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“Mike can’t tell El he loves her because that’s a Wheeler trait”
You mean when Nancy couldn’t tell Steve she loved him? Stancy, who broke up? Or do you mean Karen and Ted? Karen and Ted, who according to Nancy, never loved each other?
I agree. It’s a Wheeler trait to be with people they don’t love in order to conform to societal norms. It’s a Wheeler trait to not be able to lie and say they love people when they don’t. It’s a Wheeler trait to be in unloving relationships. We agree on this.
#byler#byler endgame#mike wheeler#nancy wheeler#anti milkvan#anti mileven#stranger things#wheeler family#my beloved
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and what if we get a parallel to will and jonathan’s scene in s4 with mike and nancy… like is season 5 actually giving me everything i want?? am i actually getting an emotional bonding moment between mike and nancy??? this is so important to me i fear
#idc if the scene is about will or if it’s about their mom or holly ali care about is that they get the sibling moment they DESERVE#byler#mike wheeler#nancy wheeler#wheeler family#wheeler siblings#stranger things#stranger things 5#stranger things s5#stranger things season 5#st5#st5 production#st5 bts#stranger things bts#stranger things production
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Stranger Theories by my mom, part 1:
Holly's gonna go missing and the reason is because it's gonna draw the Wheelers into focus again.
Karen's child just went missing and she has no idea what's going on. She's terrified that her daughter is dead and she has no idea what she's gonna do about it. She feels like she's going crazy. Who else had this storyline? Joyce. Karen isn't going to be alone because Joyce understands. Karen won't be clueless because Joyce understands.
Nancy and Mike get to spend time with each other more and actually talk about the things they said they would back in s1. "No more secrets" never really came to fruition. This gives HUGE leeway for the audience to actually, finally, understand what's going on inside that bigass head of his. We could also see what Nancy thinks about the whole Steve vs Jonathan thing.
We get to see how all of this affects Ted Wheeler and actually understand who he is as a person, give him some flavor. Does he actually care about his family? I don't know but s5 can answer that now. Maybe he ends up leaving Hawkins, who knows. The point is that we have a definite answer now.
Holly is the catalyst for clearing the air in the Wheeler family. She can answer so many questions we as the audience have and I'm thankful for that.
My mom also made a great point that the town will respond incredibly different to Holly's disappearance. Will Byers is known as "the queer" who has a crazy mom and comes from a low class family. Yes, there were absolutely search parties out for Will, but we still saw so much bullying from people, too. People like Troy and Tommy H. are actually going to care about her because she's a pretty blond girl from a middle class family.
I'm very curious as to what the characters reactions of this are gonna be. Is Will gonna be sad that he didn't have this much attention on him? Is Mike gonna be sad? Is anybody going to notice at all?
I suppose I'll just stay on the edge of my seat for now.
(everybody thank my mom for this)
#stranger things#mike wheeler#holly wheeler#nancy wheeler#karen wheeler#ted wheeler#wheeler family#will byers#byler#st5#stranger things theory#stranger things 5#stranger things s5#st s5#st season 5#stranger things season 5#why are there so many versions of that lmao#joyce byers#forgot about her sorry#byler nation#< target audience
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#stranger things#texts from last night#my edit#nancy wheeler#natalia dyer#robin buckley#maya hawke#ronance#mentioned but not seen#karen wheeler#wheeler family#incorrect quotes#stranger things incorrect quotes#season 4#st 4
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"Mike can't say I love you because of his family!!"
Karen Wheeler, who has always asked and encouraged Mike to open up to her and always reminds him that she is there for him?
Ted Wheeler who despite not having much screentime does love and care for his family? Like did we not watch him take Karen and Holly to the fair in season 3? Did he not offer to comfort Mike in season one after wills "death"?
Milevens find any excuse other than the truth. He doesn't feel secure in the relationship because it's loveless. he's trying to be the "Perfect Boyfriend" (TM) but the relationship is not built on a real structure and he feels like a nobody next to her (as said in the van scene).
Literally what about that is healthy?
Let's not even bring up the fact that it's the opposite with will and he genuinely believes he is equal to will and that they are a TEAM and should stick by each other's sides forever.
#byler#byler endgame#milkvan is bones#will byers#mike wheeler#wheeler family#nancy wheeler#karen wheeler#ted wheeler
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dear byler’s who talk abt and analyze the wheeler family,
headcanons n fanon n stuff with the wheelers are fine obviously but if we’re talking about analyzing CANON:
no Karen is not going to be homophobic part of her arc is being afraid to break out of social norms and being proud of her kids for doing it even tho she’s not the best mom
yes Ted IS casually homophobic dude literally had a Reagan sign and he’s a conservative man in a 80s be fr
no Ted is not viciously homophobic he is too apathetic to care (tho he’s probably made comments abt it occasionally, that’s up to interpretation rn tho 🤷🏻♀️) and the fanon Lonnie Byers-ification of Ted is insensitive for several reasons
no Ted is not gay just bc Mike has been paralleled to him and he smiled at hopper one time like it’s probably just bc he’s pro police again be fr
no I will never unironically be a Ted apologist and sympathizer
no the Wheeler parents are not abusive yes the Wheeler parents are emotionally neglectful there are many ways parents can traumatize their kids
no Karen is not a bad person
yes Karen IS a bad mom
no Ted is not a good person he could not give less of a shit about Nancy and Mike and so far the show has not given me a single piece of evidence to believe otherwise
no Ted is not the worst possible dad but he’s a pretty shitty one
yes Karen loves her kids even tho she’s a pretty bad at showing it sometimes
yes it is ALWAYS the fault of parents for not properly caring for and raising their kids regardless of life circumstances tho there is room for complexity it is still always the parents responsibility to nurture their kids and support and reach out okay are we all clear on this now?
Okay great 🙏
#the wheelers#wheeler family#mike wheeler#nancy wheeler#byler#<- this is @ the byler fandom so#byler tumblr#elli talks stranger things#elli talks mike wheeler
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Idk, I just think that the s5 "family finally accepts him for being queer" arc should go to Mike, not Will.
Not to say that Will shouldn't come out to the rest of his family in s5 (because I'll be rioting if he doesn't), just that his acceptance is already guaranteed with both his friends and family and so it shouldn't be the crux of his s5 arc.
Will's queerness is an open secret, and as he is extremely honest, he doesn't necessarily try to hide it, despite the bullies. Stranger Things as we know it wouldn't exsist without Will's friends and family loving him unconditionally, and it's not like Will doesn't know that he is loved. There would be no substantial material for this to be the centre of Will's arc, because as the audience, we already know what's going to happen.
Mike on the other hand.....
The subject of whether Mike's parents are homophobic and how they would treat his coming out has been widely debated and I've seen wildly different views on how this would go.
From the very first season, just like the Byers' love for eachother has been established, so has the Wheeler family tensions. They are trying to uphold a nuclear family, but it's clear to the audience that it isn't working. Mike coming out as queer would shake the foundation of the family they are trying to be as it doesn't fit within the stereotype. They could then learn as a family to stop conforming, whereas the Byers never tried to conform in the first place- they are all seen as the town 'freaks'.
There is so much dishonesty in the Wheeler family- Nancy and Mike promising not to lie to eachother but still being distant, Karen almost having an affair, Mike hiding El in his basement as well as the members of the family dealing with conformity: Nancy's s1 arc and Mike and Karen's s3 arcs. Mike coming out would be powerful, present unpredictablility, break honesty into the Wheeler family and give a satisfying conclusion to help with the wider Wheeler family arc as well as neatly tying into the themes of conformity within Stranger Things.
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Karen and Ted: We raised three perfectly normal kids who definitely don't need therapy
Joyce, getting ready to steal the Wheeler kids: You have three kids we don't know about??
#give our wheeler family some therapy please#stranger things#mike wheeler#nancy wheeler#holly wheeler#karen wheeler#ted wheeler#wheeler family#byler#ronance#fuck ted wheeler
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mike is going to be such a protective big brother this season, i can't wait to see him bond with holly and bonus if there are scenes of them with nancy too!!! i need more wheeler brothers content 🙏🏼🕯️
#lucas and erica in s4 was one of my favorite things#i really like the connection between brothers lol i spent a lot of time on tvd and spn because of that#it would be amazing to see mike developing this relationship too#mike wheeler#holly wheeler#nancy wheeler#mike and holly#wheeler family#Byler#stranger things 5#st5 speculation
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Now let me say I’m the biggest hater, I hate the way that you walk, i hate the way that you talk, I hate the way that you dress, I hate the way that you sneak diss
#ted wheeler#ted wheeler hate club#had to 💗#i hate that man with the fire of a thousand suns#stranger things#mike wheeler#nancy wheeler#wheeler family#byler#st5
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when karen goes missing in s5. when nancy and mike discover they’re related to the creels in the process of trying to find their mom. when el discovers henry is her dad because the lab secretly impregnated terry. therefore all of this putting another nail in mikeven’s coffin 😌
#look up theories on tumblr by searching karen wheeler creel family#and then you’ll understand why i believe there’s a connection between them#alsooooo henry’s speech to el in s4 about how papa wanted to recreate him and then she was born 🧐#i’m tired of being silent#it’s been 2 years and yes i believe henry is el’s father idc if that sounds like a reach it makes so much sense to me !!#karen wheeler#nancy wheeler#mike wheeler#wheeler family#henry creel#creel family#el creel#el hopper#el byers#byler#stranger things#stranger things theory#stranger things theories
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Ok ok wait hear me out, El isn’t dead. What if Mikes family all died?? Yes, all of them, even Nancy. This is even more likely if the Alice Creel theory is true.
I honestly don’t know what’d I’d hate more.
#stranger things#mike wheeler#byler#will byers#nancy wheeler#karen wheeler#ted wheeler#holly wheeler#wheeler family#byler endgame#el hopper#st5 speculation#st5 spoilers#st5 bts#st5 leaks#jim hopper
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Ted Wheeler and Walter White from breaking bad are the same person.
Source:trust me bro
#i’m feeling silly#ted wheeler#stranger things#wheeler family#breaking bad#walter white#short post#stranger things 5#byler brainrot
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#stranger things#texts from last night#my edit#nancy wheeler#natalia dyer#will byers#byler#he who shall not be named#mentioned but not seen#karen wheeler#mike wheeler#wheeler siblings#wheeler family#incorrect quotes#stranger things incorrect quotes#season 4#st 4
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hmm, i just saw the loveliest gifset of nancy being protective of max and once again got reminded of the fact that she's never shown that amount of concern for mike.
for three seasons straight, she'd even leave him to his own devices when it wasn't the safest. ditching the kids at the gym in s1 regardless of the fact that they were being hunted,,, leaving them with steve in s2 when there were demodogs still at large (and knowing the kids have a proclivity towards getting themselves in danger),,, straight up driving away from starcourt, leaving them with no escape method, as well as russians and a flayed biIly in the premises (even when seeing first hand what happened to the last two flayed men they "killed").
in all three instances, mike's the only constant (which doesn't seem unintentional in the slightest) and it's not just about that. she's worried about will in s2 and s3,,, el in s3,,, max in s4,,, even on lower stake circumstances, she comforts dustin in s2, when he was sad at the snowball (even though mike was also moping at right around that same time).
and yet, for mike, she only showed concern in s1, a little in s3 (but it was mostly about will, seeing as he'd been targetted by the mf before), and a little in s4 after vecna shows her his plan.
idk,,, it just makes me sad to see her being so protective of everyone, pushing herself to be brave even when she's still just a teen girl who shouldn't be dealing with any of this, but always leaving her own brother to the end. almost like an afterthought; the last thing in her mind, only worrying about him when the big bad straight up shows her his death.
and even then, when he returns from cali after days of suspicious lack of contact, she doesn't give him a hug. doesn't ask how he's doing,,, doesn't even talk to him, from what we were shown.
because, after all, there are larger problems at hand than mike.
#📝#💡#🧸#nancy wheeler#mike wheeler#nancy wheeler analysis#mike wheeler analysis#wheeler family#needless to say. none of this is intentional behaviour from nancy.#it's just a sad constant i sometimes think about :(
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