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bonefall · 1 year ago

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For the cat who takes out Juniperclaw, maybe if any of Leafstar's kits are still alive besides Harrybrook (or just him idk how you characterize any of the three), perhaps one of them would go with it? Leafstar might not have liked "an eye for an eye" and she'd probably teach them it's wrong to seek revenge, but I do think one of them can be talked into it, in the name of SkyClan and Leafstar. Make it more personal when Juniperclaw is told who they are in relation to the cat he killed, making it click in his head what is about to happen.

Oooo, great idea, I GOTTA do that... hmmm. Much as I wish I could cash in another chip for Firefern, since I adore her name, it's gotta be Harrybrook.

In-canon, his character is consistently harsh and distrusting and he's got it even worse in BB. It could be like his mother is the only thing actually holding him back. If anyone is going to end up being Waspstar's "Cleaner," it absolutely has to be him.

Harrybrook: We had a good thing, you stupid son of a foxheart! We had Leafstar, we had a camp, we had everything we needed and it all ran like woodwork! You could have shut your mouth, hunted, and caught as much prey as you ever needed. It was perfect! But no! You just had to blow it up! You, and your pride and your ego! You just had to be the man! If you’d known your place, we’d all be fine right now!

A little recap of BB!Harrybrook, since it's been a while since I've mentioned him or any of his fragments;

Harrybrook is the son of Leafstar, Echosong, and Billystorm.

SkyClan does not have the Cleric's Vow.

This is because SkyClan was exiled at the beginning of the Ripple Era; before Larkstripe's Strike which resulted in the unofficial vow being codified.

it is actually a positive in their culture if their Cleric previously raised kittens. Echosong probably did have other litters in her long life.

Echosong is also alive to the current arc; Frecklewing joined with The Kin. Fidgetflake is still around, but he's probably still the "junior" Cleric of sorts.

Important point being that Harrybrook has personal stake in SkyClan's unique customs. His only surviving parent is a Cleric.

I wouldn't be surprised if this is what makes him such an effective killer. He has a knowledge of poisons and anatomy.

All cats know where the carotid artery is, they find it all the time when they put the killing bite in the wrong spot. Habr knows where else a single blow can bleed you out.

As a little kitten, he was named after Harry, who helped to save his mother.

What no one knew at the time was that Harry was being courted by an ancient monster. Sol, the God of Autumn, Change, and Tricks, wanted to play a game.

The rules were simple; Sacrifice three kits.

Sol wanted to see how far Harry, once baring the name Cinders, would go in pursuit of the power it could offer him. Sol HATES a boring vessel.

Harry JUMPED at the chance, offering two of his own kits as the last one got away. He just needed one more.

SkyClan almost tempted him into tucking his ambition away. Here, he was safe and accepted for the first time... but his desire for power won out in the end.

Sol offers immortality, the ability to mould reality like clay, the whole world could be Harry's toy.

(WIP SECTION)

In some way, Sol was able to manipulate Billystorm. I'm still working out how severe this manipulation was.

He likely got to Leafstar too. Possibly intentionally driving a wedge between them-- convincing Billystorm that SkyClan was unsafe and he'd raised the kits more than either his mate or his mate's girlfriend. He had a right to keep them safe, even if that meant taking them from everything they'd ever known.

And to Leafstar, he told her Billystorm was plotting against her. That she needed to be as firm with him as she is with the cantankerous Sharpclaw. If she's not, he might take those kittens back to his humans, and who knows what they'd do?

In any case, a fight between them causes Billystorm to leave. I'm not sure if I'm keeping Leafstar exiling him.

(Note: I don't really like how either character acts in the canon story. Or the framing. Or... anything about it really. It's bad Todd.)

In the past, I'd made it so Billy ended up trying to take the kids to his human, and then the human was the one who decided to get rid of the kits. INSTEAD it works a LOT better if Billystorm went back to his humans, and Harry then used this as a lure to get the kittens out of camp.

"Let's go visit your Ba, kittens. I know where he is. Just follow me."

While living in the town, Billystorm meets up with the child of Harry who got away, and learns that they've all been set up.

Billystorm deserves to go run save his kids and punch a God in the face I think.

DAYLIGHT WARRIOR MORE LIKE LIGHTS OUT WARRIOR! KAPOW!!

(Much as I will miss the gutpunch brutality of Billystorm realizing that his human can't be trusted. I'll just use the idea someplace else.)

(WIP SECTION END)

Stormkit was unable to be saved. There was only Firefern and Harrybrook.

Harry has been terrified of water since then. It represents everything awful that's ever happened to him.

He doesn't even like when it rains. Storms always seem to bring terrible things.

Firefern ended up dying on the journey to the Lake. I'm leaning towards changing it to infection, during the time that Echosong is missing (taking Frecklewing's arc).

Her other mother wasn't there to help her, and she died of something preventable. Something Harry knows she could have healed.

Harrybrook hates his name. I think he was too quiet about it, though, to the point where his family wasn't aware of it.

They probably figured it was overwriting Harry's memory. It's Harrybrook's name now, instead. Harry just feels like it's a reminder of being tricked.

I think at one point he should get an honor title, but I'm still working it out. He might just be keeping Harrybrook as a grim reminder.

If it's him who kills Juniperclaw, I know for a fact he'd take Waspstar's orders very seriously; "Please be discreet and professional." It's only mostly personal, you see. More importantly, this is for SkyClan.

Leafstar wouldn't have approved. But she's not here now.

He'd quietly intercept Juniperclaw as he approaches the camp, standing in his way, looking him up and down without a twinge of emotion on his face. Juniperclaw's hackles are raised immediately. He lived with SkyClan before Heartstar reformed ShadowClan-- everyone knows who Harveybrook is.

"I've- I've come to pay my respects," He says proudly, standing tall and noble. Even after that he did, he has the boldness to hold himself as a brave warrior. What he knows he did, and to who he's talking to. Harrybrook shouldn't fault him for not knowing how arrogant he comes across-- but does anyway.

"Yes, we've been expecting you," He flicks his tail and dips his head respectfully, "Right this way."

The trail doesn't lead to camp.

When Juniperclaw begins to realize that they're taking a strange path, he just waves it away as an odd feeling. It's been a while since he's been here, after all. But the tickle doesn't go away. It gets stronger and stronger, until he recognizes the northern border of what used to be ShadowClan's full range.

And that's when he halts, "Where exactly are you taking me?"

"Not any further if you don't want to," Though Harrybrook's eyes are wide like he's about to pounce on prey and his massive body is buckled low, prowling, sizing up the distance between them, his tone is soft. Like he's gently explaining something to a fellow warrior. "This would be far enough."

The ex-deputy swallows on a dry throat, frozen in place. Harrybrook relaxes his stance. Juniperclaw seems to be very good at taking orders, just like he is. He knows exactly what to do to keep this discreet and professional.

"If you'd like, we can finish the long walk. It's a place my mother used to like. It has flowers, butterflies, it's a lovely haven," He relaxes his stance, meeting Juniperclaw's terrified eyes with a calm, dutiful look.

The panic distills into a resolve. Like something clicked in his mind, and he was coming to one of those unspoken conclusions that these Forest Four cats all seem to have figured out between them. "All right. I... I think I know the haven you're talking about. We can have our fight there. There's no need to make a scene."

Harrybrook's ear flicks, but Juniperclaw doesn't see it as he brushes past him. It seems he misunderstood what this is. He thinks this is an invocation of the Right to Challenge. That this is going to be a fair fight between warriors.

It's the last mistake he ever made. But he doesn't feel a thing. Back turned to his killer, he hears the snap before he learns in StarClan that it was the sound of his own neck.

#better bones au #BB!Juniperclaw #BB!Harrybrook #Sol's Game #Squirrelflight's Horror #This is the kind of standalone scene I'd have some problems with placing in one of my reworked books #SO I'll have to think of where it goes #Honestly I'm grateful for the SkyClan stuff that seems to be coming out lately #It'll make it easier to show off all the big changes I made in BB!SkyClan

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howlingday · 1 year ago

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Close For Discomfort

A Knightfall Parody

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Jaune: (In bed, Stretches) Morning, babe~.

Cinder: (Yawns) Morning, blue eyes~.

Salem: (Nude) Speaking of blue eyes, I'm making blueberry pancakes! Y'all want any?

Jaune: AGH! Grandma! For Brother's sakes, put on some clothes! Please!

Salem: Clothes ruin my morning flow! You know that! Now, you want blueberry or chocolate chip? (Walking away) Because spoiler alert, the chocolate chips are HELLA PACKED with THC!

Jaune: ...

Cinder: We need to move out.

Jaune: What?!

Cinder: NOW!

Jaune: Wh- I- B- Cindy, we've got free room and board, a literal castle with protection from Grimm attacks and... all the pancakes we could ever want~!

Cinder: Wonderful, but do you have any idea how obnoxious your grandmother has gotten since we started dating? THREE YEARS AGO?

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Cinder: (Doing laundry, Rolls eyes at Salem's "Death To All Faunus" shirt)

Cinder: (Turns over, Sees "And Humans, Too") Oh... That's... better?

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Cinder: And then there was my birthday last month.

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Everyone: HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOOOU~!

Ruby: Happy birthday, Cinder~!

Cinder: Thank you, Re- Er, Ruby.

Salem: Time for presents~! (Hands over gift) Here you go, Cindy~!

Cinder: (Flatly) Oh, good, I wonder what this is- Oh, look, it's a crotchless panties and a nippleless bra. Who would've guessed?

Jaune: Hey, I remember those! I wonder if mine still fit...

Cinder: ...

Ruby: ...

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Cinder: And that's NOTHING compared to the bullshit she pulled last week!

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Cinder: (On Jaune, Drags fingers down chest)

Jaune: (Saucily chuckles, Rubs arm)

Cinder: (Leans down, Stops) Is that a fucking camera?!

Salem: (Distant) STOP BREAKING THE SCENE!

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Jaune: (Holding "Grimm Pictures Presents: Fallen Knights of Passion " CD) In her defense, the production value on this was... incredible~!

Cinder: (Takes CD, Melts it)

Jaune: AW~! I was really good in that one...

Cinder: Yes, you were. Not the point!

Jaune: Mm... I'm not sure how we'd move in the first place. Can't exactly just buy a house as "enemies of humanity".

Cinder: Well, who's to say we have to buy or rent anything? I'm sure we could easily steal a house on the shore.

Jaune: Cinder! You promised!

Cinder: I'm kidding! I'm kidding! ...Mostly.

Jaune: What about Ruby? I'm sure she could vouch for us now that Salem's gone straight.

Cinder: We could... but I don't think she'd be interested in anything I have to say...

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Ruby: Cinder, what the fuck?!

Cinder: (Via scroll) You asked, I delivered.

Ruby: I asked for Sonic merch for my birthday, not for you to kidnap another Sonic character!

Big: I'm Big~!

Ruby: He's Big! ...Wait, is that your name?

Big: Yuh-huh~!

Cinder: Well, I'm glad you're enjoying him~.

Ruby: STOP DROPPING FURRIES ON MY DOORSTEP!

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Jaune: Hm... Well, we could always ask for a trial by combat. I'm already good friends with most huntsmen, so all I'd have to do is ask for the next availability. Not to mention they also pay huge, and we're probably going to win anyways because the only people who could beat either of us that aren't our friends are dead! Oh, I made myself feel bad.

Cinder: And this "next availability" would be when?

Jaune: Let's see, according to the schedule, it is... SIX YEARS?!

Cinder: Fuck that! You need a job!

Jaune: Also gonna be hard since I'm blacklisted as a huntsman and my resume aside from that is just... kid who's related to the woman who tried to wipe out humanity.

Cinder: I don't have a formal education, either. The only thing I learned growing up was the best ways to kill a woman and how to scrub week-old cum off decades-old wood.

Salem: (Pops in) Oh, now that takes me back~...

Cinder: (Hurls fireball) EAT SHIT, YOU OLD HAG!

Salem: (Walks downstairs) Oh, you know I was talking about dick...

Cinder: ...GET ME THE HELL OUT OF HERE.

Jaune: Okay, okay! Uh... We could do manual labor! I've been training to fight the Grimm since I was a teenager, so I can still do other work that requires muscle! We could probably build our own house and a whole neighborhood in, like, a week!

Cinder: I... I don't think I could be doing any physical labor.

Jaune: Why not? You pick ME up and toss me into bed real easy when you're feeling frisky. (Come hithers)

Cinder: (Sighs) That's not what I mean.

Jaune: I know, but I mean... I think you'd be great at it! You're smart, you're driven, you're WAY stronger than me without your maiden powers, and you're-

Cinder: PREGNANT~!

Jaune: ...Wha?

Cinder: And, yeah, I know I can still work, but I think it's really awkward to tell your boss, "Hey, I know I just started, but I'm going to need maternity leave really soon!" It just seems like a clusterfu-

Jaune: (Grabs her) You're pregnant?!

Cinder: Yeah... It's why I didn't ask for any chocolate chips.

Jaune: How... How long?

Cinder: Pregnant? About a month, but I only found out a few days ago! I didn't know how to tell you. We have something good already and everything just sort of happened and I have no idea what happens next or even if you want to-

Jaune: Cinder! (Takes her hands) You... You have made me the happiest man in the entire world. No one has ever made me feel this happy before, except you, and you somehow just keep making me happier.

Cinder: (Eyes watering)

Jaune: I... I love you. And I love our baby.

Cinder: (Hugs him) I love you, too~!

Salem: (Leaning against the wall) So, how much longer until your belly gets bigger? It's been a few centuries since my time, so I'm not sure what the standard is now. And I'd like to know before the next video.

Cinder: If our baby is a girl and we're not out of this house by the time she hits puberty, I WILL murder Salem!

Salem: Tch! Good luck! (Slurps pancake)

#rwby #tfs #team four star #dragon ball z abridged #DragonShortZ #TeamFourStar #jaune arc #knightfall #arcfall #salem #cinder fall #jaune is salem's descendant #ruby rose #big the cat #sonic the hedgehog

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aspoonofsugar · 8 months ago

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Hi, what do you think Yang's future arc might be, besides the whole Team STRQ background?

Since as of now, there is something that I still feel that Yang lacks compared to the other three heroines. I mean, all three of them have a much bigger role to play in the story compared to Yang, who is just Ruby's sister and being a child related to Team STRQ. And I know that it's probably because of the Citrinitas and Rubedo dynamic in alchemy. But isn't acquiring gold one of the results desired from the Magnum Opus?

Anyways, I also want to ask if you think that there should be more Chinese elements through Yang's story besides her name. I mean, why name her after a Chinese Dragon (who is the most revered mythical creature in China) if they aren't gonna apply it to her story? If Yang's focus is her main fairytale Goldilocks, then why not just name her that is reminiscent of the hot-cold-just right dynamics present in her story? The three other heroines has other fairytales associated with them and I wish that Yang has that too (instead of being just a part of their tales i.e. Red Riding Hood, Beauty and the Beast, Wizard of Oz).

I guess that I wanted the writers to explore more of Yang's ptsd arc, like maybe have Yang practice shui-mo or water and ink painting as a coping mechanism; to essentially help her control her emotions or anger. Instead of Taiyang seemingly looking at Yang through other people's lenses instead of through his own (which might be even worse, like hello mini Raven lookalike).

Anyways, thank you for entertaining this ask of mine. Hope you have a great day.

Hi!

Thank you for this rwby ask :D

So, tbh I don't feel Yang's arc is lacking compared to the others. I would say so far she and Weiss have my favorite arcs among the protagonists tbh (and they are 3rd overall).

Anyway, to address your different questions...

YANG'S ROLE

I think Yang's arc will focus on Ruby and Blake, other than Raven and Summer:

She needs to overcome her contradictive feelings towards Ruby

She needs Blake's help to reconcile her feelings for Raven and Summer

If Weiss and Blake's subplots are linked to the world, as they used to represent two extremes of an ongoing conflict (the Schnee Family and the White Feng), then Ruby and Yang are tied to the conflict through their mothers. So, Ruby will have to overcome Summer, as Yang will have to aknowledge she is projecting part of her feelings towards Summer on Raven. You say Yang has no other role, than to be Raven's child, but if so, then Ruby's own subplot ties to Summer. I don't think there is much difference between the two sisters. It's just that Ruby is also the titular character to an extent and the main hero. That's why she is set up to save Cinder together with Jaune. Anyway, I am expecting the STRQ's subplot to actually be pivotal in volume 10 (and hopefully 11 :P - let's dream big). So, I am not worried about Yang's screentime. I actually think there is more of her arc left than Blake, who just needs a wrap up. As a result, I am expecting Blake this time to be the one that ties into Yang's arc.

In short, I would like a repetition/inversion of their Beauty and Beast motif. Throughout the Mistral Arc Blake is the beast having to deal with a corrupting Rose:

I wonder if this time Yang will be the one having to face her "roses":

After all, it is clear Yang has still to fully deal with her conditional idea of love:

Jinxy: The bidding starts at- Yang: No! I was the first one to- Jinxy: …knowing… what it is to feel loved.

Which can only be resolved through Blake, Ruby and her two mothers. In particular, the fact Jinxy asks for Yang's "knowledge about what it is to feel loved" in exchange of her arms says a lot:

Firstly, Yang lost her arm to protect Blake, so it is like her arm in exchange of love. Secondly, in that moment Yang is slowly figuring out her romantic feelings for Blake, so in a sense she is still figuring romantic love out. Finally, Jinxy's items are metaphorical representations of what they ask:

The mouse is exchanged in exchange of a hug, as a reference to the fact Little is Ruby's inner child and needs to be protected

Ruby is asked hope in exchange of Penny's sword because Penny gives her hope

Finally, Yang is asked for the knowledge of being loved in exchange of a part of herself because unconsciously she thinks she has to give up parts of herself to be loved. That is what conditional love is. You can be loved only if you are good, not if you are bad. It is clearly something Yang believes unconsciously and that stems from her abandonment issues. In short, in Mistral she thinks Blake leaves because she doesn't care. I am expecting Vacuo to be about Yang thinking she has to be perfect for Blake to stay, in a sense.

I think realizing she does not have to be would tie nicely with her Goldilock's allusion:

Vale is the TOO HOT: The Yellow trailer has Yang meeting up with Ruby (red=hot) and asking for a beverage with no ice:

Yang: Strawberry Sunrise. No ice. Oh, and one of those little umbrellas.

(Let's highlight Strawberry Sunrise alludes to both the Citrinitas and the Rubedo phase (yellow + red), which ties into the two sisters, as Ruby loves strawberries and Yang is associated with sun)

Throughout the arc Yang shows her strength (body) and her refusal to tame her own feelings, which end with her losing an arm surrounded by fire:

Mistral is the TOO COLD: Yang's search for Raven leads her to Weiss (blue=cold) and into a bar where she asks for some water to cool herself down:

Yang: A water. It's hot out.

It ends with Yang and Blake together and safe, while surrounded by water:

Atlas can be seen as Yang having found an inner equilibrium towards the JUST RIGHT. After all, the arc ends with Yang and Blake (purple= just right) at balance, surrounded by both earth and air (opposing elements)

However, Yang's equilibrium is suddenly disturbed by Ruby's spiral and I am expecting this to have some kind of lasting impact on Yang. So, I am expecting Yang to quickly go over the three stages again, so that she can realize she is in fact just right, without having to always be right at everything :''')

As for the major plot, it will mostly depend by how Raven and Summer tie to it tbh. It is possible that whatever Summer's plan is, it gave Salem's the idea to use Cinder as a vessel for the Maiden's powers (hence linking Ruby and Cinder together even more). Still, there are still questions related to Raven's past, which will probably find an answer and tie to the main conflict. In short, I really see Yang involved with Ruby in the main conflict concerning Raven/Summer and Salem, which will be pretty relevant plot-wise.

After that, Ruby will probably have the peak of her arc, where she saves Cinder. This fits, as Ruby has had less development than Yang, as her arc has been saved up for the end, so that it resonates more, as she is the main heroine.

YANG'S CHINESE INFLUENCE

Yours is a great question! I am not sure tbh! I have wondered myself if there is some kind of allusion hidden behind Yang's chinese influence, but I could not find it. Maybe someone else did or will! Or it will become clear later on.

In general, I think martial arts are a strong inspiration for Yang's character, so she might have been given Bruce Lee's name. After all, another inspiration for Yang is dragon ball's super sayan:

And someone suggested she might allude to Yang Guo from the return of the Condor Heroes, but I have not read the novel, so I am not sure this is true.

I also don't think it's a problem she isn't called after her fairy tale. After all, only Weiss is directly called after it (Weiss Schnee as Snowhite literally). Blake's name means both black and white and it alludes to Blake being both Beast (black) and Beauty (White). However, it does so indirectly. The same goes for Ruby, whose name and surname are much more tied with alchemy, then her fairy tail. She is the philosophical stone (a ruby) and she is tied with rubedo, whose main flower is a red rose.

Yang's name alludes to:

Her being linked to Citrinitas and to gold

Her being the sky-woman (a sunny dragon), so the Wise Woman in juxtaposition to Raven's Bad Mother

Her being the yang to Blake's yin

It ties indirectly to her allusion in how it alludes to the too hot (sunny dragon), which Yang definately is

Probably something else I am missing :P

YANG'S ALLUSIONS

Yang has actually many allusions:

Goldilocks

LRRH

Beauty and Beast

She isn't only a part of her loved ones' allusions, but she shares them, which meta-narratively might tie with her Goldilock's inspiration. As a matter of fact Goldilock has no beginning nor end. We do not know from where Goldilock is from and we have no idea where she goes after she escapes. RWBY gives Yang a beginning and an end in other fairy tales:

She starts as Little Red Riding Hood (Summer's daughter, who loses herself in the wood, while looking for her mother and meets a big bad beast with ferocious eyes)

She will end as Beauty and Beast (the Yellow Beauty, who burns gold in Blake's happy ending)

In general, all the protagonists have secondary allusions, which tie into their loved ones, not only Yang:

Weiss's secondary allusion is the Snow Queen, which is really Winter's primary allusion. That is because her bond with Winter ans her family is key in Weiss's arc.

Blake's secondary allusion is the Jungle Book, which ties to Menagerie as a whole.That is because Blake's arc is about her whole community.

Ruby' secondary allusion is the Wizard of Oz, which ties to the main conflict with Salem, but is also Oscar's main allusion. So, Ruby too ties into someone else's inspiration.

As you can see, RWB too are parts of their loved ones' allusion. Still, since they are protagonists these allusions end up being just as important for them, as they are for the other characters. Yang is the same, but in her case her loved ones are Ruby and Blake, two of the main heroines, hence she ends up sharing the spotlight with them. Again, it is not really different from Ruby sharing the spotlight with Oscar in the Oz's allusion (Oscar too is a main character, after all).

All in all, each protagonist has their own set of motifs and chosen imagery, which is similar, but also different. It is interesting to understand why. I mean, to this day I keep seeing people getting annoyed Blake shares her trailers with another character (Adam and Ilia)... whereas Blake sharing the trailer ties with her shadow motif and with her beauty and beast allusion. Hers is an allusion, which needs to be shared. Just like Yang's allusion needs to be completed by other stories.

YANG'S PTSD ARC

I love your headcanon and it would have been a great idea! That said, I don't dislike what we got. I also disagree about Yang and Taiyang's confrontation tbh.

First of all, Yang's recover does not start with her father, but it starts with Ruby. She feels responsible for Ruby and decides to get herself back together, so she can go find her sister and protect her. It ties with Yang's big sis complex, which still needs to be addressed. That said, it is a good example of Ruby being Yang's too hot. After Adam's attack, Yang is left depressed and symbolically her hair is tied (her flames are not burning). Thanks to Ruby, she finds new drive and starts her journey of recovery.

Taiyang's advice is thematic in nature rather than psychologic (like RWBY as a series puts more focus on themes, rather than psychology). It tells her she needs to control her feelings better and it is an invitation to find inner balance. This sets up Yang's objective really, more than anything. Finally, Taiyang actually discussing Raven with Yang is necessary and healing. Up until that point Yang's attempts to discuss her mother were always shut down by her father, which clearly made her suffer. Taiyang's inability to address Raven (together with his shutting down) is what leads Yang to put herself and Ruby in danger in a misguided attempt to locate her mother. Not only that, but it is also what leads Yang to repress herself to an extent. She forces herself to be the good daughter and strong big sister, but deep down she too is a child, who wants to know why her mothers both left her. Taiyang could help her to come to terms with it, but he stubbornly avoids the topic. That is why him finally addressing it with Yang helps her. It is also a sign Tai is aknwoledging her growing up. I also think Tai's line about Raven is actually telling:

Taiyang: Your mother was... a complicated woman. Like everybody, she had her faults, but those faults are what tore our team apart. And, it did a real number on our family. You both act like the easiest way to tackle an obstacle is through it. That strength is all that matters in a fight. But if you just take a second look, then maybe you see... there's a way around as well. Come on - one more before dinner.

Does this description fit Raven in your opinion, because imo it does only to an extent. The Raven we meet surely does believe in strength, yes, but she also invites Yang to question things and to look at things from a different perspective. Actually, this description not fitting Raven is also brought up by Yang herself:

Yang: You're right. I don't know you. I only know the Raven dad told me about. She was troubled, and complicated, but she fought for what she believed in, whether it was her team or her tribe! Did you kill her too?

Raven might have learnt knowledge to an extent, but she lacks the wisdom of truly understanding herself. She gives up what she believes in out of fear aka she lacks to take her feelings in check. Not only that, but she needs Yang's perspective to truly see the truth of things and to better understand what strenght and wisdom truly are.

Thank you for the ask, it was fun! Even if I am not sure I gave you the answer you wanted :)

Have a great day as well!

#rwby #asksfullofsugar #anonymous #yang xiao long #raven branwen

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kiskivmiske · 3 months ago

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A realization hit me halfway through remembering the dragon world guide.

And I found an original version. Yes, translators didn't add anything. Sunny speculates that serpentine wingless dragon (WD) to be a member of a new tribe.

But there's more!

i searched through the book in Russian before looking for original and found a lot of weird stuff. First, a dragon named Ash or Cinder. Translated as Пепел. As if burny dusty stuff. My initial reaction: either a SkyWing or a new tribe!

Suffered through ungodly ads ridden bugged VPN launcher and found a original. It was translator's mistake. Ash also could mean ash tree. So, proof dismissed.

But another part of the same chapter raised suspicion.

In favourite Leafwing books there's this:

A dragon who couldn't understand why he couldn't fly. And lived in a mountain area, apparently.

Step aside for a second.

CRAZY THEORY TIME BRING IN THE TINFOIL HATS

I'm discussing the white WD with another person in the comments and say that I do not fully approved of the tribe losing wings. Judging by body plan, WD is probably subterranean. My tribe is also subterranean, they did lose their wings by transforming into another pair of talons. And this tribe losing wings altogether is just a waste of limbs for no reason to me personally.

Then I said that it would be more interesting if these dragons had different morphs, both flying and flightless, like ants in a colony. Where flightless do heavy work building stuff and foraging, and winged doing exploration, communication, and hunting from air.

Then it hit me again. So, serpentine pale dragon. With underdeveloped wings. Larvae. Ant larvae are pale, almost transparent. But okay.

Going back to the "mountain meets the moon"

So, this dragon lives in the mountain. Let's look for mountains in Pantala and find this

(Also wtf is this leviathan thing)

Compare it to Pyrrhian mountains.

Does that even look like mountains chat?!?!?! Those are extremely messed up mountains.

You know what those mountains look like to me?

ANTHILLS! MOTHER LOVING ANTHILLS !!!

Oh termite mounds idk

So we have a wingless, possibly beetlewing related dragon living in anthill looking mountains.

My theory is that probably those dragons differentiate by gender. Males are stronger and wingless, females are agile and flying. Maybe, they have more than two sex variants. And each variant has its niche in the colony. For example, ANTS (a surprise, really/s) have infertile female workers, which are wingless, and winged males and females.

Maybe the dragon in question is having a gender problem, since in ants females are wingless and males aren't. Or, vice versa, he wants to be female if we don't have worker female variant and workers are fertile males. WD's sex isn't specified and referred to as "it", so has a good chance of being a female with undeveloped reproductive system. Or it's on a stage when wings and reproductive organs didn't develop YET

#wof #wings of fire #wof theory

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lucygriefer · 4 months ago

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Apothecary AU more random ideas 3

More random blurb ideas. My mind just likes to come up with random ideas. So here's some more random Apothecary AU thoughts/ideas. Especially since I've got no clue what I'll be keeping, what'll be scrapped, or what'll be changed and an idea used for something else.

Also I'm still deciding on if I should make this Apothecary AU as a comic or just publish it as a fanfiction. I'm still debating on it. Especially since if I just make it as a comic that'll take a lot of time and I need to type up everything first. Make sure things stay consistent and all that. That and if it do it as a comic, we'll that'll take a lot of time to work on.

Here's a link to the Apothecary_AU_Blog

So if you wanna see more of the AU without having to scroll through all the other art pieces on my main blog, you can go there and see everything for the Apothecary AU.

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Idea 12

What if I had Nim be a spirit or even some type of yoki that Cinders (the new name I've given to Dust Sans) accidentally interacts with. Like one night while working on trying to communicate with the spirits he manages to some how find Nim's spirit.

So if this idea doesn't go that far it would be an interesting interaction between the two. Like even something as simple as Cinders staring at the spirit or yoki of Nim as she stares at him or at Nightmare... or maybe Cinders sees them hanging around Nightmare after one of his sessions.

Idea 13

Since I'm having it to where Xrisk isn't much of a fighter. Maybe during one of their training days (since Gash would want them to learn how to defend themselves) that Xara pretends to be them so they can get out of training. Or at the very least tries to.

Idea 14

Killer liking to sneak out and go for late night rides. Exploring moon lit areas and looking for cats. Gathering more and more to add to his adorable cat army.

... I can't help myself XD

Killer grinning. "Look at this kitten I found~"

Cross silently staring. "That's cat number 38... The army grows."

Cinders raised a brow. "Cross you forgot that like 2 of the cats are pregnant right?"

Cross glances at Cinders. "... the army continues to grow."

... Okay this idea is gonna be canon cause it's just funny XD

Idea 15

I'm thinking of maybe playing around with Nightmare and more of his emotional side. With him so closed off and everything, he others don't really see much emotion from him.

Since Nightmare was taken from his home and life at a very young age there isn't much about it that he remembers. So sometimes he may have moments where something brings up those old memories. Getting him to just forget everything around him and try to figure out why this random thing reminds him of something that he can't at all remember.

Idea 16

One of the few friends within the X-Empire walls that Nightmare's kind of made is with Core. The small child always going to Nightmare to talk about stories they've heard about the empire and just be a little trouble maker.

Idea 17

Slash having his own little secret garden or maybe have him secretly be a collector of something.

Idea 18

Been thinking about some ideas for the guards. Aside from like routes and stuff they do. But some of the relationships and interactions some of them have with others.

Idea 19

With their being other empires around the X-Empire. I'm wondering how I want all their relations to be. Who's an enemy who's an allie... maybe work on a map? Will probably have to take a picture of Japan and figure that out later.

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sokumotanaka · 4 months ago

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I've seen endless takes on the "Who should be possessed by Ozma?" Discussion but personally if I'm being honest, besides kinda pointing them in the right directions what does he offer the story besides more character bloat? I've already made the argument that Jaune/Ren/Nora+ Maria aren't needed past volume 6 (Maria barely even teaches her anything besides 'life is precious') which she learned after seeing Pyrrha evaporated.

Personally I think the easiest way to deal with the Ozma compass that exist to tell them to take the relics and gather them all in one place is two ways on just him possessing a brown kid. Oh I'm sorry "reincarnating"

Actual reincarnation with a cavity

Archive Ozpin

Hear me out on these.

Number 1 is long and detailed so we're gonna get 2 out of the way and move on to imo the more interesting one.

Number 2. Is that when Ozpin is about to die maybe say he has a device in his office he presses while Cinder's about to stab him in the chest, Cinder would ask him what he did, thinking it's a bomb or a way to contact someone but what Ozpin did as upload a whole archive of plans, directions and information on Salem from decades of his life- (You could even make it an AI ozpin that would just do things without the input of the cast, making him seem like more of a shady ass.)

Onto the nearest scroll aligned with his school, in a better world this would also be a better written Pyrrha that we would care about so when she dies in the fight, we see Ozpin's archive loaded into her scroll. Ozpin would smile and die, the rest of the buck as been passed down to the 'invincible girl' While Ozpin would reincarnate into a child somewhere that would be useless to the story so this is fine. Fast forwards to Ruby, she looses her scroll in the fall, maybe while dangling from that airship. And when Qrow finds her assumes Pyrrha's scroll is hers, AI oz would unlock it for her as well.

Now here's a double whammy of pain because we can also get tons of messages, recordings, video diaries from Pyrrha that can talk about team RWBY and her team and family etc. Adding on a layer of heartbreak for the characters- and a layer of mistrust as AI Oz might even had fabricated some of those messages to force the cast on, to spur them on. And no matter if they ditch the scroll, he hacks his way onto the whole crew's a "necessary evil" he'd call it. Then not of value is lost in this rendition. Bonus points if he finds a body in Atlas and starts throwing things into motion himself, things that are kinda shitty- AI oz isn't exactly Oz himself but also understands the danger of Salem and will do whatever it takes to stop her.

That I believe is better than making Oscar Ozpin and WAY better than making someone like Jaune possessed by him, like the side character needs more importance.

Now back to number 1. Ozpin can reincarnate but with a special god related caveat- part of me see why Miles despite not knowing what the hell reincarnation actually is, why they went with possession and called it that....because they're stupid. But also, babies...take a while to age, and bringing one on a journey would probably rightfully not fly well with many people.

So my solution would be that we'd...get an Ozpin special, Ozpin would be reborn in a kid named Oscar, a family of faunus farmers (I'm passionate about this considering the last time M/K made him a dark skinned POC, a real black person, he was an alcoholic! Fuck off, then later in life we'd learn they ran out their only black employee too, these racist assholes should never write again!) Anyway; Ozpin has never had a say on faunus racism and has been alive longer than the faunus existed- and frankly has ignored the suffering they've went through. So putting him in the faunus's shoes could help him see this perspective and close alot of doors they'll have to think around.

I love the idea of Ozpin trying to access his wealth, status, etc that could solve problems instantly and having to now plan around his privileged because it's now out of reach and unavailable to him. But yeah back to it- My Caveat also adds to Ozpin's person-hood and the world itself: Ozpin would be born as this farm boy possum faunus, that would as soon as he's born, have all this knowledge, muscle memory and so on from his past life, and we'd see this family watching him grow, they had him a week and he's flipping and catching falling things like a ninja, two weeks and he's 10 already and is training in the yard, and finally he stops at a young 26- the gods made it so that he'd age to peek condition within a month.

And while the mother is confused, she still loves her son, the father on the other hand thinks he's a demon, something must be wrong with him, wants him gone. And Ozpin agrees, he thanks them and leaves, and the mother is saddened by the loss- secretly so is the father- he just is trying to protect his wife. He still looks as Ozpin ans sees his wife's smile, her eyes, the little mannerisms, he still helped raise young Oscar. But he's confused and scared; And the wife misses her son, the person she loves with all her heart her family. "You'll always have a home here! Please, I don't know why you have to leave but come back soon!"

Ozpin realizes this at this moment: Despite being constantly reborn, that these people care about this body, even his body is fighting back tears, he doesn't know why. And as the volumes would go on; we'd see Ozpin write them as he stays in one or another location- and now you care about Ozpin/Oscar because someone else cares as well. And yes he'd help unlock Jaune's stupid power, and teach Ruby some minor abilities with sliver eyes and point her towards Maria (Maria will not just pop up out of nowhere like in canon where she looked back at ruby like she knew but didn't and just....was the only passenger to follow and stay at the back of the train...) She's an active member of the plot that Ozpin knows.

But that's what I'd do if I had to change the Ozpin/Oscar bs. If you got through the whole thing, thanks for reading this BS, and lemme know your thought in the comment below.

#rwde #rwby criticism

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unbroken-wings-au · 3 months ago

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Unbroken Wings Volume 3 Excerpt: The Fall of Beacon

Hey there everyone! First time posting here on Tumblr, taking a big leap for myself with this! So! I've been toying with a bunch of ideas, been putting together a plan to write a big AU rewrite for RWBY, with special emphasis on the Ladybug ship, and a secondary romance subplot of Freezerburn. There's no Freezerburn in this excerpt, but, I thought I'd share this as a preview of what I have on offer. This is an excerpt from the end of Volume 3 in my fanfic, from the moment that, in my mind, inspired my entire AU. Weirdly, I haven't seen anyone taking this approach to the Fall of Beacon yet, though, maybe I'm not looking hard enough, I dunno, aaaanything's possible. While I'd love feedback, if you don't mind just keep it to just giving your thoughts? Criticism is all well and good, but I've gone over this excerpt dozens of times, I'm aware some mistakes still exist in this, some misspellings, possible places where the grammar is shoddy and so on... I'm mostly sharing this as a way to gauge interest. SO, after you read, please, feel free to say something, if you feel the need! I'd love to know what you think! Transparency's sake: This is going to be an incredibly long-term project for me. It's my first fanfic, I've set a goal that is PROBABLY akin to Icarus flying too close to the sun, but I want to give things my best shot. I'll share updates and more stuff relating to my fic here as I can. Anyways, onward to the excerpt. I do hope you'll enjoy! ---<>------------------<>------------------<>---

Ruby couldn't believe it. She simply couldn't… but it'd happened, right there, right in front of her, on the screen. Penny and Pyrrha's match had ended heartbreakingly for Ruby. The moment she'd heard WHO was matched up against each other, Ruby had a look of horror on her face, stark enough Blake had asked her what was wrong, only to get no response, besides Ruby breathing hard, fast, eyes filled with panic as she stared at the screen… as she watched Penny get torn apart by the wires of her swords when Pyrrha sent out a wave of her semblance.

Once it happened, on screen, everyone, everyone had let out shocked, startled gasps, Blake had stared, mouth agape for a moment… before a pained squeak and whimper escaped Ruby. Right then and there Ruby was falling apart. She had just watched one of her friends, essentially, die, right there on screen. And because Ruby was resting after her tournament injury… All she could do was watch it happen.

And it broke her, in the moment.

When Blake realized what was about to happen, she quickly grabbed ruby's shoulders, guiding her close, her head into her chest, letting Ruby break down against her, lean against her, supporting her, recognizing instantly that this has struck DEEP for Ruby… and for a moment, Blake felt entirely helpless. There was only so much she could do for Ruby, and that pained her so deeply.

As Ruby sobs openly into Blake's chest, held close by the quiet faunus, the screen goes blood red, the icon of a Black Queen chess piece dominating the center of the screen as Cinder's voice rings out now.

"This is not a tragedy. This was not an accident. This is what happens when you hand over your trust, your safety, your children, to men who claim to be our guardians but are in reality nothing more than men. Our academies' headmasters wield more power than most armies, and one was audacious enough to control both."

Ruby's sobs still go strong, grief pouring from her, but they're so quiet in comparison to the broadcast now dominating the airwaves, now blasting out, not just across Beacon, not just across Vale, but across the entire world.

"They cling to this power in the name of peace, and yet, what do we have here? One nation's attempt at a synthetic army mercilessly torn apart by another's star pupil. What need would Atlas have for a soldier disguised as an innocent little girl? I don't think the Grimm can tell the difference. And what, I ask you, is Ozpin teaching his students? First, a dismemberment, now this? Huntsmen and Huntresses should carry themselves with honor and mercy, yet I have witnessed neither."

Ruby begins to sob through grit teeth. Even through it all, she's registering CInder's words, unable to block them out. And to make it worse she swears she recognizes that voice of Cinder's… How had she not seen it sooner? How had she not realized? How could she have been so stupid?! Ruby clings hard against the fabric of Blake's outfit, desperate to keep her close, even as Blake tries to rub soothing strokes up and down Ruby's back. To her credit they were nice… they were helping, just a little…. but not enough to quell it.

"Perhaps Ozpin felt as though defeating Atlas in the tournament would help people forget his colossal failure to protect Vale when the Grimm invaded its streets. Or perhaps this was his message to the tyrannical dictator that has occupied an unsuspecting kingdom with armed forces. Honestly, I haven't the slightest clue as to who is right and who is wrong, but I know that the existence of peace is fragile, and the leaders of our kingdoms conduct their business with iron gloves. As someone who hails from Mistral, I can assure you the situation there is… equally undesirable."

There a pause, a beat, a shift in the atmosphere, the collective sense of dread throughout the atmosphere making the very air feel heavy, dense, making breathing feel just that little bit more difficult. Blake's arms squeeze tighter around Ruby, protectively, her hands having the faintest trembling in them.

"Our kingdoms are at the brink of war, yet we, the citizens, are left in the dark. So, I ask you, when the first shots are fired, who do you think you can trust?"

And just like that, the atmosphere of dread practically skyrockets, doubling in an instant. The air feels thick with dread, fear, terror, grief, and other negative emotions, the air an invisible miasma that anyone who knew better would already be preparing for. Provided the spectacle just put on didn't distract them so terribly so.

And then… the sirens start. Distant, at first, but soon the wail of the raid sirens are all-encompassing… an announcement goes out across the PA, both from Amity Stadium, floating above Beacon, and the PA system across the campus, alerting everyone to a Grimm assault.

Threat level 9.

It didn't take long for things to spiral, to go so far beyond control that it was horrifying. Even as things fell apart around them, Blake held Ruby, clutching her close, whispering into her ear to try and help her calm down, doing everything she could for Ruby. By the time Ruby's calmed, and the two are able to get up, to move, to try and look for any opening, the festival ground upon Beacon plateau are awash in the orange-gold light of multiple fires, the sight of Beowulfs and Ursae rampaging throughout the grounds… the sight of Bullheads soaring overhead towards Beacon.

Blake holds onto Ruby's arm tightly, pulling out her Scroll, calling Weiss.

"Weiss, are you alright?" Blake asks when Weiss picks up. When Weiss responds, it sounds like she's running, her voice having a little bounce every other word.

"I'm fine, I'm okay." Weiss responds, quick and calm, though… not entirely calm. This had all startled Weiss, clearly. "You two should call your weapons. Grimm and White Fang are everywhere!" Blake's eyes widen.

"The White Fang is here?!" Blake questions incredulously. before Weiss can answer the sound of gunfire cracks repeatedly from Weiss's end, and then the signal goes dead.

"Weiss… Weiss?!" Ruby calls into Blake's scroll frantically… prompting Blake to quickly snap her Scroll shut, pulling Ruby into a gentle hug, shushing her as soothingly as possible.

"Weiss can handle herself, Ruby. Just have faith in her. Yang's number is… greyed out for some reason but I'm sure she's fine too. Come on, we need to do what we can." Blake says softly to Ruby, opening her scroll up, punching in a code to call in her locker… which, after a moment, rockets in, and lands, ripping up dirt to embed itself, before opening, revealing gambol Shroud.

"Right… Right. Let's get to the docks then. The White Fang need to be pushed out, and the Grimm need to be taken care of." Ruby pulls out her own scroll calling her own locker out.

Blake was moving like she had trained to for years, her skills honed like the edge of her Gambol Shroud. She'd linked up with Weiss, and was helping her fight off both Grimm and White Fang. She had no idea what had happened to Ruby -- the girl had rushed off to save some civilians, and then Blake hadn't seen her since. She was worried. Ruby may be capable, she may be team leader, but she was still practically a kid. And even beyond that, Blake was personally worried.

She knew she had to keep control over the situation, however. She kept herself focused. Grimm, White Fang, rouge Atlesian Robots -- something had happened, the robots were even firing on Atlesian soldiers. It was sheer, utter chaos.

There's a dull THUMP, drawing Weiss and Blake's attention. As a Bullhead plummets towards the ground, an Alpha Beowulf jumps out, landing on Beacon Grounds near the Cafeteria. All it takes is one look shared between Blake and Weiss for the two to understand what the other was thinking, before Blake starts running off in that direction.

As Blake makes her way over, she spots the Alpha climbing up the side of the Cafeteria building… the building that, while built of stone, was burning inside, so many of the tables destroyed and burning.

And then Blake sees him. HIM.

"A-Adam..?"

His masked visage locks gazes with her, a sickening smirk crossing his face, a look that sends a chill of dread rocketing up and down Blake's spine. As Adam speaks… His words are disturbingly genuine, yet have an almost mocking, condescending tone to them.

"Hello, my darling."

Ruby was running towards the Cafeteria… that was the direction that Weiss said that Blake went. Ruby was worried. She hadn't seen Blake at all since they got split up. She hadn't seen Yang around at all yet either… she was just as worried there. The Atlesian robots had gone dead, now it was just White Fang and Grimm attacking.

"Blake?" Ruby calls, worry in her voice as she swipes her scythe across the belly of a Beowulf, before firing into it, causing it to dissolve right in front of her as she calls out again. "Blaaaaake?!"

She stands near the burning cafeteria, in full view of the two inside.

Blake was terrified, in this moment, she felt helpless… She hoped Ruby was safe. Or at least as safe as she could be. She didn't want Ruby to be hurt… especially not by him.

"I never wanted this! I wanted peace! I wanted Equality!" Blake exclaims, firing her pistol mode of Gambol Shroud towards Adam, the tall, blood-red haired bull faunus blocking each shot with his sword, causing it to glow more, the red glow of his blade, and off his mask, both sinister against the lighting of the fires.

"What you want," Adam swipes Blake's weapon away, then smacks her across the face, forcing her prone on her back. "is IMPOSSIBLE!" He only comes just shy of shouting, making Blake flinch. He kneels down over her, Wilt sheathed now. "But I understand, because all I want is you, Blake. And as I set out upon this world and deliver the justice mankind so greatly deserves, I will make it my mission to destroy everything you love." Adam stands, upon hearing a voice, outside the cafeteria.

"Blake? Blaaaaake?!"

Adam and Blake can both see Ruby, just outside… Adam smirks down to Blake, unsheathing his blade as Blake stares in Ruby's direction as the horrifying realization of what was to come dawns on her.

"Starting with her."

Adam drives his blade downward, stabbing Blake in her lower-left abdomen, eliciting a loud, pained sound a cross between a yelp and a whimper from Blake. A sound that draws Ruby's attention, that practically makes her heart stop, that practically makes her blood run cold..

Ruby stares at the source of the sound, watching as Adam pulls his blade up, sheathing it as he stares right at the scythe wielder. In a forceful, shaky tone, Ruby exclaims with sudden tears in her eyes, brandishing her scythe.

"Leave her alone!"

"N-no… Please…" In vain, Blake reaches towards Ruby, despite the girl being dozens of feet away, pleading for Ruby to show restraint, to let her take the punishment she's so earned, to be safe.

It is, however, a vain hope, as when Adam doesn't step away, Ruby rushes forward in a burst of petals and twisted cloak, rushing up and rematerializing in front of Adam in an instant, her scythe flashing outward, only just being blocked by Adam. Ruby presses her immediate advantage. She's caught Adam off guard. Ruby's strikes are measured, but frantic. Strike after strike after strike lashes out, but is blocked. He's being pushed back, but his grin is growing. all Blake can do is watch, paralyzed with fear, terror, pain, and worry.

Then, Ruby makes a critical misstep. Her scythe misses by just an inch, and it gives Adam his window. In a sudden red flash, giving Ruby a visual that will be positively seared into her mind, into Blake's mind, Adam's sword is drawn completely, a quick slash severing her right arm, a couple inches above her elbow… cutting across Ruby's chest. Adam's markings on his mask glow a sinister, evil red. Ruby feels all the breath leave her body in an instant, she freezes in place, her aura sputtering where her right arm should be. The sound of two meaty clunks and clatters impacting the floor are heard. Crescent Rose had been destroyed, cut in two.

He wasn't finished though. No, Ruby had really pushed him, and Adam planned to make her pay.

Bringing his blade back around, he drives it forward, stabbing through Ruby's aura again, shattering it, stabbing Ruby in much the same place Blake had been.

"RUBY!!!" Blake screams out, forcing herself to move, reaching towards the girl as terror erupts from her.

Ruby starts to collapse… but Adam still isn't done. With an audible impact, an audible gust of air, Adam kicks Ruby in the middle hard, sending her bouncing, tumbling, skidding to a stop beside a burning pile of tables. Adam begins to slowly, menacingly walk towards her, flicking his blade to the side, flicking Ruby's blood off of it.

When Adam is just a few feet away… Blake is suddenly on her hands and knees, blocking Adam from Ruby, defending her with a pained, determined look on her face. Ruby weakly pushes herself up, eyes open wide, what looks like white flames lashing out to either side, unnoticed by Adam.

"..Why must you hurt me, Blake."

Adam swings, his blade connecting with Blake's neck separating her head from her shoulders-

Those flames lash outwards in large, glowing, silver-white wings of light

The world goes white in an instant.

Blake's shadow clone dissipates, Blake making her escape, carrying a now unconscious Ruby, leaving Adam clutching his hand over his eyes, stunned by the bright, searing flash of light.

The pain was excruciating. Blake was doing all she could to get Ruby to safety. The docks, she had to get to the docks! That was the only place she could think of that was now secure. She and Ruby needed immediate help…but she was only concerned with Ruby. She could feel Ruby's blood leaking out onto her. She'd done the best she could with Ruby's cloak, wrapping it around the stump, around what's left of Ruby's right arm. She'd torn what she could off of the ribbon attached to Gambol Shroud, and had tied it as tight as she could, using it like a tourniquet. It was the best she could do… she could replace the ribbon, if she made it… She didn't really care if she made it. Only if Ruby made it.

Stumbling onto the white stone walkway of the airship docks, Blake is surrounded quickly by concerned people -- Beacon staff, civilians, huntsmen and huntresses in training.. They quickly get to work, acting quickly as Blake collapses, and lays flat on her back, panting softly, head swimming with the pain, arms shaking. Her eyes are glued to Ruby, looking at her. Ruby had always been pale, but now she seemed ghostly. All Blake could do was clutch Ruby's remaining hand tightly, even as the others were wrapping bandages around her own injuries. Blake could feel tears building intensely around her eyes. She couldn't stop it now. She tried so hard not to but really she'd been crying ever since the first cut hit Ruby.

"I'm sorry… I'm so, so sorry… I'm sorry…"

Blake and Ruby had been transported down to Vale, the moment they were safe to move. Ruby was in surgery, doctors and medics and even Huntsmen and Huntresses all shouting out orders, working to save Ruby's life. nearby Blake was curled up in a chair. She was still weeping, still crying, so intensely worried about Ruby. She'd never cared this much about anyone before, not in this way. She was so, so scared that she'd lose Ruby. That her past would be what got Ruby killed. There's so many tubes.. so many machines. Too many. None of them should ever be hooked up to a 15 year old girl. And Blake couldn't help but blame herself. Her eyes, teary, red, were locked on ruby's form on the operating table.

Weiss was here too, she seemed to be just… horrified, in shock. Even she was in tears seeing Ruby's state, but Weiss wasn't crying the same way Blake was. Weiss's crying was quiet, only small sounds escaping her as she did her best to keep her composure.

And Yang… had only just showed up. She'd been filled in by someone else, she'd run here frantically, eyes wide. Blake couldn't register whatever Yang was saying, everything was a dull ring, everything was blending together, she was utterly focused on Ruby. The girl's breathing stopped for a moment… then suddenly

-BEEP BEEP- -BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-

"She's flatlining!" one doctor shouts,

"Get the paddles, NOW!" another shouts.

Blake feels everything in her mind shatter, in her heart shatter, even fighting through the pain she draws her knees into her chest, sobbing harder than ever before. Her guilt grows incredibly intense. She starts to blame herself even more, her mind clouding and twisting and unraveling, her heart thudding heavily in her chest, pounding so rapidly she thinks it might explode… almost wishing it might. it would be better than living without Ruby…!

"WHAT?! NO! RUBY NO!!" Yang's screams were filled with terror, with horror, with deep pain and anguish, with grief.

Weiss had clasped a hand over her mouth, shocked completely, watching in horror herself.

The paddles are brought in, quickly put to use. It takes a couple shocks, a couple attempts… but Ruby's heart is brought back into rhythm. The heartrate monitor begins to read her vitals again. Ruby's chest starts to rise and fall again. She was back. ruby was alive once more. She was surviving. She had to. She had to. She had to.

Suddenly Blake finds her already shadowed corner darkened even more, suddenly looking up as Yang's hand pressed firmly into the wall behind Blake's head. Yang looked furious. Blake couldn't tell if it was at her or… or what… and she felt herself start to shake.

"What. Happened." Comes Yang's voice, a low, dangerous growl. Blake doesn't immediately answer., prompting Yang to ram her fist into the fall, raising her voice, making Blake flinch and whimper. "WHAT HAPPENED TO HER?! WHO DID THIS TO HER?! TELL ME BLAKE!"

"I-It was Adam! It was Adam… It was… It was…" Blake squeaks out, breaking down even more, shaking, trembling under the sudden verbal assault. Yang, in the moment, seeing Blake's reaction, hesitates... but grits her teeth.

"Where are they?" She demands, pulling back from Blake, but seemingly either not noticing, or not caring about how Blake is reacting in her anger. Yang is seeing red right now, filled with a righteous fury.

"I don't know!" Blake cries, her voice cracking, shaking, voice hoarse. "They don't tell me anything, Yang! I left the White Fang! Why, how would I know?!"

Weiss, onlooking, had started to move to pull Yang back… but before she could, Blake pushes Yang back a few paces, scrambles to her feet… and runs. She flees; she leaves the room behind… she runs out from the damaged hospital. This was all her fault, she'd decided. This was her fault. Ruby was hurt. Ruby had lost her arm. Ruby had died because of her. She could only blame herself, or so she thought. Even if her heart had been restarted, Ruby had died because she had rushed in to save Blake. In the faunus's mind, it was her fault.

She couldn't stay. She has to go. She has to leave.

And so, still in tears, Blake ran…

And ran…

#rwby ladybug #rwby fanfiction #blake belladonna #rwby #ruby rose #excerpts

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apothecaryau · 4 months ago

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Apothecary AU more random ideas 3

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Idea 12

Idea 13

Idea 14

Killer liking to sneak out and go for late night rides. Exploring moon lit areas and looking for cats. Gathering more and more to add to his adorable cat army.

... I can't help myself XD

Killer grinning. "Look at this kitten I found~"

Cross silently staring. "That's cat number 38... The army grows."

Cinders raised a brow. "Cross you forgot that like 2 of the cats are pregnant right?"

Cross glances at Cinders. "... the army continues to grow."

... Okay this idea is gonna be canon cause it's just funny XD

Idea 15

I'm thinking of maybe playing around with Nightmare and more of his emotional side. With him so closed off and everything, he others don't really see much emotion from him.

Idea 16

Idea 17

Slash having his own little secret garden or maybe have him secretly be a collector of something.

Idea 18

Been thinking about some ideas for the guards. Aside from like routes and stuff they do. But some of the relationships and interactions some of them have with others.

Idea 19

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onewomancitadel · 9 months ago

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The Rhodopis background is really crazy because if it is a nested hidden twist (that I expect they would deny all knowledge of), it was hiding in plain sight the whole time. I also like it because it has plausible deniability (Strabo or Herodotus' Rhodopis?) and because Herodotus portrays her as a real historical figure, who seems to also be one of a fairytale, but also maybe real? It scratches that particular itch of "fairytales are real" thing going on (and Ozlem). To get everybody up to speed, the story follows that Rhodopis was an enslaved girl taken from Thrace to Egypt, where eventually she was freed by Charaxus, brother to Sappho, and was known for her beauty. Herodotus has a bone to pick with the idea that she built pyramids as a queen of Egypt (which seems to somewhat figure later into Strabo's version).

Herodotus also disputes that Aesop was enslaved alongside Rhodopis, which makes the Cinder and Ace-ops connection kind of weird. I always thought those of the "high" end of Atlesian society were equivalent to the "low" inasmuch as they can be (e.g. Cinder-Winter) so that's interesting if probably ultimately spurious.

Rhodopis is considered to be the earliest extant proto-Cinderella fairytale form - Herodotus' account predates Strabo by several centuries - that most of the fandom noticed must've been referenced with Rhodes in Cinder's backstory reveal, which is one thing to do for flavour and linking her to Ruby (Rhodopis means rose-faced or rosy-cheeked - though it is likely an epithet:)

She is called Rhodopis by Herodotus, but it appears clear that Sappho in her poem spoke of her under the name of Doricha. It is therefore very probable that Doricha was her real name, and that she received that of Rhodopis, which signifies the "rosy-cheeked," on account of her beauty.

but Jaune/Cinder shippers noticed a tiny little detail that Rhodopis is freed from slavery by Sappho's brother, Jaune who is brother to Sapphron whose influence is Sappho. There are two quibbles: whether Rhodopis is relevant to any of our analysis, and another is whether there is romantic love involved at all. For the latter point, I'm pretty sure the Wikipedia page used to mention the Rhodopis affair, but doesn't anymore; the above biography for Rhodopis does

While thus employed, Charaxus, the brother of the poetess Sappho, who had come to Naucratis in pursuit of gain as a merchant, fell desperately in love with the fair courtesan, and ransomed her from slavery for a large sum of money.

and so does this other account mention sources related more specifically to Sappho. At any rate:

One of the earliest historical references to Sappho deals with her, Charaxus, and Doricha (Rhodopis), and it portrays Sappho as a satirist. After telling a folkloric tale of Rhodopis erecting a pyramid by plying her trade, Herodotus tells us that she “was ransomed for a vast sum by Charaxus, a Mytilenaean … brother of Sappho the poetess … Charaxus, after ransoming Rhodopis, returned to Mytilene, and Sappho in her poetry [en meleï] thoroughly mocked [polla katekertomēse] him.” [7] LSJ defines katakertomeō as ‘rail violently’. This captures the strength of the word, with its intensifying kata-, but as Page notes, the more exact meaning is ‘mock, taunt, jeer at’. Thus, this verb, with polla added, is very strong: “Sappho mocked him violently.”

[...] Though, unfortunately, the poems in which Sappho mocked Charaxus are not extant, there are some Sapphic poems that reflect the strained relationship and contain elements of blame. In 5V, Sappho prays for her brother’s safe homecoming, and mentions his former sins, which she hopes he will atone for: “may he atone for all the things which he formerly did wrong” (ὄσσα δὲ πρ]όσθ’ ἄμβροτε πάντα λῦσα[ι). She also hopes, in line 9, that he will give her honor, which hints that he has not treated her well. This is not mocking satire, but rather moralizing blame, putting the sins of a brother in public view. Not surprisingly, Sappho seems to have attacked Doricha also. Athenaeus speaks of the courtesan, “whom fair Sappho attacked [diaballei] with her poetry … when she became the lover of Sappho’s brother, Charaxus and caused him to lose much wealth.” [10] In 15V, Sappho prays that Doricha “find you, Cypris, very harsh” (Κύ]πρι κα[ί σ]ε πι[κροτάτ]αν ἐπεύρ[οι), and that she may not boast of having made Charaxus fall in love with her again.

Emphasis mine.

I don't really know what to say, honestly. It's already weird because we're looking at history conflated with folktale and there's not a clear difference between the two; I found a book talking about fairytales in antiquity and the author even goes so far as to try to conflate the Herodotus and Strabo accounts into one story, which I don't think is the right move, but folklorists have a very different methodology from what one might expect to be applicable to antiquity. At the very least for our purposes of R/WBY and the way they have employed "allusion" to great effect, it is done for the purposes of elevating whatever idea they already had in mind, so I only think this is as relevant as you can argue Jaune and Cinder are related in some way and an Ozlem reunion/redemption etc. is even possible.

One of the reasons I found Sappho's condemnation of her brother interesting is because I think the Joan of Arc heresy angle works very well with a conceivable Jaune/Cinder romance, so you have some tonal entanglement of these ideas. I think it has to be something that's problematised in the story in the sense that nobody is expecting it (even metatextually) and it is a great transgression and risk.

The issue I keep coming back to is whether this matters or is indeed relevant. You'd be hard-pressed to deny The Little Prince's connection to Oscar, and I remember the foremost meta I read arguing for Ruby/Oscar was on account of the prince loving a rose. Many such similar arguments persisted for Blake/Yang back in the day, since Yang was introduced as Beauty and Blake as a Beast. Yet I wouldn't just put it down to those allusions, because I think they all have justifications which go beyond that, but they must be inspirational in some fashion. I have often commented on an overreliance of allusion or appeal to authority which I take great umbrage with, and would not like to be guilty myself. But I think like Blake and Yang or Ruby and Oscar, you can see how the Rhodopis connection could easily be remixed; it's not like Jaune is literally going to monetarily pay for Cinder's freedom. There are various interesting ways you could realise it that even make Rhodopis "spoiling" this possibility work. And based on the reception of my analysis, that is, virtually nobody believes me, if this does ever have any chance of happening, they'll be very surprised - even I will be, perhaps most of all.

After the incident yesterday I have had a lot on my mind. People who want a neat clear solution and a guarantee from a greater authority that they are interpreting the story the correct way are deeply insecure. I can't guarantee that they definitively "know" of Rhodopis, I can't guarantee Cinder's redemption will definitively eventuate, I can't guarantee Jaune/Cinder will happen (perhaps you've let out of a sigh of relief), I can't even guarantee we'll see what happens either way. I can only engage with a story in the best and most interesting way I can and leave the question open to you if you agree with me that there's an influence here. Rhodes? Sapphron, and Sapph(r)o(n)'s brother? Thrace and Egypt? (Mercury and Emerald, two symbolic enslavements?) Rosy-cheeked? Fucking Aesop? The mere fact this is potentially the first Cinderella? I don't know.

But if I am willing to entertain her belief, which I always am, then I think you could dispute that it is coincidental insofar as when you begin to integrate these sources into your story, eventually things are going to start crossing over in ways you can't control. Perhaps they just simply wanted LGBTQ+ representation with Sapphron and so chose a famous figure (I think this was part of it undoubtedly; I just also think it was two birds and one stone). Perhaps they did want to evoke a sense of the oldest Cinderella story in Cinder's backstory but didn't realise the full implications. If you have no real sense of what you're evoking or the fact that Sappho crosses over with Rhodopis, people can start making connections you never anticipated. "Cinderella's prince" can be anybody, the same as any other Huntsman or prince (and even Beast to some degree) in our other integrated fairytales; Sappho's brother has a specific identity. Jaune is the only brother of seven noted sisters.

In isolation I think that I could share in this doubt fully if I didn't have context for the rest of the show and the way various allusions are employed or "subverted", and especially if I weren't already given reason to be suspicious about Cinder's redemption or the Jaune/Cinder romance altogether - which itself is a pretty big claim to make, but I foreground it in Ozlem. Like I said with Raven's return, sure, she is notably linked to Summer (and then we were shown that) so revelations about her will naturally involve Raven, and allusion-wise she is Persephone, the Queen of the Underworld and who returns with spring on her heels, yet there were various reasons well beyond that - including redeeming her relationship with Qrow - that her return would make sense returning from abyssal monomyth step.

Whether this proves to be true for Rhodopis remains to be seen.

#cinder and rhodopis #otp: the rusted knight and the fall maiden #long post #the detail about courtesan/beauty is the part I kind of left out but it does kind of explain her early characterisation #and the way she has been disfigured #where I think by the trials of life she is “more” beautiful and in the silver eyes is the poison as well as the cure

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ficretus · 1 year ago

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Knightfall, another Cinderella story?

Well, this was inevitable to happen eventually. I am running out of Joan of Arc Knightfall theories, so might as well jump over to Cinderella theory. I even did Rhodopis theory before proper Cinderella one. Oh well, either way let's get to it.

CINDER ELLA:

Unless you are extremely daft, it should come as no surprise that Cinder's primary literary influence is Cinderella. If you didn't figure it out from her veryyy subtle name reference, her backstory from Volume 8 should be dead giveaway.

Although her backstory is extremely on the nose Cinderella story, I'll mostly avoid talking about it. Her backstory is basically Cinderella story with tragic ending, but it is also finished story. Cinderella doesn't get to the ball and ends up murdering everyone, the end. After the conclusion of her backstory, Cinder somehow ended up finding Salem and started a new Cinderella story.

Does this make any sense? I'd say yes, story getting repeated with different conclusion is not unheard of in RWBY. Take Ruby for example, her story is endlessly repeating Red Riding Hood story with different characters playing the role of Wolf (Beowulf from her backstory, Cinder, Hound, and probably Summer Rose later on).

Tragic conclusion of one story doesn't mean all others will be tragic as well. As seen with Ruby, she managed to fend off both Cinder and Hound, but was unable to save people "devoured" by them (in Hound's case I mean silver eyed Faunus inside of him, not Oscar). However, I find it very unlikely Ruby will always be unable to save people from Wolf, she will eventually be able to triumph. Nothing concrete, but I'd say failure in first Cinderella story doesn't mean Cinder will forever fail and have her story end up as tragedy.

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In this segment I wanted to focus on Cinder's current Cinderella story. While her backstory mostly takes elements from Grimm version of the story, current one is way more Perrault.

Roles of Evil Stepmother and Fairy Godmother are both filled by Salem. Stepmother is someone restraining Cinderella and keeping her under her thumb. Fairy Godmother on the other hand provides Cinderella with tools to fulfill her desires. Salem does both for Cinder: she gave her Grimm arm as a tool to absorb Maiden powers, but at the same time that Grimm arm serves as a leash and a way to punish Cinder. The fact Salem makes Cinder repeat the same mantra Madame did (character which is on the nose Stepmother reference) is another clear reference.

Emerald and Mercury play a role of creatures turned into Cinderella's servants. This is based on both their standings in society (one being street urchin, other being crippled orphan) and the way Cinder recruited them. Fairy Godmother sends Cinderella to find mice, rat and lizards so she can turn them into her servants just like Salem sends Cinder to find Marcus Black but she ends up recruiting Mercury instead. Cinder catches Emerald stealing and ends up recruiting her, just like Cinderella found a rat caught in a mouse trap. Emerald growing disillusioned with Cinder in episode called Midnight is also fitting considering Cinderella's servants turned back into the animals after the clock struck midnight.

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Role of stepsisters on the other hand doesn't seem that clear. Looking at Salem's faction, straightforward way would be to read Watts and Tyrian as stepsisters. Both of them heavily dislike Cinder and often mock her during their interactions. And while they are not biologically related to Salem, both of them are loyal minions that always obey her orders and follow her plans. Stark contrast to problem child Cinder who often disregards Salem's interests in favor of her own.

Reason I say it's not that clear is that they are not competition for Cinder's end goal of obtaining Maiden powers. That's why I see Pyrrha, Winter and Weiss as plausible stepsister candidates. While none of them have any connection to Salem, they are all competition in some way. Pyrrha and Winter were selected as Maiden vessels, making them not only clear obstacle to Cinder's goals, but also usurpers to what she perceives as her destiny (different to lets say Raven, who became Maiden before story even began and wasn't selected via Maiden machine).

Winter and Weiss make sense since they are siblings and also exist as a contrast to Cinder's childhood. Former were raised privileged as members of Atlas upper class, while Cinder was raised as a slave. From Cinder's perspective, they represent everything wrong with Atlas and everything she was denied as a child.

Weiss and Pyrrha only make sense in context of Jaune as Prince Charming (more on that later). If Weiss' attraction to Jaune is not just Volume 9 thing and persists further, then that groups Weiss and Pyrrha as characters that have crush on Jaune. This would make them competition to Cinder who consistently "dances" with Prince Jaune.

MANY DANCES OF FALL MAIDEN:

So Cinderella has been equipped with all the tools and followers to reach her goal, but what is her goal? Thing that annoys me when people claim Cinderella's primary motivation is Prince. It is not. In no major version of Cinderella is her primary motivation Prince, she just wants to get to the ball and have fun. Cinderella meeting Prince is consequence of her getting to the ball.

"I wish I could. I wish I could." She was not able to speak the rest, being interrupted by her tears and sobbing.

This godmother of hers, who was a fairy, said to her, "You wish that you could go to the ball; is it not so?"

"Yes," cried Cinderella, with a great sigh.

This is quote from Perrault version, no mentions of Prince anywhere.

Why does this even matter? Well it separates Cinderella's goal, that being getting to the ball and Prince. They are two different things and should be read differently as well. For Cinder her goal is getting all the Maiden powers. Prince is not Maiden powers, he/she is consequence of her quest for power.

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In RWBY, Ozpin compares fighting to dancing during Volume 2.

"If you think about it, fighting and dancing aren't so different"

So whenever Cinder fights someone, it's potentially a reference to Cinderella's dance with Prince at the ball.

Depending on story version, number of dances she has with the Prince varies. In Grimm version it's 3 dances, 2 in Perrault and 1 in Disney version. However, I'll respect older versions more here, especially since Cinder doesn't seem to follow Disney version that much. So in conclusion, she has to have multiple dances with Prince.

Prince is the one to approach Cinderella, not the other way around. He is immediately smitten with her and is obsessed by her in all major versions.

Perrault version:

The king's son led her to the most honorable seat, and afterwards took her out to dance with him. She danced so very gracefully that they all more and more admired her. A fine meal was served up, but the young prince ate not a morsel, so intently was he busied in gazing on her.

Grimm version:

He never let go of her hand, and whenever anyone else came and asked her to dance, he would say, "She is my dance partner."

She danced until evening, and then she wanted to go home. But the prince said, "I will go along and escort you,"

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So Prince in RWBY should also be someone that goes after Cinder, develops an obsession with her and fights her multiple times. Prince should also be consequence of her goal, not her primary goal.

It might be very obvious where am I going with this.. it's Jaune. Let's go over all major opponents Cinder fought throughout the story and why I think they work/don't work as Prince.

Ruby: She both works and doesn't. She works as straightforward Prince in first 3 volumes. She in thorn in Cinder's side throughout the early portion of the story, but not her primary goal. Ruby is simply consequence of Cinder's quest for power, just like dance with Prince is consequence of Cinderella coming to the ball. They even fight during Beacon Ball, which is very on the nose reference to Cinderella's dance at the ball (Cinder even has to escape before midnight). Final encounter at the end of Volume 3 once again feels as Cinderella reference, Prince encountering unmasked Cinderella just like Ruby encounters "unmasked" Cinder.

This is where things complicate and where I feel we are getting into third Cinderella story. Cinder's story reaches tragic ending at the end of Volume 3, permanently scarring her and turning her into monster. Why do I say this? Because Cinderella references seemingly reset back to the starting point, as well as Ruby/Cinder rivalry changes. Ruby is no longer consequence of Cinder's goals, she is (or at least her death is) one of her goals. They never "dance" again after this and Cinder makes sure they are never in "dancing" distance of each other. Ruby also develops very impersonal rivalry with Cinder where she looks at her as more of a nuisance she has to deal with than proper rival.

But then again, Ruby is the only character that can fulfill the role of Cinder's savior considering her silver eyes are the only thing that can free Cinder from Salem. It's bit annoying, she is Prince, then she isn't, but if Cinder is ever gonna be redeemed Ruby has to become Prince once again.

Amber: Goal, not consequence. Poor girl didn't even know they were dancing

Ozma's incarnations: They fought single time and that was mostly off screen. Doesn't feel major for me to read them as Prince Charming. Neither side seems to hold any major interest in each either. For Oscar Cinder is just another enemy, for Cinder Oscar is someone she needs to capture for Salem's interests or target to hurt Ruby.

Pyrrha: Cool fight, but not quite Prince Charming. Pyrrha goes after Cinder, but it lacks edge overall. For neither side fight is particularly personal. For Pyrrha Cinder is someone she needs to stop, for Cinder Pyrrha is just another powerful enemy in her way. It will also always remain single fight.

Raven: She is Cinder's goal as a Spring Maiden, not consequence of her actions. Raven has next to no interest in Cinder beyond her being Salem's agent.

Neo: This one actually works surprisingly well with them being partners throughout Atlas portion of the story, but I don't think it's quite there. Neo's revenge quest is consequence of Cinder's action. However, I think it lacks edge from Neo's side. Working with Cinder is simply means to an end for her until she kills Ruby.

Winter and Penny: Initially works since she fights both of them on her path to Fria, but both cease being Prince once they become Maiden.

Weiss: Almost completely impersonal from Weiss' side, poor girl just keeps getting targeted because Cinder wants to hurt someone else's feelings.

Now onto the main course.

JAUNE AS PRINCE CHARMING:

Jaune works for multiple reasons. First, he has an unhealthy obsession with her after she killed Pyrrha. He goes on a quest to find her at Haven academy similar to how Prince attempts to pursue Cinderella after every dance. This works especially well with Grimm version where Prince pursues her all the way to her home. Jaune is content with dying, as long as he can inconvenience Cinder in some way and buy his friends some time.

Prince's possessiveness also works with their Haven encounter. Jaune picks Cinder as his opponent just like Prince approaches Cinderella and picks her as his dance partner. Speaking of dance, due to their skill difference, fight ends up being almost dance like. Jaune cannot seriously challenge Cinder, while Cinder is not taking the fight seriously. Setting being open hall and all opponents being matched mostly 1v1 (Nora and Ren once again being party poopers and ignoring literary references) also add to the ball room allusion.

Needless to say, fighting Jaune is definitely not Cinder's goal. Just like dancing with Prince is consequence of Cinderella coming to the ball, fight with Jaune is consequence of Cinder's quest for power. Just like in Cinderella story, Cinder eventually has to leave, disengaging the fight.

Additionally, they end up fighting once again at the end of Volume 8. Once again, fight with Jaune is consequence of Cinder's quest for power, this time going after Penny. He is the one to engage the fight, realizing she is present after seeing her glass shards through the portal. So she appears at the ball again, he once again goes after her and she once again disengages the fight and leaves.

And unlike Ruby, from Jaune's perspective rivalry with Cinder is extremely personal. Which makes additional encounters between them almost inevitable.

SUBVERSION OR...?:

So how does this particular Cinderella story end? And thing is, I can easily see it going the way of full subversion, as in another tragic Cinderella story. Reason I tend to focus on Joan of Arc theories and references is because I feel that it's convoluted enough for me to think it's straightforward story. What's the point of going out of your way to give Cinder plenty of obscure Joan's King references post Volume 3 if the goal is to subvert them with the most expected conclusion of the story. It's hard to appreciate subversion when you don't even understand what is being subverted. Cinderella is bit different. Story is familiar to pretty much everyone and references are more clear. It's entirely possible they'll go Adam route again.

Either way, let me present two plausible endings I can see them creating. Both are of course based on end of story sequence when Prince finds Cinderella and realizes poor servant girl was the princess he was dancing all along.

One is as I said, "Adam" version. Jaune has final encounter with Cinder (probably alongside someone like Weiss), her likely being completely disgraced at that point. She starts going on unhinged Adam like rants (revealing her true self much like Cinderella shows her true self to Prince) on how she is actually the victim, bla bla bla. Jaune tries to persuade her to stop and she continues fighting him until he eventually kills her. Since Cinder's Cinderella was arch enemy to her Prince, it would make some sense for their final encounter to end up in blood. In my previous theory I stated how I find repeating Adam formula to be boring as shit, but I cannot disregard possibility of this happening as much as I heavily dislike it conceptually.

Other is more straightforward version of Cinderella story. Jaune and Cinder would have another fight, this time Jaune pushing her back significantly. This is reference to the last dance Cinderella and Prince have in the story. In Perrault version she loses track of time and has to run, losing her glass slipper. In Grimm version, while she runs she falls for the Prince's trap and loses one of her golden shoes in tar trap. Whatever version you go with, she loses her shoe to the Prince, in Grimm version due to his ingenuity. In this fight we'd see her metaphorical mask slip more and more (mask which Jaune nicked before, mask which seems to be made out of glass) showing glimpses of her true self. This is conceptually relatively similar to the fight I theorized in one of my Vacuo theories I'll link below.

This would eventually lead to non combat encounter between the two, where her mask completely slips, showing her true self. Their rivalry ending with Jaune sympathizing with her to some degree and offering her help, redeeming her.

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What are your thoughts? Feel free to comment if I missed some Cinderella and Prince references or if you have your own interpretations. That's all for today.

#cinder fall #jaune arc #rwby jaune arc #rwby cinder fall #knightfall #rwby knightfall

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angara-mfrp · 2 years ago

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Hey otherworlders! We, the mod team, decided to do something fun and silly to conclude our first year in operation. Yes, it hasn't been a full year yet, but it sure has been eventful!

This is meant to be a fun and silly recap. If you and/or your muse haven't made it on here, it probably just means they're well-behaved! Or something. We love them, so please don't feel left out!

Without further ado, here is your ADZ Wrapped!

We've had an eventful year since muses started dropping in on 4/21! There are lots of colorful personalities, that's for sure. The largest Direction was North, with 30 muses! Center was just behind it with 27. The smallest Direction was West, with only 6 muses! Maybe they decided they would rather stay home instead of falling in a lake somewhere.

Everyone has to start somewhere, and many muses are proof of that. We have 38 muses at rank 0, though 27 have hit rank 1! 17 are at rank 2, and 4 have managed to reach rank 3. Rank 4 and 5 are tied, each with 3 muses!

ADZ muses tended toward adulthood, with 73 who were 18 or older, and a mere 11 under 18.

The Paths that people took were well-trodden, with Idealist being the most popular choice. 20 muses chose this Path. The least popular were Dissenter and Tormentor, both with 0. The Advocates thank you for that!

Many muses have been busy as well. The first muse to reach rank 5 was Alear, written by Katie! Divine Dragons are a busy sort, it seems. Of course, not everyone has had such a productive time. Zagreus, written by Birb, died more than anyone else, at a grand total of 7 times! That's not even counting all of the times he got tased by Safety Team for trying to leave the Cache at rank 0.

The quickest death, however, goes to Cinder Fall, written by Hannah! Cinder died twice on her first day in ADZ, the first occurring less than an hour after her arrival. Cinder also has the record for the most time spent in jail, at 7 days!

Love found a way in the fact of adversity, too. Alear and Alcryst, written by Katie and Arcade respectively, fell in love and got (emblem) engaged. Ezra Price and Felix Hugo Fraldarius, written by Addison and Sami respectively, also found love in their time away from the battlefield. Cinder Fall and Nathrae Aoi, written by Hannah and Crea respectively, became more than just partners in crime. Now, they're partners in crime who kiss! And who could forget about the Advocate romance of Ethan Keye and Susie Winters (again written by Sami and Addison respectively), because sometimes the childhood friends to lovers pipeline requires a stop at a cult compound first. Zenos yae Galvus and Valentyne Monnawesfv. written by Solomon and Candle respectively, don't quite know what they are, even if everyone else can see it. And Julian, written by Lizard...we've lost track of what the hell is going on with that guy! And of course, who could forget the dynamic IRL couple of Emberlyn and Angelica, who have written multiple ships and brought the PtN yuri agenda to our little group! We thank you for yuri service...I mean, your service!

Speaking of variety, our member base has a wide range of interests! As of publication, we have muses from a grand total of 40 franchises, and that doesn't include the illustrious and delightful OCs everyone has brought in, nor does it account for different entries in different IPs! At the time of writing, our biggest single fandom was Final Fantasy XIV, with a grand total of 10 muses! Non-fandom OCs are a slightly bigger group, with 14 muses in total.

IC shenanigans were plentiful as well. Rat-related incidents happened, as did street brawls between Death and Heavy Weapons Guy, written by Lizard and Fish respectively. Alear's run-in with a goat named Corn was immortalized in many children's drawings, and a great many muses - Greedling (Crow), Hobie Brown (Kyuu), Paralthax (Birb), Nathrae Aoi (Crea), and Hawks (Kidi) - could often be found chilling on roofs. Ronan Muir (Addison) was arguably the first muse to drive out his neighbors after Makiko Yuuki (Cruz) could no longer handle the awful din of the cymbal monkey in his front yard. Number Five Hargreeves (Kidi) also ran into some trouble due to some minor defacing of public property. He's fine! No need for therapy at all.

And how could we leave out NPCs and other locals? The mysterious old man, AKA the Desecrator, AKA Peepaw, AKA Gerald the weirdo (thanks Erin) always draws attention when he appears, but he made the biggest splash when he killed the hierophant, sneaking into the Cache to do so. Still no word on how he did it, or who "she" is! The Advocates received plenty of love this year too, something that warms our little mod hearts.

Let's not forget the delightful critters of ADZ. We had the recent pleasure of meeting Jerry the trash croc, a delightful and scaly fellow capable of human speech. Other notable animals include Henry the corella, Fuzzysmiles the quokka, Princess Fluffyclaws the koala, Elizabeth the frilled singing lizard, and Mortimer and Bella, Vera's cats. That's not even counting the myriad of pets brought by otherworlders, from cats and dogs to guardian spirits and chocobos! Those in attendance at Seven Nights of Fright will remember the chaos resulting from Fluffyclaws and Henry ending up in the maze!

And that about does it. We've loved getting to know you all throughout the past 8 months, and we hope to continue getting to know you. You are all together silly, creative, brilliant, fun, heartfelt, and bringers of joy.

We have big plans for this coming year, and we can't wait to share them. We hope above all that we've met your expectations, and we thank you for your patience and understanding as we've learned how to mod "on the job". Really and truly, thank you, and we look forward to many more adventures in CY1024!

To close out, some silly moments.

And most importantly...

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trialbystory · 1 year ago

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SoC Behind the Scenes

Bit of preamble here, TLDR, look below the break for to see my original notes from before I started writing SoC.

At some point in the next 3-5 days I will post the final chapter of Spirt of Competition. This is the second time I've actually finished a multi-part story (arguably third if you count the FFM I did right before SoC, which'll be transplated to Ao3 starting next weekend). Last time was back in 2009, and it sucked so bad that I went back a year later and rewrote the ending. But after I posted the last chapter of that story, I thought it'd be fun to also post a picture of the original, written-by-hand-when-I-should've-been-taking-notes-for-my-Sociology-class, first draft of that final chapter.

I don't really do actual writing with pen&paper anymore, but most of my conceptual-level notes are still done hardcopy, and I thought it'd be fun to do that again. So click to see my original, hand-written notes, made between frames while playing in my dad's bowling league, back in late August/early October of 2022.

As you can see, basically my whole concern at that point was figuring out who was going to play who. I was just following the story from New Challengers beat for beat (at that point, anyway), so that kind of makes sense. But there's some interesting stuff too. Like Sienna was the running at one point to be the big bad. Or that I couldn't remember the name of P2W's token female player in Arcade Spirits. Something I think I've mentioned in comment replies is I kept going back and forth swapping Ruby & Weiss' placement. Because Weiss' family is rich and affluent like Grace's, but Ruby is a maker/engineer (my favorite characterization for her) so it makes sense for her to have made the AI and be an aspiring gameDev. And they both have reasons to have a chip on their shoulder, which would relate to the protagonist's competitive streak. But something I don't think anyone knows about is that while Cinder does line up with Domino's nihilism quite well, the actual reason she's in that spot, and therefore what ultimately made the story Frosen Steel instead of Burning Whiterose (I love FS, but Cinder honestly would've been a better fit for Jynx than Penny was. But I STILL STAND BY SASSY GOTH AESTHETIC PENNY), is that Rhodes felt like an easy answer to 'who do I use for this detective character that's related to Domino in AS?' and if you read SoC you may have noticed that Rhodes is conspicuously absent, because that character tied into what was going on with Mercury, which got cut mostly for pacing and also because at the time it would've been included I very much needed to not be writing the type of content that came up next in his sideplot. Oh, and the Seamonkies swapped back and forth on Ben and Matt not because they fit opposite characters better, but because I am MASSIVE fans of the Very Kind and Very Funny Graham Stark and Jacob Burgess, who voice Ben & Matt, and I thought Sun and Nep needed to swap to better fit their personalities.

So yeah, hope that was interesting for you. Or at least neat. See you for the grand finale later this week!

(Oh, also I really liked doing this, so I'll probably do it for future stories/fics as well. I even included the date at the top of the notes for that "If hell is forever then heaven must be a lie" DWR idea from a few nights ago in anticipation of one day sharing them)-

#rwby #arcade spirits #writing update #spirit of competition #fanfiction #frosen steel

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snicker-dooodless · 8 months ago

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🦀: How did they handle realizing they were in love? Embarrassed? Nervous? Mad?

🦋: How long did it take them to get out of the awkward early relationship stage? Have they gotten more confident around each other?

❤️‍🔥: Who tends to take the lead with showing affection?

🐱: Do they have pet names for each other, if so what are they? How does their partner feel about their pet name?

for your new selfship ofc, but once again, do include other selfships that are taking over your mind if there are any other😉

AAAAHHH EVE!!! WHEN I SAW THE NOTIFICATION I KNEW! I KNEW IT WAS YOU! I WILL KILL AND DIE FOR YOU. I don’t know if you watched transformers one yet so imma try to simplify everything without spoilers lol

🦀

Cinder, my sona, was the most “embarrassed” out of the two of them, although I would say that the word ‘embarrassed’ is kinda of an overstatement lol. Love is a feeling she never felt before in her entire life, sure, platonic love, but romantic? It’s strange and different for Cinder, so when she realizes that she like-likes Bee, she stumbles a bit but she’s not embarrassed of him, more of herself.

Bee on the other hand, isn’t embarrassed of his feelings at all. He tells her how he feels, not immediately after he gets these feelings since he got them soon after meeting her (he’s been isolated for years, leave my boy alone), but right when he gets the slightest hint that she likes him. He doesn’t even consider the fact that cinder doesn’t like him back, not in an egotistical way, but in a way with how he got so caught up in dreaming about their future together, all the dates he would take her out on, all the compliments he’d give her, how they would cuddle, he was just blissfully unaware.

🦋

If it wasn’t for Cinder, they’d get over the awkward stage in no time. The day after they start dating, Bee starts showing everyone pictures of her saying “see her? See how pretty she is? That’s my girlfriend!” And whenever Cinder did anything cool, maybe fight enemies or just give a speech, he would yell out “THATS MY GIRLFRIEND!!!” But if anything, Bee doing these things make Cinder even more awkward. She appreciates them, she really does, but actions of love, especially praise (my girl never had an ounce of praise in her life, leave her alone😭) makes her REALLY flustered, and when she’s flustered she’s a disaster. Whenever he touches her in any way her circuits heat up and she can feel her wiring twist up like butterfly’s. But exposure therapy always works, and after Bee was affection enough she got somewhat used to it and less awkward.

❤️‍🔥

you probably already assumed this with 🦋 but it’s Bee. His arms are constantly around her, compliments constantly spewing out of his mouth, there isn’t a single second where his loving gaze isn’t on her. But that doesn’t mean Cinder doesn’t show him affection, she’s not embarrassed to, it’s just that her main personality trait is awkward. Her main giving love language is definitely acts of service. She’s always and constantly doing things for him, left and right. As well as cuddling, they’re both touch starved idiots, they are cuddle bugs 100%

🐱

Bee’s nicknames for her are: Sparkles/sparks (sparks are kinda Cinders power? It’s hard to explain) sunshine, baby cakes, captain, baby, princess,

Cinder is flustered by every one of these pet names (except sparks, she just assumes that’s a defining factor for her) but especially by sparkles, princess, and baby. They’re just so loving, and Bee’s calling her all these loving names

Cinders’s pet names for him are: honey/hon, honey pie, bees knees, honey bun, pretty boy, badassatron.

whenever Cinder calls Bee the bee related pet names he giggles and kicks his feet with no shame. Same with pretty boy, although he’s more flustered with that one. Badassatron, he’s only flattered that she uses the nickname he gave himself, since no one else even thought of using it. The first time she called him it, in the voice to, he knew she was a keeper

#Self shipping #arrtsy answers #mutuals #💚that Evelyn is suspiciously tiny🐈‍⬛#Transformers one #🎇CinderBee🐝

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waheelawhisperer · 2 months ago

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Every time someone tries to claim RWBY is somehow some sort of anti-gooner paradise or doesn't sexualize its characters, I have to fight not to burst out laughing because:

Every single female member of the main two teams has had a cleavage window at some point, including the one who's been explicitly under 18 for the show's entire run. Every single one.

Three of the six mentioned above have also bared their midriffs in at least one outfit.

Yang's introduction in her trailer was leg shot leg shot leg shot ass shot boob shot before we ever saw her face or heard her speak, and then the first thing she did was try to buy alcohol as a 17-year-old and flirt with a dude much older than she is (yes, it's an act, but it's still the very first thing we see of her).

Professor Goodwitch dresses and acts like a combination of a dominatrix and a librarian for some reason (oh look another female character with a cleavage cutout).

Cinder spends three seasons trying to be as sultry and seductive as possible without literally stripping.

Weiss's boobs went up like 3 cup sizes when she got to Atlas. I'm still not sure if this was intentional or if they just used one base female model and scaled it up and down for as many characters as they could get away with.

Whatever's going on with Blake's skintight gimp suit/spy catsuit thing in Atlas.

Half the volume promotional posters/volume concept art put at least one of the main girls in a boobs-and-butt pose of some kind

Fuckin' Salem has a titty window. For some reason.

And this is just the stuff I can think of that's in the actual show itself, ignoring any supplemental material or the actions of the cast and crew, which gives us...

Barbara making jokes about Monty masturbating while animating Yang (who was 17 in universe at the time)

Miles posing on Twitter with a body pillow of Ruby and Gray Haddock, Rooster Teeth's head of animation at the time, replying with some variant of "Careful Miles, she's only 16"

Arryn and Barbara constantly sexualizing their characters and the ship between them at cons/panels etc.

Arryn and Barbara doing an OnlyFans shoot to celebrate Bumbleby becoming canon or whatever

At least one Rooster Teeth video featuring adult members of the company hitting on the RWBY girls

Miles and Kerry saying some creepy shit about Yang (for sure) and Weiss (I think) in interviews, podcast appearances, and so on

And this doesn't even get into all the gross stuff a company that named itself after a homophobic slur and built its brand on being Dudebro Incorporated for twenty years got up to that wasn't directly related to RWBY.

(When these clowns try to claim RWBY is above the evils of being horny, what they actually mean is that it doesn't play into certain fanservice tropes associated with icky Japanese anime, like ridiculous boob physics or panty shots* or whatever. It's just the racism. And hypocrisy.)

Anyone who reads my blog for more than ten seconds is probably aware that I don't actually have a problem with sex or sexuality or fanservice or whatever, but claiming RWBY is somehow fighting the good Puritanical fight against The Evil Gooners who are destroying society with their lust and loose morals or whatever is patently false.

*I'm sorry but your vaunted anti-upskirt technology does not actually stop them from aiming the camera straight up a girl's dress or choosing models and choreography where it would be needed to begin with. They still chose that. The only difference is that we see a black void instead of Weiss's panties or whatever.

Okay, Weiss's is really egregious and everyone's proportions are off, but are we really going to pretend like Yang and Pyrrha's volume 1-3 outfits weren't basically just as horny as these?

#also what the hell happened in the notes lmao #rwby

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13thalcoragent · 1 year ago

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My Stepmother and Stepsisters Do Not Pick On Me VIII

Cinder: Despite being an orphan, the Glass family has adopted me.

The Characters:

Cinder Fall-Glass – Our Heroine who was adopted

Amanda “Ama” Glass – Older Stepsister with Curly Hair

Lenalee “Lee” Glass – Older Stepsister with Straight Hair

Laura Glass – Stepmother and Madame

Rhodes “Rose” Glass – Pet Dog and Bodyguard

Amina Faye – Head Maid for the Glass Unicorn

Cinder: I thought I’d sweep the hallways since I woke up so early

Cinder: *walks pass the parlor*

From The Parlor: *noises and voices*

Cinder: Oh, are those voices in the parlor? We have a guest this early in the morning?

Male Voice: Like I said…At that time, didn’t you…take that girl in for your own convenience?

Cinder: That girl…Is he talking about me?

Laura: Even so…changing your mind after everything’s been decided is…

Cinder: *knocks on the door* Mommy? May I come in?

Laura: You may.

Cinder: Excuse…me. *walks in to find a rotund middle-aged man in a business suit*

Cinder: *hesitant* Good Morning…Sir.

Laura: *exhales slightly* Cinder. Allow me to introduce you to Amoncio Glass, my husband…and your stepfather.

Cinder: My stepfather…

Amoncio: Girl…It’s time for you to leave.

Laura: Dear, we haven’t seen each other since you left for your business trip. I am glad to see you doing well…However, why are you trying to overturn what’s already been decided?

Amoncio: At the time…I was overwhelmed with work…I now realize how irresponsible it was to just give you blanket approval on the matter of adopting this girl. For starters, there’s no way a commoner can adapt to the life of such a prominent family. Should anything happen, it’ll tarnish the Glass name.

Cinder: He’s right…If an uneducated person enters their ranks…it’ll surely embarrass the Glass Family…If my existence will prove troublesome for my sisters…surely it’d be best if I left!

Laura: What is your wish, Cinder?

Cinder: I…

Lee: *barges in with Ama* No Way!!

Cinder: Huh?

Lee: You’re probably thinking stuff like, “The Glass Family’ll be embarrassed,” or, “I’ll cause trouble for my sisters,” ain’t cha? You’re hiding your true feelings! It’s written all over your face. I can tell!!

Ama: No tears, now. There’s nothing to be sad about.

Cinder: Umm?

Lee: There’s no need to hold back to the point of crying!

Cinder: What?

Ama: You don’t have to worry about how Cinder is doing in the family, Father. We’re looking after her. Just look at how much her writing has improved.

Amoncio: I…Huh?

Amoncio: *hesitates slightly* I…I want to hear the girl’s opinion!

Ama: *whispers* You’re asking her because you know she can’t refuse if you say she’d cause trouble for us, right? You’re quite the talker for someone who’s not around, aren’t you?

Laura: Amanda, don’t be rude to your father.

Ama: Mother.

Laura: As you can see, Cinder has been diligently adapting herself to the Glass Family day by day. However, it’s true that her feelings on the matter are important. Cinder…What do you wish to do?

Cinder: I…

Cinder: There’s been a lot of things that have confused me since I arrived here…but…that ones who helped me every step of the way…

Cinder: I…want to live in this hotel! I’ll work hard on my studies, so please…

Laura: Incorrect.

Cinder: Huh? Did I get it wrong?

Laura: Cause as much trouble as you want!!!!

Cinder: Mommy?!

Laura: Troubles are inevitable when one interacts with other people…be they related by blood or not! Even so we want to stay by the ones we treasure. Now that the issue has been put to rest, I’m sure your father would still like to see his stepdaughter’s face. Please do try and come home more often, Dear.

Amoncio: But…!

Laura: Or is there some special reason why your need to drag Cinder off with you? For instance…promising one of your “business partners” that Cinder would become an indentured servant?

Lee: Indentured servant?

Ama: Oh…as in. if she promises to work for a set number of years…you can get her wages in advance?

Amoncio: No…that’s…I’ll be taking my leave now as I have business to attend to… *whispers* Girl. Even if Laura and the girls are fine with this…There may be other people who won’t look favorably on you. Come to me if things become too much to bear. I’ll be sure to find a proper place for you, where you’ll be more comfortable. *departs*

Cinder: Stepfather?

TRANSITION

Cinder: Um…Once again, I hope you’ll take care of me from now on.

Lee: Huuuh? Is that really the first thing you should be saying?

Cinder: Should I have apologized for causing them trouble first…or maybe thank them?

Cinder: Um…

Lee: You haven’t said…”Good Morning” yet!!!

Cinder: Huuuuuuh?

Lee: Have you any idea how we felt waking up to your empty bed?!

Cinder Ha…

Ama: Our Sister simply tore through the hotel in search of you.

Cinder: Ha-Wha…