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*SLAMS THIS ONTO TABLE*
IT'S THE WIVES!!
#This scene has me in a chokehold I cannot get out of its grasp#Trespassers spoilers#madame vastra#jenny flint#jenny x vastra#vastra x jenny#the paternoster gang#the paternoster gang rogues gallery#these bitches gay
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An Essay on the Ending/Cliffhanger of Trespassers Rogues Gallery
SO THAT ENDING, hU!
Okay. After having cried and screamed and sobbed about it, I have now theorised. I hope this is a relatively cohesive essay.
Putting it under a cut for obvious spoilers.
Okay. This has a few parts:
"Reg" (how I'll be referring to the clone) is in league with Jenny's parents
Jenny was kidnapped directly after the scene with Jenny's parents at the reception
Vastra knows it isn't actually Jenny.
(And another thing I want to mention is the psychic link)
"Reg" is in league with Jenny's parents
Jenny was kidnapped directly after the scene with her parents at the reception
"Or maybe I'm your mother. Or your father" UH. that's odd. I missed that line completely the first time round...
But think about it. In the opening scene, Albert mentions an alien they got for the circus. I am convinced that throwaway line is important. He and Miriam relentlessly made fun of Jenny for wanting a wedding, for having a wife. Miriam calls Strax and Vastra Jenny's "freaks"...
And then the fucking 180 to them wanting to attend the wedding???? Suspicious as fuckkkk. Why the fuck would they show up if not to cause misery in their daughters life. Which brings us to Part 2...
"We were supposed to be getting married today" Yeah the switch happened before the wedding... I mean, this at least implies that Jenny was still Jenny during all the preparations and the cutesy bits before. During the ten second makeout scene with Vastra.
Here's how it went down, in my eyes:
Reg approached as one of Jenny's parents before the wedding, with the other one. They talked to Jenny, Strax threatened them, Strax probably turns his back for a moment, the switch happens.
As I said, I wouldn't put it past either Albert OR Miriam to be in league with Reg to hurt Jenny and Vastra.
Vastra knows it isn't actually Jenny.
Interesting is also the dichotomy of "We're equals" (said by our Jenny) // "I am your servant (as you are mine)" (said by "Jenny"). It's the word choice that gets me; Jenny insisting she's not a servant, and "Jenny" using explicitly the word "servant" in the vows. (More on the vows in the next point)
So. They take Jenny to wherever she's locked up, "Jenny" goes to the wedding, the other parent either stays or is lost in the crowd, or goes home, content with having caused misery.
Listen to Jenny's wedding vows again. they are quite flat, there's at least part of Jenny's usual edge in her voice missing. (see also, she was COMPLETELY empty under Missy's hypnosis, this is a more subtle version of that voice) "There is not much else to say. I love you. Those words contain all my feelings for you" (paraphrased now) Those words don't even BEGIN to describe their feelings and their relationship towards each other. The "servant" line, as mentioned above, immediately ticked me off. The almost repititious "I love you. I love you. I love you." of "Jenny" in the vows, she says it three times. It's almost like the words lose their meaning through that repetition in such a deflated tone.
The Doctor barges in, and brings up the topic of doppelgangers again. "Jenny" is quite insistent on moving on from that, not deal with the doppelganger business, on proceeding with the wedding. Which prompts Vastra to say “We never DID get to the bottom of this..." The doppelgangers are 100% still on her mind, she knows the case isn't closed, as you'd say.
On Jenny's insistence the wedding does proceed, and Vastra says “It’s not like… anyone is in immediate danger” ....... The sarcastic undertone??? I have studied this woman’s voice for years, I know when she is being sarcastic. She bloody well knew something was off but she’s just trying to figure out what happened to Jenny, when it happened, and why. And she can’t very well do that during the wedding ceremony. It might be (as my good friend @simpingforwomen24-7 indicated) that Vastra doesn't know if Jenny is safe - which she isn't, really - and that she plays along just how Ten played along in The Sontaran Strategem. (Thanks for that thought btw!)
In the very last scene, Vastra asks "Jenny" if this is what she wanted, and "Jenny" says, “Trust me” to which Vastra responds, “With all my life, Jenny Flint, all my life” Vastra says – to the clone – that she trusts Jenny Flint with all her life. She hardly ever, in any of the audios, addresses her as "Jenny Flint", always going for "Jenny", or some term of affection. I think it carries quite some significance that she insists on saying "Jenny Flint" here...
The Psychic Link
Conclusion
Maybe I am delusional, or maybe I am completely right or at least on the right track with this. One factor that Big Finish either forgot or purposefully didn't bring up yet, Vastra and Jenny have a psychic link. It's established in "Deep Breath" and has been used in "A Photograph to Remember" as well, albeit only shortly. I think the fact BOTH other audios in this set had instances of a sort of psychic link carries quite some significance ("When I close me eyes, I feel that, sad" Jenny about the psychic presence of the Ghost in the first audio, and then Vastra's connection to the Pterodyctyls.) and will become relevant later on in for instance the rescue of Jenny - that better happen soon, or else...
I believe that Vastra might be searching for a trace of Jenny with her psychic link? We'll find out in six months but I'll probably write this into a fanfic before then.
In conclusion, this is - of course - only a theory, but I do think it holds water. Six months is a cruel wait for the continuation after this cliffhanger, let that be said. My final sentence shall be a plea to Big Finish: LET THE WIVES BE HAPPY, GODDAMMIT!
Thank you for coming to my TED talk. I shall be writing fanfic now, starting with fluff and some fix-its...
#trespassers rogues gallery#trespassers spoilers#meta analysis#madame vastra#jenny flint#jenny and vastra#jenny x vastra#vastra x jenny#vastra and jenny#the paternoster gang#strax#commander strax#doctor who#doctor who meta#big finish audio#big finish#eighth doctor#8th doctor
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Me until Veil Guard comes out
#dragon age#dragon age veil guard#dragon age veilguard#da4#dragon age spoilers#inquisitor lavellan#solavellan#the solavellan is subtle but it's there lol#cool dwarven-made prosthetic#post trespasser#dragon age conspiracy theories#the dragon age iceberg goes deep#dragon age inquisition#dai
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How they wrote the Solas Romance in Trespasser lmaoo (video) (x)
#Dragon Age#Inquisition spoilers#Trespasser DLC#Solas#John Epler#someone stop Trick Weekes#otp: ar lasa mala revas
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Finishing with a quest line in the Trespasser DLC. I played as an elf and went to talk with a Sera that loves the Inquisitor. The first thing she does is ask if they're okay with the revelations. Then I pick up her journal and it's a reminder to, "Ask if he's okay— important— elfy things matter to him. Says he is okay but keep watch anyway." (To paraphrase). I love Sera.
#sera dragon age#dragon age inquisition#dragon age#trespasser dlc#dai#dragon age spoilers#sera dai#sera da#sera vivienne cole and dorian feel like the most emotionally rewarding relationships for the inquisitor at the end (to me)#what a battle it took sera and the inquisitor to get to this point over elven lore
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"I would not have you see what I become."
"Vhenan." He whispered in a broken voice, looking away in shame.
He didn't want her to ever see him like this. He wanted Lavellan to have forever remembered him as the humble apostate painting frescos in the Rotunda, lending stories of wisdom and the Fade. The man who loved her, who almost gave up everything to just be with her. He wanted her to remember him as Solas. Thus keeping the memory of his truest self alive and safe inside her heart.
😭😭
#solas#solavellan#dragon age#dragon age inquisition#fenharel#solas x lavellan#solas x inquisitor#veilguard spoilers#solas x female lavellan#solasmance#solas romance#solas and Lavellan#dread wolf#finale#trespasser
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Solas is absolutely not an old boomer, because he’s something infinitely funnier: an old zoomer.
Literally his core personality trait is being the world’s most unsalvageable iPad kid. This boy spent not one second of his childhood without access to the internet. This is an ancient, millennia-old elf who grew up on spiderman elsa.
#but the spiderman elsas were too well-wrought#and Pride stopped her hand#dragon age shitpost#dragon age#dragon age spoilers#solas dragon age#dragon age inquisition#dragon age inquisition spoilers#dragon age trespasser#trespasser spoilers#arlathan#elvhenan#vir dirthara
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Trespasser got me thinking bout that bald elf.
#sorry yall. im not gonna shut up about this game for a little bit here#im definitely not 10 whole years late to the party but here i am#dai spoilers#dragon age inquisition spoilers#dai trespasser#solas dragon age#solas#lavellan#dai#dai trespasser spoilers#indigo star jarvis#inquisitor lavellan#da inquisition#art#my art#screenshot redraw#artwork#my artwork#digital art#dreamerx86
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I found this in a locked room with treasure in at the bottom of Dock Town
#dragon age rook#dragon age the veilgaurd spoilers#the veilguard#da: the veilguard#veilguard photomode#da4 tag#datv rook#solas dragon age#datv#da4 spoilers#dragon age 4#da4#dragon age spoilers#dragon age#solas#trespasser#dragon age veilguard#veilguard spoilers#dragon age the veilguard#veilguard#dr
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hey chat i got really in my head about how solas leaves clues for lavellan to follow for TEN YEARS because he wants her to save him from himself and then i got in my head about how every time she asks him to abandon his plans he says some iteration of, “i can’t,” never, “i won’t,” “i don’t want to,” etc.
i’m so sure someone has said this before— i haven’t seen it but i know the dragon age girlies (genderless) are feral for a theory— but is he himself “mythal’s creature,” as he tells lavellan she will be after the well of sorrows? all through inquisition/ trespasser/ the years that follow, can he literally not stop himself because everything he did with the veil is tied to vengeance for mythal?
is he truly counting on his friends (or his heart) to save him because he can’t?
#solavellan#solas#solas meta#if y’all have thoughts lemme hear em#do not put spoilers in the replies tho pls. we can chat in the dms if we’re in datv spoiler territory at any point#dragon age inquisition#datv#dragon age#dragon age trespasser#solas dragon age#solasmance#lavellan#mythal#evanuris
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this is my roman empire
#solas#solavellan#filed under: it hurts so good here in solavellan hell (:#dragon age inquisition#trespasser dlc#dragon age spoilers
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Da’fen
#artists on tumblr#artwork#digital art#art#my art#dragon age the veilguard#dragon age inquisitor fanart#dragon age dreadwolf#dragon age lavellan#solas dragon age#dragon age inquisition#dragon age oc#dragon age trespasser#dragon age#dragon age fanart#solas x female lavellan#fem lavellan#lavellan#solavellen hell#solas dread wolf#da solas#solas x inquisitor#solas dai#solavellan#solas#da: the veilguard#veilguard spoilers#veilguard fan art#dread wolf#fen’harel
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Hey do you think Jenny and Vastra individually practiced their vows in front of Strax and when the vows during the wedding aren't what Jenny practiced with him, Strax immediately knows something is wrong.
#trespassers spoilers#look i will say that both of them realised during the wedding until the day I DIE#big finish you know I'm right#strax#commander strax#madame vastra#jenny flint#jenny and vastra#jenny x vastra#the paternoster gang#vastra x jenny#vastra and jenny#paternoster gang#paternoster gang trespassers#rogues gallery
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The Dread Wolf inspires hope in my friends and fear in my enemies.
#gamingedit#daedit#daedits#solas#solavellan#lavellan#dragon age#dragon age inquisition#dragon age the veilguard#trespasser dlc#dai#dav#datv#dav spoilers#fen'harel#mine#mine: da#idk if im happy with this but i also dont know what to do *drops this on the floor like a discarded toy*#dailygaming#miyku#thefathersbride#shadowglens#op81s
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Please remember at all times that Solas is your boyfriend (x)
#Dragon Age#Inquisition spoilers#Trespasser DLC#Solas#John Epler#someone stop Trick Weekes#otp: ar lasa mala revas
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seeing people hate on Solas for being ethically inconsistent like??? yes??? that's the whole tragedy of his character. he literally cannot be ethically consistent in the world state HE CREATED. that's why he's so damn sad. it's impossible for him to live with good conscience in a broken world that is a byproduct of his error. the veil put the world on mute and the veil is deteriorating. and he's supposed to just let it come down on it's own (causing certain mass destruction)??? or he could pull it down himself in his own way (with at least a slightly larger chance that something good might come of it in the future), something he at least has control over.
the plotlines of each game have reinforced the idea that the veil is certainly deteriorating.
solas's spell cannot hold back the fade forever. he fucked up. he either has to sit back and watch the world burn because of his error (again), or he has to somehow try to make things somewhat right. ethically inconsistent? it's literally the train problem. kill one person to save five, or kill five people to save one? no one can be perfectly ethically consistent when they have no ethical choices left. solas's choice to bring down the veil aligns perfectly with his character when you consider that he has more access to information than we do about what exactly he is doing. he's not telling us the whole truth. he's not going to sit back and let things happen naturally, he's going to do what he can to mitigate the damage and make it better (which is ethically consistent with his character).
just like he chastises us for siding with the grey wardens or drinking from the well - he does so because he knows more about the elven gods and the nature of the blight than we do, not because he's a bitter hypocritical douche who hates fun. solas has made so many mistakes that he destroyed his own people, in his mind the only way to right that is to correct his mistake as best he can, even if it causes mass destruction, because the alternative in his mind is certain doom. the veil is an unnatural mage-made construct. it was never meant to be there in the first place and was never meant to be permanent.
#I'm a Solas bringing down the Veil is actually the only option Thedas has to survive truther#I'm just saying he's logically and ethically consistent if you consider things from the POV that the Veil is coming down no matter what#This is speculation based on the hints we've gotten in all of the games and the trailers and gameplay for datv#I'm open to being completely wrong and looking like a crackhead#solas posting#dragon age inquisition#dragon age#dragon age the veilguard#dai#datv#bioware#Veilguard posting#Dragon age inquisition spoilers#trespasser spoilers#dai spoilers#solas dragon age#Solas#solas dai#dragon age trespasser#Datv spoilers#veilguard spoilers
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