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hi all <3

so back when season 2 first dropped, i happened to poke my head into the tags too soon and saw a post that i didn’t agree with, saying something about how terrible Wilhelm and Simon’s communication was in s2. respectfully, i just removed myself from the tags, but it had struck a chord in me. so naturally i rewatched s2 immediately and hand-wrote 14 pages looking at how their communication actually was through the season.

it’s now a little over a month and many, many rewatches later, but having been encouraged by @missmeganlee, i have decided to share with you all! i have transferred the original thoughts directly from my yr book and onto here, so these are written exactly as i first wrote them back on Nov. 2.

i do want to clarify that this isn’t an analysis post, it’s more of an observations post. the main purpose was to go through almost every interaction Wilhelm and Simon had in season 2 and to point out their communication throughout. although it’s not something i would ever send directly to the person who inspired it, it pretty much is a direct response to that post. it’s more of a breakdown pointing things out than an analysis about why or who or what or how.

affectionately titled “’Wilmon bad communication’: Kiss My Ass”, here you go:

Episode 1

(34:00) - The Library Scene

Simon tells Wille what he wants (to not talk) and explains that it’s not forever, just for now

Wille expresses why he doesn’t want that (“you’re the only one I can talk to”)

But Simon tells Wille that he hurt him, which Wille doesn’t deny

Simon says “I can’t be around you right now” which establishes how he feels and sets a boundary

“Tell me what to do” Wille wants to fix it but doesn’t know how. It’s a last effort to get Simon to stay, but ultimately when he doesn’t, Wille let’s him walk away, respecting the boundary

Episode 2

(1:04) - Walking away from the music room

Wille is still respecting the boundary

(5:19) - Not passing to him in gym class

Petty, but still the boundary

(7:12) - In the classroom

Wille asks Simon before sitting, even though there is no where else

Petty bitch

“I’m just trying to be honest about my feelings. Maybe you should try it.” Also petty, but it’s a good message. Simon doesn’t feel like WIlle is honest or clear, so he tells him that it’s a problem.

Wille looks properly chastised after, meaning he’s considering what Simon said and realizing he was right.

(16:50) - In the locker room

Wille is now expressing how he feels about Simon’s behavior (“You don’t care, you just shut down.”)

Clarification!!! Simon explains what actually happened (“I went to the principal. Now I’ll get detention.”)

Wille apologizes for getting mad AND thanks Simon for trying to help

They discuss what happened, putting them both on the same page (to an extent)

Wille tells Simon that they can have a relationship and explains the situation around it (“Two years it would have to be a secret”)

Wille makes it clear that he wants to be together again now

Simon stops Wille and asks for clarification

Hi Henry

Simon expresses his problems with the situation (waiting two years and Wille’s denying the video) as well as his lack if trust in Wille

Restates what he needs/wants (not to be a secret)

Explains a new boundary (talking at school)

Wille clarifies what this means. “As friends, then?” and Simon confirms. SAME PAGE.

Episode 3

(2:47) - At rowing practice

Wille checking on Simon when he sees he’s upset

Simon being honest about the reasons, including his displeasure in the difference in how they are treated

Wille apologizes (roughly, but he does) and explains his reasoning

(11:05) - Doing homework in the cafe

Wille expressing that he felt lied to, even though, as Simon clarifies, he was told the truth

Wille asking (...telling) Simon to just speak plainly

Simon does

Wille accepts Simon’s answer without a fight

Simon decides on his own to further clarify that he and Marcus aren’t dating, as well as telling Wille that it “isn’t his business” which is another boundary of sorts

Episode 4

(general)

No prior communication from either side regarding Marcus and Felice

(10:02) - In the locker room

Simon opens up with anger, but he immediately is explaining why he’s mad

Wille acknowledges that Simon is upset and validates his anger (“I get that it’s hard”) but he also points out Simon’s hypocrisy

Wille expresses his own anger and why

Wille again asks Simon for a clear, simple answer. Simon shrugs (which isn’t clear, but given Simon’s whole situation, I’m pretty sure it was honest)

Simon explains how he feel with Marcus (“He’s open about liking me/he introduces me to his friends/etc.”)

Wille is defensive. He can’t deny the first one, but he does the others.

“He accepts me the way I am.” “And I don’t? You’re the one who can’t accept my role, my family!” “No, maybe I can’t” (Now Simon is being hypocritical again) But Simon is being brutally honest. He does have trouble accepting that Wille is the Crown Prince. Painful, but he still lets Wille know it’s an issue.

(36:35) - At the ball

Simon is honest in expressing that the interaction with Marcus felt weird

Wille is honest in assuring him it was just him being polite

Wille explicitly states his observations and new intentions (“You don’t love me anymore. I’ll leave you alone.”) While this observation isn’t accurate (Simon does still love him) Wille believes it is, so he’s again being honest.

He is also acknowledging that Simon wants to move on and clearly stating that he will stop pushing or trying to get Simon to take him back

(40:05) - At the ball, outside

Wille is intentionally ignoring Simon at first, until Simon catches up

Simon states that he is trying to move on and Wille accepts it

“Everything just went wrong between us.” “I know.” Simon is telling Wille that their breakup wasn’t because of loss or lack of feelings, and again Wille accepts that

Simon is the one to initiate the kiss

He also leaves Wille without talking about it

Episode 5

(7:55) - The classroom

Our second lack of communication

Wille believing that their kiss means that they are on good terms, when Simon is still just as confused, as a result of them not yet discussing it

We also have Simon shutting down when Wille asks if something happened, where before he had answered

(8:45) - The music room

Once again, we have Wille reaching out to see if Simon is okay or why he is upset (this is Wille explicitly trying to have good, open communication with Simon)

Simon is once again brutally honest about his feelings in the moment (“It feels like when you enter the picture, everything I do turns into a problem.”) Which isn’t fair to Wille, but it is how Simon feels

Now Wille is searching for clarification of the results of the kiss, through explaining his own assumptions

(also to note: “You… we kissed each other.” he is intentionally taking part of the blame, as opposed to just blaming Simon for what happened.)

Simon clarifies that it’s about more than the kiss and tells Wille why he is upset (can’t sing his song, no association w/ Wille)

Wille states that this isn’t his fault, and it’s not, but Simon explains the reason is still because of Wille (“The song is about you.”)

Simon brings up some of what is probably an older truth: “How long will I be punished for the video?”

He then assumes that Wille hasn’t had problems because of the video

Wille is, again, defensive

Simon turns around to acknowledge that things were bad “for a while” but again assumes that just since he hasn’t seen it, that Wille isn’t still affected

Wille tells him that he doesn’t know how he’s been affected by it

Now he tries to direct Simon’s anger towards who posted it, since they are the one at fault

Simon does acknowledge that as well, but makes it clear he’s still getting the majority of the shit for it

Simon expresses his thoughts on the kiss now (“[it] was a mistake.”) and tries to leave

Finally, we have Wille telling Simon who posted the video!

Wille tries to explain what has been done as punishment

Simon asks when Wille found out. He doesn’t answer.

Simon asks that he didn’t want to tell him. Wille says he did, but tries to justify why he didn’t (“I was trying to protect you.”)

Simon expresses what he has assumed of Wille’s actions (“You were protecting him.”)

Wille explains why Simon’s plan wouldn’t work (August’s protections)

Simon is getting angry. He points out the way Wille is separating himself from the others (the Royal Court)

Simon tells Wille how he’s acting just like his mother. He leaves.

Wille tries to stop him, because he wants to talk it out as opposed to leaving it on bad terms, but he doesn’t stop. Wille still let’s him walk away.

(25:09) - Outside Simon’s house (gods i love this scene)

Wille opens with an apology. This shows that he knows he hurt Simon by not telling him before, and he’s acknowledging that hurt.

Then we have Wille explaining the ENTIRE situation, as he knows it, as well as the most likely results of each option AND how he personally feels

Simon looks for clarification that this isn’t Wille trying to convince him not to

Wille says no. Tells him it’s his choice.

“I just wanted you to know. This is the situation. This is how I feel.” HOW CAN YOU SAY “THEY HAVE BAD COMMUNICATION” AFTER HEARING THAT?? sorry

(30:01) - In the study group

Communication through book analysis <3

Someone else put this much better than I can ( @stygianirondiangelo !!!) , but basically it’s Wille acknowledging his mistakes and how they were affected by his title and how it hurt Simon, and Simon acknowledging that Wille’s background is important and it’s hard

“Not everything is bad.”

(34:11) - Study group

Simon is forthright with Wille about his decision

(36:05) - From the classroom

Simon directly asks if Wille is mad at him for his decision

(36:43) - Wille’s room

Now we have Simon checking in on how Wille is feeling (I think… this is the first time all season)

Wille is honest about both reasons he didn’t feel well (the speech and August)

Simon makes it clear that it isn’t to hurt Wille

Wille acknowledges that, and further explains that he isn’t trying to change Simon’s mind. That it is Simon’s choice.

Wille also admits to being afraid anyway, because of what it means

Simon validates that and let’s Wille know that he’s not alone in the fear

“What will happen to us?” “I don’t know.” (a question that should have been asked at the end of episode 4. I digress.)

But now we have Wille looking for a clear direction and wanting them to be on the same page, paired with Simon’s raw honesty of not knowing and not pretending he does

Episode 6

(00:14) - Wille’s room

Clear communication from Simon as to when he’s meeting his mother, and that he has something else to do, even if he doesn’t say what

SAME PAGE

(12:40) - Outside the school

Wille’s immediate reaction to August’s threats is to tell Simon everything August had told him

SAME. PAGE. Again. Wille is no longer keeping any of this from Simon

(13:38) - The hallway in Forest Ridge and the shooting range

Wille and Simon are both going to confront August together, as opposed to Wille trying to handle it or “protect” Simon

(18:10) - Road to Hillerska

This is communication, too

Wille is asking Simon to wait because Wille wants to talk it through

But Simon tells Wille “I just want to go home” and Wille lets him

(side note: Simon needs space after conflict while Wille wants to talk it through so it doesn’t stay)

(32:19) - In their hallway

Simon starts by expressing his feelings on the situation

“I want to be with you.” Now Simon is clearly stating what he wants, and further clarifies that he fully understands what that entails but he still wants it

“I love you.” Again, making his feelings perfectly clear.

#it's 14 pages in my book but only about 5 on the computer lmao #in classic Abram fashion there are timestamps. it's so funny bc the timestamps are all i put in my yr #so TECHNICALLY the addition of the locations was NOT in my yr book but i wanted to make it more clear #as to what scenes i was talking about #...........what does it say about me that i didn't have to check at all to know what was happening in every scene?#again this was on my third watch maybe so i was still greatly distracted #and i am sure there are things i missed that could have been included #but well <3 it is what it is #young royals #young royals analysis #tho like i said it isn't really #wilhelm yr #simon eriksson #wilmon #yr s2 #young royals s2 #shh ac

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