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rrcraft-and-lore · 7 months ago

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The Celtic Goddess Danu - the Mother Goddess, the goddess of and manifest divine waters. The waters that fell from heaven to create the sacred river, Danuvis or the Danube.

The Tuatha De Danaan are translated as "The Children of Danu."

There are similarities here between this Ganga and the forming of the Ganges. But more notably, Danu from Hindiusm - the primordial mother goddess of ancient/first old waters - liquid. There is also a river named Danu in Nepal.

She is the mother of the Danavas, a larger category of the Asuras - celestial/supernatural beings of god like powers, but calling them gods exactly is incorrect. Asuras and Devas are larger in some ways than that - celestial/cosmic beings of princely domains/abilities is slightly more accurate, but for all intents an purposes. There are more similarities between Celtic and Vedic/Hindu culture/myths.

Why?

Well, recent research has shown Celtic genetics shows paternal and maternal ancestry from ancient India (R-M269 deriving via R1b, and H & U haplogroups) - is it really that weird then we see echoes of the ancient Indian epics echoed throughout other parts of the world, especially with the history of Eurasian/South Asian trade, migration, and more?

There is a story well known in the South Asian stories, but let's talk about the similar Celtic one. A tale of how a hero has to build a causeway across the waters to reach his foe, and how his wife must outsmart her captor/villain.

Some Indians are already nodding their heads. We begin with the Celtic hero: Fionn mac Cumhaill, a hero who is born just after his father dies.

Does this sound somewhat familiar?

Well, here we have Rama, born to Dasaratha, who is cursed to die soon as his son leaves him. His father dies as soon as Rama is exiled from Ayodhya.

Finn goes on to study with poets, warriors, and hunters in the forest of Sliabdh Bladma.

Rama goes to the forest hermitage where he learns similar arts under Vasitha.

Finn later in his youth goes on to destroy the fire breathing demon Áillen of the Tuatha (Children of Danu analogous of Aditi here btw) who destroys the capital of Tara every year on Samhain (a celebration very similar to the Indian Pitru Paksha btw)

Rama as a teen kills the Asuras attacking the hermitage - the enemies of the Devas (children of Aditi), interestingly enough just like I've talked about in the Norse (how you have two bodies of celestial/god beings - Aesir and Vanir), the Greeks have it, there is also a flipping that happens in a lot of these ancient cultures.

Aesir and Asura come from the proto indo European asr - but in one group one is good, the other bad. However in the Iranian - Zoroastrian, there is a reverse. The Ahura (Asura) are GOOD and the Devas are bad (down to including Indra from South Asian mythology), and in the Celtic we see something similar - a flipping of roles.

Rama, Sita, and her protector Lakshmana were all in exile together in the forest. The demon king Ravana sends a golden deer to tempt/seduce and lure away Sita from Rama but it is really the demon Maricha in disguise. Sita is tricked and ends up sending her protector to Rama, leaving herself vulnerable, and thus abducted by Ravana who wishes to marry her and this leads to a war in where Rama eventually gets her back also, kidnapping of a women sparking a war? OH HI, HELEN OF TROY. HI.

Fionn meets his wife Sabadh while hunting, and guess what? She is turned into a deer by a druid she refuses to marry. She returns to her true form once in Fionn's home and they marry...only she's turned into a deer again by the druid Fear Doirich when Fionn was off at war, and Fionn must spend years searching for her. Wow. Coinky dinky dinky.

Now to the original part of my talk here, the causeway in Ireland was built by Fionn to travel to battle a giant. Rama Setu, his causeway, was built by Rama's army so he could enter Lanka to do battle there - (Sri Lanka).

The Celts also have four major cycles of time just like the Vedic Indians did. The tricky thing here is that linguistically, PIE (proto Indo European) has been shown to be behind a lot of story/cultural influences as it spread through Europe/Asia, but...the thing that's hard to account for here is how geo-located Ramayama is in/to India, so why do specific echoes of it show up in Celtic mythology so much so?

Yay comparative mythology and echoed storytelling/beats tropes across the world.

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falseandrealultravival · 2 months ago

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Dialogue with Gemini (16) The Seine and The Ganges

Bathing in the Ganges

My Question:

The Seine was the venue for the triathlon at the Paris Olympics, and after the event, some people vomited or fell ill and were hospitalized. Someone also asked an Indian woman if she would swim in the Ganges, but she said, "I won't swim in such a dirty river." The Ganges is a river where animal carcasses and excrement flow. Which river is more polluted, the Seine or the Ganges?

パリオリンピックでトライアスロンの会場となったセーヌ川、競技後、嘔吐したり、体調を崩したりして入院する人が出現した。またインド人の女性に、ガンジス川に入るか、と質問した人がいたが彼女は「あんな汚い川には入らない」と言っていた。動物の死体とか排泄物とかが流れるガンジス川。セーヌ川とガンジス川、どっちがより汚染されていると言えるか？

Huggingface’s Answer

Whether the Ganges or the Seine is more polluted requires considering various factors, but it is generally believed that the Ganges is more polluted.

The Ganges is a large river that originates in the Himalayas in India and flows through northern India, with a total length of 2,500 kilometers. The Ganges is a very important river in Indian religion and culture, and many Indians visit the river for bathing and worship. However, the Ganges has suffered from severe pollution for many years. The main causes of river pollution are untreated wastewater from factories and households, industrial waste, and ashes and animal carcasses that are thrown into the river during religious ceremonies. These pollutants may contain E. coli and other pathogens, which pose a serious risk to human and animal health.

On the other hand, the Seine is a 776-kilometer-long river that flows through northern France and is well known for flowing through the city of Paris. The Seine has also been polluted due to urbanization and industrialization, but not as severely as the Ganges. Sources of pollution in the Seine include wastewater from cities, agricultural water, and industrial water. However, the Parisian authorities are actively working to improve the water quality of the Seine, and the water quality is gradually improving.

According to a 2018 report published by the Yale University Environmental Law and Policy Center, an international water quality assessment organization, the Ganges is ranked 10th among the most polluted rivers in the world, indicating the severity of water pollution. On the other hand, the Seine is not in the top 10 in the report.

From the above, it can be said that although both the Ganges and the Seine are polluted, the Ganges faces more serious pollution.

Impression:

It was as expected, but just out of curiosity, I would like to see just how dirty the Ganges is.

#Dialogue with Gemini #The Seine #The Ganges #rei morishita #Paris Olympics #pollution #religious ceremonies

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mysticalblizzardcolor · 4 months ago

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Descent of the Ganges is a monument at Mahabalipuram, Tamil Nadu, India.

It's is 96 by 43 feet, it is a giant open-air rock relief carved on two monolithic rock boulders.

The legend depicted in the relief is the story of the descent of the sacred river Ganges to earth from the heavens led by Bhagiratha. The descent of the Ganges and Arjuna's Penance are portrayed in stone at the Pallava heritage site. The relief is more of a canvas of Indian rock cut sculpture at its best not seen anywhere in Bharat.

#India #Indian Sculpture #Vedic Temples #Ancient India #vedic #bhakti #krishna #iskcon #hare krishna #mahabalipuram #The Ganges #Bharat

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laurenillustrated · 6 months ago

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Mystery Inc. but it’s the 1890s