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atdwarriorsau · 27 days ago
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if you had to change anything like. big big abt plot in canon what would you change
Dawn of the Clans next question.
Man like... so much. I think most warrior cats fans can agree the writing isn't that... good.
I could say so much. The fact that racism, xenophobia, colonialism, sexism, ableism, fatphobia, abuse apologia, are not only all present, but normalized and are explicitly shown as the moral and righteous viewpoint/status quo/thing to do. Now portraying these topics, even in children's book (which wc is), is fine, as long as it's clear these things are wrong. It's important for this information to be accessible to kids, if they read about abuse they can understand that their own situation is bad; hence why Kosa bill and book banning are real bad. I want to say the writing in this regard isn't deliberate, but not to get controversial but I don't exactly trust white middle aged British women (sowwy)
A post about my dotc feelings, see @bonefall for more or the moonkitti Bumble video
ANYWAYS
I think it's fine to have these kinds of elements in warrior cats, but you HAVE to show that they are bad things. Which is a believe you should have anyway but...
For overarching stufff, I would really love to do something about that ableism. Part of the reason it's so weird that wc society treats disabled cats like... that... is because if you look at real cats that are blind, or have a missing leg or whatever, they are almost always perfectly mobile, and most of them could hunt. Cats rely on their other senses far more than humans do. You could find plenty of videos of 'disabled' cats doing just as much as 'abled' cats.
You could argue that the cats in wc are basically human, which is true (moonkitti's 'the cats are just people' video). HOWEVER, you know who else can still be mobile and do things with disabilities? That's right, humans!
It doesn't make sense from either the 'wc cats are cats' OR the 'wc cats are humans' angles.
And the thing is, Jayfeather was the perfect opertunity to tackle this! Everycat and their mothers have made a Jay as a warrior au, and even without that we could have had a great discussion through the books about the society's ableism. Don't even get me started on Briarlight's death. Absolutely insulting.
As for smaller plot things, ima do stuff for all the arcs!
The Prophecies Begin
(I have not read every book but have absorbed the plot through Tumblr osmosis)
- This is the best arc writing wise so I don't have much but...
- the last book. not great
- It's such a weird sudden heelturn from the previous books. Like Firestar adopting the xenophobia when it doesn't make that much sense from a character standpoint? If anything, he should at least have to struggle with his duty to the clans vs his feelings about Scourge. It would make sense for Firestar to sympathize with him
- Speaking of....
- Listen ima say it. While I love the aesthetic and potential, as it is, Scourge is overrated. Send the fire and pitchforks and stuff, ima say it like it is. Be honest without the Scourge Manga would he be as popular. Be so fr
- It's so so so weird for Scourge and Bloodclan to have similar if at least conflated ideologies with Tigerstar. Why would they be weird about half clan kits and such.
- Also.... sigh... the evil atheist thing gets me. I'm a certified Starclan hater and it is so boring for every villain to be the evil atheist (unless you're going to actually explore that) Implying someone is evil or doomed or whatever because they lack (your) religion is bad and dumb
- and this is the arc I have the least to say about
The New Prophecy
- We do NOT need to know every step of the journey
- Biggest problems here are pacing and POV
- This arc is about clan solidarity. That's had to pull of with only Thunderclan POV. We NEEDED at least Wind and River POV and thos arc would be perfect
- Tribe racism is bad.
Power Of Three
- If you thought TNP pacing was bad...
- huh I wonder if that has anything to do with the arc being created for the fire scene. I don't know though
- Listen I love the idea of slice of life but you have to stick to that. PO3 can not decide on high stakes magic stuff or slice of life. Pick a lane.
- Dark Forest plan makes no sense. At all. I ain't gonna explain it here but yeah it's bad
- Also the prophecy. What's up with that. How did their powers affect the battle except maybe Lion? What's up with them not knowing where it came from?
- This arc has just... so may dangling plot threads. You just keeping throwing them at the wall and giving no answers.
- The cave. The time travelling. Random tribe visit. Rock. Midnight. The spirit world. SOL. THE ECLIPSE
- Most of the things I mentioned have... wait for it... NO EFFECT ON THE MAIN PLOT WHATSOEVER. OR ANY PLOT
- The ending feels like a middle. Like I love the Holly stuff but that's for the middle idk
- Also I would love for Lionblaze to have a paw in killing Ashfur
- I don't like the weird 'adoption bad' thing they have going on
- Oh and Tribe racism is bad again
Omen Of The Stars
- OK I need to talk about the prophecy.
- First literally any other candidate would be better than Firestar. Raise you hand if you cared. Oh alright.
- Hollyleaf, Ivypool, Breezepelt, Flametail, idk Whitewing?
- Speaking of give Flametail something to do or cut him. Why is this like our only main series Shadowclan POV? (this arc in general has too many POVs, pleaseeee we do not need Lionblaze POV)
- 'Hollyleaf didn't have a power because we couldn't think of one.' Gives Dovewing a power
- Just throwing in a quick 'Dovewing deserved better' in here...
- For spending thirteen books setting up the Dark Forest battle, man was that disappointing and a lil boring. Good for them for killing Firestar tho. Shoulda killed more guys off.
- Starclan acting like complete idiots for no reason. Cool I'm sure this will never happen again.
- One tiny thing to make the plot better. Make it so Starclan can't come to the living world (or won't hehe) while DF spirits can. Makes the battle actually plausible (for DF) and adds more stakes and tension. (Maybe the prophecy came from the DF... hm...)
- Oh and Tribe racism bad again
A Vision Of Shadows
- Okay if this is the Skyclan return arc why do they have such small a role?
- Darktail's backstory sucks I'll say it. Cowards
- The Tigerheartstar book and the Hawkwing book should've been inside the main arc. Whyd you give me required reading. At least the Hawkwing book anyways. Skyclan's journey to the lake 100% needed to be IN this arc
- Here begins the reoccurring theme of the ending destroying the arc. This is probably the least bad of those. But still not great chief. If you can't fill the six books with enough plot maybe you need more plot... (or yanno replace b6 with Hawkwing's Journey and shuffle it around? Who said that?)
- Alderheart's character growth being offscreen and him just not having anxiety anymore irks me
- First time the sister would have been a more interesting protag. This will happen again..
- Also the mediator stuff flopped. Skyclan should have invented it earlier. Skyclan NEEDED to be so much more weirder. Now we have copy-paste clan number five, old people edition
The Broken Code
- Sisters being more interesting part two
- First time two of the protags have a relationship while the other protag has the entire plot. This will happen again.
- What did you do to Mothwing.
- The ghosts thing, while interesting, yet again requires required reading from a super edition. Okay. Leafpool's death not being in a main arc book is insulting
- Alright this arc was pretty alright I'll admit it
- If Bristlefrost somehow returns I'm deducting points I stg
A Starless Clan
- (the Southpark kid voice) KILL NIGHTHEART!
- Ugghhh can I get a misogyny number two combo?
- Everything else with Sunbeam except Nightheart is SO interesting and the arc needed more of that.
- Oh we have evil atheists again. Okay.
- At least Curlfeather had a bit of interest. Splashtail flopped hard in, you guessed it, the last book! Yet again they ran out of plot for the last book, sad!
- Starclan should stay away more often tbh
Changing Skies
- I could just say Moonpaw's parentage but that would be lazy
- ughhhhhh I bet we're getting loads of ablesim against Leafstar. Sounds fun. Also Leafstar is one million years old but I doubt they'd have the balls to kill her off. Modern Skyclan will never have another leader.
- Also ableism against Moonpaw cause I'd bet a dollar they'd imply DID with her and they will NOT do any research and it will ableist as hell. If the voice is evil istg
- The absorbed twin thing isn't great either. Don't get me started on the chimeraism thing. None of it works that way
- Also we might be leaving the territories again. I bet the next place will have even less to do in it than the lake
- They will find a way to get Stormclan stuff in here and it will be bad and I will be mad about it
- The arc ain't even come out yet and I'm mad lol
Ughhhhh yeahh that went long... ugh picture of my cat fo your troubles..
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fyeahaudiodrama · 1 year ago
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I made one TNP OC last…but what’s a pigeon without their flock?
So, I present you with the Night Post crew of Station 32:
Sylvie Perdue (she/they): a two-year courier who helps with the admin in her office; inherited the position from a great-aunt they didn’t even know existed; sweet and generous with her time but a bit of a space case; has the worst sense of direction of any known courier and has to follow her own markers to get back down a straight road
Argent Strife (she/her): a six-year courier who ain’t afraid of no ghost; her proclaimed disdain for the supernatural has gotten into trouble on more than a few occasions, both with her boss and with her haunt; got stuck with this job in the first place as punishment for skimming from the till of her last job; butch lesbian extraordinaire with a prematurely grey undercut
Demo (they/them): a three-year member of the Night Post who deals with most of the station’s admin, supply requisitions, and, on occasion, vehicle maintenance; wears sunglasses at all times, even outside at night; has numerous piercings and tattoos, including knuckle tats that say “NITE POST”; they give a different story about how they got roped into this job every time they’re asked; for some reason, their boss staunchly refuses to give them a route
Lillianne Morris (she/her): a 60-year veteran of the Night Post; the tight-laced postmaster of this station; also, a ghost who died at her desk and then just kept working; her subordinates aren’t entirely sure if she’s aware of her own demise, but since she becomes corporeal enough on the new and full moons to keep signing their paychecks, they don’t bring it up for fear that upper management will replace her with someone worse
Hector Castillo (he/him): a six-month courier with serious regrets; took the position so his best friend, who he’d been crushing on for years, wouldn’t have to; said best friend has since accepted a cushy admin job in Gilt City and his calls have become less and less frequent; might be in a slightly better mind space if he could just get a decent day’s sleep, so if all these haunting visions of teeth in the night could just fuck off, that’d be great
Bill Harlo (he/him): 20-year custodian for the surrounding post stations; seems to favor Station 32, possibly because it’s the last station on his circuit and the pigeons don’t mind if he kicks up his feet for a smoke break when he finishes the job early; sometimes gives Sylvie a ride to her haunt if she’s having trouble figuring out which way to go
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burningsunsau · 2 months ago
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Alright, time to explain my Warrior Cats au.
TPB Changes:
• Shadefang is a young Windclan warrior who is Graystripe's equivalent of Onewhisker, but they met before TPB began. Shadefang got with Doespring, who had one little daughter named Peppernose, who accompanied Crowfeather on his journey with the traveling group.
• Scourge and Firestar knew eachother when they were young. Scourge still takes a life of Firestar, but realizes it's his brother because of the red streak on his head and red on the back of his ears. He and Firestar end up joint killing Tigerstar, and Scourge becomes a Thunderclan warrior named Frostreed.
• Medicine Cat Ravenpaw named Ravenweb.
TNP Changes:
• Hawkfrost and Peppernose join as travelers with the journeying group. Peppernose comes out of this with a secret relationship with a white rouger she-cat named Snow, and Hawkfrost comes out of this with more good relationships and friendships.
• Tawnypelt and Feathertail become a couple, and Tawnypelt has her kits with the surrogate Apple, a sandy colored rouge tom who is the brother of Snow. They end up having Flamekit, Dawnkit, and Applekit, who become Flametail, Dawnstrike, and Appleheart.
• Tallstar chooses Shadefang as Windclan's new leader instead of Onewhisker. Mudclaw still has his rebellion, but ends up getting defeated anyways. Shadestar now appoints Tornear as his deputy for siding with him even when his brother Mudclaw was leading the rebellion.
• Bramblestar takes the fall for Feathertail and ends up getting amnesia from it. His fur becomes lighter and his eyes become yellow (think Bill Cipher possession yellow), and he takes on the name Bramblepath. He and Squilf become besties, they never become mates, and Ashfur takes the blame for parentage of the three. This also ensures that he doesn't mentor Lionblaze so THANK GOD
• A rouge named Tangle seeks shelter in Thunderclan with her tiny son after her mate Stone abandonds them in a harsh storm. This is set during Leafpool's Wish, and is after Leafpool brings the three to Thunderclan. The thing is, the three are now surrogated by Crowfeather for Leafpool and Nightcloud, so they are also different as well. The three are named Jaykit, Hollykit, and Goldenkit, who grow to be Jayflight, Hollycloud, and Goldenblaze respectively. Tangle becomes a queen, then to elder, named Tanglecloud, and her son is named Dustkit, who becomes Dustbreeze.
The arc really starts with the first book in Power of Three, which is now called Power of Four. Our protagonists are Jaykit, Hollykit, Goldenkit, and Dustkit. While Dustkit may not be related to them or even be of clan cat blood at all, they still basically see him as a brother, and Tangelcloud will often let them all sleep together in her nest just so they can cuddle with Dustkit. The usual stuff of PO3 is prominent in this book, but we get changes with the new POV, more focus on Midnight the Badger playing a big part in the prophecies of this arc, and adjusted personalities and stories of our familiar protagonists.
I'll see you when the book is ready.
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yoursatanboyfriend · 3 years ago
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antoinettesart · 8 years ago
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What a Spoopy Trash Boy (it's the lighting) I'm the deepest anyone could possibly be in Ninth Paradigm Hell @yoursatanboyfriend
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mahatka · 5 years ago
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northern-passage · 3 years ago
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i’ve shared this on patreon already but i’m taking a bit of a writing break this month, i’ve paused billing on patreon & i don’t plan to share any updates or snippets etc here for a bit.
i’ve restricted both Siren’s Call and The Northern Passage, and both are only available for patrons for the time being.
i’m going to be working on fixing & cleaning up some of the code throughout chapter 1 of tnp, and my plan is to publicly relaunch both demos on june 25th.
thanks everyone for understanding :-)
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rainbowratsstuff · 7 years ago
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gbtiger · 7 years ago
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The Man Who Calls Himself "Bill Cipher"
I threw together a playlist for @yoursatanboyfriend‘s incredible fic “The Ninth Paradigm” along with some fan art of our boy Bill. I hope the songs fit!
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f-imaginings · 8 years ago
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Didn’t think I’d have to do this but I’ve got people coming to me left and right over this nonsense, conveying threats to have my work reported and pulled down blah blah blah, so let me summarize my case publicly and let you all make up your own minds. 
I’ll start by saying truthfully that I’ve never read TNP. I don’t generally read fics with non-con in them bc of bad past experiences, but from reading the prologue when researching what i supposedly plagiarized the writing seemed really good and enjoyable, with interesting themes and references. I’m sure its a lovely fic and people who enjoy it should as it stands on its own merits. 
I also haven’t plagarised anything. There is a lot of he said she said happening over that so I’ll just present the facts I have and let people make up their own minds. So far there’s just been one side of the story very loudly being told. I’ll say my piece here and people can make up their own minds. 
So I’ve never read their story. I’ve been getting some nasty harrassment though claiming I plagarised it to write my own story, which is Knowing Me, Knowing You on ao3. It’s a Billford fic, and it’s inspired by abba lyrics, Gravity Falls the series, and Journal Number 3. 
Two days ago I got this anonymous comment on my fanfic. 
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This anonymous poster spammed the comments in the fic in many chapters, and also felt the need to tell everyone who regularly comments on my fic by replying to their comment how shitty my writing is and that it’s plagarising this other fic I’ve never read. 
The link to the full comments thread is here if people want to read and do their own sleuthing. 
The comments rather spitefully tell me how my writing is terrible, how I’m scum, how unoriginal I am ect. I’ll let you all read it and make up your own minds about whether this is fair to say or not. 
I then decided to go speak to the author of this fic i had supposedly plagarised, because I thought it was a misunderstanding, or that a follower of theirs who was very zealous had took it upon themselves to go rogue and harass other writers who (these are the similarities as far as they’ve been explained to me) write Billford, and have written about a human Bill helping Stanford with the portal. 
Here is my conversation with the author of TNP, screenshotted, so you can read that and make up your own mind about it too. 
It was quite startling for me to have been spoken to like this when I went amicably to a fellow writer hoping to solve a situation that was groundless and unnecessary. I was called a liar, and passive aggressive for having approached the author directly with the situation seeking a resolution. 
In an ideal world I would like an apology for this behavior, but I won’t hold my breath, I’m just here to state my case and clear my name. 
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This is my fanfiction. It’s 163243 words long as of it’s last update. I started writing it on the last day of January 2017, and since then it has inspired me boundlessly. I get a lot of joy out of writing it, which is clear to see when you look at how quickly I’ve been churning out these words in this small space of time. Three months have gone by and I’m on 18 chapters and it’s been wonderful to write, I’ve had some lovely reviews from folks, and these have been the first negative reviews I have seen for it. 
I asked people who have read both of the works, my own and TNP, what the similarities were that led the author to believe I had plagarised. 
What I heard as feedback was:
Similarities
Both Billford pairing fanfics
Both involving human Bill
To do with building the portal
Differences: 
Storyline
Plot
Character design. My human Bill is black. He’s black, with gold eyes, yellow hair, and gold binding tattoos sewn into his skin. I’ve been told their Bill is italian??? Not sure where the similarities are there. 
Dynamic between Bill and Ford (TNP apparently has Bill and Ford sharing the nicknames darling and kitten. Rest assured, through the entirety of my 160,000 word fanfic not once do my Bill or Ford ever call each other anything even remotely resembling ‘darling’ or ‘kitten’ they are more likely to call each other a pain in the ass in my fic) 
World building
Characters (mine contains plenty of Fiddleford, Wendy’s mum, who I have called Willow Oakwood bc a lumberjack falls in love with her, Lazy Susan, Keyhole and Amorphous Shape, the paradox buddies, Pyronica and Kryptos on the front lines, Argos Panoptes, Raha Diniero ect) 
Sexual content (TNP contains rape and sexual harassment, my work is a slow burn of epic proportions, they only kissed for the first time in my last chapter, and Bill is averse to being touched by Stanford at first. My work also is entirely consensual as I can’t write non-con due to personal experiences)
Key events (my story involves events such as hunting down the gobblewonker with a harpoon, nearly being devoured by the island head monster, going on a double date with lazy suzan and wendy’s mum and raising the undead, giving birth to the summerween trickster, stealing treasure from Quentin Trembley’s grave, a heist at the Cryptix Noire Warping Black Market’s, and Fiddleford’s wife Patricia telling baby Tate to stop crying) 
Writing style (My writing is more light hearted, I make lots of jokes because I want to enjoy my own story. I’m told TNP is more serious)
Direction (I do not know where TNP is going, having never read it, but I know my story is going to follow along with canon up to the betrayal, after it, following Ford through the portal, and back out for Weirdmageddon) 
Having completed four years of university studying English literature, I’m very aware of how serious plagiarism is, and how seriously allegations of plagiarism need to be taken. If someone’s poured their effort into creating a work, they deserve to be credited for that work, and if a work was created in reference to something else it’s respectful to cite your references. So here are the works I have referenced in order to create this fic. 
- Hirsch, A, 2016, Journal 3; Gravity Falls, Disney Press, LA. - Gravity Falls, complete series, 2016, DVD, Disney XD, created by Hirsch, A, et al. - Abba’s complete back catalogue. 
I’ve also referenced several Wikipedia pages; the page on black markets, on hyperpyrexia, on Leonardo Da Vinci, on stethoscopes, on Argos Panoptes in Greek Mythology, and the page listing the different planets and races in the entire Star Trek series. I’ve relied on the Gravity Falls wikia to help me maintain accuracy with character names, places, details about the Shack and so on. 
I haven’t referenced, nor have I read The Ninth Paradigm. I would have tentatively liked to from reading the synopsis, but I have decided I won’t be reading it any time soon following the conversation I had with the author of the fanfic, which has soured me somewhat from consuming their content.
I work full time, 38 hour work weeks, and run a second job on the side. Something I don’t have time for is drama. I’m quite frankly surprised I even have the time to dedicate to writing this fanfic of mine, but I do, because I love Gravity Falls, I am excited about the story I’m writing, I get to laugh at my own jokes when I’m writing, I get to entertain myself, and in posting this here, hopefully entertain others.
I’m not writing this to impress anyone with my prose or build this fic into anything more than it is, it’s just a bit of fun set to Abba lyrics, inspired by Dipper in the shower singing Disco Girl aka Dancing Queen.
If I were a younger writer, or if I were less confident in myself, this kind of harassment, both in the comments here on ao3, and the conversation I had with the author of TNP when I looked to resolve the situation, would have been incredibly damaging. If I were a younger writer, being harassed, I would find the fandom uninviting, toxic, incredibly discouraging and unhealthy.
Billford as a pairing has a small enough fandom as is, looking through the tag on tumblr, there are anti-shippers adding to that environment of harassment. Adding to that environment of harassment within the fandom can only be damaging. I believe fandoms should encourage writers and content producers, that fandom should be a community where you support one another, and the base content you all enjoyed that brought you all together.
Gravity Falls fans are smart. They followed a quirky, clever, coded show from start to finish and loved every bit of it. I’m presenting the above information here so that you can all make your own minds up about this issue. I think that’s fair.
That’s all I have to say about this issue.
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cerisia · 7 years ago
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@yoursatanboyfriend I have the strong urge to draw TNP!Bill as every cat picture I see on the internet (picture source)
Commission Info / Buy me a coffee!
[do not repost, reblogs only]
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doritopaw101 · 4 years ago
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Just finished reading chapter 15 of book 1 and have come here to say that Thunderclan (mostly Sandstorm and Icebelly) need a therapist except that I don’t think anyone at the moment is the type of cat for that. Maybe Cody from the TNP could become the clan therapist because she seems like the type who would understand the problems and worries of cats to talking to her
Yeah. So many cats in the clans need therapy. Sandstorm and Icebelly especially.
Yeah no one in the clans currently could really fit the bill and if anything if they tried it would only harm the other clans the helper cat is not part of. Psychological warfare.
Cody is a interesting idea for a therapy cat. I’m already thinking of ideas.
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yoursatanboyfriend · 3 years ago
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a summary of Bill’s social life
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antoinettesart · 8 years ago
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8ball is certainly a better painter than I Presurgery!bill @yoursatanboyfriend it's the friendly ghost
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metamorphorestworld · 4 years ago
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Karena nulis ini jg prihatin gitu ngincer bule luar duh...kata bapakku aja bule ngapain kesini kalo terjamin hidupnya ya tinggal di negaranya, yg kesini khan para pengemis gelandangan disono ga laku kesini karena disini kebanyakan suka ekspor pdhal ya sama aja, mending sih lokal yg berwawasan luas pny masa depan dan jelas sih ya statusnya anak siapa tinggal dmn karena udah deket ma bapakku sejak kecil ga cmn cerita ttg Walisongo sgl pemikiran mereka waktu kerja di bontang sih ya begitu jg sih ya pny temen bule banyak jd sedikit banyak tahu lah karakternya mereka suka hidup bebas no komitmen apapun ga cowok ga cewek gitu kulitnya aja pink🐷🐖🐷 yah begitulah ya😚😚😚😚 kebanyakan sombong eng hobi ngerendahin karena mata biru kulit putih bule eropa ini ya yg ras pink2 gitu dan intinya di luar Indonesia hati2 ya yg serumpun aja bisa nyakitin apalagi yg ga, no baper ma bule dilihat saja, ditiru yg baik, berteman saja cukup😁😁😁
Oh ya ngomongin dua om itu Bhai Salman ma om John pasti ngomongin Bollywood nih ya, karena Bollywood tuh kece produksi filmnya terbesar sedunia sesudah itu Hollywood karena pesannya banyak dan walo ada bbrp tambal sulam wajah msh terlihat asli sih para pemainnya ya, kalo Korea sih bagus dulu jg suka Drakor tp makin kesini nonton gini ini wajahnya asli ga ya itu yg otakku pikirkan jd ga nyaman ujungnya 🤣🤣🤣🤣 begitu aku dan sukanya India dr dulu selalu ceweknya srg pake saree terlihat sgt menjunjung tinggi budayanya disini aja kalo batik ga ditetapkan UNESCO jd warisan Indonesia katanya pake batik tua, jd sih saat aku ngefans suka ga cmn personal aja, aku meluas pikiranku ttg budaya, adat, segala macam nya tingkah laku aku pelajari 😘😘😘😘😘 jadi meluber kmn2 bahas tumbar day😁😁😁 karena 2 sisi itu bisa disatukan dan bisa membuat kita smkn kaya melihat segala perbedaan dan keanekaragaman yg Tuhan ciptakan di muka bumi ini, khan jadi quote awal tahun #noted🥕
Ok gaes kuakhiri ya gaes, now sdh Jumat 1 Januari 2021 pkl.04.27💦💦💦💦💦
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‘Independent’ Facebook fact-checker exposed as partisan smear factory packed with CNN alumni
Facebook fact-checker Lead Stories is a biased outfit bristling with ex-CNN staffers that presents itself as neutral, despite most of its employees having donated to the Democratic Party, a conservative outlet has revealed.
The National Pulse (TNP), whose story about supposed financial links between Black Lives Matter, Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, and fundraiser ActBlue was flagged as “partly false” by Lead Stories on Facebook, did some digging on Wednesday to find out who was behind the smear, after their efforts to contest the label were apparently stonewalled.
Alan Duke didn’t want to speak, and urged me to email him to “start the appeals process”.
He then hung up.
Why should I appeal to some guy I’ve never heard of, at some website I’ve never heard of, to appeal a story that I know to be factually accurate?
— Raheem Kassam (@RaheemKassam) June 17, 2020
What they discovered was an organization staffed almost entirely by Democratic donors, half of whom had worked for CNN in the past. A quarter of the employees were recurring Democratic donors, TNP revealed, suggesting an egregious conflict of interest, given the story they’d flagged at the conservative outlet was about contributions to a Democratic presidential campaign.
Lead Stories founder Perry Sanders has donated over $10,000 to Democratic political campaigns, including Hillary Clinton’s and Barack Obama’s presidential runs, TNP showed, providing copious links to back up the laundry list of partisan affiliations it had stumbled across. Several other writers had Democratic contributions on their records too. One, Gita Smith, was listed in 99 separate small-dollar donations to various Democratic candidates, as well as some contributions directly to ActBlue and the activism group Indivisible.
Editor-in-chief Alan Duke, who had initially rebuffed TNP’s editor’s request to have its fact-check reconsidered, spent nearly three decades with CNN as a reporter and editor, while senior editor Monte Plott spent over a decade with the Trump-loathing network. Five other names on the group’s masthead had also worked at CNN at some point.
Nor were CNN and the Democratic Party the only partisan affiliations to be found among the Lead Stories staff. Before spending 10 years with CNN, writer Jessica Ravitz – who bills herself as a “freelance journalist and storyteller” on her LinkedIn page – spent nearly four years with the Anti-Defamation League, a self-styled anti-“hate” watchdog that spends most of its considerable resources demonizing political voices that deviate from the neoliberal centrist mainstream-media line.
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Lead Stories had unwittingly triggered the investigative frenzy by flagging TNP’s story titled “Black Lives Matter Website, ‘Defund the Police’ Donations Go to ‘Act Blue’, the ‘Biden for President’ Campaign’s Top Source of Donations” on Wednesday. It also overlaid it with a grayed-out “party-false information” warning screen on Facebook and included the story in the “Hoax Alert” section of its website. Ironically, the fact-checker was actually correct in this case: BLM’s donations go through, not to ActBlue, which is a payment processor for Democratic campaigns and not the ultimate source of the Biden campaign’s cash.
However, when TNP editor-in-chief Raheem Kassam corrected the headline to change “to” to “through,” he claimed Lead Stories refused to lift the “partly false” distinction, even though the new headline was factually correct and the meat of the story – that Biden’s campaign and Black Lives Matter were using the same payment processor and, thus, gave the impression of being ideological peers – hadn’t been called into question.
What has been called into question is the idea of Lead Stories as an independent fact-checker. While Facebook defended it by pointing out that Lead Stories is certified by the Poynter Institute’s International Fact-Checking Network (IFCN), such a designation is unlikely to put any doubts to rest, given that Poynter and the IFCN are supported by such bogeymen of bias as eBay billionaire Pierre Omidyar and currency speculator George Soros’s Open Society Foundations.
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