#They are on the aroace spectrum but they don't know that yet lol
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Blue, by "zesty" and "fruity", people mean they think you might be cut-sleeve. You know, homosexual? There's all sorts of new words/slang that have popped up over the years and those two are just some of them!
— Pisces Anon ♓️
#blue answers#blue art#blue prince [lmk oc]#lego monkie kid oc#pisces anon#They are on the aroace spectrum but they don't know that yet lol
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### Honkai Men & How They Kiss ###
Featuring Dan Heng, Blade, Jing Yuan, Aventurine.
warnings: I only started playing, so this might end up ooc; no other warnings rlly.
english isn't my native language!
''I probably won't get that invested,'' well maybe I should shut my mouth more; bone app the teeth!
DAN HENG
This can both count of just Dan Heng, or Imbibitor Lunae (if you prefer imagining him); I doubt there'd be any difference in their character, which is why I don't feel like specifying - it's up to whoever you, the reader, prefers.
Firstly, I believe that Dan Heng is someone who initiates affection more privately, less frequently or dramatically in public; You'll probably find yourself initiating the majority of your kisses with him!
But, when it does come to kissing, he's a gentle soul; Maybe not even gentle, but...hesitant of sorts. That hesitance does not come from an uncertainty regarding his feelings toward you - I'd call it a...worry, a ''fear'', of sorts.
That aside, there is something that just...makes your heart skip a beat, makes you giddy when he kisses you. Your forehead against his after a long kiss, unable to stop yourself from smiling. He's soft, gentle with his kiss.
There's no ''fleeting'' kiss with Dan Heng; he'll either kiss you properly, or not at all. Still, I can see him be someone to kiss your cheek, forehead, or palm/hand - but rather in private than in public!
While some people might see him that way, I personally do not see him as someone who is ''aggressive'' or ''intense'' in a sexual sense during kissing (might also be my aroace ass speaking, idk) - sure, maybe kisses might turn into a slightly heated make out session, but nothing ''extreme''.
When it comes to what kisses he loves, I believe he would enjoy kisses on the cheek, though there is nothing he loves more than feeling your lips on his.
BLADE
I've only met him briefly in-game yet (only now finished the quest w/ the Xianzhou and heading to Penacony), so...I'll try my best, lol.
Before I got into the game again & read some more about him, my initial thought was that he'd be a ''possessive'' person, but I highly doubt that (or kinda...refuse to think that? I dunno), and I'd say he can be...a little of a wildcard?
While I can see him be a ferocious, ''aggressive'' kisser on some occasions, I do believe he can also be found on the other end of the spectrum.
Blade's kisses can be intense, demanding almost, biting down on your lip and clearly asserting dominance while kissing you, making you struggle to keep your balance; He'll whisper to you, speak under his breath while you can barely catch your breath.
Then there's the other end of the spectrum, when his kisses almost seem...fragile? Absent? Like he's...not fully there, or not fully himself. He'll not be one to initiate much affection during this time, which is also how you know that something's currently not right with him.
Last, there are the ''normal'' kisses - no aggression and demand behind them, yet they aren't absent either. A normal, brief kiss that only you can really tell the genuine emotion behind, since to most people Blade's expression would indicate he'd much rather be somewhere else.
When it comes to receiving kisses, I don't think he generally has a preference there? Or would even be big on receiving kisses specifically? At least behind close doors I can see him be someone who'd much rather have you hug him or hold him.
JING YUAN
Ah, Alejandro Saab my beloved; I didn't think I'd love the guy this much when I first started playing, lol.
A confident man indeed, especially when it comes to the love you two share, for your relationship. His genuine admiration and adoration for you are evident to most people, though he knows when to be subtle or act in a way that hides his emotions.
Jing Yuan can be a tease, though mostly behind close doors; He'll have you close, his arm around your waist, his lips hovering above yours, yet he refuses to kiss you, watching you grow impatient as he pulls away anytime you want to close the distance.
When he does kiss you, he does so with passion. His kisses are on the more sensual side, leaving you breathless and longing for more. He'll have you completely undone after just a short makeout session, leaving you with a wink and teasing smirk on his lips.
In private, when you are alone, away from responsibilities and work, when he has time to think, to remember the past...that smirk might still be present whenever you want his attention, but it feels fake. During those times, whenever he'll reach for you to kiss or hold you, he'll be lost in his own thoughts, though you always help him feel grounded, and guide him back to the present.
He doesn't mind initiating affection in public either, though he does...behave himself more, lol; He'll kiss your cheek or the palm of your hand while at a commission, and you can also find him holding your waist when you're out in public - or allowing you to hold onto his arm.
Jing Yuan is also someone that just enjoys quality time; on those rare occasions when you two can relax and cuddle, there is nothing he enjoys more than napping in your arms; And, yes, he loves those sleepy kisses during those times, or in the early morning when you just woke up.
When it comes to your kisses, he prefers soft pecks on his forehead, or all over his face while you are cuddling - though there is nothing he loves more than having you play with his hair while you're cuddling/he's napping.
AVENTURINE
I've not met him yet, but he reminds me of an OC I have, which is why I automatically liked him, lol.
I want to say that he'd flaunt you around, be dramatic about your relationship, but I'm not sure that'd be a smart move, and I'm sure he'd be aware of that...anyway, he's someone that certainly makes love exciting.
He's even worse than Jing Yuan when it comes to his teasing smirk; Yet, he won't really be a tease, but rather more playful in his affection? Randomly slide up to you, twirl you close, brush his lips over yours while talking low before spinning you and then pressing a kiss to your lips, or dipping you and kissing your neck.
Definitely not one to shy away from being affectionate, though it is more on the casual-seeming side in the way he portrays it; He doesn't make a big fuss out of it - kissing you feels like it comes natural to him.
There were moments in which you were laying in his arms and you tried to steer the calm atmosphere in a more serious direction, though that only works up to a certain point with him and then he'll kiss you energetically to distract from that; also enjoys tickling you, but that's another thing.
His kisses vary in their kind; sometimes, they are brief and playful, while other times they are energetic and passionate, and so on. What is it called? A jack of all trades, though that figure of speech isn't entirely accurate, lol.
His public displays of affection are just as unpredictable as his affection in private; sometimes, he does not mind being affectionate around you, though he knows how to judge a situation well enough to hold back, or completely refrain from touching you.
When it comes to receiving affection, he's definitely obsessed with you just showering his face in kisses, sitting on his lap while he holds you close; or when you are cuddling and you just keep pressing kisses to his neck/throat/behind his ear.
[I have a Genshin version for some Men & Women, too]
#hsr x reader#dan heng x reader#hsr dan heng#blade x reader#hsr blade#jing yuan x reader#hsr jing yuan#aventurine x reader#hsr aventurine#hsr#honkai star rail#.writing#i got hungry mid-writing this. which is now. and I'm only writing Blade rn. so. See ya in 20mins.
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Okay, I did the best for now for this. Here's a carrd of the current VNs with canon rep for characters labeled as pan, ace, aro, demi, gray and aroace.
(Wanted to get this out on the start of Pan Week. 💗💛💙)
There's some ratings missing since either don't know them, or its too early for them to have a rating yet from the devs. So feel free to let me know if you know any of them, if available, so I can add them to the lists.
As well some lists got a little lazy in the end on order but only because there was just so little on the pages, I just didn't bother to organize right now. (will do that later on when I feel its needed finally)
Some links to some pages won't work since there's nothing there yet. But for links on active pages, if they are broken by chance or such. Feel free to let me know so I can fix them asap. Will appreciate it. (I can miss things by how easily I space out, so yeah lol)
Anyway, I hope this is helpful to anyone! Feel free to send any other characters to add to the lists if you have any. Be sure they have sources of course, else can't add them. 💜
Also a huge thank you to @queenlilithprime for the help on making this even possible for everyone. Appreciate ya so much. 💗💗💗
Lists can be found here too btw:
#;raven's posts 💜#visual novel#vn#yeah there's little rep on some lists. hope that changes in time though. 😭
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blog intro
i'm making a new intro to include my WIP's as well!
howdy! my name is Rose and i've been around for over a year now! i would love to meet more writers and overall cool people! this blog has a writing/book reading focus while also having a few other things here and there (so descriptive, ik)
i have two alt blogs as well. @eye-motive is my fiction podcast blog (The Magnus Archives. at this point it's only tma and tmagp and some Malevolent here and there) and then @sleepyrxserambles is random stuff that is not podcast or writing specific (it's the wild west on there)
DNI: bigots, TERF’s, ableist’s, homophobes, transphobes, interphobes, bots, you get the idea i hope: don't be a jerk
some quick facts though:
-xe/they nonbinary aroace spectrum being
-favorite games are open world rpg games, Animal Crossing and Omori
-i read a lot. most of it is high fantasy (but my true favorite books are actually shitty paranormal romance. 'mostly high fantasy' is a cover up i tell so i don't get judged even harsher by the people in my life for liking the books even though they make me stupidly happy)
-um...moving on from that rant. pasta salad is my favorite food (new lore unlocked)
-i like The Great Gatsby maybe a bit more then I would care to admit
-i like Sailor Moon. have for 7-8 years
-some favorite shows are Doctor Who, Good Omens, Dead Boy Detectives, Arcane, What We Do In The Shadows and Our Flag Means Death (please stop canceling my shows, streaming services)
-i also like watching vtuber’s in my spare time. I don’t have any particular favorites but I do watch Gavis Bettel and Ironmouse often
now, the WIP's! i'm only putting one for now because it's the only one i'm dedicated on working on, lol (it's below)
Harrison Weber And The Serial Murder Case Of The Theater Troupe (otherwise known as Harrison Weber And The Serial Murder Case On Oxford Street. i'll also make a better name eventually, promise)
in this WIP it is kinda like Sherlock Holmes with a twist. Oliver Briggs is the newest assistant to the big shot detective, Harrison Weber, known for his expertise in solving serial murder cases. Fresh out of college and still trying not to hurl at the sight of blood, Oliver has been assigned to take the lead on a new case so his boss can see what he is made of. There has been a murder in a local park and the victim turns out to be someone Oliver knows, his childhood friend. While trying to grapple with this loss, unexpectedly his old babysitter passes. Then his cousin. As he looks into their deaths he realizes that they are all connected by only three things; himself, the theater troupe his mother had been a part of and a deadly fire that happened 13 years ago. Will Oliver be able to find the killer before they kill again? Or will he have to suffer the loss of yet someone else he holds dear?
that is my first time writing a summery, lol. also the last two sentences are kinda bad but i needed a hook
also i don't want to say the twist but if you look at my other posts you can tell
but, some updates. i am currently working on fleshing out the characters so that they feel actually human and making a chapter outline. i haven't started to write the first draft yet but plan on doing it soon! i will update more here and on actual posts. i don't really write mystery so we'll see how it goes :D
thank you for reading! i really appreciate it :D stay safe, take care of yourself and remember to take it easy sometimes
#blog intro#new blog intro#current wip#wip summary#queer writers#writeblr#Harrison Weber And The Serial Murder Case On Oxford Street#Harrison Weber And The Serial Murder Case Of The Theater Troupe#idk how to tag this#creative writing
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I'm trying to say this in THE NICEST WAY possible, toxic shippers have the stupidest reasons for not shipping Huntlow
Heya! Now before I go into this please know I AM NOT a toxic/force shipper, I am not forcing you to ship Huntlow, simply just telling you why your reasons don't make sense and contradict to the canon versions of the characters of the show, and with that let's go
Reason 1: it's not possible for Hunter to trust Willow after Below possed him and in general
Oh. My. Fucking. Titan...Im just going to automatically assume you've never watched Any Sports In The Storm, that one part in Reaching out, Labyrinth Runners, Clouds On The Horizon, Kings Tide or the entirety of s3, I'M LITERALLY TRYING TO BE NICE BUT YOU ARE ACTUALLY FUCKING STUPID, Hunter trusts AND CARES Willow by first, in reaching out, giving her his penstegram account to chat, saving her from getting hurt in clouds on the horizon, yes, it's wasn't actually Luz, it was an illusion, and in the same episode Willow tried to save Hunter (or so she thought it does matter if it's actually Luz it just proves she cares about Hunter) and when Luz got captured by Kiki she was very anxious and hurrying everyone to get to Kiki to save Luz, yet again, don't come at me with just because it was illusion doesn't mean she dosent care about Hunter, she thought it was him, she cares about him a lot cause she was in a hurry to save him (or so she though it was him)! Hunter was comfortable and trusted her to cut his hair in thanks to them, in the same episode he wasn't uncomfortable with Willow holding him after the possession, in for the future HE LITERALLY SAYS HE CARES ABOUT WILLOW, NOT JUST GUS, WILLOW TOO, he comforted her after her breakdown and saved her and Gus, Willow trusts and cares about Hunter in ending of for the future by holding his hand (pinky promis?? Idk what to call it lol) and literally said "Thanks Hunter, you mean a lot to me to" which Hunter replied "yeah...sure, no problem"
Reason 2: they head canon either Hunter, Willow, or both of them as aroace, asexual, or on the spectrum
Oh. My. Titan, did you like know aroace/asexual people can like STILL DATE??? you completely misunderstand the meaning, just because they don't experience ALL ATTRACTION dosent mean THEY WON'T EXPERIENCE ANY, you know what "little to none attraction" means, it fucking means someone who has a bit, A BIT, NOT ZERO, THERE'S STILL A PIECE OF ATTRACTION THEY CAN HAVE FOR SOMEONE, I'm literally trying not to be as toxic as possible but people have the most fucking stupidest reasons
Reason 3: you ship Lunter/huntric/huntmira/boschlow/ect
Well that's fine, but those ships don't make sense in my eyes but I won't write an entire paragraph on why it doesn't make sense (I'm doing it after this post lol 💀💀) and also boschlow is literally toxic pookie it's not the enemies to lovers you want Boscha literally bullied her, if you think that's chemistry you're fucking stupid and never seen the entirety of s1
And hehe silly reason I'd like to add!!
Reason 4: they're bland, don't go well together, rushed, and have no chemistry
Oh my fucking Titan, OMG y'all! Did you know you could uncancel you're own show?! NO YOU CAN'T DUMB FUCK, it was rushed because it WAS FUCKING CANCELLED, SORRY POOKIE DANA CAN'T DO NO SHIT ABOUT IT, it's not like you can get rid of all the episodes and make it hunlow themed, sorry, we can't get all the things we want in life, and by saying that it wouldn't work by the first impression in ASIAS is stupid, sure Willow made a bad first impression but Hunter seemed mildly phased by this other than just being a bit spooked out and startled, and NO, HE DIDN'T JUST DEVELOP A CRUSH ON HER ON SPOT, sure, he could think Willows pretty, but that doesn't mean HE HAS A FUCKING CRUSH ON HER, and people saying that it's not a "half a with Hunter" because Hunters a grimwalker dosent make any sense, may I remind you this was made before hollow mind, he's still convinced he's a powerless witch by Belos lying about it to him, he thinks he's a half a witch while yes looking like a witch on the outside despite having no bile sack, and he doesn't seem to think as himself as weak like Willow does on the other hand, eh, I wouldn't mind if they took out the half a witch, and btw it's not supposed to be a romantical aspect it's supposed to be a similarity, people have also said she's only there to comfort him, even though that's apart of Willows personality, SHE'S THE RELIABLE ONE, LITERALLY SAYING IT IN FTF, she's supposed to comfort people, supposed to be the person everyone rely on, but thats not just her whole personality, based around her reliability, she's so much more than it! People say they think they're both better off as friends in their opinion, it's totally fine! I don't give a shit really, but if you're going to state a reason why you dont think a ship is realistic, then at least watch all the episodes they're in and use some common sense at least! It's the bare minimum!
And that's all!!! I hope you understand and if I made any incorrections please let me know!! I really hate toxic Lunter and huntric shippers, or shippers in general, they just make up excuses instead of saying that huntlow isn't their type of ship or they ship something else, but if you're a multishipper you're totally cool! (Even considered being a multishipper hehe)
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SURPRISE YALL
Intro post!! This is not a drill!!
Hello!! My name is Finn! I'm a teenager who's relatively new to Tumblr (I only started *really* using it over the course of this past month lol)!
I've always been really bad at intros of any type so uh BEAR WITH ME HERE
I write stuff! I haven't posted anything yet but I plan to! I'm mostly just nervous because my writing style is a lil bit strange
Also I draw things! Again, haven't posted anything for that yet :')
My running joke is that I live in the walls of everyone I wanna Interact with because I'm too nervous to interact with them! Kinda a strange joke I know but it started like a year ago in a discord server and I refuse to drop it because y e s.
I am about as straight as a silly straw. I'm on the aroace spectrum and I'm also GENDERFLUID WOOOO
My pronouns do switch but 99.9999999999999999% of the time They/Them is fine lol
Here have a rough visual description of me!
(Disclaimer: I don't have rats, sadly. I WANT RATS! but I have two cats who have already hunted down every single rodent in a 5 mile radius so I haven't even bothered asking my mom)
(Also this image that I'm also making my PFP was made using a piccrew that https://chemicataclysm.tumblr.com/ made!)
I currently have like 70
...000 WIPs but the big ones are:
AXERIM: Silly lil fantasy story completely innocent features dragon kiddoes definitely features no horrible trauma for either of the main characters no ma'am /heavysar (This story has torture scenes I have pushed my BOUNDARIES with it aaa)
CARLYLORE: a genetically engineered cat thing evades the law while trying to figure out what in the actual heck is up with their past
And
UNNAMED STORY: Follow someone as they explore other dimensions while trying not to go mad! There is much more I could put as a blurb but then I wouldn't know how to stop!
Stuff I like:
LEMON DEMON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (That band is one of my current hyperfixations and has been since February)
Writing (To the point that I have an entire channel in this one discord server to post stuff)
Watching other people talk about their stories
Yo-yos- Mainly butterflies and imperials but as soon as I get my hands on another kind I NEED to master it
money /hj
Foggy weather. FOGGY WEATHER!! I LOVE fog it's so MYSTERIOUS and COOL
I love hiKING
Alright uhhhh I'm gonna cut myself off here and simply write a better intro post later HAVE A GREAT DAY Y'ALL
Ok it is now later
I wanna say, if you are over 22 do not interact
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Ok so I just finished watching Shadow and Bone for the first time and I knew you had watched it before so I came to see what your opinions on some of it was. Didn't really see anything for what what is probably my favorite ship is but I don't really care about that right now. I think I'm more interested in knowing what you're Top 5 favorite ships are (Top 10 if you feel like you're having a hard time narrowing it down to just 5 but from what I saw, I don't think that would be a problem???). Also, if you feel up to it, any favorite headcanons for the various characters or ships you might want to include. Much love to you Phoe!!! Now I'm off to go consume for content because I need my pretty men... gods, why are there so many pretty men in this show 😭😭😭 a lot of pretty women too, though I'm gay so it's just aesthetically pretty on their part, lol
oooh you watched ot for the first time! I hope you liked it! And well now I'm cirious what your favorite ship was.
Since I only have exactly 10 ships in this fandom, I will give you a top 10! lol Though since these are all the ships, they actually do span the entire spectrum of "I am obsessed with this", "I've written for this" to "it's a nice sidepairing! I liked when they were on screen but don't really think about them when they're not".
Aleksander/Alina
Inej/Alina
Kaz/Jesper
Genya/Alina
Tamar/Inej
Nikolai/Mal
Nikolai/Alina
Tamar/Nadia
Jesper/Wylan
David/Genya
+ bonus: Tolya/poetry
because I definitely came out of this headcanoning Tolya as aroace and I want this softest of boys to find someone who will platonically share his love of poetry with him. Please. He deserves it.
Not a secret that Darklina is my OTP. I'm not exactly quiet about it. They make me feel all shades of unhinged. I gotta get onto writing about them, honestly, can't believe that hasn't happened yet, but I guess that s1 left me too satisfied with canon overall to want to write just yet. Currently nose-deep in fics about them.
Alina and Inej is a solid second. They didn't have much interaction but what they had was gold. The blade protecting her saint. The worship and awe. These two badasses. I love them. And, much like Alinej, both Kaz/Jesper and Genya/Alina were also ships I came out of s1 with and wrote for after that.
Honestly, Tamar/Nadia would rank higher if the show had dedicated more time to them, but they happened so much in the background and I'm genuinely mad about that. I had to sit through so so so much straight drama especially in this season, but the only wlw ship in this entire show and they barely got screentime. They were cute together, visually, but... I didn't get enough of what made them click, or of Nadia's personality in general to be quite honest, to be as invested as I wanted to be (because I did. I knew that Nadia was a wlw and I knew that Tamar would be introduced this season and I was looking forward to this). So, with what the show gave me? I was like "daw, cute" when they were on screen, yeah.
On the other hand, I love both Tamar and Inej, and the potential of Inej now on the ship makes me think of the potential of those two together. Now, I am a lover of poly so I would not be opposed to just mashing these two ships together either. But I'm really intrigued by Tamar/Inej primarily here.
Nikolai and Alina worked surprisingly well. Didn't think I'd end up with another guy for Alina aside from Aleksander. But I really liked their chemistry and the fake marriage plotline absolutely ended me. He could be her trophy husband, I wouldn't mind.
Jesper and Wylan were honestly a positive surprise to me! You know me, you know my track-record with canon mlm ships! I usually do not like them. So that they made the list at all is great. I'm not super invested, but I thought they were adorable.
And Genya and David were cute too. I don't get why they killed David off? From what I gather, they don't in the books, so that was weird. But I thought they were nice.
Headcanons? Mostly sexuality wise.
Ace Kaz. Ace Kaz was the first once I had. I know his touch aversion roots in trauma but I recognize a lot of my own sex-repulsion in his behavior and am projecting hard so ace Kaz. Also definitely dom Kaz, have you seen that man rule his club, or bring Pekka to his knees (not that I want Pekka to sub for him, ew, but the power Kaz radiated in that moment was *chef's kiss*).
Nikolai the pan pirate who definitely should never have been a prince, like, I would love him so much more if he had just been a pirate but thoughts on the monarchy and how that plotline was handled are too much for this post. ANYWAY yeah I think Nikolai should go back onto his ship and pirate away with his boyfriend. Also, just, can you believe the Enemies to Lovers arc Mal and Nikolai had? I mean, they literally went from "I refuse to know your name" to "take my name", like that is explicitly something that happened in canon. Wild.
Lesbian Inej, which I know, not a popular headcanon in the fandom since the fandom seems to unanimously ship her and her endgame romance. I just... don't really get romantic vibes there at all, even after season 2. I like them as friends, a lot. But I'm getting huge lesbian vibes from Inej and will be clinging onto that, even more so after how little wlw love s2 gave me.
Mal as a suppressed gay would be fun. Like, his thing with Alina was annoying. He didn't give a damn about her romantic feelings for him until she had a boyfriend and suddenly he got jealous. I don't like these types of writings. So I'd love to see that more as Mal never having been romantically interested in her at all, just friend!Mal afraid to be abandoned. The cheeky pirate is his gay awakening. All the girls - and apparently book!Mal was kind of a slut - were just him trying really hard to be straight.
Alina is just a bi queen. And queen literal. That's where the "Niko should go sail with his bf" part comes into play, because... the monarchy needs to go down. She should rule, she should have never supported the damn royal family that's been enslaving and oppressing Grisha for centuries, I just. I don't like that part. I really don't. Ship to rule beside her is optional (Aleksander, Genya, okay fine Nikolai but like she rules, he's just her trophy husband), but queen!Alina is a must. Though gotta admit for my Alinej I still love her as a part of the Crows - post s1, I wrote some where Alina and Mal just... stayed with the Crows after they left Ravka and I'm still fond of that. I still think that would be a fun take.
#Shadow and Bone#Shipping#Headcanons#Darklina#Malkolai#Alinej#Nikolina#Tamadia#Taminej#??? I am guessing??#Genyavid#Wesper#Genyalina#Kazper#tagging all the ships just to be on the blacklistable safe side#though I am unsure about Tamar/Inej and their ship name
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hey melliot ! is jason anywhere on the aroace spectrum ?? idk if i’m reading into it too much, but as someone on the aroace spectrum, i don’t know seemed very aroace spectrum-y to me lols
Hi! Thank you for the question- I'm glad you connected to Jason through that lens and his story resonated with you!
This is a common reading of Jason's arc, and I want to reiterate what I've said on this blog before about death of the author and our intentions with the work not making fan headcanons "wrong" or "inaccurate"- your readings and connections to the material give it life and meaning beyond what we could have possibly dreamed of on our own!
The short answer is that I didn't intend for Jason to read as somewhere on the aro/ace spectrum when I wrote his arc. The long answer is below the cut!
I didn't intend to code Jason as asexual/aromantic when I was writing Princes, partially because I did think about coding Jason as autistic and wanted to avoid the stereotypical "autistic and asexual" character archetype. I think ace readings of Jason tend to read Jason's autism-coded interactions towards Maya (which I wrote more about here; moments like "don't you think it's weird you've never seen my body?" "well I'm seeing it now, aren't I?") as lack of interest in romance/sex in general. When I was writing it, I intended for Maya's female gender presentation to affect Jason's attitude towards romance and sex when he's dating her, but these interactions are not supposed to be representative of Jason's attitude towards romance and sex in general (similarly with reading 'I Don't Know' as about asexuality or aromanticism; Jason's arc isn't done yet, and what he says he feels in 'I Don't Know' -- which I intended to be "I guess I'm not in love with this objectively attractive female-presenting person" -- is only one piece to the puzzle. "I Don't Know" was in many ways the predecessor of "I Love You, I Swear" -- except in the latter, the character is already fully conscious of his attraction to men.) Jason is not interested in romance/sex with Maya because he is not attracted to women (which, Maya's gender stuff nonwithstanding, is how Jason perceives her) -- but I intended him to read as very much attracted to Louis and wanting to have a romantic relationship with him (and enjoying that romantic relationship, once it begins).
I think another reason my intention for Jason to be explicitly attracted to men doesn't always get across is that Jason's arc, more than anyone else's, was conceived of as a narrative about internalized homophobia, which by necessity requires some sense of homophobia existing -- not always a given in the Princes world. The expectations for straight people in the palace aren't as fleshed out simply because everyone but Jason is already, publicly or privately, part of the queer counterculture. Unlike anyone else in the main 5, Jason is still really trying to be the Perfect Straight Guy, inside and out. He has to overcome his internalized homophobia and reject the privilege of being perceived as straight in order to admit his love for Louis- no small task, and one that sends him into a spiral of despair when he realizes simply performing love for a woman isn't enough for her or for him. I tried to leave hints of this throughout -- his flustered aside about Louis' outfit during Talk About It With You, the musical and lyrical contrast between I Don't Know and If I Knew You Then, his verse during Love and Everything -- but it's not given much screentime simply because he isn't the main character. His struggles with how to reject power that comes with a terrible cost provide a counterpoint to Louis', and therefore didn't need as much nuance as Louis' does.
To get a little personal, I have been thinking about how common this reading is for a while, actually. Without going into too much detail, when I was quite young, my lack of interest in a bad romantic partner lead me to conclude that I was asexual. Subsequently, I dated a series of women, both because I was expected to due to my gender presentation, and because I figured if I was asexual either way, not being attracted to them wouldn't be a problem. I got a bit older and discovered I was in fact attracted to men- those emotions and desires simply hadn't existed earlier because of my age and inexperience. (I want to make explicitly clear that for some people those desires never exist, and that is awesome! And that being allo is in no way "better" than being ace- it just wasn't the right label for me, and that mismatch was causing me distress the same way I imagine it does for ace people trying to be allo.) Finally allowing myself to admit that I was attracted to men as a man was such a relief that I wanted to explore this experience in the figure of a gay man dealing with compulsory heterosexuality in Princes, which was written shortly after I had this realization in the first place.
If I were to psychoanalyze the script, I think this personal experience I had is why some parts of Jason's arc resonate so strongly with the ace community- like me, he goes through a period of believing himself to be something like asexual and aromantic, so reading "I Don't Know" that way isn't totally antithetical to the intentions of the script. On a broader level, however, I think ace people connecting to Jason reflects a wonderful moment of queer solidarity- how it is a common queer experience, regardless of your specific orientation, to come up against where society's romantic and sexual expectations for you differ from what you really want. Having to navigate that struggle is something we'll all be dealing with as long as there is an assumed cisgender, heterosexual, allosexual default, and if my art helps another queer person get the confidence to say "screw you" to those norms and pursue what they want for themself, I'm completely happy.
~Mel
P.S. I used "ace" as a catchall term here for "asexual and aromantic," but I know they're very different! I'd say in my opinion that there's a stronger argument for Jason being asexual (in the text) than aromantic (in the text), since the text deals with Jason's desire for a romantic relationship with Louis more than his physical desire for him. I can see a very fun reading where Jason and Louis are both asexual and in a happy romantic marriage at the end, which would also tie into Louis' discomfort with the pressure to perform sexually for his previous partners. I'm also not trying to say that no reading of Jason as somewhere on the ace/aro spectrum is compatible with the text as written- for example, we never see him try to date men other than Louis, so he isn't explicitly not demisexual. I just wanted to clarify that I wasn't thinking of him that way when I wrote his arc, so ace readings are more of a happy accident.
#answered#msreporter#asks#jason bartok#the art of pleasing princes#taopp#this one is more personal so I'm going to make it unable to be reblogged. sorry gang#but thank you for asking!
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Hi Lilith!! If you don't mind and are okay in sharing, how did you find out that you are aplatonic? How did you come across that term? I've never heard of the term aplatonic before and just discovered it today thanks to you and I'm curious in learning more about it! If you don't mind of course.
Also I absolutely adore your blog! and your posts always make me feel better and make me proud to be aroace ���💛🤍🩵💙
Thank you so much and keep up the great work Lilith!!
ah I'm glad you enjoy my blog!! bless u for reading through all my novel-length posts lol thank you so much
I honestly came across aplatonic recently, on Tumblr as it so happens. I can't remember what account, but the term sort of resonated when I considered the sort of 'tertiary attraction' that some aros and aces have (ex. familial, aesthetic, etc.), that my perspective on friendship and companionship has always been different from what others describe.
I don't have a go-to way to describe it yet, since it's been a fairly new thing, and I'm still learning too, but it just makes sense considering my perspective on friendship to call myself aplatonic spectrum
I know there are some aplatonic centric blogs (can't remember off the top of my head, but I can tag in the comments later) if you want to check those out for a more distinct thought process regarding the term lol
again thank you for your support of my blog!
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Actor 1-9 >:3
ngl i'm kinda surprised this wasn't the first character i got because. gestures at my icon. i'm basically asking for this HFKLDSJF
1: sexuality headcanon
generally i'm a pansexual actor truther buuuut honestly that damn sexuality flexibility has slipped in again, like. any queer sexuality WILL make me happy with him. special honorable shoutouts to aroace spectrum actor who hasn't yet realized that no, this isn't how most people experience sexual and romantic attraction AND my aus where he's a lesbian though, those have a place in my brain forever <3
2: otp
acting attorney, always, forever. i'm also fond of throwing damien and/or ben in the mix sometimes, but. yeah. :')
3: brotp
him and william for SURE, these two wouldn't leave my head no matter how little i knew how to characterize the colonel hgklajsdf. also him and celine when i don't want them making each other miserable because as much as i love them as besties i also love when they're dysfunctional assholes lmao
4: notp
i.....don't know if i have any?? i'm not big on romantic willmark but idk if that means anything cuz i don't really hate it either ghlaskjf, i just have other preferences. it's also not that big of a ship so like, idk.
5: first headcanon that pops into my head
the real question is can i think of one that i haven't already rambled about on here before HFKLDSJF okay i know i've mentioned that i headcanon him with super curly hair, and i think that once he starts to settle down with y.n. more(/get more comfortable in his gender identity DON'T think i've forgot about transfem genderfluid actor it never dies) he starts to grow it out, but the thing is. he does not know how to take care of curly hair. and unfortunately, neither does y.n. (my self insert does not have curly hair lmao) so it's a lot of googling and trial and error to figure out how to take care of it......eventually they get a good routine for him though, which is good because he LOVES having long hair, it makes him feel so pretty 🥺 he also loves putting little barrettes/clips in it, i had the thought of him having little rose clips in it a while ago and hrhrghghhg he's so CUTE.....
6: favorite line from this character
okay i actively went and tracked this screenshot down because this line in date fuckin ruins me like
why does he say this about himself AHKLJKLDSF 😭 actor mark [REDACTED] kink confirmed ig
7: one way in which I relate to this character
ATTENTION WHORE LMAO. and on a more serious note the tendency to self destruct/isolate when we feel hurt but that's a little much for a fun ask game lol so ATTENTION WHORE!!
8: thing that gives me second hand embarrassment about this character
god. i adore him to bits but so much. so many. to choose one in particular the whole hero speech he gives damien makes me want to curl up into a ball and die like honey no please, stop talking 😭
9: cinnamon roll or problematic fave?
i know he's a problematic fave, but listen......in my heart he's done nothing wrong........my beloved....... ;_;
#regards to my notp answer btw i feel weird classifying rare ships as notps because. like. barely anyone ships them HFLKDSJF#there's ships i don't care for but for it to be a true notp for me it has to be shoved in my face a lot so. yeah </3#does that make sense to anyone lmaoo#anyway i see your mischievous face but honestly thank you for blessing me with the opportunity to ramble about my blorbo adlkfjLKDSFJ#i haven't rambled about him in so long......i missed him.......#shakes him gently. lovingly even#who killed markiplier#actor mark#marshy gets asks#cookieface678
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14 and 21 for the Pride OC asks? ^-^
Pride OC Asks!!!~
14. Do you have ocs on the aro or ace spectrum?
HOO BOY DO I. Most if not all of my characters will inevitably be aspec coded because I'm aroace, but here's a quick rundown of my canonically aspec characters:
Snow is partnering aroace, and sex repulsed and romance indifferent. She's in a QPR with her best friend Lan.
Lan is nonbinary/genderqueer and on both the aro and ace spectrums. They are sex and romance indifferent, and in a QPR with their best friend Snow.
Sapphire is demisexual. She fell in love with her bodyguard Raven after they'd known each other for a few years and made a strong emotional connection when they talked about their childhoods one night and bonded over their mothers (Sapphire's bio mom died when she was young and Raven's mom is alive and well and he loves her very much). Raven is bisexual.
Nickelle is aroace, and sex and romance indifferent. She's the team leader in my superhero wip, has ice powers, and is very protective of her friends and family.
Kylee is PanAce. She's nonspeaking autistic, has superspeed and invisibility powers, and is sex favorable. Due to her autism sexual intendeduo does tend to go over her head (like me lol), but she is far from innocent and can have a dirty mind if she knows the joke. She also uses She/They pronouns <3.
Chase is Pansexual Aromantic, and romance 'i just don't think about it much or care'. They haven't thought about having a sexual relationship much before due to his mental disabilities that are considered "scary" and dangerous" and how that would be hard on a partner (He has OCD and a bipolar mood disorder). He also has chronic anxiety and depression which affects his veiw on his relationships platonic and otherwise with people. He also uses He/They pronouns <3.
Corie is aroace, and romance indifferent and sex repulsed. She's a cyborg bounty hunter in Galaxy Destroyer, and is the only 'sane person' on a ship full of allosexuals.
I did go much more in depth with my Aro OCs for Aro Visiblity Day on June 5th in this post
21. Free ramble card wee
I wanna talk about Snow Knight, the second book in my FSF series.
I was a huge bookworm growing up, and blew through all the books in the school library up until high school (I still love books, I'm just a very slow reader now). I loved fantasy, but something always bugged me about how I could never seem to find a fantasy book- especially a fairytale- without romance.
I did like romance if it was between two well written characters and it made sense- but a part of me was still very pissed off that romance was always a must have in fantasy and the genre couldn't seem to exist without it. Every character had to be paired off at the end, even if it made no sense or the relationship wasn't very healthy.
Then I realized I was aroace. I started to see all the amanormativity in the world- especially mainstream fiction- and I became even more pissed off. I wanted a fantasy story where not only was there no romance- but the female main character was also interesting and had a compelling arc, while also being badass and doing awesome stuff like wielding a big sword and wearing cool armor. (I didn't have much access to indie stuff yet).
Unlike the other fairytale retellings in my FSF series, Snow White wasn't very realized when i dreamt up the project, and just a vague vibe in my mind. I knew I wanted to include a retelling among the other five- but the whole romance part felt not only felt unnecessary, but very wrong to me.
Then I decided, you know what? Screw society's stupid rules about romance, Snow White doesn't need any romance in her story. No man, no woman, no romantic partner at all. She should be allowed to have a close platonic relationship with her best friend without it needing to be anything else. She should be allowed to do cool and badass things that I see allo female mcs do all the time. The story can be just as interesting and awesome without a speck of romance to be found for Snow's character.
And just like that, Snow, her arc, her best friend Lan, and the story of Snow Knight was born. It's honestly been very cathartic as an aroace writer so far to write this story, and I can't wait to share it with the world.
Thanks @sternenmeerkind !
#writeblr#creative writing#writing#writing community#original writing#queer writers#aro writer#ace writers#aroace writers#female writers#asexual#aromantic#writer#writers#writers of tumblr#pride#pride month#pride oc#queer pride#queer#queer ocs#ask game answers#answered ask#wip: fractured stars falling#snow white retelling#pride 2023#happy pride 🌈#happy pride bitches
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For a change of mood, can we get your queer/pronoun HCs for the Spiderverse cast so far? I love you platonically!
Aw thanks! I care for you as well! (also you help prove my point that people come to me asking for my opinions lol, so thank you for that!)
But uh, I don't really have any queer headcanons outside of what has already become known on this blog lol. For some reason I just can't put effort into making headcanons for these characters. I think it's because they are a lot more established than the NSR characters and have lots of lore behind them.
I'll try to give what I do have so far though! Maybe a new one will pop up while typing this.
-Peni using kit/kitself pronouns
-Hobie using it/they pronouns mainly
-Actually, I like aroace Hobie too! Put that one down for me as well!
-Miles being bisexual
-Gwen is straight and trans
-Ganke is probably gay. I have a few asks with him I still need to answer about that I think.
-I don't personally have this, but there's an ask for T4T Pav and Gaya which I think is super cute (and hope to draw for so sorry that hasn't been answered yet).
-Peter Porker being genderfluid, or like some kind of genderfluid (like librafluid or something like that on the agender spectrum).
-I don't know anything about Jessica's lore, but I like the idea her husband is a transman and they used IVF or a sperm donor for Jess to get pregnant (Jess sees herself as straight but she is in a queer relationship so kinda counts for this)
-There was an ask about Miguel being a lesbian that I kinda liked (another one I want to draw for). Though I think personally I won't be using this headcanon, it is a cool one to think about like the T4T Pav and Gaya one!
-Noir being agender. Or somewhere on that spectrum. I forget what an asker sent in for a specific label, maybe it was agender switched from NB (or the other way around), either way they/them Noir!
-Honestly T4T MJ and Peter B is one that I might lean into
-Lesbian Margo is one I am thinking of leaning into as well (mainly because someone sent an ask for Margo and Tila which I honestly think is so cute and again want to draw that).
-Also Peni and Yinu becoming a couple (another ask I got) is something I can see happening (Yinu in the NSpidR AU is about 13 going on 14 and Peni would be about 14 going on 15, somewhere in that range. Similar with Margo and Tila, Margo is like 17, maybe 18, for me while Tila is 18 maybe about to be 19 if Margo is 18. I don't have set ages honestly).
-Um... I don't know, I kinda like the idea that the Vulture is a gay old man that acts like those two muppets that make fun of everyone lol. Him and Elivy could talk mad trash about stuff hehe
-Olivia might be an aroace lesbian.
-I definitely think Jonathan has some queerness to him but don't know exactly what (now all I can think of are glory hole jokes lol!)
So yeah, I think that's all I got. Got a few new ones along with acknowledging some asks I got from a while ago I do plan on trying to answer at some point. Honestly most of these were from asks that I got from other people and I just absorbed their headcanons into my canon lol.
Especially that Peter Porker one! I initially was gonna have him be the cishet one of the group but then the whole looney tunes/bugs bunny genderfluid thing came up and I just had to incorporate that!
Anyway, thanks for the ask! My inbox has quite a few asks I plan to answer (and to not answer) so hopefully I can get the ball rolling on those! I just am also trying to draw a comic, get commissions done, redesign OCs and get a job. So a lot of stress, but I'm overall happy! (and now I'm just full on rambling lol. Have a good day/night! You deserve it!)
#spidertalk#eritalks#noart#asks#you know what#i'm just gonna post this#usually i'd queue it up#but here's some positivity from my askbox#lol#:3
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@insecuremice hi there! I think you deleted/blocked me from seeing that reblog, I think I should explain myself.
I'm not trying to be hateful at all(also ! didn't realize I put the billford tag on there sorry!) but from someone who's also on the aroace spectrum we really don't have a lot of aroace representation in media, and seeing people erase this can this fact can be really hurtful
I saw that you added that you're also aroace in the tags, so am !!! Maybe my blanket sentence was a little off putting, so let me start over. In the Book of Bill, in the mind-space pages, Bill quotes this
"Sixer dreams about a pop quiz that asks him, "What are you attracted to?" Usually writes "I'm attracted to logic and preparation." Not sure what to call that!Plansexual?"
If it isn't obvious, "Plansexual" is in place of aroace, which was either censored or Stanford just isn't aware of the term yet!
Being "attracted to logic and preparation", isn't literal. He doesn't feel attraction to anyone.
This is definitely NOT me saying that you can't have your ships! In fact I actually find BillFord pretty funny at times, but this is me saying that a lot of people, partially or completely erase that representation.
Let's get a tragic backstory up in here, when I was younger, I always thought something was wrong with me because I didn't like people the way everyone else did, so instead of trying to figure that out, I chose some random boy and stuck with "having a crush on him" for whenever people asked me. If l'd known about the aroace/demiromantic label back then, would've identified with it. But I didn't understand what I was until I saw representation of it
People around the world will continue to think that somethings wrong with them if we continue to erase representation like this, no matter how little it's mentioned.It's important. It's painful seeing people in a community usually so accepting, turn this away.
If you want to ignore this, fine. I can’t stop you, and I sure as hell won’t try! You’re entitled to your own opinion, BUT, insulting me from stating a fact from the Book of Bill, is frankly just kinda rude? But what do I know? Don’t take me to seriously after all I’m just a stranger on the inter webs and I will not remember this interaction in a week or so
(Edit: you didn’t block me from seeing it you’ve just reblogged a lot of stuff since then lol sorry!)
Hey guys, so reminder that Stanford Pines is canonically aroace! (Or Plansexual as Bill would call it.)
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Just finished the legend of korra book 1
#i have a lot of thoughts about this show so far but idk if i can get my points across well#i wasn't planning on comparing atla and tlok but i feel like i have to..#i don't remember how i felt after watching book one of atla but i think i felt more excited about it than tlok#i didn't click with korra yet. she was just there from the beginning..taken care of since she was little and living a quite sheltered life#i liked aang from the start. he was just 12 and alone and scared. he had the biggest heart and always cared about others#towards the end i started caring more about korra tho#ik i'm biased since im on the aroace spectrum but tlok love interests felt unnecessary :///#i LOVE mako and i love bolin..them both liking korra..i didn't love that. and mako and korra kissing when he was with asami?!#asami deserves better. i won't tolerate cheating no matter how much i like the characters#the plot was eh okay but i wanted to know more about amon. finding out everything at the end wasn't enough for me#that pro-bending or what's it called..that took too long. yes i am not fan of sports but this one was fun.#it just imo became too important. i felt like watching sth that was meant for 6 year olds#and the last ep when korra became an avatar just a few min after she lost her powers was rushed#but ik that the eps have only 20min so i kinda get it..#sth crossed my mind..seeing katara being the only one alive from the gaang made my heart brake :((( i miss them#im sure i have more things to rant about but i'll talk about the good things now#tenzin! i! love! him! he's so powerful and whenever i saw his fight scenes i was amazed. also he's so good and understanding to korra#they had their arguments but i felt like they compliment each other so well. i feel like they're growing as people together#lin beifong ❤️#general iroh has the same voice as zuko!!!! obvs the same actor lol but i loved that so much 🤧and he's so kind and brave#now korra and him..that would be a good ship.#i liked that korra had no problems whatsoever asking help from that homeless guy and his people.#she really doesn't care about status or power. she cares for people and their well-being and that's why i like her better now#i'll stop for now. i'll watch the entire tlok even though i've heard it's not as good as atla. i'm looking forward to book 3 tho#the legend of korra#the legend of korra book one
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OHSHC Sexuality and Gender Headcanons
Hey guys Ik this isn't a JSE post but ya boi is getting back into writing and this is what I came up with lol
Enjoy!
-Rowan
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Tamaki
Bisexual!
Preference for women!
Originally I thought he'd be cis but then I really thought about it
It honestly wouldn't shock me if he was genderfluid
Uses he/they pronouns but is totally okay with anything
(Kyoya was lowkey how he found out he's bi)
Kyoya
100% believe this guy is Pansexual
But he's also demiromantic
It's hard for him to fall in love, but that doesn't mean he can't
Just get to know him first
Like, REALLY get to know him
Also thought he was cis at first but
He's Demiboy!
I don't know he just gives those vibes
Uses he/they/xe pronouns and as much as he prefers people would use them, he's not gonna be mad about other pronouns being used
Kaoru
I am a firm believer that he is Gay
Just likes dudes, I don't know
He's cis tho
Uses he/they
Did have an identity crisis several times in his life though
Thought he was nonbinary for a while, but really sat down and thought of it, and just didn't like the label on him
Hikaru
He's either very straight or just hasn't admitted to himself that he's bi
He's familiar with LGBT because of Kaoru, but he himself hasn't thought too far into it.
He just knows he likes women lol
He's also cis!
He uses he/they pronouns!
Him and Kaoru figured out their pronouns together
They both just tested stuff out on each other to figure out what they like pronoun wise
Neither would mind being called other pronouns though
Mori
This guy was a little rough for me not gonna lie
I think he's questioning
He hasn't quite found a label he likes yet
He knows he's not straight, but doesn't know for sure what he is
Has kicked around the possibility of being omnisexual though
He's also somewhere on the ace spectrum!
I also believe he's nonbinary!
Prefers they/them pronouns but doesn't mind he/him or any others
Just gives those vibes
Honey
I'm gonna get hate for this but
I think he's aroace
I just do
I feel like he doesn't actually care to much for dating/doesn't really understand the point of it
Not because he acts young or anything, he just doesn't vibe with it
He finds people more aesthetically pleasing than romantically
He is cisgender though
Uses he/him pronouns but doesn't mind any others
He's super supportive of everyone (they all support each other but I feel like Honey just goes the extra here)
Haruhi
First of all, a whole queen
Now that we got that out of the way,
I think she's Bi!
Might be Pan though, she herself isn't fully sure
I also think she's a demigirl!
Uses all pronouns!
She's comfy with pretty much anything honestly
We love that for her 😌
That's all I got for now!! Hope these were good, I spent a while thinking about them! Honestly might draw my headcanons for them since I barely drew during pride this year
#ouran high school host club#ouran honey#ouran tamaki#ouran kyoya#tamaki headcanons#ohshc tamaki#tamaki suoh#ohshc kyoya#kyoya ootori#kaoru hitachiin#ohshc kaoru#hikaru and kaoru#hikaru hitachiin#ohshc hikaru#ohshc mori#takashi morinozuka#honey senpai#ohshc honey#damn I don't remember honeys full name#ohshc fanfiction#i think that's all the tags lmao#I ALMOST FORGOT HARUHI#ohshc haruhi#haruhi fujioka
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So I've recently discovered the aplatonic spectrum and wonder if I might be aplspec? I do feel close to the friends I have and will miss them, and as I'm aroace, I do put emphasis on my current friendships. I definitely feel some platonic attraction towards them, but I find it hard to connect to new people. I do want more friends and I find it easy to talk to strangers and be friendly, yet when I think about it, 1/2
I honestly can't tell if I ACTUALLY want more friends or if I just want social interaction. Also the fact that apparently platonic attraction is when you want a specific person to be your friend, not just friendship in general, which throws me off a bit lol. I don't often feel that way towards specific people. And, at the same time, I can't help but wonder if this is just a result of some undiagnosed mental illness I have, so that makes it more complicated. Any thoughts or advice? 2/2
(Kind of an addition to my previous 2 asks, but also it's own thing so feel free to post separately or not) One thing I do want to add is that I get really uncomfortable with people I barely know calling me their friend or people asking if they can be my friend. Usually I'm only comfortable calling someone a friend if I've spoken to and connected to them for a long time. Is that something often experienced by aplspecs?
Sorry this took me so long to answer!
I'm gonna break apart a few lines and give my thoughts!
As always, other aplatonics are welcome to chip in too!
I can't help but wonder if this is just a result of some undiagnosed mental illness
First I want to say that... having a mental illness, or being otherwise neurodiverse, doesn't disqualify you from being aplatonic. A lot of aplatonics are neurodivergent in some form and have it affect or even "cause" their aplatonicism. The original coiner of the term "aplatonic" was neurodivergent!
It's entirely up to you if you want to (1) share that you are neurodivergent, (2) take the aplatonic label or not, and (3) share that you are aplatonic. Labels are tools meant to help you and are not required in any way, and no one is entitled to know any aspect of your identity. This goes for every label and identity, and I just want to make this clear right off the top. /gen
I do feel close to the friends I have and will miss them (...) I definitely feel some platonic attraction towards them, but I find it hard to connect to new people.
Maybe look into the term Demiplatonic?
Demiplatonic is where you only feel platonic attraction for people once you've formed a bond / friendship with them, and don't feel that attraction before that bond. Just like demi-aro and demi-ace, there's no required time limit for the bond, just whatever and whenever you deem is a platonic bond.
Also the fact that apparently platonic attraction is when you want a specific person to be your friend, not just friendship in general, which throws me off a bit lol. I don't often feel that way towards specific people.
And greyplatonic is a bit more open in its definition but it describes rare platonic attraction. We don't really know yet what the "average" amount of platonic attraction is, so you kinda just have to go based on your own experiences and perceptions of how those around you view friendship.
I'm greyplatonic and I actually relate to a lot of greyromantic and greysexual experiences, just swapping out the romantic and sexual attraction they mention for platonic attraction instead. I'm also apl-spike and I relate to arospikes and acespikes, too.
So maybe that could help you as well? Looking at and comparing experiences to arospecs and acespecs? It probably would work for the other aplspec identities too, since they all use the same aspec prefixes.
(Btw, Greyplatonic can also be used as an umbrella term for any other apl identity on the grey areas of the spectrum.)
One thing I do want to add is that I get really uncomfortable with people I barely know calling me their friend or people asking if they can be my friend. Usually I'm only comfortable calling someone a friend if I've spoken to and connected to them for a long time. Is that something often experienced by aplspecs?
I'm not sure how common it is but I have heard other aplatonics say that before!
The aplatonic person who helped me realize I was aplatonic actually mentioned something like this! I can't find the original post right now, so I think it was a sort of untagged vent post... But from what I remember it was basically them saying that a coworker called them a friend despite never interacting or speaking with them outside of work, and the apl was pretty taken aback and uncomfortable by them labeling their relationship as a friendship. To the apl, they were just coworkers that talked at work, with nothing deeper to it nor any desire to be.
I know that platonic / plato repulsion is a thing, like romance repulsion and sex repulsion. It's not always a feeling of disgust, but sometimes a disconnect or aversion, so that term could probably be applicable to this situation, if you wanted a term for it. An alternate term would also be platonic / plato aversion.
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