#Yoonmin Tweet

[yoontastic]

[5and3nevermind]

Sharing a thread from twitter

[jimpagne]

A Jikooker rting a Taekook fic...

Hello everyone, long time no see. You're about to see me enter into rant territory, and I sincerely apologize, but I really need to get this off my chest because I am dumbfounded by this situation. I also might piss off a few jikookers, but I don't care. This is insane.

For some of you who may not be aware, a popular Jikook content account on twitter decided to repost a taekook fanfiction from one of their friends, a prominent BTS fanfiction writer by the name of yoonminology. Now, this caused extreme outrage among Jikookers, so much so that they bullied every single one of the parties involved, claiming that the Jikook account was endorsing toxic Taekookers and that yoonminology was also in support of Jimin anti accounts.

This caused the jikook account to deactivate because of how bad the bullying had become.

So, let's sum a few things up.

From what I understand, this jikook account is a friend of yoonminology, and they were expressing their support for them because they probably spent a long time writing that fic. Writing takes FOREVER, it is an exhausting yet rewarding skill, so fic writers often feel happy when they receive love and support on their works.

2. yoonminology is a multi-ship account who writes BTS fanfictions for multiple ships -- including jikook. The BTS writing space is one that I'm involved in, and this writer is well known and beloved by the community, including very popular jikook fic writers.

3. yoonminology apparently retweeted/liked a comment from someone hyping up their newest taekook fic, and this person just so happened to be a taekooker who was involved in liking hate tweets against Jimin.

4. yoonminology has never personally expressed anti-Jimin views or anti-Jikook views. For fuck's sake, they have written MULTIPLE Jikook fanfictions.

Now, I don't know why Jikookers suddenly jumped these people as badly as they did... it literally takes two seconds of common sense to realize what had happened here. Whether or not you think a jikook account should be retweeting taekook content, that's kind of an irrelevant point when it comes to the scale of bullying these people experienced.

I used to run a pretty popular writing account on twitter way back in the day, and whenever people would leave nice comments or would express excitement for my fics, I would regularly like their posts and retweet what they said. I did not individually do a background check on each person I retweeted, because that would take forever. For all I knew, these people were just happy to see a piece of media that tapped into their interests.

I believe that's what happened here, they wrote a taekook fanfiction, which in turn invites taekookers to their page, this taekooker hyped up their tweet, they liked it... end of story. If they were a Jimin anti, I promise you that most of the HUGE jikook writing accounts that support this author would not be their friend...

Jikookers, we have a problem.

I know Jikookers often like to take the moral high ground, saying that Taekookers tend to be some of the most vile people out there. Yes, in certain situations, this can be true, but a lot of these people fail to understand that not every single Taekooker is evil, not every single person who engages in Taekook content HATES Jimin or despises Jikook.

Believe it or not, a lot of writers like to write for different BTS pairings, not because they think they're real, but because they simply like the dynamic that they can creatively play with. Trust me, I used to read vmin and yoonkook fics without ever thinking that they're a thing... Fanfiction is fiction. It's not real. Should we stone the creators of Chakho or HYYH because they dared to put BTS in an alternate universe?

Fanfic writers are NOT responsible for people who cannot distinguish between fiction and reality.

But anyways, as you can see, yoonminology is a multi-ship account, they write Jikook, Taekook, Yoonkook, Yoonmin... the whole lot. This actually became another issue among these "morally superior" Jikookers, because they claimed that because yoonminology is a multi-shipper, that they don't actually really care about nor appreciate Jimin and Jungkook's bond, and that they merely fetishize it for clicks when convenient.

I was scrolling through these tweets wondering when this crazy coke rant would end.

You would be surprised by the amount of creatives in the Bangtan community, especially that of Jikook spaces, that regularly support other creators who are not Jikookers. Because it's a healthy thing to do, actually. Some of these very famous and popular Jikook content creators actually do comms for other pairings all the time!

Actually because of this entire fanfic ordeal, you have people doing witch hunts against other people for merely interacting with taekook content/art (like stopkookminpls/koousagi). Like, do you not realize how fucking crazy that is?

May I remind you that taekook as a pairing and as a concept are not responsible for Jimin's hate -- that stems from individuals who are deluded and severely mentally ill. Taehyung and Jungkook aren't asking for the people who ship them to bully their other bandmate. Sure, a lot of Jimin's haters end up being taekookers, but that doesnt mean every single person who partakes in taekook content is an active participant in all of that!

I was friends with a taekooker for multiple years and she was lovely, she wouldn't dream of hurting Jimin and loved him just as equally. These people exist, and although it's fun to point out the deluded mannerisms of the "the cult", not every single person who likes taekook engages in such behavior.

Use common sense!

Jimin and Jungkook are not just a ship.

Another issue I think we need to seriously address in this community is the "shipification" of nearly everything that Jimin and Jungkook does. I don't mean regular "omg they're so cute together" or whatever... I'm talking about the incessant need to make every single thing that they do about their existence as a ship, rather than their general existence as people.

You can see this massive shipification happen when Taehyung went to Jeju with them for Are You Sure?!, because for whatever reason, instead of some Jikookers being content with the personal decisions that Jimin and Jungkook had made (obviously being okay with him coming), they decided to form massive hate trains against Taehyung. All because he had decided to "crash" Jimin and Jungkook's vacation. All because he decided to get in the way of their ship. Some Jikookers said that they felt like skipping the Jeju episodes just because Taehyung was there... like are you serious?

Jimin is Taehyung's friend. Jungkook is Taehyung's friend. The fact that some Jikookers talk about how "the cult" sees Jimin as a persistent threat, yet they also ironically feel threatened by Taehyung's presence.

The hypocrisy.

I think if these people want to act like they have the high ground, they need to actually behave accordingly. This type of outrage over a friend supporting a friend who did no harm is absolutely insane. The way many people in this fandom treat fan artists and writers is disgusting. These people put out works for FREE. FOR. FREE. And yet these people have the audacity to bully them into deactivating.

Go out and touch grass. Fucking hell.

[mrs-monaghan]

Can you show me jungkook being the best boyfriend ever

What tf kinda difficult question is this??? JK is an amazing fucking boyfriend. He shows up. This👏🏾 motherfucker 👏🏾shows👏🏾 up👏🏾 He puts the standard so high, making it look like we are all getting treated by our partners like garbage. This dude loves Jimin so much and has always been there for him in so many ways big and small and you want me to pick one moment?

Oh. Unless u didn't mean just one moment in which case forget all that 😁😁😁 here. Have this Jimtiddie as an apology

Tweet

Off the top of my head my dear anon;

Exhibit a) Dieting

So once upon a time, I'm sure we all know the story of how JK got Jimin to stop dieting unhealthily.

(Thanks @sarah2711)

Exhibit b) The live they did after their UN speeches.

V is the one who starts the whole thing by making fun of Jimin apologising after he made his mistake during his speech. (I already talk about JK being there for Jimin here) Other members chime in and at first Jimin is laughing with them. But then at some point he stops laughing, just sits there as they continue to make fun of him. Then he starts chewing on his nails which alot of the time is a sign of nerves

And he absolutely shrinks in on himself. Of course JK notices immediately and that's when he tells the members to cut it out. He tells them how they should be making Jimin feel better. Not making fun of him. Immediately all the members, at the same time, backtrack. They start praising Jimin and saying how they get it.

The whole thing is too long to clip but it all starts at 12:32 here

Because we don't talk about Yoonmin 😏 we have to note that all of them made fun of Jimin but JK only spoke up after Suga said this

🤭🤭

P.s RM also said something but the members only changed their tune after JK did. I have always found this moment so sweet. JK was being protective of his baby here of course. Which goes hand in hand with this post. JK just wasn't having it and I love to see it.

When Jimin was explaining himself,

JK was quietly listening. He didn't say anything until Jimin said this

And we all know JK doesn't like when Jimin is being self deprecating. So it tracks that he comfortingly says;

That, right there anon, was JK showing up like the amazing boyfriend he is.

Bonus with the Jimin jealous moment here. And yes, thats exactly what it was.

More instances of JK being protective of his bf by Kanmom here

Exhibit c) SEVEN

Yes. Seven. The summer song of the year. Love to watch it. Love to hear it. So, I think we can all agree its a sex song. Period. That's what it is. It's a proper love making song. A topic we love to discuss on this side of tumblr.... but, have we stopped for a second to explore the romantic side of SEVEN?

So we established SEVEN is basically satellite Jeon in a nutshell. Which that alone is quite big. Always wanting to be with your person, next to your person no matter what. But JK chasing after his love interest from beginning to end till she gives in shows;

He would do anything for the one he loves. He would walk through fire. Through storms. Go anywhere... if it means its for the one he loves. He is devoted, he is all in. Deeper than the ocean. And this is basically what this post is all about, really. JK's devotion for Jimin. Deeper than the God damn ocean.

Then we have this part

For those who dont know what that means by now, I'll give u a few seconds to go look up the meaning on Google. In the meantime the rest of us will enjoy this cute clip of satellite Jeon who started quite early

Oh you're back! Yes. We can proceed. 😁😁

So what we have discovered is that JK is a generous lover... a considerate lover... Puts his partner first. JK is a "it's okay baby, you can tend to me later, this is about you" kind of guy. He is the "I won't come until you've cum" type of dude.

In other words, his lover is the priority.

Now.

Jikook don't have an only fans so we haven't seen this in action and there4 have no way of knowing that JK is like this in the bedroom. BUT, considering the fact that he prioritises Jimin all the time, we have seen this happen, I dont see why we can't assume this part of him extends to the bedroom too! Right? Like, its gotta be the case.

JK would rather loose provided Jimin wins.

JK always prefering to walk slightly behind Jimin

JK would rather miss out on the last dish and let Jimin have it. (And we know this is huge coz mans loves his food)

Just to give 3 examples that show JK when it comes to Jimin... well, u know. Jimin comes first. Literally and figuratively 😏 So I'm gonna go ahead and politely insist 😂 that the same happens during Sevening. Mkay? Glad we agree 😁😁

Exhibit d) JK always looking to praise Jimin.

(Thanks @tarheelthings)

Jimin made the group ramen (his specialty) and as u can see JK was already telling him how perfect it tastes and yet he hadn't even tasted it yet. Even editors noticed 😂😂

Bv 1 finale no one praises Jimin's santa and he laments as much.

We know our Mimi loves to be complimented and praised; absolutely feeds off of that shit. And JK knows this which is why he immediately tells Jimin "yours is the best" Jimin is so happy to hear this, cheeses so hard that even the editors notice.

Gosh... he was so happy 🥺🥺 Jimin has a praise kink and JK is great at fulfilling this. Aaah. Shit. Now I'm wondering if this extends to the bedroom 🤔 I'm pretty sure it does 🙈🙈🙈

Okay ✋🏽 let's stop thinking about JK calling Jimin a good boy and move on, yes?

Btw, RM too recognises that Jimin loves to be praised and u will see him come through too. But JK is always faster so... 😁😁

Then we have ITS when JK tasted Jimin's food, once again, high praises.

And then when when Jimin says

JK replied "I know."

Something about this moment drives home to me the fact that Jimin doesn't cook well, at home. JK does. But we already knew this from Jin ("Jungkook is Jimin's chef")

On the topic of praises, when other members try to make fun of Jimin JK will quickly make sure Jimin knows he doesn't feel the same way. This and exhibit b are like sisters. They can go hand in hand 😆

So Bon Voyage season 1 Jimin was cooking for Jin. As soon as Jimin placed the plate on the table JK did not once take his eyes off of it.

And, this was after JK kept going to keep an eye on Jimin cooking even though they weren't team mates or nothing. I'm telling y'all, Jimin sits pretty at home while JK does all the cooking. Anyway, when Jin tastes the food he says;

But the way he says it, its like he's taking the piss. It wasn't complimentary. So JK of course went;

And he couldn't get to that dish fast enough

And he devoured the rest of it

While the rest, mind you, are still making fun of Jimin/his dish. But JK didn't give a shit. His baby had made that plate and by God he was going to enjoy every second of it.

Once again, to me, this cements my theory that JK doesn't get to eat Jimin's food often. He gets way too excited when Jimin cooks, can't wait to taste his food, etc etc.

Which brings us to our next example where one time Jimin brought the entire group cucumber drinks and they hated it. Jhope goes on to explain just how much they hated the flavor.

There is a chorus of all the members agreeing with Jhope and even Jimin accepts that the cucumber drinks were terrible. But low and behold, look what the boyfriend had to say about it

Timestamp 4:12 so u can see for yourselves just how much everyone hated those drinks.

(Thanks @tarheelthings and @chicknbunny13)

Look, in JK's eyes, Jimin can do no wrong, okay? To JK, Jimin is perfect and that's that. End of story: No further questions. This behaviour is what I was talking about on my whipped post here.

Exhibit e) When JK checks on Jimin.

I don't gotta show many examples of this we've all seen it. JK always craning his neck over members to see what Jimin is up to. He always likes to know where Jimin is, what he's doing, which imo is amazing boyfriend behavior if u ask me.

A moment I've never seen talked about anywhere from BV 1; JK comes into the RV to check on Jimin who's sleeping.

I know he came to check on Jimin because he walks in, takes a peak, then walks back out. Almost like he had confirmed Jimin was okay and now he could go about his business.

Tell me thats not the sweetest, cutest thing ever!

I've just uploaded 31 images n a video. I don't think tumblr likes me enough to allow me to do more so let's stop here. I hope your Jungkook praise kink has been fulfilled. It was my pleasure.😁😁

He really is a good man. The best. And Jimin deserves nothing less 😍😍😍

[stormblessed95]

https://x.com/YooniesSquish/status/1839005207000228054?t=G60Q2sDyFzEx98RR9lFtWQ&s=19

I just love the way this Fandom is so respectful towards jimin. I love how they made a whole au out of the hate jm was receiving after tweeting "Fans are getting brave watch me write their fav chock on yg's dick" damn. The kind of Fandom jimin has and people wonder why his fans are more protective towards him cause if left up to the Fandom this is what goes on here. You write a fic out of it.

I'm pretty sure the fic was in response to the protect BTS accounts and the fans getting up in arms about policing fanart, fanfic and any/all nsfw accounts. Not any hate that Jimin is getting in particular. It was a yoonmin fic because they are a yoonmin ship account. What else would they write? And honestly, people DONT get to police other people art. That protect account ISN'T protecting anyone or doing the right thing.

There is enough hate and death threats (?!?) going on that everyone wants to get up in arms about policing fandom now?? People are saying no fancams? Or concert streams? No fanart no fanfic? I learned recently that some baby ARMYs have started discourse that even having a bias is bad and makes you not OT7. Do you understand how insane all this fandom policing is?

BTS enjoys it themselves too. If you don't like the fandom, don't like participating in what the fandom is, don't. Don't do it, don't engage with it. But you don't get to try and change it and police others. Jimin's own back tattoo literally came from a fanart that could've been considered NSFW by some. BTS saw it, and Jimin loved it enough to actually put it on his body for real forever. Baby ARMYs haven't experienced the fandom enough to have discourse over it, that bias thing is so upsetting and ridiculous.

Let them "fight back" against the fandom policing anything NSFW in a silly au fic that doesn't harm anything or anyone. If you don't like it, don't read it. But that wasn't about all the other hate Jimin has been getting. Although I guess I can't know that for sure, but you could always comment and ask them what hate they are responding to instead of assuming the worst because you don't like the phrase "have your fave choke on some dick" (and not in a hateful way but a sex way). I went and found that tweet too. I read the short au, not something I would ever seek out, read again or normally engage with, I have no interest in their account, but the fic itself had nothing bad in it at all either.

Maybe it's me and I'm missing something. I don't understand the outrage over this fic though. I just think people need to learn the skill of if you don't like something, don't engage with it.

[mediapiays]

https://x.com/YooniesSquish/status/1839064131166679548

there is something seriously wrong with this fuck ass fandom defending explicit art and fics of the members.

Now idk how u can make a tweet like that and think you're a well adjusted individual that's fit to participate in society with the rest of us.

And this being a yoonminer makes this even more funny bc I KNOW they hate the whole cold, mean and lazy stereotype that plagued yoongi a few years back because of fics and fandom narratives.

[struggle-but-its-all-ocean-floor]

You're not the only one who thinks that way about taehyung being in the show there's many of us who feels the same. Cause it was our moment to get them together cause we know we won't see them together again for long time, we haven't seen them in 2023 as well. Then there's whole Fandom who's more excited about vmin and taekook than the two who's show it is. They already made the show about taekook and yoonmin yesterday. They had hit tweets after hit tweets saying hybe chose wrong ppl for the show cause it would have been yoonmin and taekook. they made the whole show about jikook missing Taehyung from whole 2 hrs vs 2min and got hit tweets about it as well. More ot7s are now posting about vminkook being in AYS than when they didn't post for AYS before.

It's gonna be chaotic. There's gonna be TK moments and tkkrs gonna use that all against jm saying he's thirdwheeling and I'm tired of this same shit.

Yeah... A lot of Jikookers have shown support for my post... I thought people would react somewhat negatively, but I think that: a) the lack of Jikook content and the happiness we felt from watching episodes 1 and 2 made us feel disappointed that V would intrude on our Jikook time, and b) the frustration and exhaustion Jikookers feel that Jikook are constantly ignored by the fandom, who is obsessed with Vmin, Yoonmin, Taekook, and the maknae line as a whole but never with Jikook... These two factors have naturally made us a bit defensive and bitter. Fandom drama always has an impact on how the fans view the artists even if they've done nothing wrong...

I actually didn't see those hate tweets, but I don't follow a lot of non-Jikookers, and the "official" JK solos that I follow for JK news and records stoically ignored the show altogether...

I've had fans comment that V acted wrong and that he "sabotages" Jikook on purpose, but I'm not sure that's true. I don't really believe that about V. He has no reason to sabotage Jikook. Am I being naive? He loves Jikook and he's a nice person...

Thanks for the ask!

[not-goldy]

I had tweeted “Honestly, is it worth being a Tkker when you have to shit on some that both half’s of your ship love? Is it worth being a Tkker when you have to cut out a member just to manipulate yourself and your fellow cultist?” And the tweeted “Is it worth be a Tkker when you have to have a thousand narratives because reality shows you a different story? Being a Tkker sounds hard and not worth the energy” on twitter and my god when I say Taekookers stalk Jkkers, I mean they stalk us. I ain’t never had a Tkker interact with my tweets and I sometimes make tweets say Taekookers instead of Tkkers. Yet that tweet is the tweet that bothered them? I have made tweets directly calling them out and not a single interaction from a Tkker. Me telling the truth really hit a nerve. They only interacted with the second tweet but not the tweet saying how shit on Jm (whom Tae and Jk loves) is not worth it and etc. They are truly so self aware but just refuse to admit they are insane for their behavior and that Tae and Jk gets dragged all because of them.

Sorry you had to deal with that.

One time I called their ship dead they sent out dog whistles to their cult claiming I was issuing death threats to Tae and Jk. That didn't piss me off, I'm used to Tuktukkers I usd to be in the yoonmin spaces and group chats so I know what Tuktukkers is all about. It's the jokers who jumped on the hate wagon ganging up with the Tuktukkers to fight me that got on my nerves.

Becareful out there okay. If you are going to go after that cult be sure you doing it for the right reasons because it's what you want and you are standing up for your truth. And don't count on nobody to get your back. Because sometimes you would have to fight jokers too cos most of them are phony panders who do things for clout to perform for the circus and to make themselves seem likeable.

I always say I'm in this alone, it's me and Jikook against the world. No one else matters to me. And I sleep well at night knowing I fight a good fight.

Next time they come for you call me. I got your back.

Ready for a fight any day. For the gays and country.

Be safe.

[snowpetaly]

You can't tame me 🖤🩰

Yoonmin moodboard inspired by this tweet

moodboard is free to use 🤍 credits are welcome

[akookminsupporter]

I got on reddit a couple of months ago and I discovered that while many people are neutral about bts or even dislike them, most of them are really polite and nice about it, and most discourse about bts is in a positive or neutral light. It's not like twitter where they call them flops in every 2 tweets. So it's similar to tumblr because people can have normal conversations (most of the time) about kpop groups there. Of course there are trolls and straight up haters there too but they either get downvoted very hard or deleted so it's I think better. Anyway my point is that I go on reddit today to see what people are talking about because I only check reddit like 2-3 times a week. And the first post is literally someone asking why bighit is pushing jikook out of all the ships.. And I just sat here blinking at the screen because... Really? We are having this conversation AGAIN? It wasn't even in the bangtan channel/sub, it was in a kpop sub where you can talk about any group. But then I read the whole post and it was very clear OP was one of those people who don't watch official content and just lives off of clips that are posted in the first 24 hours. There are not a lot of comments right now but all of them are very normal and lowkey calling out OP for being stupid so I upvoted all of them 😂

But like every fucking time a DVD comes out and we have footage from multiple days or even months and we see jikook hanging out and do their thing, EVERY DAMN TIME we have this same ass conversation. Every time it's fanservice every time it's "why are they together" every time it's "why is bh pushing them" MF IT'S BEEN YEARS OF THIS. Don't these people think that if you see them, CONSISTENTLY hang out with each other EVERY YEAR, don't you think that maybe... Just maybe they like hanging out and being in each others company???

Even if you take shipping completely out of the picture. Like don't you think its fucking weird to see two people who have known each other for 11 years, went through some insane shit together and even more that WE as FANS probably don't even know about, they clearly support and love each other and like hanging out with each other... And then you go on social media and tweet: "why do people, who are friends, spend time together?" DO YOU EVEN HEAR YOURSELF. I need someone to go up to these people when they are out with their friends and ask them if they secretly hate each other and only hang out just to please their parents or something.

You don't need to ship jikook to see they like each other. You don't need to ship taekook to see they like each other. You don't need to ship anyone in bangtan to see that they love each other to the moon and back. These men are in each others asses 24/7 but sure, the company is pushing them to do fanservice because they don't make enough money or something. Whether you (not you specifically) think jikook or taekook or yoonmin or anyone is dating or not, that's your business. If you ship them, you ship them, if you don't, you don't. But you literally cannot fucking walk up to me, look me in the eye and tell me they don't like each other. These boys are first and foremost FRIENDS And if you see any of them together, it's because THEY WANT TO SPEND TIME WITH EACH OTHER.

I don't know why it's so hard for some people to understand this. Maybe because fanservice is a normal? thing in Korea and I'm sure many groups are doing it. But I checked OPs post and comment history and they follow bts for a while now so they have to know that the tannies have moved past/moved away from doing typical kpop things loooooong ago. They are not your typical kpop group. Two members hanging out with each other in front of or behind camera is not fanservice. Can we fucking wrap this conversation up already, I'm so bored of seeing this being brought up every year. Sorry for the long essay 😔

When it comes to Jimin and Jungkook, people would always prefer to believe anything but the truth, reality and what they themselves say. Wait till whatever they are doing comes out, it will be all this again and even worse.

Opinions.

[chevelleneech]

https://www.tumblr.com/chevelleneech/757738833363222528/anyone-who-read-its-an-11-on-a-gay-scale-needs-to

It’s not that serious, many of us are just having fun…

idk why we have to be extra cautious when it comes to Jikook content when the fandom can have a blast whenever certain pairs interact and call namkook or Yoonmin or whoever else married over the smallest interaction and go crazy for hours on main but we have to write x amount of warnings and being reasonable and all

unpopular opinion maybe but having to constantly tiptoe around Jikook content to make sure I’m not misinterpreted just kills all the fun for me to the point i don’t even post about them on my account anymore

It’s shipping after all, it’s not that big of a deal, or is it? can’t we just have fun and go a bit crazy this time?

To you, anon, as well as @felixdoriga. I was writing my reply to Felixdoriga as this came in, so I’m adding it here for both. (I am in no way insinuating Felixdoriga is the same person as anon.)

The short answer. I’m not saying be cautious nor am I taking things overly literal. I’m just saying, be realistic now, so later, no one circles back and blames each other for being let down.

No amount of queerness between two active duty soldiers in a reality show being aired on Disney+, is going to break a “gay scale” more than anything we’ve already seen. And since we already know how Jimin and Jungkook can get, it is odd to me that someone would insinuate they’re even more gay within the first two episodes of their travel series.

Below is the long answer, since I like to explain myself as thoroughly as possible.

To Felixdoriga: I don’t think I’m looking too much into it, since I also read their thread that is pretty much nothing but insinuations that Jimin and JK are going extra wild with their interactions.

That said, in the post anon is messaging me about, I make a point of saying someone else’s excitement will not be the same as another’s. Meaning, I think it’s important for everyone to manage their expectations and not run to blame the tweeter if the hype doesn’t match up with what they were expecting based on the reaction thread. However, the reason I said what I said in my response, is because I do genuinely believe that acting as if they are giving an 11 out of 10 on the gay scale, is ridiculous and could stem from straight up lying or not viewing JM and JK as people outside the ship. Because every little interaction is not A Thing, it’s them being them.

Yes, that person may have a different numbering system from what I would consider an 11, but unless they live somewhere where queer interactions are extremely illegal and they have never seen Jikook interact with one another before, what could they possibly have done to break the scale? On a platform such as D+, whilst they are enlisted? The realistic answer is nothing, so why set that expectation when you know shipping fandoms can and do consist of many people who are unable to manage their own?

Why put that level of expectation out there at all, knowing people who hate JM and JK will take it and watch AYS in hopes of being able to “debunk” the thread, and claim it as you (the tweeter) lying to gain engagement clicks?

I understand the person was excited and presumably had a lot of fun watching the episodes, but I do think there were better ways to tweet about how much fun it looked like JM and JK were having, without putting themself in a no-win position if their 11 = sitting beside each other or constant hugging while playing a game. Because calling something an 11 on a scale from 1-10 is not just having a different numbering system. It’s making it clear something drastic happened, and without trying to rain on anyone’s parade, that to me is simply unlikely.

And to round out what the above anon is saying, I’m not suggesting anyone tip toe. I’m suggesting people don’t hype up what’s happening in their heads, based on a Twitter thread that is insinuating they were interacting in the utmost gay ways, to something more reasonable. Because that person is 100% going to be hit with hatred if the hype they built isn’t lived up to. And while Jikookers aren’t the rudest this fandom has seen by far, our subsection is not forever innocent of being hateful. There’s bad eggs here too, and people tend to lash out when they feel embarrassed.

We can be excited. We can hope to see them cuddling and giggling the entire time, because they are cute together and they do have fun together, but short of them being physically affectionate in the ways we have seen them before (ear suck and hickey) within the first two episodes, there is no reason to make people think that is what they’re going to see on the 8th.

I think that person could have tweeted with just as much enthusiasm without the exaggeration. Assuming it is, as I’m not saying they’re lying. I haven’t watched the show so I don’t know, but you all are super excited to see “breaking the gay scale” level of interactions, when all that person could mean is, “They constantly shared drinks.” Which couple’s absolutely do, but we’ve also seen all the members eat off the same fork plenty of times.

So no, don’t shut down your excitement, but be sure to manage it. They’re not going to do anything to break any metaphorical scale of gayness, no matter whose numbering system is being used.

I imagine they’re just going to be themselves as much as they can be, which for years has been sus enough. Again, we have seen them repeatedly choose each other for emotional and fun things. We’ve seen them flirt like hell in interviews and on live. We’ve seen JK suck on Jimin’s ear, in front of thousands of people. We’ve seen proof that Jimin put his mouth on Jungkook’s neck, until it left a mark. We’ve heard the other members teasing them about the things they say to and about each other, and more. So we have a perfectly good scale of our own to compare the series to already, and if nothing tops hickey or ear-in-mouth action or a live booty call in front of fans… there is no broken scale.

And me saying to manage expectations isn’t to say Jimin and JK will do less or that the show won’t be interesting. I’m just saying, we’ve seen a lot of questionable behavior from them, which is why insinuating they’ve done even crazier shit than what we’ve seen, doesn’t make sense.

So once again, I will absolutely eat my words if something wild and actually does happen, but realistically, knowing who JM and JK are and what they’ve done in the past… they would have to be extremely coupled up for me to think they broke any scale of gayness.

[yoontastic]

[5and3nevermind]

Yoonmin tweets from June 2014

🐥:

Suga hyung wore sunglasses? Trans cr; Ellie @ bts-trans

🐱:

Park Jimin how come you used pictures where you only turned out good. to be honest even when I look at it the left one is ugly (suddenly) your belief about me not having any pictures of you is a misunderstanding ke Trans cr; Ellie @ bts-trans

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Park Jimin a.k.a (ttanji) if you keep in mind of your social position I won't reveal the original picture if you get the counting wrong(?) I'll reveal it ke ke ke no one can stop me ke (x100) Trans cr; Ellie @ bts-trans

🐥:

Me well.. I guess you think I don't have any pictures of you ^^.. Trans cr; Ellie @ bts-trans

🐥: Adult Child's dance choreography came out today~ Didn't our Adult Child RapMon hyung and Syub-Syubie hyung who are still working come out cutely? kekekeke Fighting! Ah, Jin hyung also came out nicely kekeke - Sincerely, Jimin Trans cr; Nika @ bts-trans

🐱: I was producing then I came on twitter to have a look and realised that Jiminie's wearing the same clothes as me -.- Since he's excited chal-kak! *snap of photo*, we seem like a team even in our bones.. Ah I only temporarily brought the eyebrows to our dorm so don't misunderstand~ Trans cr; Denise @ bts-trans

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keke We finished making everything kekeke It’s nicer than we thought~ I think I made it better than the person behind me. Hm. #bangtanbirthdaymeal Trans cr; Nika @ bts-trans

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Didn’t even clean, he’s totally a king. King Min Yoongi. #bangtanbirthdaymeal Trans cr; Nika @ bts-trans

🐱: Hello it's Suga What "never even clean up" Ddanji uploaded it to make it look so but no no no he snapped and uploaded it after I had finished cleaning up and was resting. This is none other than the shortcoming of SNS, such plots. Trans cr; Denise @ bts-trans

🐱: *static noise* *. *static noise* * ... Ah, ah this is the cake team. Ah, ah this is the cake team. The cake we remade is really good *static noise* .... *static noise* .. Look forward to it *static noise* #bangtanbirthdaymeal Trans cr; Nika @ bts-trans

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The end of the day after rehearsing all day long Trans cr; Iraide @ bts-trans

…and we can’t forget these iconic tweets, also from June 2014, which included this darling pic:

[ask-serendipity-sky]

i hate it when ppl act like some of us are crazy for even considering the possibility of tae having ulterior motives for name-dropping jungkook constantly. especially with how frequently he does it and how painfully silent jungkook is in comparison.

they're always like "do you think tae knows how the fandom works and how shippers act?" it's not crazy to assume that he does. we're talking about the same man who sent jimin the fan art that made jimin get that moon phase tattoo on his back. that tweet wasn't even viral on army twt until tae confessed on live that he sent it to jimin. so yeah, the man obviously lurks in army spaces.

all the members do, namjoon just recently referenced army's "bts chapter two might not be so bad after all" in suchwita during a conversation about shirtless jungkook for CK. yoongi mentions jimin all the time. jimin mentions hobi, jin, namjoon and yoongi mostly because he knows that army will love to hear tidbits about the members’ current dynamics and he knows that his relationship with the previously mentioned members won't generate any negative reactions, unlike with taekook, where he doesn't mention them much unless directly asked about them. they know what the fandom's in and outs are. they might not know how bad it sometimes gets with shippers but they're 100% aware that shippers are lunatics who get mad at certain members (jimin) for the sake of ships.

dare i even say that jimin might be keeping his distance from the fandom lately because he knows exactly what type of freaks are out to get him online and in person? they leaked his mail last year ffs, and ever since jimin has built up walls around himself that he will possibly never lower again.

the members talk amongst each other about the fandom, they said it. they said that every conversation about their activities and their future always involves army. they always consider our reactions for anything they do. the company knows exactly which ships are popular and they try to push those (yoonmin, namjin, taekook). there's even a whole running joke in the fandom about bighit always stealing and copying army's ideas, they have staff that lurks and reports back about the inside dynamics and doings of the fandom. it's business 101. studying your audience.

so back to taehyung not knowing how tkkrs act; i firmly disagree. his audience mostly consists of taekookers and he knows it because whenever he comes online they're the ones who hog him the most. and i believe he's definitely aware how far they take the taekook ship, and who's their chosen #1 enemy; but he simply doesn't care. maybe he already discussed it with jimin himself and jimin told him to do whatever he wants and not blame himself for what the shippers say because jimin himself isn't allowing the hate to get to him by blocking them out. out of sight out of mind kind of thing. so maybe taehyung does what he believes is best for him, after making sure both jungkook and jimin are okay with it, and just doesn't wait around to see the chaos that unfolds. the way you choose to interpret his actions all boils down to what type of person you think he is.

my personal impression of taehyung is that he's a troll, he's reckless, impulsive, and he does what he likes/speaks his mind even if others disagree with it or misunderstand it. like him not stopping to greet fans at the airport, which was considered rude, but he did what he saw was best for his safety. or how he sometimes jokes with armys in a way that he be seen as offensive but he does it because he thinks of armys as his best friends. he even admitted to doing fan service before because he knows that armys will like it (when he kissed jin's cheek in run bts), so he's aware of the power of the ships that involve him. if he knows fans will like seeing him kiss jin on the cheek because they ship them, so he knows that fans like seeing taekook interactions as well; that's why he never keeps a taekook irl moment to himself and always comes online—even if for a minute—to let us know. to give the fans what they want (feeding them) and keep himself in the fandom's good graces. he's been doing it so much lately and it's definitely for a reason. jungkook is not the only member he meets, i'm sure of that. but he still only mentions jungkook. he tried giving us a vmin moment recently and we all know how much the fandom has been whining about the lack of vmin lately. i think he knew that, and he tried giving us something. but jimin arrived earlier and didn't wait for him, so.. it makes you wonder why he's targeting those two specific audiences (taekookers + vminers) and why does he so desperately want to be kept in their good graces (especially taekookers)...

he also knows that armys don't like blackpink and are fighting blinks all the time, and thus he's afraid about us knowing that he's dating jennie, so he deflects by mentioning jungkook because that's what his fans want to hear.

the bottom line is, i need people to stop acting like taehyung is some clueless child who doesn't know his audience and what they like to see. cause they're underestimating his intelligence. he's not a maliciously manipulative kind of guy, but he does love to troll. the problem is that his trolling has much bigger consequences than he might possibly comprehend and it's gonna backfire horribly solely on him in the future.

Hi anon,

First of all, I want to say that my issues with Tae come from being a fan of Jimin, not a believer of Jikook. To me Tae has never, will never and doesn't pose a threat to Jikook. Even before I loved Jimin, believed in Jikook, and knew all their names, I just didn't vibe with Tae (and a few others). I don't hate them at all, they are just not my type of people.

Also, my views and anon's views are fan's perspectives. We speak of what we see. Like anon said, maybe Tae, Jimin, and Jk are all cool with it and laugh at all this or maybe there is some tension there and hate each other. We don't know because all we have is the fan perspective. What is visible to us.

With that being said, I think the anons perspective is valid. Everything you said is something I agree with, anon.

It would be nice if people could act like adults and treat BTS as adults. BTS calls us out for the immature comments and stuff so I find it fair to call them out too. Besides, they are not infallible...as we have seen.

Tae is aware that his actions rile up his shippers (all his different types) and knows does what he needs to do in order to get his ship trending and therfore keep his supporters. But to be fair, I don't know if he is aware of much hate is created by riling up the delusionals. I don't think Tae is a bad guy. But there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that he is doing all this thinking from a business perspective and to protect his relationship with Jennie...I mean, what kind of protection is that? but ok.

But here is the thing anon, if we measure Tae's actions with this "ruler", then we have to measure all the members with the same ruler. This includes scrutinizing Jungkook's fanservice with Tae too and how that has contributed to the Jimin hate train. But no one wants to talk about that. I've yet to encounter anyone treating this topic fairly.

And that's why I think most (if not, all?) Jikookers won't openly talk about Tae's way of feeding his ship and his fan service galore or at least in a fair manner.

But yeah. People should stop acting like Tae is a clueless child...and all the members are clueless children.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts!

[mrs-monaghan]

Hi! Sorry if the question sounds weird…but I feel like this is a safe place to ask this.

How do you think Jikook handled their intimacy during The Soop, Bon Voyage etc? Also considering the ramen joke, the analysis going around about Jungkook putting on that jacket in BV and so on. Thank you!

I don't understand the question

But I think I get u. Maybe. I'm not sure. Okay we are gonna start from the beginning and I'm just gonna hope this is what u asked 🤭🤭

Bon Voyage season 1:

Well, we know JK ditches Suga to go sleep with Jimin in the living room. Which awwww 🥺🥺🥺

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BUT, I dont think the SEVENing took place in there. I'm thinking the laundry room. It would explain why they liked doing laundry so much 🤭🤭🤭

I imagine the boat would have been harder, too many people in one room. But if they wanted I'm sure they found a way 😁

Bon Voyage season 2:

This one is easy. They play for rooms, JK looses and he ain't happy to be sleeping on the couch. So Jimin sees his baby is sad n he naturally offers to switch

But JK chooses to sleep on the floor, turning down the offer. Surprising since he knows Yoonmin are sharing a bed. But maybe he'd rather not sleep with Suga 🤭 I'm kidding... I'm kidding 😂😂😂 This was probably JK's hyung kink at play where he likes to look after Jimin. So he'd rather be uncomfortable than have Jimin be uncomfortable.

Anyway, this is further down into episode 7 but u can see Yoonmin are in bed right before Jimin sneaks out the room.

You know he's not just leaving but sneaking out coz he's checking to see if Suga is asleep.

Justice for Suga. Jikook always be ditching him for eo 😂😂😂 anygays, seeing Jimin sneak out in ep 7 tells me he probably did it for the duration of their stay in that house. Coz in the next house, JK lost on purpose and they ended up sharing this room that we never saw the inside of

All we got was a sus photo of JK with smeared lipstick.

Anyone having flashbacks of Osaka Vlive?? 😂🤭 He he he heee...

Then we have the origin of Jikook doing laundry. Of course this is suspicious off the bat. But even more reason is because their stories weren't matching. According to JK, they stayed up till late doing laundry. So from him, they were doing laundry for most of the night.

But according to Jimin laundry was done in the morning???

Well, which is it Jikook????

Anon, these motherfuckers were SEVENing plenty in Hawaii. 👀

Bon Voyage season 3:

I don't really need to delve into this one, do I? Even the most out of touch person knows Jikook were sharing a room. I mean, Jimin was not only supposed to share a room with Suga and Jin, but he was supposed to share a bed with Jin. Now, why tf would he do that when his boyfriend had a room all to himself??

Anyway, analysis by Mizgator here. Timestamp 7:00

I also believe Jimin continued to sleep in that room even after V showed up. Jikook were on their honeymoon after all 🤭🤭🤭

Real talk though, this is what friends do for eo. Members have excused Jikook when they needed the privacy. That's just what people do. I know its bros before hoes, but who is the ho to V if both are his bros?? 😂

Moving on to Bon Voyage season 4:

I already covered how in the first house the SEVENing took place in the RV. So let's move on to camping. Now this is a bit hard to gauge when/where intimacy would have taken place. It was only 2 nights that they camped anyway, so maybe nothing happened during this time? BUT, like I will say many times during this post; it dont matter. If they wanted to SEVEN, it happened irregardless of location.

(There was however some camping sleeping drama that took place. I talk about that here. It has nothing to do with the topic at hand, I just like to bring it up coz I like drama 🤪)

Now onto the second and final house. First of all, we are going to quickly gloss over JK following Vhopemin into this room with all his luggage.

He has no business being there seeing as his roommate was RM. 🤦🏽‍♀️ Oh how satellite Jeon i do love you. 🤭🤭

So anygays, at some point you hear Jimin calling Jhope's name urgently

And then they start whispering and giggling like little kids.

Now that could just be Jihope well, Jihoping but this was when people were going to their rooms. I wouldn't put it past Jimin to enlist his bestfriend's help on Jikook getting a room to themselves at some point.

Like I've mentioned b4, cameras aren't always filming, and friends do each other these kinds of favors all the time. In any case this was a big ass house if Jikook wanted to get their groove on, they got it done.

I think we are good on the BVs so let's move onto In the Soops.

In The Soop season 1:

Here i talk about how JK used to spend the night in what was supposed to be Vmin's room. So that's that. Also if I was them I would have considered using that boat to SEVEN for sure. I hope they did. I mean, they wouldn't have to do nothing. Just let the waves do all the work

Mosquito net incident i dont think they did anything beyond making out, really. JK lost his hoodie, yeah. But Jimin looked the exact same way coming out like he did going in.

So clearly he didn't shed his clothes.

In The Soop season 2:

First there was Jimin's room. And then JK's and Bam's house... I can see it. Especially when JK asked Jimin if he wanted ramen and Jimin ran towards JK's house. I think he got his ramen 😏😏 Something tells me Jimin didn't actually leave, here.

He pretended to, but i don't think he did. I think he stayed and they either turned off the cams or covered them. But I've always had a feeling he didn't actually leave.

But while that's speculation, this however, I think this is a given---> I talk about the drone incident and them going to the forest/bushes 🤭 here. Why would they need to get rid of the camera unless they went to shout in each other's briefcases? 🤷🏽‍♀️ or even to SEVEN? One can get real creative on that ATV. Just saying... 😌😌😌

I knew it was game over because of the way Jimin looked at the camera here.

Look at his faceeeee

He was NOT a fan of that camera in that moment. It's giving flashbacks to this summer package

And then the way they both look at the camera again before taking off

He he heee.... if you ever watch these reality shows again just pay attention to how many times they glance at cameras. Its so funny. It's not really a surprise they waved away that drone for some privacy.

Thanks for the ask, anon. I believe that about covers it, yes?

[stormblessed95]

Stormie can you help solve a mystery for me? Just saw this on twitter and the comments are mostly yoonmin with a few saying jk but that looks like the top of Hobi’s head to me. Do you know the answer to the mystery of who was on Jimin’s boat😂?

https://x.com/bts_twt/status/454432757775474688?s=46&t=HjHCqQPqrS-gDmfxY-A1Eg

People are guessing Yoongi because of his hand lol and based off the way he ended his tweet with SyubSyub which was a nickname Yoongi used for himself and used to tag some of his tweets with. Even another Yoonmin photo with them saying this is Jimin and SyubSyub. You can see all those here:

https://x.com/search?q=from%3Abts_twt%20%EC%8A%99%EC%8A%99&t=G06RRUufIXqjP7w8Kl0NkQ&s=09

Also it says who is on my stomach, not boat. Lol Google translate always doing them dirty 😂🤣

So I'd probably guess Yoonmin too! My other guess would've been Tae if it's not Yoongi probably 🤷‍♀️