#Time Aspect

[dukuroyu]

Made a couple wallpapers based on the beta kids aspects

(heavily inspired by this post)

[alicesoinions]

Aspects

My views on Homestuck's Aspects. Part of this analysis is the idea that Aspects have relationships to each other, each bringing the other about.

I will use my own custom Aspect symbols throughout, but the analysis itself is based on canon.

Space

Space is the Aspect of beginnings, of new things. Space experiments and improvises. Space cares about what is possible now, and cares more about the discoveries made in a journey than about a specific endpoint. Space is infinite discovery and potential.

Space is represented by art, fashion, atoms, and frogs.

Space is the color of the night sky, empty beyond human perception, endless and unfathomable but not featureless. Inky darkness, dotted by stars. Space has no color at all, which sometimes results in it using Sburb’s default texture.

Space is opposed to the Aspect of Time.

Space is the fundamental force of creation that gives rise to the duality of Life and Doom well as the unknown mysteries of Void.

Void

Void is the Aspect of the unknown. Of hidden, ill-defined things impossible for us to know or give names to. Void is the Aspect of true reality, of things on a spectrum, of quantum and biology.

Void is represented by water, darkness, and pumpkins.

Void is the color of deep waters, hiding what lies within; its color somewhere on a gradient, but impossible for humans to pinpoint or define no matter how long they stare; Void is the shifting hues of the color of the sky.

Void is opposed to the Aspect of Light.

The unexplored unknowns of the Void hide the untapped potential that is Space, leading to new creation.

Life

Life is the Aspect of agency and self-direction. Life is self-directed and idealistic; Life concerns itself primarily with what Life wants to do, not caring for obstacles or drawbacks. Life sees an infinitude of options, and picks the one it desires.

Life is represented by plants, food, coins, and wealth.

Life is opposed to the Aspect of Doom.

The ultimate freedom to do whatever one wants eventually leads to the ennui of Breath. The interplay of Life and Doom leads to defining one's self in Heart or hiding in Mind.

Doom

Doom is the Aspect of fate and constraint. Doom has burdens and limitations; Doom concerns itself with practical issues instead of lofty ideals. Doom sees no escape or negotiation, going with what others demand of you.

Doom is represented by skulls, death, and fire.

Doom is opposed to the Aspect of Life.

The practical matters and the knowledge of our limits leads to the endless toil of Blood. The interplay of Life and Doom leads defining one's self in Heart or hiding in Mind.

Breath

Breath is the Aspect of detachment. Breath goes with the flow, not caring about anything or anyone in particular; Breath does whatever feels right in the moment, not worrying about much.

Breath is represented by wind, leaves, and rivers.

Breath is opposed to the Aspect of Blood.

The freedom of exploration of and detachment of goals leads to the compromise and negotiation of Hope and to exploration of the self in Heart.

Blood

Blood is the Aspect of effort. Blood has lofty expectations, from both itself and others, and runs itself ragged to accomplish all of them. Blood cares intensely about what it does, without rest or thought.

Blood is represented by blood, sweat, stone, and iron.

Blood is opposed to the Aspect of Breath.

The exertion and toil of Blood eventually lead either to hiding in Mind or to the revolution of Rage.

Heart

Heart is the Aspect of self and emotion. Heart is a person's identity and definition, their emotions and their friendships and their biases. Heart goes with its gut. Heart cares about what its heart directs it to.

Heart is represented by music, hats, and horses.

Heart is opposed to the Aspect of Mind.

Heart’s loyalty and instinct lead to the upheaval of Rage and Heart’s caring nature leads to Blood.

Mind

Mind is the Aspect of thought and masking. Mind coldly adapts itself to circumstance, hiding the true self in order to blend in with what's acceptable. Mind is impartial. Mind weighs all the options, and picks the one most suited to the situation.

Mind is represented by masks, blindfolds, and scales.

Mind is opposed to the Aspect of Heart.

Mind’s bottling of emotions leads to the real detachment of Breath; and Mind’s adaptive nature leads to Hope.

Rage

Rage is the Aspect of rebellion. Rage is skeptical of what society presents as true, and fights tooth and nail for what it stands for. Rage riots and fights back; Rage would sooner bring revenge than healing. Rage fights for sudden change.

Rage is represented by fangs, beasts, and waves.

Rage is opposed to the Aspect of Hope.

In fighting against their shackles, one gains the newfound options of Life. Rage’s sudden changes forms half of the past events of Time.

Hope

Hope is the Aspect of diplomacy. Hope believes everyone is good at heart, and that everything could be solved if only everyone talked things out. Hope has blind faith and will sooner comfort a friend than hurt an enemy. Hope solves things slowly and steadily.

Hope is represented by religion, ribbons, and blankets.

Hope is opposed to the Aspect of Rage.

Hope’s compromises and negotiations lead to new shackles in the form of Doom. Hope’s slow changes form half the past events of Time.

Time

Time is the Aspect of the past. Time is concerned with traditions, patterns, and the inevitability of what came before. Time brings the authority of established rules and governance. Time looks to what was to decide what will come about.

Time is associated with gears, crowns, sand, and clocks.

Time is the color of a gear turning to rust, of blood leaving a vein, of a game timer running out. Time powers shine in all colors at once before they settle on one.

Time is opposed to the Aspect of Space.

The knowledge of the established patterns of Time leads to the knowledge and definition of Light.

Light

Light is the Aspect of definition. Light has clear rules, clear definitions, and clear answers. Light creates frameworks of understanding and puts things in black and white, right and wrong, relevant and irrelevant, which can sometimes lead to ignoring the gray areas between. Light is the Aspect of human knowledge of the world, our ideas, stories, and sciences.

Light is represented by the sun, fire, and compasses.

Light is the blazing color of the sun, impossible to look at for long, but shining its light everywhere, a white light that returns as a myriad of colors.

Light is opposed to the Aspect of Void.

The sharp delineations of Light ignore the gray areas outside definition, creating Void.

[itsmuffiiee]

If Sun was a space player, would Moon be time?

Are you asking me about my theories? I’ve waited years for someone to ask me about my theories! Hold on-

So! I’m assuming your coming from my gift art to the growing sun? In which case hii! welcome!! Thank you for stopping by! Please excuse the mess I’m currently renovating the place ::P

I think personally their specific version of sun is a space player! While I can definitely see OG sun as a space player as well, linafoxofficial sun is someone def burdened by their aspect. I would say maybe leaning towards a active class? truth be told I’m actually very bad at classpecting! However Suns manipulation of physical space and their love for crafting def leans into the aspect :) maybe a knight of space as even though knights are known as the more active class seem to work well for others

!! I think moon could make a great time player! ::) mostly the fact- moon quit literally stops you from time traveling in game! Bro is working hard to keep that time line correct! If sun and moon had a two player session it would also mean they would have a chance at success! And I would like to imagine they could pull off creating a new universe haha

!! As for other possible aspects for OG DCA: I can see them as Doom, Hope, Rage, Life, Space- LIGHT? VOID? BLEH!! So many possibilities. Suns need for attention and general theater kid personality I think leans well to the light aspect. I also think this is the most boring a literal aspect you can give sun.

If sun and moon had to share a classpect being in the same body I would say a prince of light or a bard of rage ^^ based on their role in the narrative. They give off destruction class vibes!

[starkeaton]

I think a lot of people dont understand the Space and Time aspects from Homestuck. It's ok, I also used to not get it. But what is it that confuses people about these aspects? Certain things are agreed on about them:

Space is creation and Time is destruction.

Space is beginnings and Time is endings.

Space is setting and Time is plot.

Space is visual art and Time is music.

Space is breadth and Time is fate.

But WHY are these things true? What is the throughline? What is the core of these aspects that makes them all of these things?

Space = Existence justifies existence

Time = Action justifies existence

Space is all about existence. It offers infinitely expansive choice, with no endgoal. The only goal of Space is to have fun and see what ideas you can create. It is existing just to exist, enjoying that for what it is.

Time is all about action. It's all the end-goals and accomplishments of life, and the limitation of choice into one specific outcome- fate. It is existing to get things done, to accomplish something meaningful.

You let Space rule your life, and you'll never get anything done, you won't make any progress. You let Time rule your life, and you'll never enjoy the smaller moments of peace.

(This also means that Time is Meat and Space is Candy, by the way.)

[3proutboy]

Homestuck aspects but objects concepts!!

I’ll need to add some adjustments for time n heart (need to add a musical aspect to time and a hat for heart)

More concepts here BD

Prob goin to make void into the canvas, and doing hope’s concept next!

Also im a total newbie at homestuck so its not a surprise if im goofing up bro- o(-(

[brospit]

Homestuck Aspect Favicon

BS: Here's some Favicons! Mostly images I just shrinked, haven't posted anything like this on here before, so here.

[dimensionnotfound]

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[oh-valentine]

Just the kins!!!

Dave level one: the type of high you get when you still got shit to do later but it just makes it easier to calm down the nerves and listen to some music

Aradia level two: yapper high, girl has the giggles and her volume control is nonexistent, she is the current life of the party and she will nap so good later

Caliborn level three: man has the munchies, bro is not keeping it together he’s not masking he’s semi verbal at best, he is experiencing ego death

[chronolatry-art]

updated my trollsona <3

[publiusscipiospqr]

Old randomly generated Classpects

Prince of Time + Mage of Blood

Maid of Rage + Sylph of Breath

Rogue of Light + Knight of Doom

Thief of Void + Seer of Hope

Page of Heart + Bard of Life

If you have any idea on how this session would go, please let me know!

[heirofnepeta]

time aspect person who uses fistkind because it lets them *clock* their opponents. is this anything

[en8y]

[IMAGE ID: two rectangular flags with six horizontal stripes each. the first flag's stripes, from top to bottom, are as follows: golden yellow, yellow-orange, pastel yellow, white, bright red, and dull red. the second flag's stripes, from top to bottom, are as follows: dark red, bright red, white, pastel yellow, bright yellow, and golden yellow. END ID.]

hope with time undertones: a term for when one is hopebound, but also has time undertones. when one is mostly hopebound, but is also timebound to a lesser degree.

hope with time overtones: a term for when one is hopebound, but also has time overtones. when one is usually hopebound, but it's being overshadowed by time.

not necessarily a gender/etc, but can be! tags are for reach.

@radiomogai @liom-archive @obscurian

[alicesoinions]

The Color of Space (and of Time)

Space is black-and-white and Time is red. Right?

[Some flashing colors under the cut]

The Space Aspect isn't black.

The Space Aspect is the color you see when you look up at the night sky — not the color of something that's black, but the color of endless nothing, punctuated by stars and nebulae. Not the black of absence, but the black of the infinite vastness of space.

This is the color of Space:

Space is, of course, also Green. Jade, Kanaya, Calliope; all green. Just like the empty black of space, this is the empty green of Sburb. The green that Sburb uses in the absence of texture.

And Time, of course, is Red. Just like Dave, Aradia, or Caliborn.

The red of an iron gear rusting away with time. The red of blood leaving a vein as someone's pulse dims. The red the little timer turns in Mario when you're taking too long on a stage.

That is the color of time.

But it's not the only one; Time has all of the colors.

Before a single result — a single timeline — is decided on, Time is every color at once, seemingly shifting before our eyes. Multiple colors, multiple options, converging into one.

Time is Red, but also every color at once.

Space is Green, but also black and white.

Do you like the color of the sky?

[fandom-err0r]

o sylph of time!

[sburbian-sage]

I really don't get why Time is a mandatory aspect. You don't need it for frog breeding, you can just use appearifiers or whatever. You don't always need to scratch the session, so you don't need their land construct. And unless you're in a weird situation, you shouldn't need to change stuff to adhere to the alpha timeline- the POINT of the alpha timeline is that it's "the way that things go", right? The only way you'd ever need a Time player keep you on track is if you were already under a Time player's influence, right???

But I guess I must be wrong, because I hear the opposite so often...

You could *THEORETICALLY* get away with just using Sendificators and Appearifiers to replicate Time Travel, but it's a lot like using the oven to boil water. Not to mention, Time Players are still useful-bordering-on-mandatory. Time Travel is borderline worthless if you aren't a Time Player because it's heavily unintuitive, the Whispers are your only in-game tutorial, and I'm pretty sure that unless you are a current or Native Time Player, the game actively obfuscates your practical knowledge concerning how to use it. So even if you know what you're doing, SBURB might just cloud your mind and make you perform a basic paradox through easily avoidable accident. It's why I don't like thinking about Time that much.

Like, I'm pretty sure that what you said is true, in that there can only be a Doomed Timeline if someone fucks with Time in the first place. But it might not be a desirable Alpha Timeline. Like maybe one of your players blows up their microwave and dies, and they end up breaking the Server/Client Entry Loop which leads to half of the other players dying, which damns the Session to failure. If that's the Alpha Timeline, then nothing can be done about it/shikata ga nai. But does that necessarily need to be the Alpha Timeline? Because if a Time Player is active (or will be active in the future), then they could step out of nowhere and reveal that the microwave exploding actually created a Doomed Timeline, and thus they "put it back on track" by making sure that player removes their fork from their microwavable noodles before cooking them. From your perspective, a Time Player just stole your fork for no reason, but from their perspective, a Doomed Timeline happened, and they averted it. As opposed to them not doing that, because they didn't exist, and so this Doomed Timeline becomes the Alpha Timeline? Surely you understand what I'm getting at.

It should also be noted, every Land is "broken" in same way on purpose, so the Player has a quest they can go on, so they have a reason to play the game (outside of "this is your life now, do it or die"). So in the same way that the current universe's Genesis Frog is dying, necessitating that the Space Player breed a new one so a new universe can be created, it's not unreasonable to assume that the timeline is innately flawed, and so a Time Player is needed to fix it. To say nothing of the fact that Space and Time are fundamental forces in any universe, and the Genesis Frog requires the efforts of both to be done. So basically, Time is a mandatory Aspect, because the game is fundamentally constructed in such a way that they are mandatory. There is no other way, it cannot be helped/shikata ga nai.

[seldomdrawncherubs]

explanation > my hatchmate is a prince of time

explanation > most of our sessionmates have had personal problems with another time player

explanation > a very destructive lord to be specific

explanation > because of this my hatchmate sees her classpect as something evil and destructive

explanation > i dont want her to think her classpect makes her a bad person as she has struggled with such thoughts before

explanation> shes a huge fan of your blog so maybe if i showed her this she would believe me when I say a prince of time can be good

explanation > so

request > any suggestions on ways a prince of time can use their aspect constructively

uu: WHY WOuLD YOu WANT TO DO THAT?

uu: THIS IS WHY PRINCES AREN'T GIRLS. THEY TAKE ALL THE FuN. OuT OF GRATuITOuS DESTRuCTION.

uu: START SHOWING THE OTHER TIME PLAYER. WHO IS BOSS. BY BREAKING TIME RELATED THINGS. SuCH AS THEM.

uu: TIME IS EASY TO BREAK THINGS WITH. THIS SHOuLD NOT BE HARD.

***

UU: answer the qUestion, dUmbass. or can yoUr boy brain not think of how to Use yoUr own aspect to bUild?

***

uu: SHuT uP SHuT uP SHuT THE FuCK uP.

uu: FINE! YOu COuLD JuST NEuTRALIZE THE POWER WITH THE PRINCE POWER.

uu: IT WOuLD BE EASY. I AM SuRE THE FISH PRINCE. COuLD NuLLIFY JAKE'S POWER. IF HE EVER GOT HIS SHIT TOGETHER.

uu: WELL, PERHAPS NOT A PAGE. BuT A WITCH OR KNIGHT, YES

uu: OR YOu COuLD DESTROY THEIR MACHINATIONS. BY RAPIDLY AGING THEIR STuFF. AND DECAYING IT. IF THEY ARE THIS MuCH OF AN ASSHOLE. MY STuPID SISTER. WILL PROBABLY ALLOW IT.

uu: ARE YOu HAPPY NOW?

***

UU: yes, actUally!

UU: yoUr sister's power is the perfect foil to other time players', bUt princes act like their opposite aspects.

UU: many space players are nonconfrontational Until pUshed very far...

UU: that is why it will be Up to yoUr sister to find coUrage, and once she does, she will show her power. this is mostly a thing for Us space players, bUt it is twice as trUe for a prince.

UU: the prince and bard have hard powers to control, thoUgh...perhaps a close friend or moirail coUld stay close to help her get them in control, if she is afraid of what they do.

UU: good lUck! and remember, a prince of time does two things!

UU: destroy yoUr own time: make yoUrself bUsy and occUpied

UU: destroy with time for yoUr own end; this means what caliborn said aboUt neUtralizing or Using fear will likely not happen Until she is wronged personally.

UU: bUt still, i do hope yoU take the more protective and less crUel roUte...