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blindtaleteller · 2 years ago
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Ultimately, know wtf you’re talking about before making some fiction up about a thing, person or place lmao. also tags (which might get cut off heh), cause no: ‘Americans’ are not alone in doing shit like this and yes, I have seen it done in the reverse too lol! And architecture isn’t the only place it’s done, either. A lot of this is cultural assumption: rather than appropriation.. though I’d say it’s right there at the line of it, when people are slapping their own definitions and more in context on there that doesn’t belong. Which yes, Europe does all the time too. Is that really a surprise, when that’s where the majority currently here came from?
so funny when americans make photosets with pictures of normal eastern european buildings and describe them as "melancholy" or "desolate." like my brother that is an apartment complex. my friend Милош lives there.
#other cultures do this too; don't pretend#I think the most ridiculous shit I've seen comes out of victorian houses being assumed as being in europe because#they forget that the country as a nation was founded BY europeans who fled here to escape indentured slavery: and brought that architecture-#WITH them#english: french: and spanish especially#with even more following#I think the weirdest modern idiot myths from outside the country surround guns though#was watching a korean show the other day --based on anime but still--#and one kid in it just plops a supposedly loaded gun onto a diner table#liek bro#no#no that is not how any of that works#unless you're looking to go to prison in under five minutes#SOME states have open carry laws yes#and that's STILL not how those even work#no you can't just walk in & buy a gun like a piece of friggin candy over the counter lmao#even in the least strict states you have to go through a minimum two weeks safety class; which includes operation and get a license-#of which there are several kinds and classes OF license#problem being (and current events touch)#we haven't updated those checks and class reqs in a long time#and the world doesn't take the kinds of mental illness it takes to think walking into a public place and attacking people EVER OR -#even with a knife? Seriously enough to do something about THAT and teh other issues with health care as a whole#Ultimately gun bans are worthless#when mental health and the fact the mentally unwell and crimnials are able to get a hold of ANY weapon to endanger themselves and others#better legistlation; screening and enforcement should be gone after first#because teh question we should be asking is this#why was someone that unstable allowed or enabled to get hold of a weapon? why was their mental health ignored to this point?#why were they allowed into any school especially#and why are our representatives being so lazy about fixing the root of these issues?#why is our health and mental care especially mid-covid still being ignored to put us in this state?
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fandom-necromancer · 5 years ago
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1165. Realize something, my dear. We have fought each other before, but barely does that mean we are enemies.
This was prompted by the amazing @aurea-b! I’m in a bad headspace today so I hope this is at the normal standard. Enjoy! Edit: this will have multiple parts now and the bold warnings are for the chapter you are reading right now.
Fadom: Detroit become human | Ship: Reed900 (Warnings: bad communication, violence, kidnapping, graphic description of android dismantling, mentions of physical and mental abuse)
[Part2]   [Part3]   [Part4]
If there was one thing Nines would change in his life, it would be to be partnered up with Detective Gavin Reed. The man was a good cop, efficient and spoke his mind. But that were about the only three good traits he possessed. He was needlessly aggressive, sensing an attack in every word directed towards him, was hiding behind multiple walls of standoffish behaviour and wasn’t hesitant to let his fists follow his words. Nines equally stubborn not to take any shit from a mere human wasn’t suited to get along with Reed at all. He tried to do his best still.
And some days it nearly was as if it worked. When they were on a mission they worked well together. When there was someone criticising them as a team, they defended each other. But god forbid if it was just the two of them. ‘How about you finally make yourself useful, dipshit, and bring me a coffee?’ ‘Sure thing, honey’, Nines answered the nickname the same deadpan tune as his normal voice. He had learned quickly that using them riled up the detective far more than any curse would be able to. ‘As soon as I taught you to go fuck yourself!’ ‘Phcking androids’, the Detective muttered as he stood up from his desk. ‘Oh you wished.’ Gavin flipped him off without looking and Nines ignored it. He had evidence to look into.
It was their everyday bickering. Time consuming, yes, but ultimately harmless. Just another annoying part of working together with the human. Unfortunately, it wasn’t always this smooth. Or this quiet. And now that Gavin was pulling him into an empty interrogation room, Nines knew this wouldn’t be pleasant. He could have resisted of course. But that would have led to immediate violence and if he could, he wanted to avoid another disciplinary and the human being cranky about it for the next weeks because of his wounded pride and hands. Gavin pushed him inside and he allowed it, only for the man to turn and lock the door once they were inside. Nines prided himself to never be afraid, but now, locked into a room with no surveillance alone with an armed human… It brought up some nasty memories.
‘Two months without a major lead and you useless machine let him run!’, Gavin shouted. ‘You could have caught him!’ ‘Yeah, I could have!’, Nines retorted. ‘If you weren’t so incompetent to slip and fall off the building!’ ‘Since when is that of your concern?’ ‘How about a thank you that I saved your worthless life?’ ‘How about you mind your own goddamn business?’ ‘I can’t even begin to understand you, Detective’, the android said, standing straight to make full use of his added height. ‘I saved your life! What should I have done? Let you fall? Let you die a miserable death to end your already miserable life?’ ‘Maybe you should have!’, Gavin shouted. ‘That’s what you wanted from the very beginning, didn’t you, asshole? Get rid of me?’ ‘The days without you are greatly preferred to the days I have to suffer through your presence, sweetheart!’ ‘Oh really?’, Gavin asked, pulling out his gun. Several analyses of the threat the human represented now filled Nines’ HUD, the ballistic course of the bullet in the chamber already pre-constructed. ‘Why don’t you do it then? End it here and now? If I’m that bad to endure, why not kill me? Be the killer you were designed to be. No one would even blame you. Finally snapping after a year of being my partner. Do you know there are already bets on that? You would make Officer Person a very, very rich man.’ He took two steps forward and as Nines backed away, he continued walking until the android hit the wall. ‘What? Scared, darling?’, he imitated him. ‘Come on, I’m even giving you a reason to!’
There was a cold spot where the barrel touched his forehead and Nines pressed his eyes closed, wincing at the contact. He wanted to run, but where to in this room? He couldn’t anyways. His whole body was frozen in place, rigid and numb with the exception of his forehead. ‘Now come on. This is the moment you waited for, isn’t it? I bet you have the cam in observation already on and centred on me. You could say it was self-defence and everyone would believe you. So why not do it? Come on!’
Speaking was suddenly an unsurmountable task for the android, and it wasn’t making anything better that the human was coming even closer, whispering into his ear: ‘What are you so scared about, tin-can?’
‘Realize something, my dear.’ Nines voice was filled with static noise and he didn’t manage to ban his very real fear from it. ‘We have fought each other before, but barely does that mean we are enemies.’ He managed to finally open his eyes to stare down on the human, who took an instinctive step back. ‘What the phck’s that supposed to mean?’ ‘It means you don’t have to hold me at gunpoint for saving your life!’ The human took another step back and let his hand fall a bit. His gun was still trained on Nines. ‘I am not your enemy. I am your goddamn partner, Reed! I am supposed to look out for you. I am supposed to keep you from harm on missions. And no, I won’t pursue someone we know near everything about for the mission’s sake when you are about to fall from a building. I don’t particularly like you, but I won’t let you come to harm when I can keep you from it. And no, I won’t kill you. I just wished you would think the same.’
‘Yeah, like I would fall for that.’ Nines took another step forward and pushed Gavin’s hand with the gun down. ‘Despite everything you try to push me away, Detective, I will stay. We work well together, and our duty is too important to quit. It is entirely your doing that we don’t get along. I am willing to compromise. Now you accept that there is at least one person out there who cares for you and just wishes to keep you safe!’ ‘Phck you’, Gavin spat, but put his gun away. ‘Good, then we are finally back to pouting. Will you open the door now, so we can actually do our work and find our suspect again?’ ‘No sweetheart this time?’, Gavin asked. ‘Only if you want to, dipshit.’
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rametarin · 4 years ago
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What the war on drugs can teach us about gun control
Consider that for the last 40 years, we’ve been in a culture as well as a physical war with illegal drug sales and narcotics sales. It was thought that the way to curb their illegitimate use and the harm that does, the only way to do so was A.) regulate B.) punish people SEVERELY when caught and convicted for use C.) Punish people SEVERELY!!! for distributing and dealing.
What happened?
The illegal narcotics market never stopped, didn’t even feel a dent. More people got jailed and died in prison. More people overdosed in the shadow of society because they wanted to use drugs and accepted the risks to use them illegally, even if it meant death.
The war on drugs did not shrink drug use. D.A.R.E had the opposite of the intended effect, or its effect was so negligible that all it did was slow the magnitude growth.
All the War on Drugs really did was make illegal narcotics less safe, increase business, increase the profitability of the venture, and serve as a lifeline for everybody from the Russian, to Mexican, to Chinese mobs.
Despite the lingering dangers of being caught using, the bankrupting effects of getting caught up in addiction and dependence for decades, the life threatening and destroying effects of addiction, the hollowing out of families fortunes, people still wind up using drugs.
People can still attain drugs.
Despite how many years you can get sent away to prison for their sale, distribution, possession and consumption, people still use drugs.
The War on Drugs didn’t work, because regulating by punishing law abiding people, making it harder for them to operate in a world designed as a playpen to handle those that abuse drugs, doesn’t work. The war on drugs didn’t work, because government cannot be everywhere and govern everyone in their personal lives. And it’s folly and draconian and authoritarian to try.
Now, a similar thing occurs when you talk about the War on Guns.
Those that wish to do harm with firearms, already do harm with firearms. Legal regulations do not stop it. Because the vast majority of people that commit crime with hot guns that aren’t even stolen from gun stores, get them illicitly. To where stronger LEGAL barriers in the way of when maniacs try to go through legal channels to get them for their rampages serve as near to no barrier at all.
We know this, because while some troubled white boy off his medication and raised in single mother houses get the most press for shooting people, the vast majority of shootings occur between black narco-gangs in urban areas. To where every year, if we get 400 people dead by rifles, that’s peanuts compared to the 8-9 thousand caused by handguns. And most of those are from illegal handguns. Between felons, whom by LAW, shouldn’t have access to firearms in the first place. So sayeth the government.
But again, the War on Drugs and contraband and the war on guns via gun control have been DISMAL failures. Law abiding citizens don’t kill people nor do they want to.
Suppressors? Machine guns? The criminal element don’t even use those. Not because they fear reprisal by the government, or multi-million dollar operations of illegal narcotics make it hard to get guys that can smith guns just for the narco-gangs. They don’t use them, because they’re otherwise worthless and impractical save as cover fire or aesthetics. It serves absolutely no one to make those illegal for any reasons. They save no lives by being illegal and a felony for a law abiding citizen to possess. And if a person conspiring to commit a crime pleases, they could illegally mod or get it illegally modded to be a full-auto, anyway.
They’re analog devices. That means they’re practically tinker toys compared to the sophistry of manufacturing narcotics. Machine guns being illegal helps absolutely nobody be safe or secure from anything, whatsoever. The illusion that them being illegal will somehow protect you is not too different from the illusion putting chips in automobiles so nobody can ever go over 80 miles an hour on national roads ever again will somehow prevent fatal crashes.
It might feel good. That thin veneer of security and satisfaction as you support the passing of, “common sense reform” this, and “reasonable gun control” that. But the truth is, if you’re in favor of gun control, then you’re probably just the leftist equivalent of the Law&Order republicans that thought harsher criminal sentencing and steeper penalties for trafficing and dealing would clean out the gene pool of “certain problemed communities.” And the problem would fix itself within 20 years, as people were removed from the conversation and prevented from having kids.
But banning ‘armor piercing’ rounds does nothing. Banning bump stocks does nothing. Banning butt stocks does nothing. Banning rifles over a certain size does nothing. Banning shotguns under a certain size does nothing. Banning magazine and clips of certain ammo sizes, does nothing. Banning colors, banning materials, banning styles, banning aesthetics, does nothing.
Because you’re trying to whittle whittle whittle until you can get around that constitutional right that says an individual over the age of 21 shall be permitted legal right to a firearm, and the state cannot infringe upon it. That’s ultimately what it boils down to.
People can defend their property, people can defend their family, people can defend their community, people can defend their country, with legal access to open and concealed carry firearms. What can you do with legal narcotics? Get high. The absolute necessity of being able to use firearms outweighs the risks of an individual and the harm they could do with those firearms.
If you so much as entertain the idea that the way to win the war on drugs is to end the war on selling and distribution and instead go to the psychological roots of why people abuse and how to get them clean in the first place, then you cannot philosophically, logically, morally, support gun control laws. Because the same issues that drive a person into a self-destructive spiral of narcotics abuse are often the same issues that drive people to shooting rampages.
Even that nonsense about possession of firearms contributing to murders from domestic fights is just malarky designed to allow the government to constitutionally neuter private individuals if their estranged and ex-wives decide to get revenge on their beau by declaring them a danger.
We don’t need national serial registries owned by the government, we don’t need bans on machine guns, ammunition types, barrel lengths, or styles.
Outside a person being deemed incompetent in their mental state as determined by their psychologists and psychiatrists, and the mental health instituitions being able to privately post your mental health information for relevant bureaus or businesses that deal in things like firearms or automobiles, there’s absolutely no reason why firearms should be illegal for anybody but felons. And it is way too easy to get technically ruined by even simple firearms federal laws.
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bountyofbeads · 5 years ago
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Attacks Spur Debate on Extremism and Guns, With Trump on Defense https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/05/us/politics/trump-guns-white-supremacy.html
Mass shootings have nothing to do with video games or mental health. When countries are compared statistics show clearly a relation between the number of guns and mass shootings. US makes up less than 5 % of the world's population but holds 31 % of global mass shooters. It is guns and Trump’s toxic racism.
Below are some comments from Americans around the country.
"If our president won’t call for new gun laws to protect everyone in this country, we need to call for a new president. Loudly, united in voice and resolute that mass shootings and domestic terrorism will not become our new normal."
"Usual GOP responses are worthless. Research on video games has shown no difference in violent tendencies for those playing violent video games and those that do not. Mental illness remedies would be included in health insurance, but wait...there's more...the GOP wants to kill Obamacare, which has mandatory mental health coverage. The only remedy is for Mr Trump to leave office and stop his spewing divisive words. Then we can start working on solutions. Unfortunately real solutions may not come anytime before all 3 branches of government are controlled by the Dems."
"Trump 2006: "I Could Stand In the Middle Of Fifth Avenue And Shoot Somebody And I Wouldn't Lose Any Voters." The man is a walking, talking violence-monger yet he faults video games."
"The mass shooting in El Paso was based on anti-immigrant hatred. Trump wants to "solve" the problem by tying any gun legislation to his hateful anti-immigrant agenda. Now, is there any further need to ask whether Trump's rhetoric of hate is contributing to a climate of violence? He cannot even conceive of an answer to the problem which does not, by definition, make the problem worse. Trumpism is the problem."
"This morning's speech was not Trump, but his writers stringing together statements they think will play well at this moment. Trump is no more than a marketer, which is why he can race-bait one day and call for condemnation of racism and bigotry the next -- focus-group testing whatever might play best. He voluntarily given up any agency in these matters, as has the party he has bought and co-opted. The same group that automatically points to "mental illness" as the problem wants to reduce health care benefits -- which have never been sufficient for mental health anyway -- for millions. The hypocrisy is breathtaking, but may well be tolerated if fear and hatred are the primary motivators for political decision-making. That will be the only way they can win."
"Trump is a hypocrite! He shores up racism on the one hand and condemns racist acts on the other. Does he think people are stupid, or what? The world is watching. Trump's words are empty and meaningless; his modus operandi is plain to see. People don't need his thoughts and prayers; rather, they need to be kept safe. Americans' lives are precious. As a Brit looking in, nothing could be clearer to me: it's the guns, stupid! What is also clear to me is this: for many Americans, the right to bear arms is more important than people's lives. Until this changes, the killing sprees will go on. All decent Americans should stand up and be counted; they should demand that there be meaningful gun control. Without meaningful gun control, America will continue to be a killing field."
“In one voice our nation must condemn racism, bigotry and white supremacy,” Mr. Trump said. That comes from the man who tells elected representatives of color to "go back where they came from." That from the man who started his campaign by calling immigrants from Mexico drug dealers, rapists and criminals. That from the man who bans Muslims from coming to the US. That from the man who talks about "invasions" at his political rallies. Today's comments are pablum, read from a TelePrompter, written by one of his flunkies. Somehow, I have a really hard time ascribing any sincerity to his remarks today."
Shootings Spur Debate on Extremism and Guns, With Trump on Defense
By Alexander Burns | Published August 5, 2019 | New York Times | Posted Aug. 5, 2019 |
The politics of American gun violence follow a predictable pattern in most cases: outraged calls for action from the left, somber gestures of sympathy from the right, a subdued presidential statement delivered from a prepared text — and then, in a matter of days or even hours, a national turning of the page to other matters.
But after a white supremacist gunman massacred 22 people in El Paso, the political world hurtled on Monday toward a more expansive, and potentially more turbulent, confrontation over racist extremism. Though the gun lobby was again on the defensive, it was not alone; so were social media companies and websites like 8chan that have become hives for toxic fantasies and violent ideas that have increasingly leaked into real life, with fatal consequences.
Perhaps most of all, President Trump faced intense new criticism and scrutiny for the plain echoes of his own rhetoric in the El Paso shooter’s anti-immigrant manifesto.
Mr. Trump’s usual methods of deflection sputtered on Monday: His early-morning tweets attacking the news media and calling vaguely for new background checks on gun purchasers did little to ease the political pressure. A midmorning statement he recited from the White House — condemning “white supremacy” and warning of internet-fueled extremism, but declining to address his own past language or call for stern new gun regulations — did nothing to quiet the chorus of censure from Mr. Trump’s political opponents and critics, who are demanding presidential accountability.
No statement better captured how the gun violence debate was giving way to a reckoning on extremism than a statement on Monday afternoon from former President Barack Obama. Mr. Obama, who has weighed in sparingly on public events since leaving office, called both for gun control and for an emphatic national rejection of racism and the people who stoke it.
“We should soundly reject language coming out of the mouths of any of our leaders that feeds a climate of fear and hatred or normalizes racist sentiments,” Mr. Obama wrote, “leaders who demonize those who don’t look like us, or suggest that other people, including immigrants, threaten our way of life, or refer to other people as subhuman, or imply that America belongs to just one certain type of people.”
Mr. Obama did not mention Mr. Trump or any other leaders by name.
The Democrats seeking the presidency in 2020 did not hesitate to do so: Mr. Trump had scarcely finished speaking from the White House on Monday when his Democratic challengers blamed him explicitly for giving succor to extremists. Joseph R. Biden Jr., the former vice president and current Democratic front-runner, accused Mr. Trump on Twitter of having used the presidency “to encourage and embolden white supremacy.” And in an interview with CNN, Mr. Biden said Mr. Trump had “just flat abandoned the theory that we are one people.”
Other political leaders reacted with their own raw distress and alarm. Michael R. Bloomberg, the former New York City mayor who has bankrolled a yearslong crusade for gun control,  wrote in a column that the “new atrocities need to change the political dynamic” around guns, and said Mr. Trump’s remarks were little more than “the usual dodge.”
And Democratic presidential candidates rounded on Mr. Trump in a front that transcended ideological and tonal divisions in the party. Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, a populist liberal, said Mr. Trump must be held responsible for “amplifying these deadly ideologies,” while Senator Cory Booker of New Jersey, who has campaigned as an advocate for racial justice and national healing, derided Mr. Trump’s speech as a “bullshit soup of ineffective words” in a text message that his campaign manager posted on Twitter.
An aide to Mr. Booker said he would deliver a major speech on gun violence on Wednesday morning in South Carolina, at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston where a white supremacist gunman killed nine people in 2015.
And the entwined issues of gun violence and racist extremism began to tumble into elections for offices well beyond the presidency. In Colorado, Mike Johnston, a former state lawmaker and gun-control advocate who is challenging Senator Cory Gardner, a Republican, blamed Mr. Trump for having “created this toxic culture that incites white nationalists.” In 2020, he said, candidates would have to make a stark binary choice.
“Either you’re on the side of the white nationalist holding the AR-15, or you’re on the side of the millions of Americans living in fear of them,” Mr. Johnston said in an interview.
Mr. Trump, for his part, said he was open to “bipartisan solutions” that would address gun violence, and blamed “the internet and social media” for spreading what he termed “sinister ideologies.” He was not specific about any next steps his administration would take, though he stressed his strong support for the death penalty and seemed to express skepticism that gun restrictions would be an appropriate remedy.
“Mental illness and hatred pulls the trigger, not the gun,” Mr. Trump said.
Mr. Trump’s campaign responded to criticism of the president with a statement deploring Democrats for “politicizing a moment of national grief.”
“The president clearly condemned racism, bigotry and white supremacy as he has repeatedly,” said Tim Murtaugh, a spokesman for Mr. Trump’s campaign. “He also called for concrete steps to prevent such violent attacks in the future.”
Mr. Murtaugh added that “no one blamed Bernie Sanders” when one of his supporters attempted to kill a group of Republican lawmakers at a Virginia baseball diamond in 2017. “The responsibility for such horrific attacks,” he said, “lies ultimately with the people who carry them out.”
If Mr. Trump and his allies are adamant that he is blameless in the rise of extremist violence, much of the public believes he has not adequately separated himself from white supremacists. A survey published in March by the Pew Research Center found that a majority of Americans — 56 percent — said Mr. Trump had done “too little to distance himself from white nationalist groups.” That group included about a quarter of people who identified themselves as Republicans or as leaning toward Mr. Trump’s party.
It has not only been liberals who have argued that the mass shooting in El Paso, and another one hours later in Dayton, Ohio, represented a crisis for the country, and a major test for Mr. Trump. The conservative magazine National Review published an editorial on Sunday evening calling on Americans and their government to take on “a murderous and resurgent ideology — white supremacy” in much the same way the government has confronted Islamic terrorism.
Mr. Trump, the magazine said, “should take the time to condemn these actions repeatedly and unambiguously, in both general and specific terms.”
Frank Keating, the former Republican governor of Oklahoma, who led his state through the 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City by domestic terrorists, said in an interview that the moment called for both new restrictions on firearms and a new tone from the White House. He urged Mr. Trump to “carefully choose your words” to avoid instilling fear or inciting anger.
“He needs to realize the lethality of his rhetoric,” Mr. Keating said.
“The truth is, the president is the secular pope,” he added, “and he needs to be a moral leader as well as a government leader, and to say that this must not occur again — exclamation mark.”
It was not clear whether the El Paso shooting had the potential to become a pivot point in national politics, much as the Oklahoma City bombing had in the 1990s. After that attack, which killed 168 people, President Bill Clinton  delivered a searing speech against the “loud and angry voices in America today whose sole goal seems to be to try to keep some people as paranoid as possible” — a denunciation widely understood as being aimed at the extreme right. Mr. Clinton’s handling of the attack helped restore voters’ confidence in him as a strong leader after a shaky start to his presidency.
Mr. Trump has shown no inclination in the past to play a role of such clarifying moral leadership, or to engage in any kind of searching introspection about his own embrace of the politics of anger and racial division. In the aftermath of a white supremacist march in Charlottesville, Va., in 2017 that resulted in the murder of a young woman, Mr. Trump said there had been  “very fine people on both sides” of the unrest there. In recent weeks, he has engaged without apology in a sequence of attacks on prominent members of racial minority groups, including five different Democratic members of Congress.
While few Republican lawmakers had anything critical to say about Mr. Trump in public after the El Paso and Dayton shootings, the party harbors profound private anxieties about the impact of his conduct on the 2020 elections. During last year’s midterm elections, Mr. Trump campaigned insistently on a slashing message about illegal immigration, and was rewarded with a sweeping rejection of his party across the country’s diverse cities and prosperous suburbs.
Punctuating the final weeks of the 2018 elections were a pair of traumatic events that may have deepened voters’ feelings of dismay about the president’s violent language and appeals to racism: a failed wave of attempted bombings  by a Trump supporter aimed at the president’s critics, and a mass shooting at the Tree of Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh, carried out by a gunman who had railed about immigrant “invaders.”
Mr. Trump responded to the Pittsburgh massacre in a tone similar to the one he used on Monday, lamenting the “terrible, terrible thing, what’s going on with hate in our country,” before taking up his caustic message again on the campaign trail. He paid no price for that approach with his largely rural and white political base, which has remained fiercely supportive of his administration through all manner of adversity, error and scandal.
In the Democratic presidential race, the weekend of bloodshed had the effect of muting, at least temporarily, the divisions in the party that were showcased in last week’s debates. The outbreak of solidarity may not last, but it underscored how much the 2020 campaign is likely to take shape in reaction to Mr. Trump’s worldview and behavior.
Even as they aired their disagreements last week, some Democrats appeared to recognize that political reality. In fact, on the morning after his party’s back-to-back debates concluded, Gov. Jay Inslee of Washington State predicted to a reporter in Detroit that his party would have little difficulty rallying together in the 2020 election.
“We’ve got the most unifying gravitational force, outside of a black hole,” Mr. Inslee remarked, “and that’s a white nationalist in the White House.”
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I’ve been saying things of this nature for years now. @popeofwelding laid it out pretty good here. The said part is this makes a lot of parents uncomfortable and forced them to look in the mirror and that’s tough to do for some. It’s much easier to beat the “ban guns” drum. #Repost @popeofwelding with @get_repost ・・・ I’ve recently had some guns rights groups approach me about speaking at events. I also receive a fair amount of ridicule and shaming for my pro gun stance. Recent events of high school kids being killed by a classmate. Until we are ready to have a discussion about how society as a whole has failed our kids. No laws, knee jerk regulations or tolerance will change a thing. We need to realize that the responsibility of having kids is 100% on the parents shoulders. This 18 year responsibility is a long road lined with many tears, lots of heartaches and plenty of anger. The ultimate goal is to send them off to adulthood with confidence, manors, drive, self reliance and most importantly a High Sense of Self Value. That level of self value is the tipping point for most kids. When a kid can stare at his phone/computer for hours. It tells him what’s cool and what’s not cool. It will also be a beacon for navigating through the darkness. That guiding light in the darkness will not show them the right path. Instead it will show them the correct way to starve yourself and avoid hunger pains, correct way to cut yourself and conceal it, the correct way to hate, and lots of other unspeakable things we don’t want to imagine our kids doing. These paths will reduce self value to nothing and support them for feeling worthless. This is a big reason why the suicide rate of teens has risen 30% in recent years. Our role in this game is to make the tough decisions for them. Monitor and regulate what your kids are doing and seeing. If you don’t see warning signs, it doesn’t mean everything is fine. Check in with them. The most important piece to this puzzle is the self value. The sure fire way to give them NO self value. Is to let them go down the path that modern society dictates. The false promise that college and computers or being a rapper or sports star is the only w https://ift.tt/2LjjcWu
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I know the WWE tried something similar but i was thinking, the only way to get me to actually watch football is if we threw out the physical contact rulebook and dressed everyone up like thor and let them UFC fight their way to a goal. See this is why i was thinking this, football, to me, is worthless boring hyped up waste of time to watch (for me, for you football might be god, i dont care what you do.). Sure the imact shots are cool but what are you doing really, bumping into eachother, running from large men that want to put you on the ground, and throwing balls around. That might be your definition of manly, but ive seen videos of jihadists showing their dedication to allah by striking themselves on their own backs with sharp ass swords effectively splitting their backs wide open til you can see their shoulder blades and muscles and tendons and idfk why anyone would EVER do that to themselves but when compared to dudes that need to dress up in as much armor as master chief to bump into eachother, football is not my definition of "manly". So, Lets compromise cause self sword slashing is fucking insane. UFC, Boxing, id add professional wrestling in there but my image of a man isnt accompained by a script. (Again, wwe may be god to you, and i dont care what you do, but it bores me.) Now these are contact sports where people get some seriously knarley fuckin injuries. You could die. You could fucking die. Fighters go in the ring, knowing that they can die. Even people have died in the wwe. You are engaging in life risking behavior. But its not sword slashing insane. Now. I have a really good rationale for this, hear me out before your allergy for reading takes hold and you TL:DR me because you dont respect me as a person and would rather fill your time out by reading something kanye west said in an interview about how much he's godlike. So, first of all, football requires its safty equipment because rugby scares the shit out of people that prefer to make millions of dollars and continue looking like they fell from mt. Olympus. And i think that that is unacceptable. You are making millions of dollars to appease us, you only exist because we want to watch you put your body through extreme bouts of training and display your success in the form of competition. You belong to us. Back in the biblical days we would take giant men and make them fight to the death for entertainment, now we pay them an unforgivably unporportionate amount of compensation, and they have the fucking nerve to ask for safty pads? Now i know what youre thinking, maybe football players dont want to wear pads and the soccer moms forced pads on them because they're afraid that their kids will imitate what their fathers are throwing steel toed boots around when their team loses for, and get hurt. (On that note, prioirities people, fans screaming and jumping up and down and threatening the safty of their family because the giants lost the ball somehow is acceptable but doing sports without pads isnt. Please check your fuckin prioirities ). And all of this is okay, i get it, totally, you don't want your top stars to catch a case of broken neck and lose your team millions of dollars but if it gets permitted to run rampant we'll be playing football by sitting down at a very large oval table and discussing what they plan on doing to the other team and voting on who has the best probability to win. Or table top roleplay, which, i assure you that roast is brewing too. And essentially nobody wants to make sports that boring. Cause a broken ankle is okay so long as beer is being sold and every january we get some cool commercials. But dont you dare risk taking that player away from us. No. Fuck that. Police are spraying down people with mace that have done nothing more than standing in a place and commanding they demand change. We send drones with bombs to third world countries and indiscriminately explode the fuck out of whoever is in the way. The worldwide highest grossing movie of current times displays a cancer scarred man riddled in digusting scars using everything from guns to his own broken bones to mame and murder dozens of henchmen to get to the guy who made him ugly. Don't pretend that violence isnt the most important thing to entertaining americans and don't you dare pretend that youve never stated "if i see a clown in the woods i'm going to beat the fuck out of him and kill him for being scary, cause something that is scary is also synonymous with life threatening and i must murder it." fuck you. Youre in love with violence. I am, you are, that girl masturbating to tentacle monsters is. Just stop lying. Youre ready for this. Okay. UFNFL Ultimate Fighting National Football League. No pads. No restriction on contact (besides serious shit like eye gouging, intentional murder, weapons, i mean is it inconcievable to adopt boxing and ufc and apply those rules as safty restrictions? I think we can do this) No limit to beginning or ending a fight (hire 50 refs to run out and try to separate the fighters, but lets say if the red colored team guy gets the blue colored team guy to tap out, the blue team guy has to sit in the box of shame until the game is over.)(and when the blue team runs out of players they have to forfiet, so they get plenty of backup players but are limited to, lets say 50 men? We don't want each match going on for eternity, id rather slash my back with a sword then dedicate more than 16 hours to a specific event. ) Anyway, in this vision, the game is still football, but now theres brawling, now theres people fucking other people up, and not only are they proving to us that they are worth the money that they're getting paid, but we are loving watching them reap carnage, just like the nature of our soul demands. So you will have penalties too. Any additional fighters on the field fighting more than a one on one scenario, congratulations you have 10 seconds to remember whos fucking slaves you are and get off the dude youre flat out murder punching in the valor of fairness or esle you are indefinitely banned from this sport, go back to college guest visits and inspirational commercials because you are fucking banned. And now, NOW and only NOW would it be FUCKING excusable to give every player a fucking participation trophy. *drops mic*
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usagunbunker · 7 years ago
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I’ve been saying things of this nature for years now. @popeofwelding laid it out pretty good here. The said part is this makes a lot of parents uncomfortable and forced them to look in the mirror and that’s tough to do for some. It’s much easier to beat the “ban guns” drum. #Repost @popeofwelding with @get_repost ・・・ I’ve recently had some guns rights groups approach me about speaking at events. I also receive a fair amount of ridicule and shaming for my pro gun stance. Recent events of high school kids being killed by a classmate. Until we are ready to have a discussion about how society as a whole has failed our kids. No laws, knee jerk regulations or tolerance will change a thing. We need to realize that the responsibility of having kids is 100% on the parents shoulders. This 18 year responsibility is a long road lined with many tears, lots of heartaches and plenty of anger. The ultimate goal is to send them off to adulthood with confidence, manors, drive, self reliance and most importantly a High Sense of Self Value. That level of self value is the tipping point for most kids. When a kid can stare at his phone/computer for hours. It tells him what’s cool and what’s not cool. It will also be a beacon for navigating through the darkness. That guiding light in the darkness will not show them the right path. Instead it will show them the correct way to starve yourself and avoid hunger pains, correct way to cut yourself and conceal it, the correct way to hate, and lots of other unspeakable things we don’t want to imagine our kids doing. These paths will reduce self value to nothing and support them for feeling worthless. This is a big reason why the suicide rate of teens has risen 30% in recent years. Our role in this game is to make the tough decisions for them. Monitor and regulate what your kids are doing and seeing. If you don’t see warning signs, it doesn’t mean everything is fine. Check in with them. The most important piece to this puzzle is the self value. The sure fire way to give them NO self value. Is to let them go down the path that modern society dictates. The false promise that college and computers or being a rapper or sports star is the only w
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