#The Hamartia Arc
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kateis-cakeis · 11 months ago
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rewatching bbc merlin really has me like buzzing in my mind with so many thoughts. Like I'm kinda watching it backwards atm going from S5 to S4, I think I will jump around 3, 2, and 1 but just,,,, there is so much especially in S5 that makes me !!!!!!!
Honestly, I feel like this fandom has to give the writers more credit. Like they did a damn good job, and to me, it's such a good tragedy. Especially how S5 plays out, it takes everything and just tears you down, and down, and down. It's perfect, perfect with flaws! But still perfect
#bbc merlin#merlin#yeah idk on that note about the writers - this fandom is way too harsh#like i know we all have ideas on how it should have gone#but i think we lose how it's still a story that they planned from the start to end like that#they did their job they set up from the beginning and it is good as a tragedy imo as someone who has studied tragedies#hot take but the characterisations are consistent - i mean like as consistent as they get for a 5 series show#they did better than most and i dont feel like any characters get like their previous characterisation assassinated#that includes Arthur and Morgana btw they clearly have arcs that work well and where Arthur's is a slower progression - Morgana's is like a#lit match - slow at first but when it gets going it's going and then gone - it's wonderful#i mean look at s5 it literally starts by talking about Arthur's bane aka his fatal flaw aka his hamartia#which is himself and i dont think it's as much as the overdone hubris but rather Arthur's love and trust for others - but that like in many#tragedies can be debated#okay something else that can be debated is the peripeteia - i think a good example of it is the Disir episode because that's when Arthur's#fate becomes sealed anything after that point is fruitless because the Triple Goddess has decided he must die because of his rejection of#the Old Religion - it's a reversal of fortune in a sense that Mordred is alive to play his part in Arthur's death - as Merlin puts it. You#could see it more as Merlin's peripeteia rather than Arthur's but still#if we wanna debate it more Arthur's peripeteia would probablyyyy be when Mordred stabs him because that's when his death becomes imminent#it's a reversal of fortune because he's dying from that point forward rather than a strong king he is a man dying#the anagnorisis is another point to make. You could say for Arthur his anagnorisis is all of the finale - like this constant realisation of#Merlin and his magic and realising all that he missed all that he didnt see and now it's too late because he's dying#I'd say Merlin's anagnorisis comes with the whole Mordred and Kara ordeal and how he realises his mistake and how it's gonna cause the#downfall of not just himself but Arthur too#then catharsis - see i think it's the only part where the tragedy falters because do we get catharsis from Arthur's death and Merlin's#immortality - where he's still at the lake centuries later?#i think in some ways yes and in other ways no because I don't think BBC Merlin is following an Aristotle's tragedy#i think catharsis comes more from Morgana's half of the tragedy - seeing her die - and i think further catharsis comes from knowing it's no#over forever that there will be a second chance for redemption for both Merlin and Arthur#but it is a more difficult one for sure#anyway point is that S5 specifically has a tragedy storyline that is very well done and we should credit that more tbh
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bizlybebo · 23 days ago
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thinking abt dakota again are we
ONLY THING GETTING ME THRU THE WEEK
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lylahammar · 1 month ago
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man I know I shouldn't jump in on Wicked discourse but I keep seeing people calling Glinda the "villain" of Wicked and it's driving me nuts because I really don't think it's as simple as that
imo Glinda's story is a very Shakespearean style tragedy about a white feminist (liberal) politician. Her hamartia is her desire to be accepted by the oppressive ruling class, while her internal conflict is her struggle to be perceived as "good." She was influenced just enough by her marginalized activist friend to feel crushing awareness of her own place in the fascist system, but they were separated before she was able to fully reach self actualization and pursue a more fulfilling goal. Her tragic downfall is that she got exactly what she thought she wanted, but through her incomplete character arc she found that it was actually cold and hollow and lonely. Yeah she's a shitty selfish person and she dug her own grave but she's not the villain, she's the tragic anti-hero
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onlyhereforangst · 9 months ago
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CHARACTER ARC (n): the transformation of a character over the course of a story, sometimes enriched with hamartia to explore the complexities of human nature and endow a sense of authenticity as a character's flaw leads to their ultimate downfall.
being a police officer is my future. i love this job. i love it. i get to help people. i don't feel like a hero. at all.
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thorinsghivashel · 5 months ago
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Thorin Oakenshield can be considered a tragic character.
Analyzing Thorin Oakenshield as a tragic character through the lens of Greek tragedy provides a deeper understanding of his narrative arc and character development. Here’s a detailed analysis based on the principles of Greek tragedy:
Characteristics of Greek Tragedy
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Noble Stature:
Greek tragedies typically feature protagonists of noble birth or high status.
Thorin's Noble Stature: Thorin is the rightful heir to the throne of Erebor, which establishes his noble lineage and royal status.
Hamartia (Tragic Flaw):
A tragic hero possesses a flaw or makes a mistake that leads to their downfall.
Thorin's Hamartia: Thorin's tragic flaw is his overwhelming greed and obsession with reclaiming the treasure of Erebor, particularly the Arkenstone. This greed blinds him to reason and leads to irrational decisions and conflicts.
Hubris (Excessive Pride):
Many Greek tragic heroes exhibit hubris, an excessive pride that often leads to their downfall.
Thorin's Hubris: Thorin's pride in his lineage and destiny to reclaim Erebor contributes to his downfall. His refusal to share the treasure and his stubbornness in negotiations with other parties reflect this hubris.
Peripeteia (Reversal of Fortune):
The hero's fortunes change dramatically, usually from good to bad.
Thorin's Peripeteia: Thorin's initial success in reclaiming Erebor turns sour as his greed alienates allies, causes internal strife, and leads to the siege of the Lonely Mountain. His fall from a respected leader to a paranoid and isolated figure marks this reversal.
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Anagnorisis (Recognition):
The hero realizes their flaw or the true nature of their situation, often too late to avoid the consequences.
Thorin's Anagnorisis: Thorin experiences a moment of clarity on his deathbed, recognizing the destructive power of his greed and seeking reconciliation with Bilbo and others he wronged.
Catharsis:
The audience experiences a purging of emotions, particularly pity and fear, through the hero’s journey.
Catharsis in Thorin's Story: Thorin's tragic arc elicits pity for his internal struggle and ultimate downfall, and fear of the destructive nature of unchecked greed and pride. His redemption at the end provides a bittersweet closure.
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nemo-in-wonderland · 3 months ago
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bloody hell, with this all Shay/Dora thing that I have going on, I can finally introduce Thea properly.
She came so late into the game (as a concept, she existed since 2020 - Thea and Dora were always going to be twins- but as a character, I basically developed late 2022, early 2023?) that I NEVER thought about the possibility of making her Dottie's literal wingman and bff (again, in Syndicate Dorothea was an only child).
SWEET, SWEET DELICIOUS POSSIBILITIES THAT HAVE JUST OPENED UP IN FRONT OF MY EYES.
AM DELIGHTED.
(am basically moving all the Starrick family back into 1700s for the Rogue arc lololol).
SO HERE YOU HAVE THEDA BEING A LITTLE SHIT WITH DORA.
I will blabber more about them on my sideblog (which is @house-of-hamartia. But be mindful that it's a Rogue-centric blog, where I also post smut so, if you are minor, nope, stay the freak away from there lol)
hope you will like this!
--Nemo
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alexanderwales · 15 days ago
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how much interest, if any, do you have in writing tragedies?
i've been getting caught up on Thresholder lately after taking a long break, so this question is prompted by reaching the book three epilogue. a pattern i've noticed is a certain optimism to how Thresholder's ends books. they're hopeful, if tempered by reality and nuance. thinking about it gave me this amusing mental image just picturing this... improbable streak of Things Getting Better across the multiverse
honestly, that sense of positivity is part of why i'm having as much fun as i am getting caught up on this story; i like that it doesn't bum me out or hurt me
still, Worth the Candle ended quite well, and Dark Wizard of Donkerk too, though i guess Metropolitan Man is admittedly a bit of an exception. i'm a fake fan, so i can't speak to much beyond that
most stories end well, so this isn't unusual, but i'm still curious: have you written any tragedies in your published & unpublished corpus? will you? i know there's some creators who think long form stories owe it to the audience and their investment not to shit on that with complete tragedy. do you put any stock in that?
I think first there's an important distinction between camps of tragedies that I want to draw first.
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First, there's a tragedy that comes from within, where the protagonist sows the seeds of their own destruction. The Greeks called this hamartia, the character flaw or the mistake, the thing that the suffering springs from. There are a couple other "classic" elements of this, the fall from grace, the recognition of this foible or folly, etc. This is my jam. I wish that modern culture had more of it. The last two big examples I can think of are Walter White and Ned Stark, and I think neither of them really fit. Part of that is just that longform tragedy is harder to do, and less focused with a larger cast of characters. Still, I think there's a lot to love about the classic structure: the fatal flaw, the fall, the recognition, the catastrophe. (I'm trying to fit some other characters in this mold, especially from recent movies, and I guess Tár is another example of a tragic character from a movie I really enjoyed. Wolf of Wall Street might be another, but I agree with the common line of criticism here, which is that it was a lot more interested in reveling in the opulence and chaos than in the downfall. Very possible there are some obvious ones that I'm forgetting here. Oh, also The Substance, which I saw recently and didn't care for, but a more classic tragedy wouldn't have the inciting incident.)
I have never consciously attempted a classic tragedy, but I might some day, probably for a shorter, more focused piece. I think "start high, move low" make a lot more sense for it, and one of the things that a lot of modern takes on the classic tragedy do is "start low, move high, move low", which gives a lot less time for the tragic arc to appear in full, and robs the piece of some of its clarity.
The second camp of what people mean when they say "tragedy" is just "a story with a bad ending". I tend to not like these very much. I think it's culturally important for there to be a few examples of them floating around in the canon, and as a metaphor for climate change (or climate change feelings) I think it's ... eh, fine. I recently watched The Dead Don't Die and it's clear they were going for something like that, and I hated the movie but respected certain elements of its narrative decisions. I think it generally makes for a dreadful story, and is interesting only in a postmodern sense, and to keep people on their toes, and to combat anti-narrative thinking. A story that ends with everyone dying from circumstances that were outside their control is definitely not for me, because it just feels really pointless. Sometimes pointlessness is the point ... but I can't take too much of that.
I would be extremely hesitant to write a story with a bad ending where shit just doesn't end up working out for our protagonist, like he was just not strong enough, not fast enough, not skilled enough, not lucky enough, etc. It is true that in life sometimes you run up against those things, it's just not what I tend to be into fiction for. I don't tend to like deliberately sour endings.
Maybe this is just because I've seen them done badly and with no sterling purpose to them. "Forget it, Jake, it's Chinatown" is iconic for a reason, it's the punchline for all the setup, it's what the entire movie has been about. Same for "He loved Big Brother.", it's just ... so good? Such an encapsulation of everything that's come before? So I think it's fine to do that if that's what you've been driving at with a clear purpose, or a purpose that becomes clear only at the end. Difficult line to walk though.
Personally, I like my endings nuanced and optimistic and with costs and change and stuff. Let's say 70% sweet, 20% bitter, 10% sour. I'd also like to piss off some subset of people because there are many different valid readings and different viewpoints can have different ideas about them.
No proper tragedies of either kind in my published body of work, at least that I can immediately think of. Actually, on reflection, maybe Contratto, a vampire novella I wrote a while back fits, though I think intelligent people could disagree on how "down" that ending is. I have a 95% finished novel that has an ambiguously bad ending, but it'll never see the light of day (mostly due to being early, unpolished work that I currently think is unsalvageable). Among upcoming stuff, where "upcoming" is very ambiguous ... one or two with more "downbeat" endings, I would say. But again, I think "total catastrophe and ruin" is both not to my tastes, and hard to pull off in a way that makes it work.
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greenerteacups · 9 months ago
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If there was one major plot element that you could change in the original canon what would it be?
The Marauders' deaths. With the exception of James, I don't think any of the Marauders die in a way that's narratively suitable — or, to be more particular, they die in a way suitable for a narrative I don't like very much. James is an acceptable (though, obviously, tragic) death to me because it completes his arc: he's an obnoxious, arrogant bully who grows into a selfless soldier on the side of the light, and lays down his life as a final gesture of abnegation. It's not Proust, but it's good, right? His death represents a symbolic triumph over Voldemort because it's something Voldemort would never do.
None of the others make the same kind of sense for their subplots. Sirius dies at the Ministry because Harry fucks up and lets his abandonment issues override his judgment, and while that's a compelling moment for Harry — whose hamartia is a trauma-forged combination of hot-headedness and desperate fear of losing people — it's not for Sirius. Sirius's problem in Book 5 is that he's emotionally stunted by his years of imprisonment and refuses to grow up, because he's clinging to the life he thinks — rightly — he should have gotten to have. This is made painfully clear in the Department of Mysteries, wherein some of his last words to Harry are "Nice one, James!" He refuses to treat Harry like the child he is, and he keeps acting like he's this fun-uncle type, blowing off rules and pissing off Mom (Molly), because that's the dynamic he should have had with Harry if Lily and James had lived. Sirius doesn't want to be Harry's guardian and role model. He wants a brother and a nephew, and he's trying to force Harry to be both, because he's all he has left of that family. His death doesn't tie any of those threads; they're left dangling. That's a valid narrative move — every death cuts a story short, and you can't give everybody an arc — but I loved Sirius. Giving Harry the "grieving loss of a parent" arc that was originally meant for Ron (Arthur was the original Big Death of the OOTP, in JKR's drafts) also means that Ron spends a lot of Book 6 without anything to do, whereas Harry goes through what's essentially a more intense version of the grieving-and-recovery arc he did after Cedric's death.
Remus, on the other hand, is just — first off, a Mess, I agree with so few of the choices made with Remus in the later books, but let's say he's deep in the trauma, the grieving, and whatever living among werewolves as a spy does for your mental health. So he gets into this will-they-won't-they with Tonks, gets married, tries to abandon pregnant wife, then goes back and gets to be with his wife and son for about half a year before dying, with said wife, in battle. Okay. So like:
I think the Remus Weirdness in Book 7 is actually an attempt to close a plot hole, which is that the Horcrux Hunt happens completely without adult supervision, despite the fact that there are lots of adults the Golden Trio could and should ask for help. Harry's insistence that he doesn't want to risk anyone's life except for Ron and Hermione's is, while understandable as a character move, utterly ridiculous, because the other Order members are risking their lives anyway. One of the biggest holes is Remus and Tonks, who are (a) both already targets for Voldemort because of who they are, and so have nothing to lose, but also (b) both care for Harry on a personal level, and would never accept his reasons for pushing them away. So Teddy Lupin is conceived in order to bench Tonks, who's safely out of commission while pregnant. But that leaves Remus, who probably in fact would have super complicated torn-loyalty feelings about the situation, and who is scarred and traumatized and probably has enough abandonment issues to try and walk out, but — in my view — never resolves any of those things. He doesn't suddenly realize that he loves Tonks and wants to be with her, or feel a sense of duty to his son; when Harry's justly furious at Remus abandoning his kid in Harry's name, Remus gets pissy about it and goes "well, if you don't want my help, fine," and leaves. Which is, again, fine, a character flaw, it's childish, he's allowed to be, and he is, in fact, similar to Sirius and James — but it left a bad taste in my mouth, because that's one of the last conversations we get with Remus, and it's such an impoverished vision of his bonds with others. It doesn't delve deeply into why he loves Tonks or Harry, or the substance of his conflict between them; like always with the Marauders, he just invokes James, and Harry throws James's name right back at him, and it ends there.
And then he dies, so that baby Teddy Lupin can be an orphan, and we can do a parallel to baby Harry Potter. Even though we don't see Teddy Lupin on the page ever, so we have no idea what that comparison means, or how their experiences compliment or contrast one another, or literally anything more substantive than the series beginning and ending on the same event. Which: great. Okay. To quote a Roger Ebert review that I think about, on average, once every thirty-six hours:
"J.K. Rowling has learned from better novels that authors sometimes create narrative parallels, but she has not learned why."
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st-just · 1 year ago
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So I saw your hot take, and I'm just curious, what do you think character development should mean? If a character stays a shitty, pathetic, borderline abusive asshole no one is going to like them, because who would like them IRL? They suck. Thats why they have to be better (although I gotta admit, sometimes they deserve to just die rather than go through redemption arc i.e abusers)
re: (or I mean, I'm assuming)
I'm going to be honest, going off this ask I think we might just want and expect fundamentally different things from fiction.
But to try and answer your question, 'character development' imo just means the character changing in personality or priorities over the course of their arc - it's an entirely amoral term. The tragic hero being consumed by their hamartia until they destroy everything they care about falls under the heading as much as some degenerate sinner having a Damascene conversion (or secular equivalent thereof).
(I ran out of fire emojis to respond to, but: my related hot take is that works/fandom treating being a good friend or devoted romantic partner or being willing to sacrifice and suffer for the sake of your child as being automatic proof that you're fundamentally a good person is both aesthetically boring and morally repugnant)
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psychotomy · 1 month ago
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Thinking abt the daze mv again and the song lyrics in general. I’m just rambling here
I feel like if you imagine the harlequin to be the visualization of “Hamartia” and his land of luxury portrayed in the video as the sorta “masquerade for people at the peak of life”, and the girl that drives away as a “tragic heroine” it all sort of comes together.
Since Hamartia means “the trait that leads a traditional hero from their glory to their downfall” (…or sth close to that!) it makes sense for it to appear as a coy fancy harlequin being a secret host for a party. People being close to Hamartia means being close to (or one’s already reached) the state of glory in their character arc, and Hamartia’s there to play a passionate yet cruel joke on the unaware hero.
If one’s there they’ve got three options:
1 stay at the party.
2 driving away.
3 being lured by the harlequin
Option 1 leaves you dazed and stuck forever in this illusion-like trance, losing oneself in the glory so to speak. Option 2&3 both means that you’ve embraced the element that takes you away from the peak, with 2 meaning a voluntary acceptance to absolution and a firm turn-away from the illusion (a tragic end but a lesson learned), and 3 meaning you were lured to take that fatal fall (tragic end, but it ends with passion)
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That’s the MV part. The lyrics make it seem like the harlequin itself speaking out, trying to get the listener into option 3..
“And you can give me everything I need this way” only when the hero unknowingly takes the fall due to their flaw, can Hamartia be brought into existence.
“We’ll be loving till the first light of the day” then Hamartia becomes one with the hero, and only for the short moment of their fall can they bond intimately
“Set the world on fire… let the whole world burn” sounds like a bittersweet final call to the world; a carefree feeling resulting from acceptance of their own destruction, they’ll be laughing till the end as they disappear in a flurry of gold and flames.
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The concept of harmatia was first introduced to me while I was learning myths in a writing course years ago. I forgot this word but was lucky enough to come across it in potf’s lyrics and GOD am I so happy. And linking this concept to myths and gods makes it perfectly reasonable for Daze to be the kickstarter song of the “Jealous Gods” album, boy it’s one hell of an awesome metaphor / message, harmatia exists 🎵 for the fates are devious by heart 🎵
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Also the song’s a complete banger even without all this interpretation. It carries a complete meaning and has great “fated romance” vibes.
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jjanewillow · 5 months ago
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the question
my latest affliction
a question found in Hamlet
trying to decide which
the obvious answer is to remain
to experience the fullness of life
appreciating what I've got in the present
no guilt for the past
no anxiety for the future
whatever comes with the decision
to be
cerebration has become an unruly creature
hamartia, my arc may be over
seeking something tangible to prevent me
from inflicting this upon myself
looking for a God, I will settle for an angel
tell me, do not be afraid
keep me from determining
things may be better if I were no longer
stop me from choosing
not to be
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vinnie2757 · 9 months ago
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Vincent has reached a turning point; stay, or leave. He knows which he needs Lucrecia to do, but convincing her is the hardest part. [Vincrecia au; she leaves the Jenova Project while pregnant, leapfrogging off of hamartia's pregnancy arc]
‘We need to leave,’ he tells her again, cups her face in both hands.
‘I can’t go,’ she says, her eyes hazy and unfocused. ‘I have work to do.’
‘It’s going to kill you.'
Her skin is clammy, her cheeks cold.
‘No,’ she assures him, with a lazy smile that is too soft, too vacant, for her usual knife’s edge. ‘It’ll be fine. Pregnancies are hard, Vincent. I’ve done the reading.’
He scoffs, and lets her go only long enough to wet a cloth to clean her face of sweat and blood. Gast cannot come quickly enough, he finds himself thinking, waiting on her to brush her teeth and get herself dressed. She is finding it difficult to do her trousers up; he will have to take her further afield to purchase new ones. Perhaps that is how he gets her out. He spirits her away under the guise of maternity clothes. Once they are gone, they can just not go back. She can’t drive, so she wouldn’t be able to stop him.
No, that is an unfair thing to do.
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bbnibini · 4 months ago
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To commemorate the success of the exchange program and your official enrolment as a regular student in RAD for the upcoming school year, Diavolo invites the House of Lamentation and Purgatory Hall to a slumber party! What better way to celebrate than playing video games? Unfortunately, one such game among them called “Olympus Moon” is more than just a game: it is said to be cursed by an evil spirit! By a terrible stroke of luck, you and everyone else had somehow been transported inside the game, at the mercy of the rumoured curse out to kill you all!  Will you and your friends be able to get out of the game? Or will he get to you first? (part 5 of the Hamartia series) ~bannerart by alvimint
Pairing(s): "Aphrodite" x MC, "Aphrodite" x Reader
T/w: Graphic depictions of violence and gore, major and minor character deaths
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stringcage · 2 years ago
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a while back i made this post about adam parrish and max caulfield being really similar characters and lately i've been thinking about that a lot and i think it really has to do with the duality of their relationships with supernatural power and autonomy.
both of their character arcs are very reliant on receiving supernatural abilities at the beginning of their series and the aftermath this has on their self esteems. both of them gain confidence as time goes on and they master their abilities, with adam becoming the magician and max using her rewind to help bring people to justice. the confidence that comes with this power helps both of them to overcome their hamartia (adam, learning to ease the chip on his shoulder and accept help from others when the situation calls for it; max, becoming comfortable with interacting with the world around her and take some control over her own life as well).
but even though we can see that what their power is doing to them is a net good for their own personal growth, it offsets the balance of the world around them. the universe seems not to believe that they should wield this power. we see adam get possessed by the demon through his bond with cabeswater, and the reckoning of max's tampering with time causing the storm that can only end in death. i think it says something really interesting about sacrifice, which is also a huge part of both of their characters down to literal word choice in the narrative.
and of course this is resolved in a way befitting of the cyclical nature of time that is prevalent in trc and lis: even though their powers are what got them to this pivotal point against the universe in the first place, the way that their relationship with magic helped them grow as a person allows them to be capable of getting themselves out of this situation (adam letting his friends help him when he gets possessed and max being able to make a choice, one way or the other, to save someone, no matter who it may be, instead of shying away from any sort of autonomy). the universe grants them a hubris of sorts, punishes them for possessing it, but that hubris allows each of them to save themselves in spite of it all
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nonbinaryphantom · 2 years ago
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roleswap danny’s arc hits very similar to a tragedy where he’s the tragic hero but due to his own hamartia he’s leading his own downfall he even has a revelation on his own self and his relationships which leads to him getting Worse. but unlike a lot of tragedies he’s. not a high status person or a great hero he’s just a kid who just got lucky/unlucky to become half-ghost and everything that comes with growing up snowballs
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jumpscaregoose · 2 years ago
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lyserg diethel in hell is neat basically
lyserg's always had my favourite arc out of the main five guys and I wanna talk about it but mostly the culmination of that arc when he goes to hell. because it is neat and I get to sound ridiculous
lyserg is different from the other main characters in that instead of following a more linear character progression he hits absolute rock bottom and winds up only a few steps ahead of his introduction by the end of the manga. this fucking slaps and I love it.
the crux of his character is similar to the concept of aristotelian hamartia, or a downfall based on a morally neutral fatal flaw (the most pretentious series of words I've ever written). lyserg's parents are killed by hao, he wants revenge, he winds up in the echo chamber of the x laws for a while and spirals. the way lyserg differentiates from a class tragedy is in that he doesn't crash and burn but instead quietly returns to around where he started (but not exactly. like 4 steps ahead).
unlike the other main guys, lyserg doesn't get a big bombastic culmination of his arc (well he does, but considering the rest of them all went to hell at the same time I don't think it counts). his is a lot more understated. and I like that because I'm a loser who likes going over this manga with a fine toothed comb.
for a bit of context as to where lyserg is as a character before this scene we're busting out these scans I have again
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^ this scene is about as fucked up as he gets. for most of the second half of the manga the angst is more subdued ^
at his lowest point, lyserg's #1 priority was his revenge on hao. he was willing to do a significant amount of murder and other fucked up shit for this goal. the niles match is this mentality crystallized.
when he's not being put in situations where he can kill people to further his revenge, lyserg is more... quietly depressed. just sitting in the corner all 😔. he is There
and then we get the mastema hell scene (what do you even call it). the character's individual hells are clearly meant to demonstrate traumas/important stuff in relation to the character (the tao mansion, a flooded forest, mount osorezan, and a dante's inferno reference I think?). lyserg's is in london. the area around big ben specifcally. the last moments of happiness he had before his parents' deaths
and actually the big ben thing was a lie. he spawns in next to this building
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I'm assuming it's meant to be a church but given how busted it is it could be something else. church is my first guess based on the christian imagery of the x laws as a group. if we take this building as a church meant to represent the x laws, it's also of note that it's broken, like the current state of the group with almost all its members dead
out of all five hells, we only see two significant demons. the first is oh-oni in yoh's, clearly calling back to the osorezan arc. the second is mastema in lyserg's. the demon being named mastema is significant because, at least according to my googling, the name mastema means hatred in hebrew. it's also explicitly stated as a symbol of hatred in the text
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my absolute favourite part of this scene is this part though
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(my absolute favourite part got bodied by my phone scan rip)
ALSO if this RANDOM BRITTANIA FACTOID is true MISSED OPPORTUNITY FROM TAKEI
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six wings for fire and you give the fire guy four. ok. kind of hope this isn't true so we didn't lose anything in the divorce
back to the actual scene, I think the angel form is meant to represent the justice of the x laws as a crutch for actual personal growth. it isn't possible for lyserg to defeat his hatred with the holier-than-thou ideology he's been living with, so he nearly gets crushed
the rest of the scene is significantly less interesting but the cliffsnotes version is that Cool Character Development is implied but happens mostly offscreen in a Takei Moment. read it for yourself if you want the details there because I don't wanna write about them
this next pages makes me feral though
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mastema dolkeem. flames of hatred. love it so much. roses are red violets are blue mastema dolkeem has nothing to do with you. yeeessss my boy work on overcoming your need for revenge and grow as a person yesssss
obnoxiously long lyserg rant over thanks for coming
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