#addee bates

[thefundiedata]

How does this blog work?

Good question sent in, and one that I haven't tried to answer in a long time so I apologise if this doesn't make total sense. I'll go through the different data sets I use.

Family Specific Data I use specific family data for the Bates, Duggar and Rodrigues families to predict the start date of relationships and the length of new relationships. I take the average and the Standard Deviations for the start of courtships in each family and use that to predict when younger family members may start a relationship. I also average previous relationship lengths to predict when engagements and weddings will happen for new couples. For instance, the average Bates daughter starts a courtship at 20.79 years but the average Duggar daughter starts a courtship at 22.29 years. The first set will apply to Addee Bates, the second set to Hannie Duggar.

Maternal Multiplier This is probably my biggest data set as it includes previous generations and other fundie families I used to casually follow but no longer really look into.

It includes all the births I have ever tracked. Births are categorised by the age of the mother at the time of the birth. The categories are Under 25, 25-29, 30-34, 35-39, 40-44 and 45+. I take the average of each age group to create a maternal multiplier, IE: how many times larger is the average for each group compared to the Under 25 category. For instance, the average Under 25 spacing is 532 days while the average 25-29 spacing is 628 days. This is roughly 1.179x the length of the Under 25 spacings.

First births after marriage don't qualify for this as they are statistically much quicker than all other births.

Post-Loss Spacing Quite simply, the mean average of all post-loss spacings on the spreadsheet, plus the Standard Deviation of the set. The average currently stands at 426 days and the Standard Deviation at 156 days. This makes it likely a post-loss birth will occur by 582 days after loss. Post-loss spacings aren't included in the maternal multiplier, second child multiplier etc. though loss data is if the couple announce when the lost pregnancy was due.

Second Child Multiplier As I said earlier, first children come much quicker than others in fundie families (and probably in a lot of families if my friendship group are anything to go by?) so are not much use in predicting when a second child will come. Instead, I have all the Bates, Duggar and Rodrigues couples in the spreadsheet to compare when their first and second children arrived. A multiplier is then created by dividing the second child spacing and the first child spacing. I then average all these different multipliers for the overall second child multiplier.

Currently, the quickest second child multiplier is Nurie Rodrigues at 0.91 (her second child spacing was quicker than her first) and the longest is Carlin Stewart at 3.13 (her second child came more than 3 times slower than her first).

The mean multiplier is 1.74. That means when a couple has only one child, their first child spacing is multiplied by 1.74 to predict their second child spacing.

Example: Tiffany Bates has had one child, but they are post-loss. Her loss data is used instead. Her estimated spacing for that first pregnancy was 738 days after marriage. To calculate her second child spacing, the following is used: 738 x 1.74 = 1,284 days. I would usually also apply the maternal multiplier to this... but this spacing is so large, I'm not following my own rules!

Third Child Onwards From the third child onwards, I take the mean of all used spacings (second child onwards, not post-loss) and multiply by the applicable maternal multiplier.

Example: The mean of all Erin Paine's applicable spacings is 618 days. This multiplied by 1.291 (the 30-34 maternal multiplier) is 783 days - so this is her predicted spacing for Baby 7.

[spurgie-cousin]

Do you think the little Bates girls will do the social media thing when they start dating? If I remember correctly none of the older girls had public IG accounts until they had at least met their future husbands, even if the relationships hadn't become serious yet. I'm assuming that's how it will be for Addee, Ellie, and Callie.

Yea I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be the same

[duggarbatesfan]

Happy Mother’s Day Kelly-Jo Bates!!

[keepingupwithfundies]

Does addie Bates have a hearing issue? Her speech seems like it

Yes, she has a hearing issue as a result of her premature birth. 

-T 

[undercoverduggarblog]

Looking at old bates photos young Alyssa is addees TWIN! It’s pretty cool to have so many kids and one family because you get to see all the different ways the genetics can combine, and it’s so interesting to see that with a big enough selection, you will get very very similar combinations!

the bates are SUCH a good example of this. i watch katie’s stories and sometimes she turns her head while talking and i see four different sisters in her

[duggardata]

Who, Exactly, Does Duggar Data Track?

Y’all may have noticed...  There have been a lot of changes around here, lately!  I’ve added so many new families to the Predictor that I’m thinking it might be a little difficult to keep track.  Just so we are all on the same page, here is the full list of Predictor Families / Couples—i.e., those whose information is fully–input into my spreadsheets, allowing for instant analysis via the Predictor.

(Note—Couples that overlap two Predictor Families are italicized.)

The Duggar Family

Jim Bob + Michelle (Ruark) Duggar’s 19 Children, including 9 Married Couples—

Josh + Anna (Keller) Duggar

John + Abbie (Burnett) Duggar

Jill (Duggar) + Derick Dillard

Jessa (Duggar) + Ben Seewald

Jinger (Duggar) + Jeremy Vuolo

Joe + Kendra (Caldwell) Duggar

Josiah + Lauren (Swanson) Duggar

Joy (Duggar) + Austin Forsyth

Justin + Claire (Spivey) Duggar

... and 10 Non–Partnered Children—Jana, Jedidiah, Jeremiah, Jason, James, Jackson, Johannah, Jennifer, Jordyn, and Josie).

The Bates Family

Gil + Kelly Jo’s 19 Children, including 7 Married Couples—

Zach + Whitney (Perkins) Bates

Michaela (Bates) + Brandon Keilen

Erin (Bates) + Chad Paine

Alyssa (Bates) + John Webster

Tori (Bates) + Bobby Smith

Carlin (Bates) + Evan Stewart

Josie (Bates) + Kelton Balka

... 3 Not–Married–So–Far Couples (Lawson Bates + Tiffany Espensen, Nathan Bates + Esther Keyes, and Katie Bates + Travis Clark), and 9 Non–Partnered Children—Trace, Jackson, Warden, Isaiah, Addee, Ellie, Callie, Judson, and Jeb.

The Bontrager Family

Marlin + Becky’s 10 Children, including 5 Married Couples—

Chelsy (Bontrager) + John Maxwell

Mitchell + Bryn (Leppert) Bontrager

Allison (Bontrager) + Jeremiah Helferich

Carson + Carolina (Bowers) Bontrager

Joshua + Cassidy (Bowers) Bontrager

... 1 Engaged Couple (Denver Bontrager + Praise Helferich), and 4 Non–Partnered Children—Taylor, Liz, Hudson, and Rebecca.

The Caldwell Family

Paul + Christina Caldwell’s 8 Children (+1 On The Way), including 1 Married Couple—

Kendra (Caldwell) + Joe Duggar

... 1 Engaged–But–Probably–Broken–Up Couple (Lauren Caldwell + Titus Hall), 6 Non–Partnered Children (Micah, Nathan, Timothy, Olivia, Jesiah, and Isaiah), and 1 Still In–Utero.

The Keller Family

Half of Mike + Suzette Kellers’ Children.  Just the quiverfull ones, comprised of 4 Married Couples—

Esther (Keller) + John Shrader

Priscilla (Keller) + David Waller

Anna (Keller) + Josh Duggar

Nathan + Nurie (Rodrigues) Keller

The Maxwell Family

Steve + Teri’s 8 Children, including 5 Married Couples—

Nathan + Melanie (Maher) Maxwell

Christopher + Anna Marie (Hamilton) Maxwell

Joseph + Elissa (Frost) Maxwell

John + Chelsy (Bontrager) Maxwell

Jesse + Anna (Craig) Maxwell

... plus, 3 Non–Partnered Children / Daughters—Sarah, Anna, and Mary.

The Rodrigues Family 

Jill + David’s 13 Children, including 1 Married Couple—

Nurie (Rodrigues) + Nathan Keller

... and, 12 Non–Partnered Children—Timothy, Kaylee, Renée, Phillip, Samuel, Gabriel, Tessie, Hannah, Olivia, Sadie, Sofia, and Janessa.

Miscellaneous Couples

... and why they’re notable—

Karissa (Goering) + Mandrae Collins  (Prolific Instagrammer)

Sierra (Baird) + Mark Dominguez  (Counting On; Friends of the Duggars)

Courtney (Harkins) + Christopher Rogers  (Prolific Instagrammer)

Kristen + Justin Young  (Counting On; Friends of the Duggars)

Also, I’ve decided to stop tracking Bethany (Baird) + David Beal...  Honestly, I just find her so annoying, I can’t handle following her Instagram anymore.  I’m not planning to follow any of the Girl Defined girls, I find them insufferable.

Duggar Data also casually follows several others—e.g., Amy (Duggar) + Dillon King, Sue + Noel Radford, the Kody Brown Family, and a few of the Predictor In–Laws (e.g., Dan + Deena Dillard and Meagan [Forsyth] + Bobby Ballinger).   

[obsessedwithduggars]

WHEN did the younger Bates girls get so grown up?? Like Addee is almost a full grown adult? I feel like that happened so fast! She is so grown up looking in Alyssa’s Instagram stories 🤯

[jingersnosescrunch]

Bates family post about Easter and Addee. Kelly answers a question below about if one of her kids decided not be Christian.

[fundienames]

The Most Average Bates Name

Happy Wednesday everybody! Today we will begin a new series in which we will look into a series of criteria to determine the most average name!

The most average name will be determined using a point system. I will list the top 5 names for each criteria and they will get points accordingly (5 points for first, 4 for second, etc.) At the end we will add the points together to see who has the most average name!

First Names

Popularity

Average 171

Zachary 29

Michael 747

Erin 44

William (Lawson) 20

Kenneth (Nathan) 60

Alyssa 26

Tori 159

Trace 497

Carlin N/A

Josie 320

Katie 96

Jackson 50

Warden N/A

Isaiah 45

Addallee N/A

Ellie 172

Callie-Anna 133*

Judson N/A

Jeb N/A

*Callie-Anna’s 133 is an average of Callie & Anna’s data

Most Average

Ellie +1

Tori -12

Callie-Anna -38

Katie -75

Kenneth (Nathan) -111

Syllables

Average 2.2

Zachary 3

Michael 2

Erin 2

William (Lawson) 3

Kenneth (Nathan) 2

Alyssa 3

Tori 2

Trace 1

Carlin 2

Josie 2

Katie 2

Jackson 2

Warden 2

Isaiah 3

Addallee 3

Ellie 2

Callie-Anna 4

Judson 2

Jeb 1

Most Average

Michael, Erin, Kenneth (Nathan), Tori, Carlin, Josie, Katie, Jackson, Warden, Ellie, Judson -.2

Zachary, William (Lawson), Alyssa, Isaiah, Addallee +.8

Trace, Jeb -1.2

Callie-Anna +1.8

Letters

Average 5.9

Zachary 7 

Michael 7

Erin 4

William (Lawson) 7

Kenneth (Nathan) 7

Alyssa 6

Tori 4

Trace 5

Carlin 6

Josie 5

Katie 5

Jackson 7

Warden 6

Isaiah 6

Addallee 8

Ellie 5

Callie-Anna 9

Judson 6

Jeb 3

Most Average

Alyssa, Carlin, Warden, Isaiah, Judson +.1

Trace, Josie, Katie, Ellie -.9

Zachary, Michael, William (Lawson), Kenneth (Nathan), Jackson +1.1

Erin, Tori -1.9

Addallee +2.1

Total Points 

Ellie 14

Katie & Tori 11

Warden, Judson, & Carlin 10

Josie, Kenneth (Nathan), Alyssa, & Isaiah 9

Michael & Jackson 8

Middle Names

Popularity

Average 342

Gilvin N/A

Christian 308

Elise 273

Lawson N/A

Nathaniel 75

Joy 395

Layne 789

Whitfield N/A

Brianne 453

Kellyn N/A

Grace 19

Ezekiel 333

Justice 370

Courage 847

Hope 196

Bridget 343

Rose 330

Wyatt 57

 Colton N/A

Most Average

Bridget (Ellie) +1

Ezekiel (Jackson) -9

Rose (Callie) -12

Justice (Warden) +28

Christian (Michael) -34

Syllables

Average 1.9

Gilvin 2

Christian 2

Elise 2

Lawson 2

Nathaniel 4

Joy 1

Layne 1

Whitfield 2

Brianne 2

Kellyn 2

Grace 1

Ezekiel 4

Justice 2

Courage 2

Hope 1

Bridget 2

Rose 1

Wyatt 2

Colton 2

Most Average

Gilvin (Zach), Christian (Michael), Elise (Erin), Lawson, Whitfield (Trace), Brianne (Carlin), Kellyn (Josie), Justice (Warden), Courage (Isaiah), Bridget (Ellie), Wyatt (Judson), Colton (Jeb) +.1

Joy (Alyssa), Layne (Tori), Grace (Katie), Hope (Addee), Rose (Callie) -.9

Nathaniel, Ezekiel +1.1

Letters

Average 6.2

Gilvin 6

Christian 9

Elise 5

Lawson 6

Nathaniel 9

Joy 3

Layne 5

Whitfield 9

Brianne 7

Kellyn 6

Grace 5

Ezekiel 7

Justice 8

Courage 8

Hope 4

Bridget 7

Rose 4

Wyatt 5

Colton 6

Most Average

Gilvin (Zach), Lawson, Kellyn (Josie), Colton (Jeb) -.2

Brianne (Carlin), Ezekiel (Jackson), Bridget (Ellie) +.8

Layne (Tori), Grace (Katie), Wyatt (Judson) -1.2

Justice (Warden), Courage (Isaiah) +1.8

Hope (Addee), Rose (Callie) -2.2

Total Points

Bridget (Ellie) 14

Ezekiel (Jackson) 11

Colton (Jeb), Lawson, Kellyn (Josie), Gilvin (Zach) 10

Justice (Warden) & Brianne (Carlin) 9

Wyatt (Judson) & Rose (Callie) 8

Final Scores

Most Average First Name: Ellie 

Most Average Middle Name: Bridget

Most Average Full Name: Ellie Bridget 

Top 5 Full Names

Ellie Bridget 28

Josie Kellyn, Carlin Brianne, Warden Justice, & Jackson Ezekiel 19

Judson Wyatt, Tori Layne, & Katie Grace 18

William Lawson & Zachary Gilvin 17

Isaiah Courage 16

That was a ton of fun to make! I hope you all enjoyed this post, and were as shocked as I was to see how much Ellie swept this post! See you all later with the Duggars

-fundienames

[fundies-and-brimstone]

So this absolutely ridiculous graphic shows all Bates/Duggar 2nd generation kids and their spouses (plus Chaney, I was also going to include Travis but I couldn’t find a birth date) in order of birth. Some main takeaways from the 20 minutes of lifetime I spent on this and will not get back: 

- Alyssa is younger than Jinger? How?  - Joe is older than Ben?? - Whitney is really young still! - Ben, Bobby, Kelton and Evan are all basically the same age, which is crazy because Bobby, Kelton, and Evan have one kid with one on the way, one kid that was just born, and on on the way, while Ben has three at home. - There are a LOT of people between John and Alyssa and Jeremy and Jinger (but it’s less bad with JinJer because they got married later, Alyssa got married as a teenager..), - and I think Josh and Anna are the only couple that are directly next to each other. - Joy and Carlin are super close in age, I guess I always knew they were besties but it makes sense if they were maybe grouped together whenever the families saw each other. - There’s always lots of talk about Jana still being single, but really, Nathan and Lawson are also total outliers, not being married yet. The next person after them that isn’t at least in a serious courtship are Jer an Jed, and they’re only 20, while Lawson is 27! - JosieD is still really young. - Also, there are still tons of possibilities for a Duggar/Bates wedding: Justin/Addee, JacksonB/Johanna, Isaiah/Johanna, JacksonD/Ellie, Jackson/Callie, Isaiah/Jennifer, Warden/Johanna, Warden/Jennifer..

[totallyrobophobic]

BuB Season 9 Episode 14

Roaring Bates and Pending Due Dates

A Love filled day and Baby Layla is on her way! Soon to be parents Carlin and Evan lean on Erin’s decorating expertise and Chad’s handyman skills to put the finishing touches on Baby Layla’s nursery. Now that the renovations are complete, Josie and Kelton host a housewarming party and celebrate their new business ventures with their family! Meanwhile Trace is dealing with a broken heart; he turns to his parents and Zach for relationship advice. Later, a routine ultrasound for Carlin becomes worrisome and she ends up in the hospital sooner than expected…Will baby Layla arrive before her due date? And the whole family gathers in Rocky Top for their annual I Love you Day festivities. Katie’s “friend” Travis joins the celebration; Is a courtship calling for the young couple?

BuB Season 9 Episode 15

A Double Date & Something To Celebrate

It’s double date fun when Katie and Travis join Josie and Kelton for a pizza making party! Will Travis’ dough rolling skills impress his leading lady and is a courtship in the works for the cute couple? Tori’s gearing up for Baby #2. She heads to Dr. Vick’s for an ultrasound and to check in about her blood clotting disorder. Meanwhile, Erin, Whitney and Carlin discuss their growing business and motherhood since they each have little ones. Later, Lawson receives a warm welcome from his family, now that he’s back from the Philippines!

BuB Season 9 Episode 16

Beauty and the Business

Doctor’s orders! Gil’s recovered from shoulder surgery but is he keeping up with his rehab? Meanwhile, Josie’s business, Effortless Beauty, is buzzing! She and her business partner meet up with a bride-to-be for a hair and makeup trial and we get a glimpse at Kelton and Bobby’s new plumbing partnership. Long distance loves, Katie and Travis, make plans to celebrate his 19th birthday in New Jersey. Later, to celebrate Addee and Jackson’s milestone birthdays, the family takes them indoor skydiving. But will Addee get cold feet when it’s her turn to “jump?”

BuB Season 9 Episode 17

I Love You to Piz-zas!

All you need is love and Pizza! Katie, Gil and Kelly Jo are in New Jersey for Travis’ birthday weekend! While Katie thinks she’s going to be celebrating her crush all weekend, she’s actually 48 hours away from Travis asking her to court! In between celebrating his birthday and going ax throwing, Travis finds time to put his five senses courtship plan in motion. Will a sweet serenade and heart shaped pizza win over Katie’s heart?

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[thefundiedata]

My word Addee Bates' graduation speech is so depressing. She's a sinner who doesn't deserve a relationship with God but Jesus has saved her. She wanted to go to Heaven but refused to acknowledge her sin nature for years. In the same video, Addee says kids 'are so sweet and innocent and know all the right things to say' - no Addee, according to you, they are sinners and they do not deserve a relationship with God.

I feel so bad for the kids raised in IBLP or IFB with no critical thinking skills and constant emotional manipulation.

[spurgie-cousin]

The Bates really gave their younger girls names like Callie, Ellie, and Addee to make sure no one would be able to keep track of them 💀 it's been years and Im still strugglin

Right lol it's like they just gave up at the end like "ok uhhhhh what'd we name the last one??? Ellie ok, um, uhhhhh fuck alright change the E to an A and add a C, this one is Callie, boom! I told you I can still come up with names Gil"

[duggarbatesfan]

Happy 13th Birthday Addallee Hope Bates!!

[keepingupwithfundies]

BuB Season 10 Episodes 4-7

It’s a rainy long weekend here, and I managed to catch up on the Bringing Up Bates recaps. From Christmas to making plans for Valentine’s Day, the Bates family is quite busy with four babies on the way and three budding romances. 

-T

*Episode 4: 'Tis the Season For Surprises

Katie is teaching Ellie, Addee and Callie how to curl their hair. Katie says she is the only older girl in the house right now, and so she wanted to do a fun bonding activity. Ellie, Addee and Callie are not sure about learning themselves, but Katie says they should learn now before she leaves. The girls say they will miss Katie, but Callie is looking forward to having her own closet in the girls room. Travis will be coming soon, and Kelly says engagement is inevitable. His sister is recently engaged as well. Kelly asks Katie if they have any timeline, and Katie says she'll know when Travis talks to her dad, since he'll tell her mom and her mom will tell her. Everyone laughs, but agrees that Kelly isn't great at secrets. Kelly says Nathan is bringing his girlfriend as well, and everyone is excited to meet them. Katie is glad the pressure will be shared. The family will be spending Christmas all together, since Alyssa is due in February, they're not sure she can make Valentines.

Meanwhile, the guys get to work decorating the house outside of the house. Jackson is just back from Alert and wants to get the lights up. Jackson is glad to be home for Christmas after Alert, and Zach is there to see Jackson but got put to work on the lights. Nathan pulls up with Esther, and the family is excited to meet them. The work stops, and everyone rushes over to meet her. Esther is excited to meet everyone, and Whitney in particular is glad to meet them. Esther is also from a big family, and she says "the more the merrier!"

The couples (also Trace) gather for a bonfire, and also for a chance to meet Esther. Nathan teasingly makes Carlin move so he can sit next to Esther. Everyone works together to try to start the fire, and John jokes that the fire just needs "more people with more ideas to get it going." Eventually it starts burning, and Carlin asks for Nathan and Esther's story. They met at a mutual friends wedding, and Nathan thought she had the bluest eyes he'd ever seen. A week went by of them chatting, and Nathan wanted to be more than friends, and they kept talking everyday. Esther told him she wanted to be with him as well, and they've been talking for about a year. They waited a bit to go public, but they seem very happy. Carlin says she wanted to support them, and they're all glad that Nathan is so happy. Nathan asked Esther to be his girlfriend on her birthday, and Nathan says they'll see about the timelines but Nathan knows Esther is the one. Nathan genuinely seems thrilled, and the night is a success.

At Zach and Whitney's, they are decorating gingerbread men for a gender reveal. Whitney says she is excited for their fourth baby, and the plan is to give blue or pink cookies as a gift to the grandparents at the Christmas family photos. There is going to be multiple announcements at that time, Zach says. Bradley hopes for a boy, and Kaci wants a girl (shocker). Whitney is excited to tell everyone at the party.

Josie and Kelton arrive at a parking garage to do their gender reveal with Willow. Josie is excited to share that they're having another baby, and they don't know if it is a boy or a girl. They are going to find out by doing a photo shoot with her friend. This time, they wanted it to just be their little family finding out together. So, they twist the poppers and celebrate, but the episode doesn't show the color. They plan to tell everyone at the Christmas party.

It is time for the Christmas party, and Kelly says they have tried to be careful during covid (ok) and so Tori's family is sick and unable to make it, but everyone else was healthy and there. Zach and Whitney get their cookies ready, and then it is time to head out for pictures. The family pictures begin, and then it is time for the big family photo. It is very cold out, but the family gathers together for the photos. Then, it is announcement time. Josie goes first, and gives her father-in-law a gift. It is an ornament, and one side says "Baby Girl" and the other says "Hazel Sloane Balka." Everyone celebrates. Zach and Whitney go next, but Zach gives them one without color first as a prank, and then they get the cookie with the blue frosting. Bradley is so happy to have a brother. Erin is announcing on behalf of Tori and Bobby, and Kelly is excited to learn they are having a girl named Charlotte Raine. Everyone gets out of the cold, and Gil gathers the family to talk about Jesus. The family then sings carols. Gil says there are four new babies on the way, and two new relationships in the works, and there is a lot to celebrate.

*Episode 5: Home Sweet Home & Nathan's Love

Michael is at Tori and Bobby's new house, and Zach, Whitney and kids walk over to knock on the door. They are excited to be neighbors. Bobby says it was time to look for a house, and they haven't had a lot of luck until Whitney let them know the house two doors down went for sale. Bobby and Tori jumped on it, and they got the house since the original homeowners loved Zach and Whitney. The cousins are so excited to be close, and Bradley in particular is excited. Tori has asked Erin and Chad to decorate the house. Bobby has been working from home, so he has a desk in the bonus room that will eventually be Charlotte's. The boys have a room, and then Tori shows of their room. Brandon and Michael are thrilled for the new homeowners, and Bobby and Tori are so excited to be close to the family again.

The family goes on an outing to the zoo, which is one of Kelly's favorite places, for Layla's first birthday. Everyone is wearing masks, and Carlin is excited for Layla to see the animals. The family walks through the zoo. Kelly says the monkeys are her favorite, since they're so active. Carlin says she can't believe Layla is a year old, and she remembers all the memories they have made. Carlin says that Layla is their sunshine, and they are obsessed.

Alyssa and John are getting ready for their new arrival, and Alyssa says you would think they would be ready but technology keeps advancing and they keep getting cooler new items. Alyssa says this time around, she will be in the hospital with a doctor instead of a birth center with a midwife. The hospital rules are strict because of Covid, so Gil and Kelly will have to meet the baby at home. They set up their swing, and Alyssa says they have reversed the order with having kids young so that they will be able to enjoy their adult kids and grandkids younger too.

At the Bates Sisters Boutique location, Chad and Zach are working on getting everything functional for the boutique. Whitney says they are lucky trying to run a small business with all the talents in their family. The sisters arrive, and they are impressed with all the work that has been done. Erin says she has been sick and missed a lot of what has been going on, but she is excited to get to be part of the progress now. They go into another room to discuss the location of the photo shoot wall, since that is very important to their online branding. Erin suggests a location, and talks about how to turn the storefront area into an actual storefront. Everyone is excited by how far the boutique has come in such a short time, and they are excited to see where it will go.  

Zach is back to doing tree work with the family, and he says it is like no time has passed. Nathan is there, and he says he isn't home very much but it is satisfying getting to do tree work with his siblings. Zach says he forgot how much work tree work is, and Zach says he wants to be 56 and moving around like his dad instead of 33 and moving around like he is. Carlin says her dad is getting older,  but he is still the man. Jud and Jeb joke that is is getting too old. The tree job goes smoothly, and the guys start talking about Esther. Nathan says he wants to be with her forever, and he is thinking about the ring. Nathan thinks about a spring engagement and a fall wedding. Nathan says he is ready to change her from a girlfriend to a fiance. Nathan wants to fly her to the Bahamas, and they talk about ideas, but Nathan says he thinks he should run them by some girls to get their opinions. They get back to work, so Nathan can catch his flight out.

*Episode 6: A DIY Date and a Delivery Day

Erin and Chad and Bobby and Tori are on a couples getaway in Gatlinburg. It was a gift to them from Kelly and Gil for Christmas. While there, Erin has brought them to a place called Board & Brush, where you get to DIY home decor. First up, they begin distressing their wood. Then, they stain it. They talk about Tori's pregnancy- she is just about halfway, and feeling good. Chad asks Bobby about having a girl, and they are excited. The instructor spends some time showing them how to use the drill, which Tori thinks is useful for herself and Bobby, but not that useful for Chad. Chad tells them about the boutique project, and they are looking forward to moving in in a week. They complete their projects, and Tori is excited about hanging it up in their house.

Alyssa is preparing for her baby, and she has her daughters pack their bags to get ready for when the baby comes. John comes in to help them, and he says being a girl dad is a lot of fun. Alyssa starts handing out plastic bag filled with outfits for them to go. They finish packing, and Alyssa says they picked the name Maci Jo, Maci they just liked and Jo is for her mother and grandmother Betty Jo. Kelly is super excited to have a grandchild named for her, and says she can't stop saying the name.

Effortless Beauty Co is doing a stylized shoot at Castleton Farms, and they are thrilled about the opportunity. Katie gets to work on makeup, and she makes conversation with the models about looking forward to her wedding. Katie says she is ready for the ring. The shoot goes well, the bride loves her makeup, and Katie says she can't wait until she gets to be in the client chair.

Brandon and Michael arrive at Zach & Whitney's, bearing lasagna and homemade bread. Zach and Whitney are thrilled to get to enjoy Michael's lasagna. Zach & Whit's house is crazy, since the boutique is taking up half their house right now. Michael talks about her sewing business, which took the back burner during school but it is growing fast. Michael is volunteering at children's hospital for now while she figures out what is next. Everyone agrees that it was a fun dinner and they need to do it more.

Alyssa calls her mom, and says she thinks she is in labor. Alyssa wants to give her mom some time to make plans. Alyssa is just in early labor but she wants her parents to start heading their way so they can meet Maci. Alyssa gets everything ready to go, but now she is wondering if it is labor or not. Alyssa starts walking because she just wants labor to get going so she can be done. Alyssa has usually had shorter labors, but this one is taking its time. Alyssa has been having contractions for a while, and so she is heading to the hospital to see if they can help her progress. In the hospital, Alyssa gets an epidural and is making quick progress. The doctor lets John help deliver the baby, and he is thrilled he got to help.  Alyssa is pleased with her hospital experience, but she is excited to go home and introduce Maci to everyone. Gil and Kelly arrive in Florida to meet Maci. Everyone is thrilled for the Webster family and wants to meet Maci.

*Episode 7: Lawson's New Love and the Boutique's New Digs!?

Chad has been working on an old camper since he loved camping as a kid and he wants to do it with his family. The camper is old, but it has good bones and they are completely redoing it. They step inside the camper and talk about what they want to change. Gil and Kelly joke that they are going to make the camper incredible like they always do. Erin says that with 2020, they look forward to getting out there and making new memories all together.

Kelly is preparing for Valentine's Day, but Kelly isn't as prepared as she usually is. Nathan and Lawson walk in, and Kelly says they need to pick about the theme. They debate different ideas, and Katie walks over to get involved. One of the little kids suggested animals, and Kelly facetimes their group text and Zach gets on to share his opinion. They joke that no matter what, Zach will come as a cowboy again, and Lawson jokes that he will be a better cowboy. Zach says he won't, since he doesn't have a girlfriend-and Kelly says Lawson actually might have some news in that department. Zach asks if he is bringing Nathan again, and Lawson says he has upgraded in the beauty department. Kelly says Lawson was traveling a lot to California, and she thought he was working but she then learned that there was a girl in California that he liked. Everyone agrees on the animal theme, and Kelly is glad to start getting to work on the party.

It is Boutique moving day, and there is a lot of clothes being transported to the new location. There was a huge moving sale where 5,000 dresses where sold which enabled them to move. It was a huge group effort to move the product. Trace and Chad load up a truck load to take to the new location, and then the team goes into the new location. Everyone is so excited by the new space- Chad has built a beautiful packaging station for the boutique. There is a lot of work still to go, but they are excited for the new space for their store.

Lawson and Trace are looking for Duke, Lawson's dog. Trace jokes that Duke likes Trace better than Lawson since he is spending more time with him. Lawson is preparing to take him to training for a few months. Jackson comes out on the porch, and he has unfortunately broken his arm snowboarding in Colorado. Jackson had surgery with 13 screws and two metal plates put in his arm.  Trace mentions that Tiffany was on the trip to Colorado, and he has been spending a lot of time in California. Lawson said his girlfriend Tiffany joined him on the trip. Lawson says it is early in the relationship but a great trip. Lawson says she is coming to Valentine's Day, and everyone is thrilled about that. Gil and Kelly are looking forward to spending more time with her. Nathan is glad they're both in relationships at the same time, and they are excited to see how this pans out.

[wtffundiefamilies]

Name your favorite to least favorite Bates.

I don’t watch BUB so I don’t have a LOT to go on, but I’ll give it a shot.

Faves:

- Callie (she’s SO freaking cute)

- Jackson (I assume he’s still adorable and smart)

- Michael (she seems genuinely caring, generous and nice)

- Tori (she makes me laugh and besides the general objections I have towards the whole family there’s nothing specific about Tori that I dislike)

- Isaiah (he just seemed like the cutest little dude on UBA and seems to still be a sweet kid)

- Erin (she seemed so snobby growing up but I think she’s grown up a lot and she seems deeply grateful for her kids, so I generally do like her now, and I’m glad/relieved that she’s moved away from Gothard, especially now that she has a daughter)

Mixed opinions:

- Zach and Whitney (they are normal when it comes to things like letting the kids wear real bathing suits, but they’re loud vocal Trump supporters and tbh their attitudes towards gender make me cringe.)

- Carlin (I find her kind of obnoxious but in the same way most older teen fundie girls seem to be.  She still seems like a good friend to everyone she cares about.)

- Gil (he’s funny and definitely tries to be a great dad.  But ever since that time he was asked about the Nathan Bedford Forrest portrait in the home and his response was to delete both the comment and the photo from the site to pretend it never happened/didn’t exist instead of responding, I’ve been skeptical of him.  Plus the fact that he’s sticking with Gothard even knowing what’s happened.  And knowing that his two oldest daughters are exactly that creep’s “type.”)

- Kelly (basically everything about Gil applies to her as well)

- Lawson (he’s a braggart and full of himself, and can’t do anything nice without boasting about it.  But hey at least he’s doing nice things I guess, and points for ditching Gothard even as a single guy still living with his dad who works for him; that takes some guts.)  

Just kind of indifferent to:

- Alyssa (she’s decided how she wants to live her life and that’s awesome, and her kids are adorable; I just don’t find her all that interesting or have any strong opinions on her.  Her outfits are always awesome though, I will give her that!)

- Judson, Jeb, Warden, Addee and Ellie (they seem like lovely kids I just know nothing about them)

- Josie (I feel like she’ll strike me as super similar to Carlin if she ever makes her IG public but for now I don’t know)

- Katie (I like her and I hope she still aspires to nursing school; just, again, I know little about her)

- Nathan (he seems nice, he seems super gay, and he seems pretty quiet; that’s all I’ve got)

- Trace (I feel like I MIGHT not like him once he becomes more public as an individual on social media or whatever, but for now that’s just a vague vibe)

…if I’ve forgotten anyone you can probably put them on the “indifferent” list ;)  I didn’t know if I should include husbands or not since they’re technically not Bateses, or the grandkids.  But all the GrandBateses are adorable, I like Chad a lot, John seems annoying but no worse than any other and Brandon seems like he really wants to be a good husband and the perfect match for Michael (gay or not ;) )