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bonefall · 8 months ago

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For the cat who takes out Juniperclaw, maybe if any of Leafstar's kits are still alive besides Harrybrook (or just him idk how you characterize any of the three), perhaps one of them would go with it? Leafstar might not have liked "an eye for an eye" and she'd probably teach them it's wrong to seek revenge, but I do think one of them can be talked into it, in the name of SkyClan and Leafstar. Make it more personal when Juniperclaw is told who they are in relation to the cat he killed, making it click in his head what is about to happen.

Oooo, great idea, I GOTTA do that... hmmm. Much as I wish I could cash in another chip for Firefern, since I adore her name, it's gotta be Harrybrook.

In-canon, his character is consistently harsh and distrusting and he's got it even worse in BB. It could be like his mother is the only thing actually holding him back. If anyone is going to end up being Waspstar's "Cleaner," it absolutely has to be him.

Harrybrook: We had a good thing, you stupid son of a foxheart! We had Leafstar, we had a camp, we had everything we needed and it all ran like woodwork! You could have shut your mouth, hunted, and caught as much prey as you ever needed. It was perfect! But no! You just had to blow it up! You, and your pride and your ego! You just had to be the man! If you’d known your place, we’d all be fine right now!

A little recap of BB!Harrybrook, since it's been a while since I've mentioned him or any of his fragments;

Harrybrook is the son of Leafstar, Echosong, and Billystorm.

SkyClan does not have the Cleric's Vow.

This is because SkyClan was exiled at the beginning of the Ripple Era; before Larkstripe's Strike which resulted in the unofficial vow being codified.

it is actually a positive in their culture if their Cleric previously raised kittens. Echosong probably did have other litters in her long life.

Echosong is also alive to the current arc; Frecklewing joined with The Kin. Fidgetflake is still around, but he's probably still the "junior" Cleric of sorts.

Important point being that Harrybrook has personal stake in SkyClan's unique customs. His only surviving parent is a Cleric.

I wouldn't be surprised if this is what makes him such an effective killer. He has a knowledge of poisons and anatomy.

All cats know where the carotid artery is, they find it all the time when they put the killing bite in the wrong spot. Habr knows where else a single blow can bleed you out.

As a little kitten, he was named after Harry, who helped to save his mother.

What no one knew at the time was that Harry was being courted by an ancient monster. Sol, the God of Autumn, Change, and Tricks, wanted to play a game.

The rules were simple; Sacrifice three kits.

Sol wanted to see how far Harry, once baring the name Cinders, would go in pursuit of the power it could offer him. Sol HATES a boring vessel.

Harry JUMPED at the chance, offering two of his own kits as the last one got away. He just needed one more.

SkyClan almost tempted him into tucking his ambition away. Here, he was safe and accepted for the first time... but his desire for power won out in the end.

Sol offers immortality, the ability to mould reality like clay, the whole world could be Harry's toy.

(WIP SECTION)

In some way, Sol was able to manipulate Billystorm. I'm still working out how severe this manipulation was.

He likely got to Leafstar too. Possibly intentionally driving a wedge between them-- convincing Billystorm that SkyClan was unsafe and he'd raised the kits more than either his mate or his mate's girlfriend. He had a right to keep them safe, even if that meant taking them from everything they'd ever known.

And to Leafstar, he told her Billystorm was plotting against her. That she needed to be as firm with him as she is with the cantankerous Sharpclaw. If she's not, he might take those kittens back to his humans, and who knows what they'd do?

In any case, a fight between them causes Billystorm to leave. I'm not sure if I'm keeping Leafstar exiling him.

(Note: I don't really like how either character acts in the canon story. Or the framing. Or... anything about it really. It's bad Todd.)

In the past, I'd made it so Billy ended up trying to take the kids to his human, and then the human was the one who decided to get rid of the kits. INSTEAD it works a LOT better if Billystorm went back to his humans, and Harry then used this as a lure to get the kittens out of camp.

"Let's go visit your Ba, kittens. I know where he is. Just follow me."

While living in the town, Billystorm meets up with the child of Harry who got away, and learns that they've all been set up.

Billystorm deserves to go run save his kids and punch a God in the face I think.

DAYLIGHT WARRIOR MORE LIKE LIGHTS OUT WARRIOR! KAPOW!!

(Much as I will miss the gutpunch brutality of Billystorm realizing that his human can't be trusted. I'll just use the idea someplace else.)

(WIP SECTION END)

Stormkit was unable to be saved. There was only Firefern and Harrybrook.

Harry has been terrified of water since then. It represents everything awful that's ever happened to him.

He doesn't even like when it rains. Storms always seem to bring terrible things.

Firefern ended up dying on the journey to the Lake. I'm leaning towards changing it to infection, during the time that Echosong is missing (taking Frecklewing's arc).

Her other mother wasn't there to help her, and she died of something preventable. Something Harry knows she could have healed.

Harrybrook hates his name. I think he was too quiet about it, though, to the point where his family wasn't aware of it.

They probably figured it was overwriting Harry's memory. It's Harrybrook's name now, instead. Harry just feels like it's a reminder of being tricked.

I think at one point he should get an honor title, but I'm still working it out. He might just be keeping Harrybrook as a grim reminder.

If it's him who kills Juniperclaw, I know for a fact he'd take Waspstar's orders very seriously; "Please be discreet and professional." It's only mostly personal, you see. More importantly, this is for SkyClan.

Leafstar wouldn't have approved. But she's not here now.

He'd quietly intercept Juniperclaw as he approaches the camp, standing in his way, looking him up and down without a twinge of emotion on his face. Juniperclaw's hackles are raised immediately. He lived with SkyClan before Heartstar reformed ShadowClan-- everyone knows who Harveybrook is.

"I've- I've come to pay my respects," He says proudly, standing tall and noble. Even after that he did, he has the boldness to hold himself as a brave warrior. What he knows he did, and to who he's talking to. Harrybrook shouldn't fault him for not knowing how arrogant he comes across-- but does anyway.

"Yes, we've been expecting you," He flicks his tail and dips his head respectfully, "Right this way."

The trail doesn't lead to camp.

When Juniperclaw begins to realize that they're taking a strange path, he just waves it away as an odd feeling. It's been a while since he's been here, after all. But the tickle doesn't go away. It gets stronger and stronger, until he recognizes the northern border of what used to be ShadowClan's full range.

And that's when he halts, "Where exactly are you taking me?"

"Not any further if you don't want to," Though Harrybrook's eyes are wide like he's about to pounce on prey and his massive body is buckled low, prowling, sizing up the distance between them, his tone is soft. Like he's gently explaining something to a fellow warrior. "This would be far enough."

The ex-deputy swallows on a dry throat, frozen in place. Harrybrook relaxes his stance. Juniperclaw seems to be very good at taking orders, just like he is. He knows exactly what to do to keep this discreet and professional.

"If you'd like, we can finish the long walk. It's a place my mother used to like. It has flowers, butterflies, it's a lovely haven," He relaxes his stance, meeting Juniperclaw's terrified eyes with a calm, dutiful look.

The panic distills into a resolve. Like something clicked in his mind, and he was coming to one of those unspoken conclusions that these Forest Four cats all seem to have figured out between them. "All right. I... I think I know the haven you're talking about. We can have our fight there. There's no need to make a scene."

Harrybrook's ear flicks, but Juniperclaw doesn't see it as he brushes past him. It seems he misunderstood what this is. He thinks this is an invocation of the Right to Challenge. That this is going to be a fair fight between warriors.

It's the last mistake he ever made. But he doesn't feel a thing. Back turned to his killer, he hears the snap before he learns in StarClan that it was the sound of his own neck.

#better bones au #BB!Juniperclaw #BB!Harrybrook #Sol's Game #Squirrelflight's Horror #This is the kind of standalone scene I'd have some problems with placing in one of my reworked books #SO I'll have to think of where it goes #Honestly I'm grateful for the SkyClan stuff that seems to be coming out lately #It'll make it easier to show off all the big changes I made in BB!SkyClan

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snowglobe-system · 8 months ago

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Hi I came across this perusing warrior cats genetics tumblr and as a Genetics Guy, I may not be an Erin but I can tell you that actually all three of these offspring can make perfect sense!

Leafstar is described as a "brown and cream tabby" in the allegiances, so to make this work, I'm going to assume that means she's a torbie. Since she's got cream on her, that makes her dilute, and she's noted as brown, so it's gonna be either fawn or lilac. I'm going to say she's lilac, since fawn is often very close in colour to cream. I'm also going to assume she carries solid, since she has solid offspring. I'm also going to assume she's a mackerel (striped) tabby. So we're looking at bb XOXo dd Aa McMc. To break that down: bb makes her chocolate, XOXo makes her a tortie, dd dilutes the colour (turning chocolate into lilac and red into cream), Aa makes her a tabby, and McMc determines the type of striping, mackerel in this case.

Now Billystorm! He's described as "ginger and white". Since all reds are tabbies, I'm going to assume he's a ticked tabby, which would allow him to get away with minimal striping (only on the face, spine, legs and tail- and the legs can be covered with white). When it comes to ticked patterns, think abyssinians and somali. Since Leafstar and Billystorm have grey kittens, I'm going to assume that Billystorm is black underneath his ginger colouration, and that he carries dilute (grey is the dilute form of black). Btw, all ginger/cream (redbased) cats will have a blackbased colour (black, chocolate or cinnamon) in their genetics as well- red acts as a mask to those other colours rather than as a replacement. We can also say that he's genetically non agouti (giving a higher chance of solid offspring) since reds will show striping regardless of whether they have the gene for it or not. So we're looking at BB XOY Dd aa McMc TaTa wsw. BB = black, XOY = red (red is sex linked and attached to the X chromosome- hence why Billystorm's red gene looks differen to Leafstar's), Dd = dense carrying dilute, aa = not tabby (inconsequential because he's red), McMc = mackerel, TaTa = ticked, which covers up other tabby patterns, wsw = white spotting (below 50% coverage).

Now, finally, onto their three kits!

As mentioned, Firefern is red. She's not mentioned as a tabby, but she's going to show it anyway- so ticked tabby, to minimize striping. Since she is female, she's going to inherit an X chromosome from each parent. She gets Leafstar AND Billystorm's XO. Since she is described as ginger and not cream, she would not be dilute, getting Leafstar's d and Billystorm's D to make her dense. So she would be Bb XOXO Dd aa McMc Tata.

Harrybrook is grey. Since he's male, he only gets one X chromosome, and he will inherit it from his mother. But no issue here- Leafstar has one XO and one Xo, so Harrybrook can inherit her Xo to be XoY. Since he's not a tabby, he inherets Leafstar's recessive a and Billystorm's, and to be dilute, he gets Billystorm's recessive d as well. So: Bb XoY dd aa McMc Tata.

Stormheart is described as ginger and grey, so there are one of two routes you could take with her. Route one is saying she's a particularly warm grey and cream, and this is the simplest. As a female, she inherits an X from both parents- in this case, she gets Leafstar's Xo and Billystorm's XO, making her a tortoiseshell. Otherwise, her inheritance patterns look very similar to Firefern and Harrybrook's. Bb XOXo dd aa McMc Tata. Route two is to keep that ginger and grey description, and make her a chimera- meaning two embryos fusing in the womb. This would mean that she has two genotypes: one grey tortie (with no visible cream patches- likely covered under the showing of her second coat colour) and one red tabby, like Firefern.

And that's how you solve the Billystorm X Leafstar offpsring :3 Hope this was interesting and/or entertaining for you!

Why are two of Leafstar’s kittens gray???

Firefern makes sense, her dad is orange so she’s orange. Stormheart has cream patches like Leafstar

But??? Where?? Why are Harrybrook and Stormheart gray????? WHERE DID THE GRAY COME FROM, ERINS

ERINS EXPLAIN

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warriors-official-art · 4 years ago

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Title: After the Flood

Arc: SkyClan and the Stranger Manga

Type: Cover

Country: China

Artist: James L. Barry

Characters: Leafstar, Echosong, Firekit / Firefern, Harrykit / Harrybrook, Stormkit / Stormheart

Source: https://warriors-cats.fandom.com/ru/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%8B-%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8_%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8

#chinese

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bonefall · 22 days ago

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weird question, but in your rewrite do you keep tree’s mediator role, or do you think he’d be better suited as an educator? do you keep the mediator role at all/is the mediator skyclan exclusive?

I'm honestly considering if it's even a good idea at all.

For the record, I have totally completed designs and art for BB!Leafstar and BB!Waspstar, it's just a matter of opportunity for when I work on their profiles. With those two, I'm going to be gathering most of the big changes done to BB!SkyClan in one place; Firestar and Brokenstar rebuilding it, the Ancestor Rats, Leafstar's death by poison, Waspstar's ascent and xeir hitman Harrybrook, etc.

I'm making a lot of changes to it already, turning it into a really distinct culture and injecting everyone in it with delicious creamy character filling. It's waaaay more fun to write dialogue from actual SkyClan political entities. Unlike the Erins, I LOVE tense dialogue filled with double meanings, and the active threat of a heated argument escalating into violence.

So... is Tree's "special role" really worth salvaging?

A drama series with a character dedicated to preventing drama from happening...?

I'm sort of thinking of drastically reworking it to instead be a role about therapy. A sort of guru type character who's just really good at giving advice. Part of me wants to go even further and gut Tree, significantly scale back his resentment towards The Sisters and make him more of a "I don't agree with them on everything but that's the way they shuck their corn, the Clans aren't perfect either" type of guy.

In any case, Tree himself is totally safe. He's part of a polycule with Violetshine and Dragonfly. He's definitely not an Educator though; for some reason, my heart is just telling me he's not.

#REALLY extreme change but lately Ive been casually entertaining the idea of going buckwild and putting Twig in Sky #And Alder also. Alder going to Sky and taking his silly daughter with him #Because the family drama feels Juicy #In BB Alder is a Jessy kitten and was raised by her in twolegplace #Something feels VERY interesting about him joining TC and realizing Actually Mom Was Right This Sucks #And Bramble putting it in Spark's head that he's the only family she has who will never leave her #when really it's him who has been driving ppl away #Im also feeling like BB!Violet is gonna be a lot closer to her foster sibs than she was in canon. Puddle in particular #To the point where she still feels like Slate and Puddle are her brothers-- even if Spike and Pine didn't feel like parents #I wanna reread avos before committing tho #Better bones au

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