crying and complaining about it*

Hermes: I'm not crazy enough to fight someone who was crazy enough to sleep with Zeus ✌️

Obsessed with BkXXI:383-525 of the iliad actually. This is after Achilles fights a river (and LOSES) before getting rescued by some gods. Then up on Olympus we have a brief little intermission. The girls are fighting

Ares challenges Athena, calling her a gadfly and saying she'll pay for enabling Diomedes stabbing him a few books back. He goes and stabs her shield, and she steps back and knocks him out with a stone. Then she laughs and gloats over his vaguely unconscious body, laughing over how his mom isn't even on his side. Youch. If I were ares I'd just die tbh

THEN. WHILE SHE ISN'T LOOKING. Aphrodite helps ares up and they try to sneak off, but Hera snitches on them both and sics Athena on them. That's so sad actually. Imagine your own mom sending her stepdaughter to body you and your girlfriend. Athena strikes Aphrodite and both her and ares fall to a heap on the ground. Athena continues gloating.

Poseidon sees this and feels left out somehow. My guy turns to his nephew and tries to goad him into fighting, even offering Apollo the first punch because he's older and more experienced. How shameful would it be to go back home without fighting with your nephew. Truly a disgrace. He's me fr. the girls are fighting and so must i. Apollo, smartly, declines this, saying that he'd be insane to fight his uncle over some mortals' quarrel.

And then Artemis calls him a pussy. Calls him spineless. Bitch why are you carrying a bow if you won't even fight. Reveals that he's boasted about beating Poseidon before. This is so sad, this is worse than my family reunions. Apollo doesn't respond but HERA on the other hand.

SHE TAKES ARTEMIS' BOW AND QUIVER AND BEATS HER UP WITH IT?? JUST ABSOLUTELY WHALES ON HER UNTIL SHE STARTS SOBBING AND RUNS AWAY? She leaves her weapons behind, and Hermes sees this. He tells Artemis' mother Leto that he has no quarrel with her, not wanting to get in trouble with Zeus. He offers to let her say that she bested him in combat and she takes her daughter's weapons and leaves to go after Artemis.

Then Artemis goes running to daddy and cries at his lap. Zeus hugs her (and I will say this time and time again. That man is a girl dad it is so funny. He will spit in ares' face and then laugh at Athena's jokes) and asks what's wrong. Artemis says Hera is to blame

Obsessed with "Why, it's as if they had caught you out in public doing something wrong..."

It's giving "is there something you forgot to tell me?"

All the rest of the gods then sulk back home to Olympus, all but Apollo, who flies back to troy to make sure Achilles isn't causing Too Much damage which is hilarious because that man was on the verge of tears getting his ass beat by a river a few lines back

[katerinaaqu]

helloooo so im not a fan of greek mythology or classics or anything like that, but something about the suitors of penelope caught my eye so i just wanted to ask if there are any other suitors named in the odyssey that arent antinous, eurymachus or amphinomus? (i forgot how to spell the last guys name)

+ and if youre willing enough, did any of them have characters / personalities and maybe even the slightest bits of stories of their own, outside of the whole yknow. "trying to make penelope marry and kill telemachus" thing? if thats too much though i completely understand, lovely blog!!

I mean it would be great if you were Anon! Hahahaha but that's fair.

Of course there are several names that appear in the Odyssey. Of course the most known ones are Antinous, Eurymachus and Amphinomus but there are several names that appear in the Odyssey as you remember from my post about Antinous where I mention the misconceptions around the Odyssey,

you see the name of Leiodes. Other names rescued are:

Leocritus, Agelaus, Amphimedon, Elatus, Eurynomus, Euryades, Demoptolemus, Peisander, Polybus and Ctesippus.

Unfortunately most of the names of the suitors are not mentioned in the Odyssey however we have other scoliasts and future writers, for example Apollodorous who also makes a list of several other names in his book "Epitome":

From Dulichium came fifty-seven: Amphinomus, Thoas, Demoptolemus, Amphimachus, Euryalus, Paralus, Evenorides, Clytius, Agenor, Eurypylus, Pylaemenes, Acamas, Thersilochus, Hagius, Clymenus, Philodemus, Meneptolemus, Damastor, Bias, Telmius, Polyidus, Astylochus, Schedius, Antigonus, Marpsius, Iphidamas, Argius, Glaucus, Calydoneus, Echion, Lamas, Andraemon, Agerochus, Medon, Agrius, Promus, Ctesius, Acarnan, Cycnus, Pseras, Hellanicus, Periphron, Megasthenes, Thrasymedes, Ormenius, Diopithes, Mecisteus, Antimachus, Ptolemaeus, Lestorides, Nicomachus, Polypoetes, and Ceraus.

And from Same there came twenty—three: Agelaus, Pisander, Elatus, Ctesippus, Hippodochus, Eurystratus, Archemolus, Ithacus, Pisenor, Hyperenor, Pheroetes, Antisthenes, Cerberus, Perimedes, Cynnus, Thriasus, Eteoneus, Clytius, Prothous, Lycaethus, Eumelus, Itanus, Lyammus.

And from Zacynthos came forty—four: Eurylochus, Laomedes, Molebus, Phrenius, Indius, Minis, Liocritus, Pronomus, Nisas, Daemon, Archestratus, Hippomachus, Euryalus, Periallus, Evenorides, Clytius, Agenor, Polybus, Polydorus, Thadytius, Stratius, Phrenius, Indius, Daesenor, Laomedon, Laodicus, Halius, Magnes, Oloetrochus, Barthas, Theophron, Nissaeus, Alcarops, Periclymenus, Antenor, Pellas, Celtus, Periphus, Ormenus, Polybus and Andromedes.

And from Ithaca itself the suitors were twelve, to wit: Antinous, Pronous, Liodes, Eurynomus, Amphimachus, Amphialus, Promachus, Amphimedon, Aristratus, Helenus, Dulicheus, and Ctesippus.

However one must bear in mind that all these names do not appear in the Odyssey so it is unclear whether Apollodorous has mentioned these names out of other sources or if he came up with a few of them himself! Hahaha especially since Apollodorous seems to be raising the number of the suitors from the standard 108 to much more than that!

But yeah that is food for thought as well even if Apollodorous lived several centuries after Homer.

As for the last part yes of course there seems to be several of character development to the suitors that at least are named in the Odyssey for as you see from the post that I made,

Antinous is the leader of the suitors in one way. He is as you see the most outspoken and one of the most arrogant ones and the way I read the passages of his it seems almost as if he is constantly intoxicated. I find it no coincidence that he died when he was ready to get a drink! I also love it, as I mentioned to another post of mine, how his name seems to mean "against all reason" aka "madman"

Eurymachus strikes me as the guy who is the "rich brat" in one way if I am allowed the comparison. He seems to be the richest of them all and he seems to be the one Icarius prefers the most for his future son-in-law because his own wedding gifts were the richest. Eurymachus seems to be a smooth talker and he often gets in the middle between Antinous and Penelope (for example Penelope goes on a full attack on Antinous accusing him and Eurymachus gets in the middle) but in a more slithering way, if that makes any sense. He is also the one who throws Antinous under the buss when he sees Odysseus is up for the kill to them all. He says that Antinous who is just killed was the root of all evil in there and that Odysseus needs to do nothing more. He also suggests they would pay back what they ate. He strikes me as the rich kid that thinks he can solve stuff with money. Eand wine .urymachus also seems to be confident with himself because he seems to have a close relationship with Odysseus and the royal family or at least his family does since Eurymachus mentions how Odysseus used to place him on his knees when he was a child, feeding him roasted meat and wine

Both Eurymachus and Antinous seem to be though capable athletes (they were the best at throwing the javelin and the discus while they were playing together) and like Antinous he seems to have knowledge on weapons such as bows and arrows.

Amphinomus is more of a diplomat material. In fact Homer states that out of all the suitors Penelope liked him the most because he was a smooth talker and he seemed gentle. In fact Amphinomus prevented the suitors from killing Telemachus TWICE in the Odyssey. He didn't deny the suggestion of the kill per se (so that he wouldn't lose the support of the other suitors) but he said that they need to first make sure that the killing was agreeable to the gods as well (in a way he also seems to try and prevent the killing altogether). He said that if gods wanted that then he would kill Telemachus himself but if they do not it is a sin and it shouldn't be followed. He is also one of those who encourages the others to stop mistreating Odysseus (disguised as a beggar) and encourages them to let Telemachus treat him as his guest given that this is the right thing to do. It seems that even Odysseus noticed he has kindness in him for he is the only suitor he actually doesn't only test in order to save him from doom but he ACTUALLY warns him to escape doom but Amphinomus doesn't heed the warning and remains. He also seems to be the suitor that at the end of the day didn't try to harm Odysseus out of hatred but he ran towards him with his sword trying to get him out of the way towards the exit so basically he tried to run away. Telemachus killed him with a spear through the back (his first kill for that day) and again I find it interesting and ironic that his name means "between two rules/shares" because he seems to be in a limbo state between the suitors and Telemachus and in the end he dies between two rulers (Odysseus and Telemachus). Amphinomus strikes me for a good guy that ended up with bad companies. In one way he seems to be in a way reflecting Odysseus too since he does try to persuade others with his words and navigate his way through stuff (plus the fact that Penelope liked him more than the others because of the way he speaks with logic AND Odysseus seeing the potential in him and actively trying even more to save him compared to others).

Leiodes was also called "soothsayer". It was said that he was one of those who was head over the heels in love with Penelope and he genuinely wanted to win her hand. He seemed to be a gentle guy or at least gentler than the rest who really wanted to earn Penelope. He was also the first to protest against bending the bow, realizing the impossible of the task thus earning the angry reaction of Antinous (see at my post that I link). It is also arguably the most shameful out of the killings Odysseus performed given that Leiodes managed to clasp Odysseus's knees begging for his life and also saying that he never bothered or bedded any of his slave girls, according to the customs of employing ritual, Odysseus couldn't refuse him the favor and he should normally spare him his life as he requested (in this case this doesn't apply classically given how Athena was there encouraging). Odysseus though was furious for Leiodes's notion to marry Penelope and he cut off his head.

Leocrtitus strikes me as someone who thinks too high of himself. His name appears technically once in the Odyssey and that is when he fights against Mentor (Athena in disguise) and claims that even if Odysseus himself were to show up in the palace, Penelope would have no joy upon seeing him because they would more or less kill him. Leocritus seems more like the guy that boasts a lot from that line or that is certain of himself when things are certain but only when he is certain that nothing would go wrong. He speaks with certainty they can take Odysseus when he is most certain that Odysseus would never show up because he thinks he is dead.

Agelaus seems to be similar to Amphinomus here for he too seems to have some humanity inside him (although arguably one can also say that he is pretending of that he has his reasons behind it) since he also speaks to the suitors and advises them to stop tormenting the stranger (Odysseus in disguise) or stop bothering the slave girls in the hall (most likely the women who were unwilling to serve the suitors) and he even said that "he hoped Odysseus would come back but that doesn't seem likely" (the latter seems to be more a pretend wish than anything but that is up for interpretation) but he keeps trying to sooth-talk Telemachus to tell his mother to choose the one that brought her the best gifts to which Telemachus says that he "doesn't want to force her and that he hopes the day will never come". Agelaus also strikes me for a very calm fellow for even in the chaos of battle after Antinous, Eurymachus and Amphinomos are dead Agelaus still calls for Melanthius and makes the assumption that Odysseus doesn't have enough shafts for them all and that they should sound the alarm or something and try to find their way out and apparently he was right because Telemachus accidentally left the door to the weaponry open so Melanthius came back holding some weapons for some of the suitors. So yeah that too seems like a great thing not mentioned enough. Also even amidst the chaos he tries to find allies for he turns to Mentor (Athena in disguise) and tries to persuade him not to be swayed by Odysseus's words unknown to him that he is speaking to Athena and when he sees that "Mentor" is not helping, he is showing leading skills and he gathers around the best remaining of the suitors to organize themselves and fight back. The latter gives a meaning to his name as well given how Agelaus means "leader of people"

Eurynomus has no lines in the Odyssey but I find it interesting that Homer decided to share with us that Eurynomus is one of 4 brothers out of whom one of them accompanied Odyssus to the arduous trip, Antiphus, and he was in fact one of his comrades that died in the hands of Polyphemus and in fact he was the last to be eaten by him so Eurynomus for me signifies the visual representation of the people who are left behind and possibly their complicated psychology. His father Aegyptius who was mourning for the death of his son (for he had stopped hoping to see him again) and the other two brothers that helped his father at the farm. Somehow makes me wonder was Eurynomus TOO EAGER to make his father proud? Perhaps he stopped caring? Did he have any recollections of his own brother or not? How was his relationship with his other brothers? Was he, if I may make a random comparison, an "edgy teenager" who just didn't care anymore? And arguably Homer also names him as "one of the best" of the suitors so that shows he did have plenty of potential. Who knows indeed

Amphimedon and Demoptolemus are also not having any lines and are mentioned once and twice respectably in the Odyssey but both were some of those that Homer names "the best" that Agelaus brings close to him again showing their potential.

Euryades is only mentioned when Telemachus kills him so not much is known on him.

Same goes with Elatus who is also mentioned only when he is killed by Eumaeus and nothing else is very much known of him

Peisander is mentioned during the wedding gifts process when Agelaus gathers him close to him as well (again one of those that were praised for their potential) and when he is killed by Philoetius.

Polybus now seems to be mentioned as "wise" but I also see the name being associated as the father of Eurymachus more often. There is only mentions of Polybus as a suitor and that is when Agelaus is gathering around him the best he can find in chaos and when he is killed by Eumaeus. Most likely we talk about two different people that just share the same name. I don't think both father AND son are competing for the hand of Penelope unless Polybus was there just to make sure that Penelope would marry in their family but that doesn't seem likely to me given how Eurymachus gives gifts that are said to be the best so if his father was also there I would expect them to have similar gifts and that Icarius might as well approve of the father as the husband to his daughter plus the fact that the suitors are named as young makes me doubt that Polybus the father of Eurymachus and Polubus the suitor are the same person. But here's some food for thought!

Ctesippus is the one that is mentioned from moment 1 that he has "lawlessness in his heart" so he seems like the most violent or potentially viscous of them all. He stands up and says that he wants to offer a "guest gift" to the "stranger" (Odysseus in disguise) one of the slave girls that belong to Odysseus. He even proceeds on taking an ox's hoof from his plate and throw it to Odysseus but Odysseus dodges it. The move causes the reaction of Telemachus and his reaction also brings forth Agelaus who also says to the suitors to stop abusing the stranger. Ctesippus doesn's seem to be a very potent spearman for he manages to graze the shoulder of Eumaeus in the battle but his spear was deflected by the swineherd's shield so either he is not as good in battle or he was drunk or panicking for he lost his weapon like that.

I hope that helps a little at a small interpretation/analysis on the suitors of Penelope as presented in the Odyssey plus an extra list of Apollodorous even if I do not fully allign with it, I just placed it here for the sakes of the encyclopedic knowledge! Hehehehe!

But thanks for the question Anon because it is important to remember how complicated all the homeric characters are! Even those that are supposed to appear brutes, they have also secret sides that Homer did let us known they existed!

Also yay this is my 5000th post!! 🥳 🎉 🪅 🎊

I deeply apologize if I forget someone and I shall elaborate more to reblogs and/or comments if there is one that I missed or forgotten etc.

[rcbertleckie]

the pacific · part nine — for @agenors

[dilfaeneas]

Indulgent Helenus drawing. Love him so much. Also hands are such a big part of his lore and the treatment of captured archers throughout history. His hands are completely knacked. No clue how to begin to illustrate how Menelaus destroyed his hand in the iliad tho.

On this Menelaus was grieved, and made menacingly towards Helenus, brandishing his spear; but Helenus drew his bow, and the two attacked one another at one and the same moment, the one with his spear, and the other with his bow and arrow. The son of Priam hit the breastplate of Menelaus’s corslet, but the arrow glanced from off it. As black beans or pulse come pattering down on to a threshing-floor from the broad winnowing-shovel, blown by shrill winds and shaken by the shovel—even so did the arrow glance off and recoil from the shield of Menelaus, who in his turn wounded the hand with which Helenus carried his bow; the spear went right through his hand and stuck in the bow itself, so that to his life he retreated under cover of his men, with his hand dragging by his side—for the spear weighed it down till Agenor drew it out and bound the hand carefully up in a woollen sling which his esquire had with him.

- Book 13

https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/2199/pg2199-images.html

Like a through and through injury to the hand to the point that the bow is damaged. The arm at the least is broken and probably the bones in the hand as well. Spears also aren't small and it goes through his hand. Like yikes

[sillypuppetmeister]

top 5 men you want to kiss?

I’m not gay why would I-

Eurymachus

Telemachus

Ctesippus

Peisander

Amphinomus

Leiocritus

Amphimedon

Elatus

Agelaus

Demoptolemus

Eurydamas

Eurynomus

Leodes

Euryades

Euryalas

Ctesippus of Ithaca

Ithacus

Polydorus

Helenus (NOT cassandra’s brother. that guy is WEIRD)

Promachus

Damastor (NOT to be confused with Agelaus’ father. although they were born in the same place)

Clymenus (apparently not the son of Helios? i asked him about it and he said that was a different guy. Unfortunate.)

Agenor

Antimachus

Telema-

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sorry what was i doing