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My dash is currently filled with Vanilla Extract Memes and that US President Hunger Games writing prompt meta and weirdly that seems about right for a Saturday night tumblr stroll.
#vanilla extract#Us president hunger games#giggle snort#Seriously where else can you get quality content about teddy and Lincoln being the last 2 presidents to face each other hunger games style#While seeing polls about vanilla extract and how your boyfriend is 85% said extract and smells like pills hey dough boy butthole?
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Not becoming the thing you sought to destroy or destroying the thing you sought to become, but a secret third thing: in an effort to destroy the thing you accidentally become it without realizing until it consumes you completely and there's nothing left of the person you once were or your original intentions and now the lines are blurred between greater and lesser evils. In this essay I will
#nova artino#renegades#light yagami#death note#president coin#the hunger games#coriolanus snow#the ballad of songbirds and snakes#briony thorburn#all of us villains#teresa agnes#the maze runner#izumi akazawa#another#lelouch vi britannia#lelouch lamperouge#code geass#suzaku kururugi#tropes
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I think one thing that’s so important about the hunger games (and something that sets it apart from a lot of other ya media) is the fact that all the teenage characters are treated like teenagers by the adults around them.
And because of that- every single teenage character in the hunger games is constantly being manipulated/influenced/controlled by those adults (both by people trying to protect them and those trying to use them for their own gain)
Katniss and Peeta are kept out of the rebel plans for the quarter quell by haymitch (to protect them) and the others (to protect the plan). They’re also manipulated directly by Snow himself into playing up their romance in cf to try to prevent a rebellion. Gale (with his knack for traps) is manipulated by coin and the rebels as something they can use for weapons development and military strategy. Even prim is manipulated by coin into being part of the medic team sent to the Capitol (so that her sister has to watch her die). Even young snow and his high ambitions in tbosas are manipulated by Gaul and and Highbottom in his early attempts to gain power/glory for himself. And, of course, every teenager who’s ever been sent to the hunger games has been manipulated into participating in their show- this also includes all of the victors that continued being manipulated by the Capitol long into adulthood (like haymitch whose loved ones were all killed to prevent further rebellious behavior or finnick who was trafficked by snow because he was young and desirable).
Like this is not a series where the teenagers are special and the adults treat them as peers/equals bc of how special/important they are for whatever reason. This is a series where every teenager 👏 is 👏a 👏 teenager 👏 and is treated as such by all of the adults/governments/social systems around them. They all have that teenage naivety about them that’s constantly being used/manipulated by the adults around them (both for attempts at the teens’ protection and for the adults’ own causes/gains)
#the hunger games#catching fire#mockingjay#I mean the first half of mj is literally two governments fighting a war using two teenagers against each other for propaganda#katniss everdeen#peeta mellark#tbosbas#gale hawthorne#primrose everdeen#finnick odair#coriolanus snow#president snow
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y'all really think we don't know coriolanus snow, son of crassus xanthos snow, is a (future) dictator and mass murderer who is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people, the vast majority of whom are children, including finnick odair??? y'all really think we don't know that even as a youth he's already a controlling, narcissistic, scheming, calculating, traitorous son of a bitch?
you've severely underestimated our powers of media literacy, and also of knowing the difference between reality and fucking fiction.
#and this goes for anyone else with the brass ovaries to simp for truly vile characters on main purely because their actors are hot#you think the marvel fandom got where they are today with loki without simping hard for him even when he was a genocidal maniac?#you really think i give a shit if kylo ren worked for the space equivalent of neo nazis?#you say 'get a grip' when you tell us off for thirsting for these characters but you ought to be pointing that finger at yourself#because if we're the ones who really understand the difference between dreams and reality#what do you think that makes you?#the ballad of songbirds and snakes#the hunger games#coriolanus snow#tbosas#lucy gray baird#thg#president snow#sejanus plinth#tbosas spoilers#snow#snowbaird#coriolanus x lucy gray#lucy gray x coriolanus#coryo snow#ballad of songbirds and snakes#coriolanus snow x reader#coriolanus snow x you#and yeah#after all this simping we STILL want to put a bullet in this mfer's throat
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Me being sad about a Ravinstill that I made up for 3k+ words. Marius Ravinstill, I really didn’t expect to get this attached to you and Gnaeus, but here we are… technically, there isn’t much new info in this fic that hasn’t been tangentially mentioned in a post on this blog, but I’m also not expecting you guys to be tracking every single thing I just straight up make up about the Ravinstills, so it’s nice to have bits of lore all in one place!
#a ravinstill I made up? in a way isn’t that all the Ravinstills since you could interpret them in many different ways? shhhhhhhhh#chapter announcement#but also yeah. take my hand let us hallucinate different versions of the Ravinstills together#the ballad of songbirds and snakes#abyssal stuff#felix ravinstill#tbosas#the hunger games#president ravinstill#oc: marius ravinstill#oc: gnaeus ravinstill#maximinius ravinstill#fanfiction
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unhinged ruthless codependent hunger games obikin my BELOVED. love imagining capitol events later when everyone has no clue what to expect from this brutal and broken-hearted victor who murdered 17 ppl and what they get instead is a docile lil wolf puppy following obi wan around and biting anyone who gets in between them. they are so confused
anakin’s whole thing after the end of his hunger games is like “well I was just so heartbroken over the loss of the girl — I can’t even say her name it hurts to think about — and I ended up trauma bonding with obi-wan and growing closer to him as we both healed from our losses and then I fell in love because he is so easy to love….for me but you’re not allowed to love him because I do haha 🔪”
and it works!! People fall in love with their love because they love a story, especially one that has so much tragedy and then a happy ending <3
#asks#obikin#hunger games au#was thinking about this last night and a few months ago someone was like#oh it was said in the books that past victors would#be used by the Capitol if someone wanted to have sex with them#in exchange for money for the President#and this anakin finding out that that happened to his obi-wan#would ALSO be his reason to start a very targeted revolution
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LUCY GRAY BAIRD DRESS (HUNGER GAMES BALLAD OF SONGBIRDS AND SNAKES)
I just saw the latest Hunger Games Film and I like Lucy's Rainbow Dress so I decided to make a version of it in The Sims 4! Set Includes:
Lucy Gray Dress (mesh here)
Custom Thumbnail
She will be available for Early Access on Bestie Tier and Up and will be available for Public by January 1st!
EARLY ACCESS LINK
#the sims 4 cc#show us your sims#sims 4 cc#sims 4 custom content#the sims 4#lucy gray#president snow#the hunger games#hunger games#the ballad of songbirds and snakes#ts4 cc clothing#thesims4cc#ts4 custom content#ts4 cc download#ts4 cc finds
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reading the original trilogy, I was always so interested by D2 and D1, like, seeing how it didn't matter how well you are bc their children are still being slaughtered and they are still oppressed by the capitol. however, in tbosas, seeing how D1 and D2 people haven't always been like that (as we see their tributes trying to run away), it breaks my heart thinking that their behavior towards the capitol was probably a result of some of snow's politics. I may be reading into too deep now, but knowing panem and the capitol is a big critic to the usa, it really reminds me of what the usa have done to latin america during the cold war, turning latam into "america's backyard". what the capitol have done to D1 and D2 (specially D2, since it became the capitol's military center) was turning them into "the capitol's backyard".
#tbosas#tbosas movie#coriolanus snow#president snow#ramblings#the hunger games#thg series#thg analysis#us imperialism#my silly thoughts#District 2#District 1
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what if at the end of the hunger games Katniss Everdeen says “Katniss Everdeen, what a joke,” and cuts and bleaches her hair in President Snows honour
#bazinga#what a joke#Yeah I took my own shot at the peacemaker Twitter meme#And no I didn’t used a young Sheldon version#It was the first one I found#what if young sheldon in the finale of his show says throws his dc shirts away#and became overweight in his dad's honor#And why did I post it on tumblr??#Bc I can do theses hashtag things#Also HIIIIII RIVER#I’m willing talking about your hyperfixation#AREN’T YOU HAPPY????!!!/sar#I’m partially basing this off of some certain real life events#Ik she isn’t Katniss but she played her and is associated with her#I wanna extend these hashtags lmao#Peacemaker#Peacemaker what a joke#the hunger games#katniss everdeen#president snow#twitter#prepare to be harassed with more stuff like this when I think of it#Byeeeeeeeeee
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TBOSAS provides us with a lot of insight into how Young Coryo became conniving President Snow. How he became the man willing to poison his rivals and play games with a traumatized 16 year old girl.
But I also think it actually proves that President Coin authorized the bomb that killed Prim.
Because Coriolanus Snow remembers the War. He remembers the hunger and the despair. He remembers the maid who was butchered for meat. He remembers eating stashing away cans of lima beans in his decimated home. Coriolanus Snow WAS a Capitol child dreaming of receiving silver packages from the sky filled with candy and toys.
He was a monster and a tyrant and a threat to every citizen of Panem. He was a backstabbed and a snake. He committed unforgivable atrocities. And he used the children as a shield.
But he didn’t lie.
#just a theory#Suzanne is really good at leaving things open ended#and it’s easy to conclude what the novel seems to want you to conclude#but that’s what makes TBOSAS fun is it gives us new pieces of the puzzle#President snow was horrible#but did he lie?#the hunger games#TBOSAS#President Snow#Coriolanus snow#mockingjay
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With today's announcement, everyone's itching to see what new critique Suzanne Collins will have against the US's recent political actions (or lack thereof) regarding Israel's use of propaganda to erase the genocide in Palestine... But imagine if she'd written a Coin prequel to do it instead. Maybe she thought using the fascist neoliberal president to decry the current fascist neoliberal president was too on the nose tho. Ah well.
#the hunger games#haymitch abernathy#suzanne collins#president coin#politics#us politics#ms collins i love haymitch but give me a book on plutarch or something#make no mistake i WILL be reading but damn i wanna know more about the characters that had actual agency over their lives yk?
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"its the things we love most, that destroy us"
them including this quote in Donald Sutherland's voice?? No I am not okay.
#thg#ballad of songbirds and snakes#donald sutherland#president snow#it's the things we love most that destroy us#the hunger games#i was screaming#this whole trailer has me gobsmacked
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Not to spoil anything for The Brightness Between Us (even though I know barely anyone on this site has read it) but holy fuck....
We always knew Ambrose's mom was awful, but somehow she's even worse than we could have imagined from his narration in The Darkness Outside Us. She's officially in my top 3 best/worst book villains of all time, right after the Regent from Captive Prince and President Snow from The Hunger Games.
#tdou#the darkness outside us#the brightness between us#i'm literally 30% of the way through and i can't believe she's somehow worse than i pictured in the first book#my top 5 villain list is as follows:#the regent from captive prince#president snow from the hunger games#ambrose's mom from tdou#the darkling from shadow and bone#levana from the lunar chronicles
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Made Coriolanus Snow "Eras Tour" graphics for anyone to use to make their own t-shirt!
Obviously these cant be sold (IP infringement!!!) but I was bored and wanted to make them.
So you can use them for your own personal use if you'd like!
Please do NOT try to sell this design as your own. I wanted to upload for fans to make their own personal use t-shirts and other items. Thank you!
#Coriolanus Snow#President Snow#the ballad of songbirds and snakes#the hunger games#tbosas#thg#hunger games#Second graphics text is white and both are PNG transparent files#Please do not claim these are your designs! They can't be sold online as they're very much IP infringement if uploaded for monetary gain.#thanks!#fans are So welcome to use for personal designs that you print at home or for YOUR own use.
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*starts listening to the thg playlist*
augh -1 health
oof -1 health
ugh! -1 health
mmf -1 health
ugh! -1 health
augh -1 health
etc
GOOD that’s the effect i wanted >:)
#i wish so badly that i could annotate it. when will my husband (8tracks annotations) come back from the war#i made a rule that i was not allowed to take any songs from the soundtracks#until it was all finished and then i can pepper the best ones in sparingly#(abraham’s daughter & gale song & everybody wants to rule the world r going on there for sure)#i wanted to make myself get really creative without the crutch of the soundtracks although they r bangers#like we HAVE to start with the woods by daughter because it’s about sisters.#and if you forget that the hunger games is a story about a girl who loves her sister you have lost the plot#o children by nick cave is about children killing and being cleaned up and shipped off on a train. like ok#eat your young is self explanatory#so is kill our way to heaven (really digs into the mentality of a tribute imo)#glory and gore is on there because i genuinely thought lorde made that song for the movie#die first? well that’s katpee to a T (people who call them everlark u are boring and people who call them peeniss that’s too much for me)#(i think katpee is the funniest ship name ever so i’m using it)#who are you really is like who are you. really. but also i have nothing left to lose / see me bare my teeth for you !!!!!!!!#GOSSIP BY MÅNESKIN. FINNICK SONG. SIP THE GOSSIP DRINK TILL YOU CHOKE.#17 by ladytron :| also a finnick song perhaps :| but works for the other victors also :| they only want you when you’re 17 :|#AND THEN FEED THE MACHINE IS SO MUCH FUN RAAAAAAAAA WTF IS A LABOR UNION HEY (HEY) YOU (YOU) FEED THE MACHINE#if you only listen to one song on the playlist is should be that one because its just such a banger#wires by the neighborhood is like help me kill the president we’re gonna send him straight to hell (and it rules)#and then feel something by jaymes young is about a young person who is emotionally damaged beyond repair 🙃 had to end it on that one
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How I Characterize Felix Ravinstill
I once told a friend that every single detail we have about Felix Ravinstill could be interpreted multiple ways that they essentially told me nothing. There's also very little information about him in the book to work with. When I write Felix, I try to base my characterization on whatever I can squeeze out of canon, but when presented with choices (which is basically all the time), I pick what's more interesting to me. Obviously, these are just my readings and interpretations.
(@coryo and @persephoneprice since you two expressed interest, I'm tagging you. Also some of these points will be familiar to those who frequent this blog.)
The Basics
Before I get into the true explanation, I thought since there are so few facts about him in the book that I might as well list all of them:
Felix is President Ravinstill's greatnephew in the book (Ch. 11), and son in the movie
Felix is assigned to mentor Dill, the girl from District 11 (Ch. 4).
He does manage to attempt an interview with Dill (Ch. 11).
Felix gossips with Dean Casca Highbottom while in a car with Coriolanus (Ch. 13). (I once answered an ask about this)
Felix is distracted by a camera crew upon arriving to Heavensbee Hall for the first day of the Games (Ch. 13).
Felix does seem sympathetic to Dill. He sends her water and judges Treech for taking her water (Ch. 14).
When Felix is dismissed, Lepidus Malmsey compliments him for getting Dill this far (Ch. 14).
Coriolanus notes Felix's good sportsmanship in contrast with Juno Phipps' reaction to losing (Ch. 16).
As A Mentor and the President's Nephson
I often characterize Felix on the kinder more sensitive side of the Capitol mentors, but I don't actually think this means much. Even the most sympathetic mentors are complicit in the Games and have been raised with the Capitol superiority ingrained in their heads.
I cite his relative care for Dill during her final moments (sending her water) and his ability to get her to participate in an interview as evidence of him being somewhat kind.
Now, Felix's judgment of Treech for stealing Dill's water does highlight his sympathy from her, but it also underlines a sort of limitation to his kindness. He has to have a personal connection to be able to sympathize with the District tributes. (I imagine that this is true for most of the mentors.) He's not going to understand that of course, Treech would do this for survival. Given the connection that Felix's family has to the Games since Pres. Ravinstill did put them into place, I don't think he's thinking about them too critically, and if he starts to, he likely willfully turns away from that line of thought.
Additionally, I find it interesting that Felix doesn't seem to have made much of an effort to help Dill before the Games. There are two options for this: he could have but he didn't want to or he did want to but he couldn't. (I suppose that it is also possible that he didn't want to and couldn't have either way, but that's boring.)
In the case of 'he did want to but he couldn't,' there is a viable reading of Felix that positions him as not very close to the president. He is a great-nephew after all. We get no other details about the President's family, so it's entirely possible that Pres. Ravinstill could have his own children. Perhaps, Lepidus Malmsey would suck up to anyone with the Ravinstill name regardless of how close they are to the President. Felix's attention to the cameras reads as more of a desperate attempt to stay relevant as a part of a lesser branch of a major family.
I choose not to go with that reading of Felix's relationship with the President, because I think it yields less interesting story potential. I am also influenced by the movie's decision to make Felix the president's son, and the potential historical parallel with Julius Caesar's posthumous adoption of his own great-nephew, the future Emperor Augustus (someone else has pointed this out before me, but unfortunately, I can't find the post).
Unlike with Caesar and Augustus, I don't characterize Felix as the president's heir. This is mostly me just wanting to have my cake and eat it too. It takes the some aspects of the less-close-to-the-president read of Felix and transfers it over to Felix who is close to Pres. Ravinstill.
To go back to not getting Dill medical attention, my preferred reading of this is that he is being overly conscious of his image. He doesn't want to draw too much attention to himself, because he doesn't want his mistakes to reflect on his great-uncle/family. I can see a situation where Felix believes that too much interaction with his District tribute might be spun in negative ways on tabloids and headlines.
Additionally, that he doesn't take advantage of the potential and try to spin it any other way leads me to interpret Felix with a somewhat defeatist and unambitious attitude. He also doesn't seem to be the most politically savvy, or at least, he isn't taking after his great-uncle who I imagine was rather ruthless and ambitious to get to where he is today (with Gaul of all people whispering in his ear). Felix's resigned reactions to Dill in the movie are also partially responsible for me characterizing him as defeatist.
Felix being paired with Dill stood out as unusual to me. Despite being a Ravinstill, he's assigned to mentor one of the tributes with the lowest chances of winning. This does lend credence to Felix having being lesser-relation-to-the-president interpretation, but I choose to believe that the president rigs his assignment so that there is less pressure on him.
Being a Ravinstill and More on Being a Nephson
To explain what I just asserted about Felix's mentor assignment, I need to explain how I think being related to the president and a Ravinstill affects him.
Again, Coriolanus' speculation on Felix's relation to the president being the reason that Lepidus Malmsey is speaking so highly of him feels like it would be a constant in Felix's life. People want to get closer to him because of that relation, but people are watching him because of it (see above where I mention this as a potential reason for not trying more with Dill). I imagine that this puts a lot of pressure on him which gets to him.
Due to the disingenuous nature of many people approaching and complimenting Felix, I think that it not only adds to his insecurities, but when he can find people who are genuine with him, he values them dearly and gets rather protective (and maybe possessive). (I've mentioned why I think he and Festus would be good together both as friends or lovers in my other post, but Felix and Hilarius work as friends because I imagine their families are closer in status and wealth than some others.)
As I imagine that Pres. Ravinstill is a distant father figure to Felix but also personally attached to him, Pres. Ravinstill knowing that Felix is both kind-hearted and not ruthless chooses to give him a tribute that has likely no chance of winning. This has the Ravinstills saving face (no chance for a embarrassing defeat if there's no hope of winning) and (the president hopes) that Felix will know better to get attached. (Felix still gets subconsciously a little attached. See Dill ask)
This reading of Felix's mentorship assignment also highlights that his great-uncle doesn't seem to have much confidence in his competence which leads to Felix being insecure and eager to please when possible. I do think it also has him leaning into his defeatism. He'll try his best, but if even his family doesn't expect him to succeed, then what can he do?
Pres. Ravinstill trying to do something for Felix and it backfiring and leading to more insecurities is kind of the story of their failed father-son relationship in my mind. (It might also be Pres. Ravinstill with his entire family.)
I would be remiss to not mention that I don't think that Felix likes Dr. Gaul too much. This draws on him gossiping with Dean Highbottom, but it also has to do with my half-headcanon/half implied canon of Pres. Ravinstill and Dr. Gaul being close. Satyria Click does state that a good report from Gaul is substantial to the president (Ch. 6). (See this tag for my lowkey insane take on the Ravinstill-Gaul dynamic).
What Can We Learn From Movie! Felix?
It should be noted that Felix and Pres. Ravinstill's relationship is also influenced by this line in the movie: "maybe, he would have if he wasn't so busy running the country." (In response to Festus asking if Pres. Ravinstill ever taught Felix table manners)
I love the attempt at showing off status and prestigious wrapped in humor which also hides the reality of an absentee father figure.
Additionally, while portray Felix as rather sympathetic, the haughtiness and judgment of movie! Felix is still something that I see being compatible with my interpretation of him. I think he gets particularly indignant when he feels cornered or embarrassed in a social situation. This is when the worst of him comes out. (I choose to read him shit-talking Sejanus as him actually wanting to shit-talk Gaul, but nobody joined him, so he had to change targets. Yes, I know that this is likely not what the film intended.)
Felix eating with his fingers endears him to me greatly and could be a sign of cracks in his projected facade of perfection, and it does feel to me that Felix's insecurities are showing through when he responds to Festus. I think that there are times that Felix relaxes too much in public around his peers, and he gets self-conscious about it.
I often kill Felix in my stories, and we can blame the movie for giving me inspiration for that too. Unfortunately, being a Ravinstill also doesn't help as I imagine that Coriolanus would want to get rid of any competition for power and the prestige of being family to the previous president puts a tempting target on Felix's back.
Death and a Dip into Extended Ravinstill Lore
Felix's death also speaks to me on a thematic level. The Capitol's children obviously have more privilege and luxury than the District kids. In the bigger picture, amidst all the backstabbing of politics in that corrupt system, the Capitol kids' safety is just an illusion. The system could just as easily turn on them. What better way to illustrate that than with the death of the (former) president's own nephson? In my headcanon lore, Felix is the first time that Coriolanus murders one of his former classmates (See this ask for more).
I have a lot of thoughts on extended Ravinstill lore that goes beyond the scope of this post (See this and this for more) but know that I thinned out the Ravinstill family tree quite a bit before the start of canon. This serves to reinforce the idea of how the Capitol (or at least the unfair system that it runs) isn't truly good for anyone even those in power. It also helps reinforce Felix as a deeply insecure individual who lives in the shadow of two generations worth of dead family members.
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Okay, this is double in size from the Festus post. I hope that this is coherent! I also hope that I'm not forgetting anything! I have so many Felix thoughts that it is possible.
If any of this sounds interesting, I recommend trying to read my fics on ao3 (they're actually unrestricted now!) if you haven't already.
If you have read my fics, I sincerely hope this was interesting/insightful as a lot of what is here is already in my fics in some form.
If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask!
#THIS IS DOUBLE THE FESTUS POST#my precious little guy... i must go to sleep... if there are questions i'll probably get to them tomorrow#multiple people have used the phrase nephson before me. lily i think you were the first person i remember to do so#the closer to the end you get the more it turns to straight headcanons no citations just vibes#abyssal stuff#abyssal writes#the ballad of songbirds and snakes#the hunger games#tbosas#felix ravinstill#president ravinstill#maximinius ravinstill#dr gaul#volumnia gaul#festus creed#hilarius heavensbee#ravinstill extended family lore#thg series#characterization
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