#Surrogacy fraud

[coochiequeens]

If someone wants a baby so badly they are willing to commit fraudulent acts that could follow the kid for life, they shouldn't have a kid in the first place.

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2024-05-06/chinas-health-body-probes-hospital-after-surrogacy-claims

HONG KONG (Reuters) - China's National Health Commission said it was investigating a hospital in the southwest megacity of Chongqing for its alleged involvement in surrogacy, which is illegal in China, after wide circulation of the issue on social media.

The incident comes after a series of official investigations last year related to the issuance of fake birth certificates at a time when China is trying to boost its birth rate.

Chongqing Angel Obstetrics and Gynaecology Hospital has been cooperating with illegal surrogacy agencies, a post on Chinese social media platform Weibo said on Sunday.

Surrogate mothers would use forged ID cards to give birth in the hospital and forged birth certificates would be made after the babies were born, according to the post, made by a user called Shangguan Zhengyi, who describes himself as a volunteer fighting child trafficking.

A team had been set up to investigate and verify the situation, the local Chongqing health committee said in a statement on its website on Sunday in response to the post.

"Once verified, it (the hospital) will be dealt with seriously in accordance with laws and regulations."

Chongqing Angel Obstetrics and Gynaecology Hospital did not immediately respond to a faxed request for comment.

The Weibo post on the hospital was one of the top trending items on Monday, drawing hundreds of comments.

"This industry always seems to have existed," said one comment by a user called Wensheng. Another user called XJ said: "This is an industrial chain, not something that can be accomplished by one person."

China said last year it would "severely crack down" on illegal activities related to the use of assisted reproductive technologies such as the buying or selling of sperm or eggs and surrogacy.

It suspended a hospital and judicial institute in Wuhan in November after they were accused of surrogacy and issuing fake paternity results.

Birth certificates are required in China for obtaining household registration and are necessary for vaccinations, medical insurance enrolment and application for a social security card.

(Reporting by Farah Master and the Beijing newsroom; editing by Lincoln Feast.)

[trexalicious]

They are getting brutalized by TMZ and our local news this morning! "They have so many charities but what do any of them do?" 🤣

[perenlop]

also in theory i do like mothpool kittens au but like. with a lot and a lot of tweaks bc the way ppl usually do it is kinda odd (making mothwing like “huge and protectice” over small cis leafpool, feeling like theyre only making moth transfem so she can be the kits bio parent, etc)

like on one hand, gay trans ppl having bio kids with gay cis people happens irl and i dont really think its transphobic in of itself to have it happen in writing (hell that happens in starfall so i cant exactly get on a high horse here) but its gotta be treated with some amount of care yknow… its a sensitive subject w a lot of trans people yknow? idk again im not saying its bad to do but i think people should at least think about it beyond “aw my gay ship can have kids”

[brf-rumortrackinganon]

What will happen in the event of a Sussex divorce? Do you see her suing for sole custody, as I feel she won’t let those little meal tickets go as they’re not only her financial support but her narcissistic supply also & has no genuine support, interest, care or love for either child

A Sussex divorce will be the battle of publicity.

Meghan will have a dossier of Harry alleging addiction, substance abuse, anger, domestic violence (seeds she's been planting since 2017), and mental health. She'll also probably have evidence of affairs or cheating too, and Harry's lack of support system in LA.

Harry/the BRF will dust off their dossier of Meghan from 2016/2017 that Fleet Street had started to leak about before the engagement called them off, with new entries alleging bullying, theft, fraud (surrogacy and tampering with the line of succession), substance abuse, mental health, debts, and anger/domestic violence (isolating and manipulation of Harry).

Meghan will have an American bulldog of a lawyer who knows how to play the PR game. Not Gloria Allred since she may be out of the game now, but someone like her. Probably whoever did Kim Kardashian's divorces. I used to think she'd get someone like Johnny Depp's team but I'm not sure anymore, since she seems to have moved away from that kind of Hollywood.

Harry will most likely have the BRF's lawyers. The same people that represented Charles when he divorced Diana (who I think is the same people that represented Paul McCartney when he divorced his second wife, Heather Mills, who appears to be similar to Meghan so they'll have that expertise going for them).

Whoever can control the public narrative around the divorce will be the one who gets kids. I think they'll both demand/sue for it, it'll get very messy, and it will be more about Harry and Meghan not the other to have the kids versus about what's in the kids' best interests.

Allegedly.

[snifflesthemouse]

Nonsense, A few things on My Mind, Etc.

Hello lovely readers! This author wishes you the very best, and this rodent has finally had a moment to catch a break. I wanted to talk about a few things I've noticed lately...

I know a lot of people don't believe Maz and Heg live at the house. I want to remind everyone that City National Bank technically owns the home, as they hold the mortgage. I would also like to remind people that the interest rate they agreed upon back in 2020 during the Pandemic was 2.48% for the first ten years, then the fixed interest rate would become variable depending upon the market for the remaining twenty years.

So, that would mean that they have an interest rate of 2.48% right now and until 2030. In 2030, the rate will go to whatever the market is. If they were smart, they'd be paying down the principal while the interest is 2.48%. After 2030, the rate can get as high as 7.48%.

City National holds the mortgage, and Alma D. Buenos was the lady who signed all paperwork.

AS THIS AUTHOR TOLD YOU ALL, back when this author shared the mortgage docs which are still on here... the Bank reserves the right to rent out the property or do whatever else they deem necessary to recoup and/or meet some or all of the debts owed. This means City National can come on Maz and Heg's property at any time and see any changes and make any changes. If they see stuff is damaged, they can bill the purchasers and demand reimbursments. Heg actually may be able to get out of financial liability due to his immigration status, but that would also mean Maz may be able to own the property.

BETCHA the property goes into Frim Fram LLC.

I wouldn't be surprised if they aren't staying there always. The bank may be renting out their home so much to make up on alleged missed payments, they have no choice.

If anyone knows if the kids are real, it would be the bank people. This author saw an article speaking about Maz having a full hysterectomy at 28. If she did, so what? People don't give a hoot if those children are surrogate children. They care they were lied to, so the rules could be bent for the King's second son is all.

If Maz came out and said she had used surrogates, even if the kids lost their spots in the LOS, she would become a Saint de Surrogacy.

And another thing... we keep getting these half-cocked business ventures done where paperwork is missing, checks are missing, signatures missing. That IS Maz's MO though. Remember how many times her registrations for the US Trade and Patent Office were rejected due to missing signatures or payments? Other times, applications entirely expiring or going dead on the search because of being abandoned.

These remind me of stories being told to daddy for money. Heg telling old Pops they'll shut up for three months if they just inject capital into this latest venture. Yet there are so many allegations of fraud surrounding Archewell.

Now if she named her secondborn after the Queen's beloved pet nickname, why Archie Harrison? Well this author has discussed this all before. Whether it was George's security code name, an anagram of the name Rachel, from her favorite comic, or whatever, does it matter? He is Prince Archie until someone can prove something.

Oh, and let this author remind everyone here reading this that if the children were made using BOTH mom and dad's zygotes, it would genetically test as MOM and DAD'S bio child. Only if there is another mother or father is there any proof of potential foul play; even then, it would only surmise infidelities. I personally feel it's odd the two haven't tried to cash in on them much more than usual.

They need a ton of cash to sustain just the mortgage, like an annual income of the mean resident of a rural state cash.

American Riviera Orchard is a ripoff of so many other companies. It's like these are all fronts and half-arsed efforts to make it look like they are using ALL of someone's money instead of just very little of it on a business.

OF COURSE ALL OF MY WRITINGS, FROM THIS POST TO EVERY SINGLE POST, ARE FOR PURE ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES. I write to entertain you all, my posts aren't even worth sharing or discussing... But I've heard they are entertaining.

Oh, and it isn't looking good politically for them come November. One already said he would do something. We will see.

It is late, and novels do not write themselves. I write without an agent or editor, but one day I pray to get signed.

I am working on several stories. Talk soon, loves!

[saintmeghanmarkle]

Trying to understand the implications if the children are anything other than 'naturally' conceived and H&M have lied about it by u/Economy_Stock137

Trying to understand the implications if the children are anything other than 'naturally' conceived and H&M have lied about it Lurking or a member since the sub was just a couple thousand. First post!I've been thinking about the things Lady C and Tom Bower have said about the children and the implications behind it. Based on what they have said, what would it mean if the children ARE genetically Hank's but not Mememe's? Donated eggs fertilized by Hank sperm and either carried by a surrogate or Mememe. As noted by others here, if it was a surrogate for Aldi, UK rules would require the gruesomes to adopt him. US surrogacy rules are different so adoption may not have been necessary for Lidl. According to the Settlement Act of 1701, an adopted child is ineligible for LOS. So if Aldi was born to a surrogate, he's out of LOS. Whether Lidl is out might depend on the surrogacy agreement.What if Aldi was born with a donated egg but carried by Mememe? In the US I'm pretty sure the child would legally belong to her and not need to be adopted. Any idea what the UK laws are on this? Then it occurred to me- if it was a donated egg and not genetically related to Mememe, would the child be considered legitimate or illegitimate? If the child born with a donated egg is not legitimate, it is also not eligible for LOS. I don't know anything about the laws in either UK or US about this. Anyone have any insight?Then the legitimacy question made me wonder- if the children are genetically Hank's but considered illegitimate because they are NOT the result of the married couple, are they still eligible to be Prince/Princess? There have been many royal bastards in the UK past and I don't think any were called Prince/Princess. These two have pulled so much crap, I don't put anything past them. So many questions, no straight answers anywhere. What do you think? Related- if they have deceived the RF over the origin or birth of either child, is it treason or fraud? post link: https://ift.tt/mf2UJiF author: Economy_Stock137 submitted: May 02, 2024 at 11:11PM via SaintMeghanMarkle on Reddit disclaimer: all views + opinions expressed by the author of this post, as well as any comments and reblogs, are solely the author's own; they do not necessarily reflect the views of the administrator of this Tumblr blog. For entertainment only.

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[coochiequeens]

Men having kids through surrogacy to fulfill selfish wants without thinking of the impact on the kids would be reduced if surrogacy agencies has a screening process

Wife returns from work one day, sees strange woman at home holding infant

Husband hires surrogate to have longed-for child, furious wife threatens divorce

By Alice Yan in Shanghai Published: 9:00am, 29 Mar 2024

A woman in China has told how her husband resorted to secret surrogacy to acquire a baby because the couple’s 29-year-old daughter refused to give him a grandchild.

The 53-year-old woman, surnamed Guo, said when she returned from work one day in September 2022, she saw a strange woman in her home holding an infant, according to Henan Television.

The stranger told Guo the child belonged to her and her husband, and she had been hired as a maid.

A shocked Guo later learned that the baby was born via surrogacy after her husband paid an agency.

The child was carried by a university student, the report said.

Guo and her husband, who live in Yiyang, Hunan province in central China, have one daughter – their only child, who told them she does not want to marry or have children.

“My husband said, ‘Your choice means I will never be a grandfather. What’s the point of raising you? Not having a baby means you are not filial, according to Chinese traditional culture’,” Guo said.

The man, whose age was not included in the report, said because the infant girl was so cute and healthy, he might ask the surrogacy institute for a boy next time.

“I flared up into a fury. I am going to divorce him,” said Guo.

The husband stole his wife’s identity card to apply for the infant’s birth certificate which states that he is her father and Guo is her mother.

“I flared up into a fury. I am going to divorce him,” said Guo.

The husband stole his wife’s identity card to apply for the infant’s birth certificate which states that he is her father and Guo is her mother.

The news report told the story of another man, aged 62, from Henan province in central China who also hired a surrogacy company without telling his family, so he could have a baby boy.

The man’s daughter said her father had wanted a son for a long time.

“After the one-child policy was abandoned, my father asked my mother to have another child for him. But my mother was nearly 50 and she did not want to have another child,” said the daughter.

She said the surrogacy company charged her father 540,000 yuan (US$75,000) and guaranteed the baby would be a boy.

Surrogacy is illegal in China. In 2023, the authorities issued a directive to crack down on the activity.

The story caused a heated discussion on mainland social media.

“I support surrogacy being illegal. Otherwise, women will just be used for their wombs,” one online observer said on Douyin.

“Maybe in the future, dating couples will need to check their DNA to see if they are siblings,” wrote another.

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[iomontecillo]

The Wind catches some of my receipts before I Enter the museum, as the female guard reacts with:”we don’t want you to lose more”. But that’s contrary to everything I’ve experienced so far, considering every formal message I communicate to the “authorities” are responded to with escalated aggression and harassment; which is in exact accordance with all the previous history connected to slavery and women. The National Museum itself describes the same story of one woman being harassed by several indivdiuals. The psychiatric records show the same plotline being told of women, and men, being chased by the locals in acts of rape...... First initiated by women.... Then finalized by men.... Followed by death of the woman... Ending with the enslavement of children. This is the exact method used by women organizing to Select persons; individuals, as targets of their gaslighting in order to “validate” intentional crime in the hopes that organized harassment Will Force the target to “play along” as “a willing victim” to factual abuse, actual planned rape and financial exploitation/theft, which is exactly what rape is: and “surrogacy”. There’s no such thing as “voluntary rape” and “voluntary sacrifice of one’s body, life and offspring resulting in the deterioration of one’s mental and physical health”. That is an obvious Lie. One Can recognize the crimes of women in the sense thatvthey’re characterized by clear indivdiual targeting while the rapists present themselves as “good, fair, cultivated and beautiful”, while the target is “evil, inferior, an outsider, a loner, an outlier, the singular discrepancy in “an otherwise perfect system””. The sociaæ fraud(s) become clear with every repetition of the lie(s) told, as it requires more lies, more involved oppressors to create a Network of abuse to hold “Gulliver” in the net. The theme is repeated throughout time: in Egypts harem conspiracy, in The Roman assassinations of military rulers and consorts, The Ottoman practice of fratricide by killing competing male heirs and wives, executions of European monarchs, Assassinations of Asian royals and even American Presidents such as Lincoln and John F. Kennedy by the crowd. https://www.instagram.com/p/Clvl0kst94b/?igshid=NGJjMDIxMWI=

[vuigardarling]

it’s also so.. misogynistic how everyone was so fucking quick to jump onto this poor woman and parade around “women can be abusers too!!!” shit. yet i’ve never seen this kind of support for a female victim of abuse.

[radfeminismes]

Ethical surrogacy cannot exist.

Buying a child obviously will never be ethical but this is a feminist blog so let's focus on women. A woman will never decide to go through pregnancy and childbirth, a 9 month process which is painful and limits your life and can be life-threatening, just because a stranger really wanted to have a baby. It's not even remotely correct to ask someone else to undergo all that just because you want a child.

If it's for a family member or friend, there's family and peer pressure. If it's for a stranger, it's obviously for money and that invalidates any consent. Those things are impossible to prove in the face of the law. Even if a particular woman individually aren't being pressured by her family or economic necessity, purely out of free will, she's going to be a very small minority. The law can't legislate for a very small minority and then open the door to fraud and human right abuses.

[saintmeghanmarkle]

Surrogate laws depending on country by u/furclempt

Surrogate laws depending on country Everyone has been talking about the “surrogate” theory and the different laws surrounding the process.Help me out here, apologies if it’s been covered. I tend to get a bee in my bonnet about the amount of poor photo conspiracies eg “this person is was replaced” and “it’s a double” theories popular on social media, or the poor photos from bad angles that have been debunked time and again (HMTLQ looking at a foal)This all weakens the credibility of the truly odd photos and behaviours we are fed, and of those who are rightly questioning the fraud/ treason we appear to be seeing clearly with our own eyes.So…to Archie…what do we really knowThe child presented in South Africa, in Canada and the USA eg the bath photos and in the book reading with TW video, ARE the same child IMHOI tend to go by ear and hairline shape, it’s often most accurate…if you find the correct anglesIf you do line photos up correctly the ears appear exactly the same s (I did this and was satisfied, I’ve deleted it but will do it again if people want a reference)I do believe this is likely HMTK’s 2nd son’s child.HOWEVER Where are the UK photos?We only have the post birth and Christening photos and videos. Which I think everyone agrees have lost authenticity, due to the odd behaviours and data questionsAre there ANY clear photos of a child of HMTK’s 2nd son in the UK…ever? I cannot think of anyDoes this therefore add credence to the phrase we saw this week about finally meeting the grandkids. Yet also lead us to ask, was the surrogate from the UK? if not, which laws are we really looking at re surrogacy….and finally, if she really ran off a few weeks after the “birth” to the Clooneys place in Italy, was she off to meet the real Archie???Anyway, that was my Sunday brain fart…have a great day everyone post link: https://ift.tt/mbph2CW author: furclempt submitted: April 07, 2024 at 01:10PM via SaintMeghanMarkle on Reddit disclaimer: all views + opinions expressed by the author of this post, as well as any comments and reblogs, are solely the author's own; they do not necessarily reflect the views of the administrator of this Tumblr blog. For entertainment only.

[aliciadelaplaya]

So what should TRF do, exactly?

Yet again there have been almost defeaning calls on SM for TRF to DO SOMETHING about the  Sussexes.  So, I’d like to address this question, maybe throw in something of a reality check.

Most people should know by now that it is not in HMTQ’s power to remove the Sussex titles.  This can only be done by an Act of Parliament, and primary legislation at that. 

This means that the “motion” has to be debated by both the House of Commons and House of Lords. 

Now, just think for a minute, a debate, in the house of commons, with all those Black Female Labour MPs banging on about removing the titles from the, supposedly, first bi-racial member of TRF. Goodness, if people thought that the Sussexes incoherent and contradictory mud slinging about “conversations” about the colour of Archie’s skin was damaging to TRF, how much worse would it be to hear elected representatives of the British people (however ignorant, biased and downright stupid) accuse TRF of racism in The Mother of Parliaments.  Now that would be seriously damaging. 

And of course The British Government has far more important things it needs to Parliamentary time for.

Also, there is some sort of notion floating around Social Media that if HMTQ asks Parliament, then it will immediately be given.  Anyone who knows anything about the hundreds of years that it has taken the UK to go from an absolute to constitutional monarchy knows damn well that a) HMTQ would never dream of asking and b) HM’s Government would in no way automatically acceed to any request made by the Sovereign. 

Some people seem to think that we live in some sort of medieaval kingdom with an all powerful Monarch. 

Yet,  there are still those who are jumping up and down, calling HMTQ and PC fit to burn because they are “Not Doing Anything”

OK, so put your money where your mouth is? 

What should they do? 

Exactly. 

Go on,

tell us. 

What would you do if one of your sons or brothers, daughters or sisters had got themselves ensnared with a dangerous narcissist? When every word of warning, every well-meant piece of advice does nothing more than drive them further into the arms of their addiction.

What would you do if their mental state before they met this person was a matter of family concern and now, far from your care, deaf to your entreaties, was publicly deteriorating to the point that they have become a world-wide laughing stock?

Tell us.  What would you do?  They are an adult, one who has not been sectioned, free to make their own choices, to lead their own life.  They are your family.  What do you do?

How exactly are you going to stop him talking about you, spreading lies and gossip?  Go on, tell us, we’re dying to know.

What would you do if your beloved family member had made it clear to you that if their spouse leaves them, they will kill themselves?  Go on, what would you do?

What would you do if you believed that anything your family did could be the cause of anger on the part of the narcissist and put your loved one in danger.  What would you do, exactly, to stop them? Please tell us.  There are a lot of people out there who would love to know.

“Cut them off” many people are crying!  But that is what we know PC has done, albeit after providing his younger son and his wife with a substantial gift to help set them up in their new lives, as per the Megxit agreement. 

Tell the truth about the surrogates?  Yes, we would all like that, we know that niether of those children were born of her body, that they are not entitled to a place in the line of succession.  Yet, however much we jump up and down and say that TRF is “public property”, the fact is, they too are still entitled to basic human rights, and one of those is privacy.  It is not for TRF to tell the truth about the surrogacies, it is not their story to tell.  It is for Harry and his wife.  One day the truth will come out, it always does.  The TRF can not be the ones to let the cat out of the bag.  They just can not.

OK, so people jump up and down saying that HMTQ and PC are showing weakness by not responding to all these attacks.  So tell us, what exactly would  you do?  Exactly, what would you have done when?

They said that you don’t own the rights to the word Royal (which is true)? When every single speech that woman made duing lockdown by Zoom has a dig at your family.  Would you respond?  How?  Exactly.

When they set up a photoshoot trampling over war graves, insulting the memories of both the US and the UK fallen?  What would you have done to stop it?  Go on, do tell?

I can’t be arsed to dig out the list of all the insults, swipes etc that these two have levelled at TRF, HMTQ, PC etc.  Geniunely because I’ve forgotten most of them, there have been so many, they have lost their currency, they have been devaluted.  Even the massive fall out from the “bombshell” whineathon with OW, was overtaken by more whinging, it’s a deluge.  How could the sitatuation have been helped if, as it was rumoured PC wanted to do, each accusation was thoroughly challenged.  Can you imagine?

How many of you own or run companies?  How many of you have had, in any shape or form had people complain to you about products or services?  How many of you have received unjustified/maliciious/ignorant complaints - 100% I would guess.  And what is the best way of dealing with these?  Do you engage and argue with every minor point, do you want to “win” the argument.  Does it make you feel better to win by beating the complainent over the head with your greater wisdom, teaching them a lesson, showing them for the stupid, ignorant people they are?  What happens if you engage?  It never bloody stops.  But if you reply thanking them profusely for the incredible amount of time they have taken to give you feedback, if you thank them for their custom, if you offer them a discount/money back.  If you ARE NICE TO THEM.  Guess what?  THEY HAVE NO WHERE TO GO!  NOWHERE. Believe me, I’ve done both and I can tell you hands down which is the most satisfying and, ultimately the most productive in the long term.

The situation is the same here, if TRF engages in any shape or form it will be playing directly into the Narcs playbook and the Sussexes will push back, it will excite them, thrill them, give them power.  It will be more fuel for their global whinging and victimhood. It will be more interminable articles in Hello and Page Six (Does anyone read these publications) Look at the few times TRF have pushed back and H has come in, all guns blazing with legal letters (and what happened to all that, we wonder).   Have you noticed that since the word got out that TRF were not going to stand by silently, the BS stories about HMTQ having zoom calls with the mythical child, buying waffle makers have stopped?

They are much more careful now when they try to bring HMTQ into their lunacy.

“Love me, hate me, but NEVER ignore me” is the Narcs motto and it will be driving Harry’s wife mad that they have been completely iced and are not rising to their constant baiting.  But some of the Megxiteers are.  Effectively, the Megxiteers are doing the Sussexes work for them.  That sure is some fuel for the narc.

It makes me laugh when the MSM and SM get their knickers in a twist about the latest fuckwittery coming out of Montecito (or whever they don’t live).  They want the child to be christened in Windsor with HMTQ present.  Don’t make me larff!  That is never going to happen.  This is absolute kite flying at it’s worst.  It’s poking the bear and all these ridiculous Royal Reporters nod their  heads and make seemingly wise podcasts about the prospect of this happening (and they can do it with - mostly - straight faces), as if it was actually a possibility when I’d like to think that they, like me, believe that H and his wife have been well and truly iced, they are personas non grata. 

When the wife buggered off back to Canada after the Commonwealth service leaving her useless husband to tell more lies on his own, rather than with her at his side, I was convinced then that she will never set foot on these shores again and I stand by that view now as I did then. 

So, the latest stick with which the megxiteers have chosen to beat TRF with is that the second child is now on the website as being in the line of succession.  Yes, it is an absolute abomination, yes, it offends every fibre of my being, yes I want to expose these two evil hypocrites for this egregregious fraud that they are perpetrating on TRF and the rest of the British people.  Of course, like most of you, I want to see justice done, and I want it done NOW.  But life isn’t like that.  and just as Caesar’s wife has to be above suspision so do our (much loved) RF.  Look how we all noticed the careful wording of the Baby congrats on the birth of the second child, they know, we know, but TRF have to play a staight bat, they just have to.

While, in the SM bubble we can all get ourselves wound up, upset, angry, sure that the monarchy will fall etc etc outside, in the real world, most people don’t give a flying fuck about Harry.  He’s an idiot, an ex-royal, gone, finished.  He is not important either inside or outside TRF.

HE IS IRRELEVANT.

And, if anyone is wondering while all this stuff about book deals is coming out  now. I give you this:

The Mail on Sunday appeal - will probably run into next year The Bullying accusations - will probably run into next year. Tom Bower’s book (this is a biggy) - to be published next year?

The Sussexes are aware they are losing popularity, that is why each pronouncement is more and more ludicrous and each Hello article more and more desperate.

The Sussexes are aware they are under attack by forces outside TRF, and they are making their pre-emptive strikes at the low hanging fruit, the soft underbelly of his family. 

TRF are doing exactly the right thing.  Keep Calm, Carry On and while ignoring them won’t make them go away, it will make them look increasingly ridiculous.

This is true strength, not to rise to the bait, to carry on regardless. Remember our Queen has a strong and deeply held Christian faith, turning the other cheek is part of that, whether we like it or not.   TRF should not, under any circumstances sink to the level of Harry and his wife. 

Let’s just enjoy the H show for what it is, a mentally unstable ensnared fool doing everything he can to ensure he continues to receive the favours (sexual and otherwise) of the narcissist he married.  Because, imho, that is what it’s all about. 

Remember the engagement interview.  “I hope she loves me as much as I love her”. 

Sorry mate, that ship has sailed and nothing, nothing you can do will bring it back.

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How many people medical staff and in the US government included did he and his team bribe for five years to keep the cover up and the forged birth certificate quiet? How did a child with two identities cross the borders to Mexico and no one noticed and kept it quiet? Why haven't anyone reported that a child has two birth certificates with a forgery registred by the US government?

Hello there. Well, I am glad we are having this conversation.

“According to the Department of Health and Human Services’ Inspector General’s report in 2000 there were some 14,000 different versions of birth certificate in the US. Since no one, except possibly the US Department of State, has the expertise to authenticate all these forms, it is relatively easy to make a fake certificate.

In response the vital records community has developed the Electronic Verification of Vital Events (EVVE) system whereby government agencies, like the DMV, can query any state’s vital records system to determine if the facts of birth on a presented certificate are true. This doesn’t mean that the birth certificate itself is authentic, only that the named person was actually born when and where the certificate says.

Some certificates (like for example those from Indiana) are printed on banknote security paper with all sorts of security features (color gradients, microprinting, watermarks, intaglio printing, thermal ink) to avoid counterfeiting. (One local registrar showed me some of the features and said “if I showed you the others I would have to kill you.”) But there are many other certificates of lesser security.

The important thing to remember is that a birth certificate is proof of the facts of birth on it, not the identity of the person in possession of the certificate.”

(source Quora.)

The question then is, we already saw Brianna fake a baby bump, steal pictures from other mothers. You have to ask yourself, why? Why would a mother who is pregnant go the lengths to steal pictures from others? What motives could she have? Why did Briana post a sonogram from fertility clinic? You are asking the wrong questions. Everyone is so focused on a piece of paper, when we have more than 100 pieces of evidence suggesting that:

- Brianna was not pregnant with a child

- Louis is not the father of the child that we see in pictures, because the child resembles other family members of Brianna, Louis was not physically with the mother on the day of alleged conception, Louis has used various hints namely rbb/ sbb and other on stage acts during that time foreshadowing the situation. 

There are lots of places that you link and look at reasons why the kid is not likely to be B’s kid. Now are we saying L randomly agreed to be the donor for the surrogacy? Some people think so. 

I am just saying that it is highly unlikely B and L are the parents. 

So, what we are suspecting is that someone else was a surrogate for that kid based on all the events as they occurred. Personally, I don't keep track of the kids whereabouts because it is unethical to act as a fan pages / update account for a baby. 

I am pointing out that the ‘fraud’ of birth certificate in itself is not the crux of the issue, it is a shady situation for everyone involved. Say hypothetically they want to clear Louis from the situation and he finally has the pat test. 

Even if he does that, it would imply either that:

- he was involved with B, and she lied to him. at best he comes out looking like a bit of numpty. 

- he knew all along he was not the father as he was not involved with the mother (whoever it may be), but for mysterious reasons chose to go along with it and not spoke of the kid for several years (coincidently sold his house in LA where he could see the kid).

I don’t know what documents they travel with, say I have 2 passports one is real and one is fake which one would I cross the borders with...just saying - we simply don’t have a clue what happens behind closed doors all we can analyse is what we see in front of us. 

Considering how the people around 1d were able to quite a lot of questionable things, we have been told many times that fake babies in Hollywood are a lot more common than we could imagine, the knowledge we have of PR stunts and how they work - can you tell me after reviewing all that evidence that it is impossible that the kid’s biological parents are not L nor B?

Maybe people have reported it, we don’t know. We have to work with the information we have available. B in back in court in a few weeks and we could see some movement in that area. The whole situation has a lot of powerful players behind it. 

I would recommend you look into the Max Clifford documentary by Louis Theroux and some other resources that could shed light on how media is managed by people bts. 

“When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth"