#agamenon

[just-an-enby-lemon]

The thing about Palamedes is that based on his overall being genuinally a good person vibe I do think he only endangered Telemachus because he was pretty sure Odysseus was lying. After all he knew Odysseus well enough to draw this conclusion.

Wich does open the idea for my man being completly heartbroken and lowkey hated in a reality where he was actually wrong and Odysseus had fully went mad for reals. No one has a good time at all. Also whatever revenge plan Penelope would have in mind would be worse than Odysseus for sure (although I do think Palamedes would fully be "no I do deserve that one actually" after killing her son in front of her and ending Odysseus whole disnasty to prove a point he didn't even prove).

Bonus points if Ody went mad the only way he would via angering a god and the curse is lifted after he kills his son and Agamemnon fully not reading the room is like "cool that was fixed, let's go to war" while everyone else is in shock.

[cocopopsluvr333]

always an angel, never a god

[castilestateofmind]

“While so other magnificent works have disappeared, Homer’s works, even though they were no longer supported by any Church or institution, have come to us intact across the centuries and as many upheavals, never ceasing to fascinate and inspire minds, great and small, generation after generation.

Because these sacred poems are the Greek expression of an heritage common to all our European (or Boreans) ancestors, be they Celtic, Germanic, Slavic or Latin”.

- Dominique Venner.

[strawbrrydior]

Agamemnon is so insecure he j wants to have everything Achilles has BcUZ he’s jealous and I don’t like him

[allisongreenlee]

The Iliad: A Raw and Powerful Depiction of the Heroism and Tragedy of War

Homer’s Iliad is a classic epic that depicts the glory and tragedy of war through the heroism of its characters. The poem revolves around the Trojan War between the Greeks and Trojans, and it portrays the devastating effects of war on both sides. On the one hand, the Iliad glorifies the heroism and bravery of the warriors involved in the conflict. The poem is known for its portrayal of heroic…

[sandwich2451]

for some reason I've started the epic quest to try translating the Iliad as so many have done before me (I've translated 20 lines which is a lot with only a dictionary but very little in the long run)

but page 1 i saw a funny epitheton ornans in chriseis's speech. he says:

"sons of atreus and other greeks with good greaves..." (greave = shin armor)

like, how stupidly funny is that? bro is coming to free his daughter but nooo he must mention the shin armor of the greeks first. peak flattery. I will be using this

I'll be making more posts about the weird shit i find in translation but i thought that description was just so funny

[riotcat103]

Agamemnon: look there's no reason why we can't hang out together

Achilles: I have a reason

Agamemnon: which is?

Achilles: I.DONT.LIKE.YOU

[black-tea-blue-pen]

Ups.

Menelao y Helena van a la Isla de las Tentaciones. Paris está de tentador. Venus de presentadora. Duran medio programa.

[littlesparklight]

What they did? Well, Agamemnon is suing for emotional damages, at any rate!

[pearcaico]

Vista Aérea dos Bairros do Cabanga, Pina e Brasília Teimosa, Ponte Agamenon Magalhães - Recife Em 1973.

[stateofsport211]

Porto 2 Ch D SF: Daniel Cukierman/Piotr Matuszewski [2] def. Franco Agamenone/Santiago Rodriguez Taverna 7-6(5), 6-3 Match Stats

📸 ATP official website

It might have taken a while for D. Cukierman/P. Matuszewski to find their footing, where the third time was the charm for them to serve it out. However, they appeared firmer in the second set, withstanding pressure in a more balanced manner as they tried to close things out, which paid off toward the end of the match. This way, they generated more break points (12 to 10), converting 5 of them compared to the unseeded pair's 40% break point conversion rate.

Besides, D. Cukierman/P. Matuszewski also had a better experience on their serves. Even though both pairs scored an ace, the second seeds had an exceptional first serve winning percentage with 71%, 11% more than F. Agamenone/S. Rodriguez Taverna, which helped them navigate some problems. To add, the unseeded pair double-faulted 4 times, which faded their second serve winning percentage 7% below the second seeds throughout the match.

In the ongoing finals, D. Cukierman/P. Matuszewski takes on first seeds Romain Arneodo/Theo Arribage, who defeated Siddhant Banthia/Tennyson Whiting 6-2, 7-6(5) in another epic battle. While this shapes up to have a neat start, the more consistent one would prevail in this match. Could be a tough one on paper, but who knows what from here!

[alfredol70]

Franco Agamenone vs Pavel Kotov | F Braunschweig • Highlights

[leynaeithnea]

Diomedes

Ok so this wikipedia article was a LOT more elaborate than I expected, I just spend over two hours going through it and making notes Nobody asked for it but here are my notes on Diomedes, theyre not consistent, i changed style and detail a few times, but alas here we go:

Diomedes:

strong defender of justice, deserves better

lost a lot of people

warrior very young

athenas favorite warrior

his fathers glory (and shame)

breast plate from haephestus

shield from his father blessed by athena

fathers sword

spear

boars, lion

most expiereneced warrior of achaeans

doesnt like achilles

brought 80 ships

Sthenelus, chariot driver, best friend, epigoni

youngest of the kings

(post homeric: offered immortality, divinified)

helped Odysseus kill Agemenons daughter

helped Odysseus kill Palamedes (bitch deserved)

brave, NOT haunted by hubris

wounds both ares and aphrodite (same day) and attacts apollo, but withdrew in time

granted divine sight to see immortals (on that day)

grew up way too soon

big battle when 14

more level headed than Ody (can take an insult)

doesnt hesitate to call out bs

“let him go or stay, the gods will make sure that he will fight” (hc: he tried, very humbled by the gods)

athena joined his fight once, driving his chariot and guiding his spear

“friends” with glaucus (trojan) (“i wont fight more immortals” “bro, our grandparents were bros”, “ok give me your gold armour, ill give you my bronze one”)

saves Nestor (ody runs away when he asks for help :(

wants to kill hector so he doesnt get taunted (Nestor says no, Zeus says no 3x /+1 lighting) he eventually turns back and gets taunted, he kills another guy

he attacks the trojans at night and wins, after hector boasted, in the end diomedes is the one worshipped as immortal

agamnenon wants to leave, Dio says hes a bad leader (yes), and that he’ll stay to fight the city that is doomed to fall, even with zeus fighting for the trojans, nestor says he has no better idea, proposed to appeall to achilles with gifts (ody and agamenon agree), they fail, Dio tells them “told you so” (but it doesnt matter anyway, theyll win)

he sleeps outside his tent in armour (they wake him n others at night for council about spies, Dio volunteers, he gets to pick a second, he goes for Ody, ody didnt rly want to go, Dio choose him anyway despite deserting him)

Dio and ody face the spy of the trojans Dolon, (hiding between corpses) he almost runs away but Athena “is fighting to be known” doesnt want someone else to strike first, so she makes Diomedes throw the spear and orders him to stop, Dolon tells them good gossip, including white horses, Dio kills him

they do some more bs, like killing people in their sleep (dio) and stealing horses (ody) dio considers unaliving more until athena suggests he may stop so other gods dont get jealous

both kings are good at being stealthy AND open combat

Rhesus horses are badass (first sign for the fall of troy), Dio gets them (bedding gift?), people without the horses and king leave W for the achaeans

Lord of War Cry

dio throws a spear at hector, apollos helmet saves him, but he mingles with the crowd, first time that Dio speaks back and calls him a dog (even the best men loose their temper at times)

Paris shoots his foot, (fucking moron blasts about it, Dio gives him a verbal lashing) he withdraws under cover of Odysseus, ody gets an ouchy

agamennon wants to flee (again), Dio tells them they should just let themselves get wounded again

Dio wins all funeral games of patroclus (though wounded) – Athena makes sure of it – draws first blood in the fight with Ajax, they stop him worried he’d kill him

Athena appears to him undiguised, Athenas favorite

kills some amazons, Achilles kills his cousin (who was a bitch), dio mourns him though and wants to have achilles punished

Dio and Ody bring Achilles son to Troy after Achilles death (bc they could not win the war without him there)

Ody and Dio sent to negoiate for peace after Paris’ death (by poised bow that the two of them stole?)

dio and ody gotta steal a statue of athena, ody disguises himself as beggar at night, dio follows later and brings the statue out

Ody tries to stab him in the back?? (to get the glory himself???) Dio catches it and ties him, and shoves him infront of himself, but refrains from punishing him because they need him (“for the greater good”)

dio is one of the warriors inside the trojan horse

dio leaves immediatly after the fall of troy (after the achaeans angered athena through the rape of cassandra by ajax the lesser) and arrives home safely (favored by the gods) Post Trojan war possibilities:

when he gets there his wife has commited adultery and keeps him out of town (palamedes brother having told he brought a different woman) aphrodite being pissed about the scratch helps her get many lovers, he has to leave again

gets kidnapped by some guy to get sacrificied to ares, gets saved by a girl

comes to the court of some other king who offers him his daughter as wife and lands, if he fights for them, so he does, and has two sons with her

he refuses to fight more trojans later on, he just wants to live in peace

birds haunt him and his men (his men cried so much over his death they got turned into birds)

[nyssasatelier]

the iliad

(first 20 pages poorly summarized)

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Agamemnon : *takes a girl hostage*

Priest of Apollo : Give me back my daughter please I'll pay whatever ransom you want 😔

The army : Hell yeah! Money! We need that!

Agamemnon : No. Now take your shit and fuck off.

The army : *sigh*

Priest of Apollo : Apollo please kill these guys 🥺

Apollo : Anything for a homie😎 *starts killing people*

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Achilles: You fucked up. Apollo wants to kill us all.

Agamemnon : No i didn't. 😤

Achilles : Okay so i brought a prophet to tell us who did. Don't kill him. 🙄

Agamenon : okay alright sure. 😁

Calchus : It was you 🫵 Agamenon, you fucked up.

Agamemnon : ... Why you little- 🤬

Achilles : Now that we know you fucked up- 😌

Agamemnon : No i didn't! 😡

Calchus : You kind of did-

Agamemnon : Shut up i literally never liked you. 😡

Achilles : Why don't you just undo your fuck up? 😡

Agamemnon : Shut up Achilles, I don't need you here!

Achilles: Alright then, i'll go home. I quit. 🤨

Agamemnon: ... You can't quit! I fire you! 🤬

Achilles: I ALREADY QUIT YOU DUMB BITCH 🤬

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Also Achilles immediately afterwards: Mommy I'm being bullied make Zeus avenge me 🥺

His mom (who is a god) : my poor baby boy! 🥺💔

His mom : Zeus curse these people >:(

Zeus : eh....i don't really want to 🥱

Hera : Don't do it! :0

Zeus : SHUT UP I DO WHAT I WANT!!! 🤬

~

Meanwhile Odysseus : Yo i brought your daughter back! :D

The Priest of Apollo and his daughter : Yippee :D

Odysseus and the men : *Start sacrificing animals so apollo stops killing them*

Apollo: hmm ... :|

Odysseus and the men : *Have a barbecue and karaoke sleep over at Apollos temple*

Apollo : FUCK YEAH LETS GO :D

[fatehbaz]

[In] the making and unmaking of amphibious urban modernity in Recife in the Northeast of Brazil [...] the transformation of the city was predicated on [...] [a] notion of whiteness that required the enclosure of wet, amphibious space to make dry land. [...] Racialised groups - of black, indigenous, and mixed heritages - and the houses, marshlands, and mangroves where they lived, were subject to eradication [...]. [F]rom the 1920s to 1950s, during the rise to hegemony in Brazil of [a particular form of nationalism,] [...] [the] idea's heartland [was] the Northeast. This period gave birth to Brazilian urban modernity [...]. [F]orests, wetness, and the spectre of commonly held land were understood as threats to whiteness and its self-association with order, purity [...]. To answer the question of why the racial division of nature was so important, [...] turn to the hygienic, boundary-making practices of the Brazilian Estado Novo [...] [and its] eugenic visions [...].

Nature is deeply imbricated in the processes of white supremacy [...]. Recife is one of the largest cities in Brazil, and one of the oldest. [...] Recife is also a centre of Brazilian black culture [...]. One of the key sites in Brazil's slave and sugar trades [...], the city was [...] [a] hub. Many of these people lived in what came to be called mocambos, a word that designated an informal dwelling, but came to mean much more. The population of the mocambos included not only black Brazilians, but sertanejos from the backlands, black and indigenous caboclos, and others [...]. Enclosure was the crucial mechanism of this division.

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The Recifense geographer Josué de Castro contended that the mangroves were a kind of commons [...]. Zélia de Oliveira Gominho (2012) characterises the city's transformation [from 1920 to 1950] through the oscillation between its twin faces of “mucambópolis” and Veneza Americana (the Venice of the Americas). [...]

Mocambos were seen as [...] the place where exploited labour was kept out of sight. [...] They were also [...] the inheritance [...] of the quilombo - the community of escaped slaves. [...] Gilberto Freyre was perhaps the single most influential figure in producing this defining national myth in Brazil. In 1936, he wrote a book on the Mucambos do Nordeste [...]. Josué de Castro wrote very differently about the mangroves and mocambos. [...] He analysed Recife as “amphibious”: built half in and half out of the water [...]. When Josué de Castro [...] [wrote] in the early 1930s, the city was in the midst of political turbulence. As land values increased, the city expanded, and [...] [oppressive] politics intensified [...].

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With the installment of the [...] [oppressive] Estado Novo regime in 1937, and its project of creating a “new man,” hygienist modernisation gathered speed. In July 1939, the proto-fascist administration [...] of Agamenon Magalhães, put in place by Getúlio Vargas' repressive Estado Novo, launched the Liga Social Contra o Mocambo (Social League Against the Mocambo, LSCM).

The League emerged out of a tellingly named “Crusade” against the mocambos. [...] Mocambos were characterised as repellent, unhygienic, and dangerous: “the mocambo which repels. The mocambo which is the tomb of a race … a sombre landscape of human misery … which mutilates human energy and annuls work [...].

The LSCM couched its civilisational, modernising mission in the conjuncture of techno-scientific discourses of medicine and planning with clear eugenic tones [...]. [T]he LSCM commissioned a fresh census of the 45,000 mocambos in the city. They brought the mocambos/mangroves into being as objects of knowledge on behalf of the economic elite and local, national, and international capital. In the 1923 census in Recife, “of 39,026 dwellings surveyed, 51.1% were considered ‘deficient’ mocambos.” [...]

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These were the decades of the embranquecimento of the Brazilian population through public policies of immigration, miscegenation, and sterilisation [...]. This white supremacist ideology was inseparably a politics of nature. Magalhães wrote:

The idle life, the life that the income of the mocambos provides, is a life without restlessness and without greatness. It is a life of stagnant water. … [that] generates in its breast the venom of larvae, which are the enemies of life. Enemies of life, as are the mocambos and the sub-soil of cities, where the polluted waters contaminate pure waters, which come from the deepest layers of the earth. (Magalhães, 1939c, n.p.)

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Attempts to “cleanse” the city functioned through a distinct process: aterramento, the making of land. [...]

Or as 1990s mangue beat [mangrove beat] musicians [...] put it, “the fastest way also to obstruct and evacuate the soul of a city like Recife is to kill its rivers and fill up its estuaries” [...]. This racial division of nature - in alliance with, bound up with, a racial division of space - facilitated the production of spacialised white supremacy.

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All text above by: Archie Davies. "The racial division of nature: Making land in Recife". Transactions of the Institute of British Geographers, Volume 46, Issue 2, pages 270-283. First published 29 November 2020. At: doi dot org slash 10.1111/tran.12426 [Bold emphasis and paragraph breaks/contractions added by me. Presented here for teaching, commentary, criticism purposes.]