#tdp salt

[spop-romanticizes-abuse]

that moment when your complex antagonist is starting to make too much sense so you twist the narrative or make them do something truly vile out of nowhere, so that the audience doesn't begin questioning your morals.

[madou-dilou]

I am sorry but why did Lissa refuse to give her tears to save Soren. What mother does that

I get the whole "dark magic leads you to see animals and people as mere resources, to break them down into components to exploit and denying by this the inherent value of all lives" but it's just tears. It's not like he had to beat her to the tears, she was already crying all the time because their child was dying. I genuinely don't get why Viren is the villain here. He only had to pull her hair to get her tears into the vial, she already was crying.

[bibibbon]

Basically, Megatron in Earthspark is a diet coke version post redemption Endeavor. And as a cherry on top, the humans still angry at the destruction that the bot's are still causing from their battles, the high casualty numbers of human lives lost from the bots' war, and the harassment from the Decepticons are painted as prejudice for wanting these highly advanced, giant robots of mass destruction to go home! Also, the show treats Optimus Prime the way the fandom treats All Might. 3/5

Part 1 part 2

Wow ok I thought it couldn't get worse but it just did. So the show goes out of its way to try and say that the humans being rightfully angry about what decepticons did is painted as the victims being in the wrong and wrongfully discriminating against the decepticons. Yeah yikes however this does sound vaguely similar to the dragon prince and the lack of proper criticism towards the elves and dragons actions and how the humans are demonised a whole lot more.

It feels like a cheap and unequal bit of both sides are wrong but you can kinda tell that one side is worse than the other and the narrative never tries to address that (properly that is)

I don't really know who Optimus prime is but from the description of him being treated as fanon all might than Iam assuming that he gets over hated by the fandom for reasons that aren't really his fault. I mean this because while the fandom can hate on all might and bash him too harshly I still do think that all might is an incredibly flawed character and it still bugs me that the manga wouldn't actually delve into that or any other interesting part of his character instead we get the whole iron might ordeal.

[hikaaa-bi]

probably a hot take but i don't really like ezran. i don't dislike him, he just feels like such a 2d character. maybe it's his voice acting (i'm sorry but it's so.. soulless?) or maybe it's the fact that his personality has no depth. like i get it, he's a child but i've seen a lot more interesting characters who were around the same age as him.

[cometchasr]

when you realise elarion probably had so many natural disasters. like, who chose this place.

anyways it does help the plot with how humans understand suffering so deeply... even in the midst of their golden age, they always had earthquakes, floods... they always suffered, but they always had hope.

they always rebuilt, and moved on.

now, if only the writers hadn't thrown away the nuance of dark magic and the reparation that xadia would need to give (the humans too, but mostly xadia). there could have been so much plot with ezran's rule being challenged in the 2 years and how it affected the west. ezran's rule being challenged when he's away. general salt amongst the humans over how ezran just tries to smooth everything over and doesn't care about ruling, but (more importantly), doesn't pressure xadia to meet up in the center. no, he just lets them stay where they are and make no change. i would assume the whole lux aurea situation would cause outrage, actually, and that in the west there would be riots. maybe opelli would be forced to take a more hostile stance to xadia and a rising of tensions would occur (not war; they've had enough of that shit. just heightened hostilities).

but that's not going to happen because the writers threw away all the nuance, ezran is a good ruler and xadia doesnt need to change to be forgiven, apparently.

[newtwithinternet]

Do you think that Opeli was trying to get rid of Ezran because he was a bad king?

i think it's a nice idea to think about and a good start point to play with Opeli's character, but i personally don't headcanon it as her motif. From my perspective she just have her mind so much in the box of her rules and laws that she won't be able to even think about *gasp* getting rid of The Lawful King. Have him away for his own safety in case of riots or other troubles because of, you know, dragons in Katolis, seems more in character for her.

More than that, she doesn't seem to reject Ez's "being nice towards Xadia" basis, it's more like she's concerned about how he handles it without thinking it through. And since i'm pretty sure she already handles most part of ruling the kingdom, this "how" problem is totally in her area of power to solve, so she have no reason to want to get rid of Ez. He seemed apathetic towards most things that aren't his basis earlier, so he'll probably just agree with what she suggests.

[void-tiger]

I know it’s a month since you left the post but as far as returning to TDP, I wouldn’t bother. The writing has arguably gotten worse, whole lot of retcons, still a lot of tonal dissonance and some really troubling messaging that is probably both unintentional and will remain unaddressed. It’s up to you but the show definitely hasn’t gotten better.

Yeahhh that’s essentially why I left after s3, I think? The one that vaporized the fire elf’s sister for shits&giggles—when I say that TDP disturbed me more than actual MA-rated animation? That’s what I’m referring to.

And watsonian vs doyalist…

I was warned watching that season about the shitshow going on behind the curtains. I watched it, anyway, for the sake of the crew who worked on it. And…sure. Visually it was beautiful, the voice actors are giving good performances, but the writing? Yeah. Holy Watsonian clusterfuck inconsistencies, batman! Aaaaand…doyalist issues definitely broke containment.

Anyway. Sounds like I got out of the fandom just in time. As adorable and heart-good Amaya’s and Janai’s relationship is (and holy crap! They’re animating sign!!) it just. It doesn’t make up for the rest of what’s going on, and the storytelling is just getting progressively convoluted and unenjoyable “messaging issues aside” for me. So…yeah. Guess I’ll cut my losses.

And work on writing my own queer, poc, and disability inclusive story when I’m feeling better sometime in a sparkling future where my own health is better managed. Can’t promise I won’t kill anyone off, buuut I’m too weary for tragedy, and especially deaths and misery that are disproportionately women (and in TDP’s case? Queer and/or WoC.)

[itsskoll]

i fucking hate they made Amaya/Janai canon. Where the fuck was the chemistry and build up? out of fucking no where

She should be with Gren. He’s a lot cuter and funnier

[raylasgf]

“i hate rayla in arc 2 she’s not as badass as she was before, they turned her soft”

rayla in arc 1:

she’s always been unserious some of you are just dumb

[lifblogs]

Some people for some reason: Rayla so wasn't Callum's one deep truth. I know because the creators said so during a period where they were trying to save us from getting spoilers. The art:

[rayllurn]

Me screaming at tdp YouTube like, “Rayllum never broke up!! They never broke up! They never broke up!!” *is getting dragged away* “Listen me! They never broke up! They never bro-“

Seriously every time I hear someone say they broke up I lose brain cells. She left because she loved him so much she thought it was the only way to keep him safe.

Even Callum acknowledges this!!

Lujanne: “So this is a thing again? You two?”

Callum: “It always was.”

It always was!!! They never STOPPED being a thing, from their perspectives.

And I get that there’s a lot of feelings about Through the Moon and that it should have been incorporated into the actual show (and I agree with that to some degree) but like…where would have they put it? It doesn’t fit in season 3…it would be an anticlimactic tag on to the big finale. It would be weird to start season 4 with it and then have a two year time skip between episodes 1 and 2. It just doesn’t fit in the canon storyline. The only thing I can think of is that they maybe could’ve imported more pieces of it as flashbacks (I would have preferred this I think, but this is the story the creators gave us and I love it regardless!!!).

[spop-romanticizes-abuse]

if you want a mutually toxic and messed up relationship that isn't romanticized by the narrative:

if you want a relationship where both people make mistakes, but they actually work through their issues together:

if you want an actually good enemies to lovers sapphic ship (with actual fighting and almost killing each other and everything):

you don't have to settle for cat/radora :)

[madou-dilou]

If Dark magic is set up to be morally wrong no matter what, we ought to be shown that anything is better than using it.

That Viren *should* have let Soren and the hundreds of thousands of people die starving, that Callum *should* have let Pyrrha and Rayla and Soren and himself and Ezran and Zym be tortured.

The characters must choose to not use it knowing what horrible consequences this choice will bring, and these horrible consequences have to actually happen and have dreadful long term repercussions, and NOT to be Deus-ex-machinaed away.

So no new Arcanum somehow unlocked or dragon somehow showing up just in the right time or anything like it. Just the plain consequences, however horrible.

The closest we got was Harrow's death way back in season one, and even it's consequences were Deus-ex-machinaed via the egg and the frankly insane gamble that Zubeia would agree to stop the war to thank the protagonists.

So far, every time someone used it, it was framed as wrong and unjustifiable no matter the circumstances.

So, okay.

Show us why not using it to save your kid, your friends, your people, and let all of them die, is actually the right thing to do, the right, moral, "no shortcut" path.

[aleyuhhhh]

seeing everyone shit on season 4 of tdp meanwhile it was the entire reason i got back into the show you guys are tripping 😭😭

[gjsxj0]

mindless rambling in tags don't mind me

[raayllum]

anyway claudia loves and adores her trans boyfriend and we love that for both of them