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What are some embarrassing secrets of the OW members and what are the reactions of the kids when they inevitably find out?
Cassidy: *sitting in a chair rock documentary style* I used to say 'Blackwatch plays by its own rules' a lot. It comes up a lot in old debriefings. Even worse when I sound smug as hell in that shit. Y'know you tell yourself it was a different time but *sucks breath through teeth* yeah it does not look good.
*camera cuts to Jaime in that same rock documentary interview chair*
Jaime: When did I find out Cole is an accessory to extrajudicial murder?' I mean Vishkar had a real hard-on for anti-Overwatch propaganda--not that they needed to try super hard to make it. I knew about the Venice Incident well before I got on the Watchpoint, but y'know, one day you'll be browsing through the files yourself, you'll learn something new and you're like 'oh hey, I know that war criminal. He's making tamales tonight.'
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Samir: Uncle Niran's always telling us goofy stories from his and Satya's academy days. A lot of it was really funny stuff, like Mom's first hard-light constructs unintentionally looking really phallic or that time she accidentally set off the fire alarm or stuff like that, but usually there were at least 11 details he would include offhandedly that made you go, 'Wow. You guys were in a cult.'
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Marti: *sitting in the interview chair* The thing is, when you have an Auntie who makes it her business to know literally every shameful secret of every powerful person in the world, you get an interesting scope on things. Oh you get extremely jaded, absolutely, and then you get the hubris, and then it just kind of boils down into... a lot of people being boring, actually. And a lot of the time you just kind of end up feeling sorry for people. Auntie actually made me do a full background check on Morrison all by myself before she let me train with him. *sips drink*
Interviewer, offscreen: That's quite an ask.
Marti: *setting drink down* Obviously. He was a massive public figure so I think a major goal of hers was just delaying me training with him while I sorted through all the junk. Anyway I learned that his grandmother had the third largest Precious Moments figurine collection in Indiana, which apparently made him suffer from night terrors until age 13, and also that he spent 11 months in intensely secretive litigation following the Crisis because there's basically an entire subgenre of shoestring-budget gay porn starring an uncanny lookalike operating under the name, 'Jack Whorrison.' Turns out Auntie scrubbed pretty much every video of that from every networked hard drive in the world as a birthday gift to him in her third year after defecting. I found it in her records--no actual videos, just the algorithms she wrote to hunt them down. She gets so embarrassed when she does genuinely nice things for people.
Interviewer, offscreen: Did you ever investigate whether Jack Whorrison was another cloning attempt by Talon?
Marti: Why would they clone him for that. No, that was literally just a blonde dude.
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GUYS I JUST HAD A THOUGHT- Uhhh CW for abuse mentions here, goes a little in detail be careful and look out for your mental health.
Of course Margo’s home life isn’t confirmed, she could just have parents with a strained relationship who argue or they could just be awful parents- the latter of which I interpret more as I think on a thematic level it provides something that Spider-Man stories don’t often get, and also ties her in a way as being Miguel’s tech support girl because in the comics, Miguel has a horrible mother. I was thinking about Margo scenes and… I came to the scene where Margo chooses not to stop the Go Home Machine. On my first 3 viewings of the movie, I always interpreted it as just, Margo agreeing with Miles or being sympathetic towards him. But my brainrot can never let things be that simple so… what if Margo saw herself in a way. In this scene, Miguel is trying to CLAW into a space that should be safe and contained, where Miles is trying to escape and he’s scared. He’s really scared. And it made me think- what if here Margo saw a lot of herself in Miles here. Escaping off into being Spider-Byte in her bedroom and her parents trying to break down her door or yelling at her for locking it, which is a rather common experience, abusers trying to remove any sense of escape, safety or privacy. ( Of course not saying Miguel is an abuser here, it’s not a direct analogy and is just an emotional response of Margo’s. )
I headcanon here that Margo sees herself in Miles, a scared kid trying to escape. And in this moment, she lets him escape, he gets an opportunity that at home she doesn’t really have. Of course it’s never explored in this movie but on another note- I can see Margo being jealous or guilty of her home situation in comparison to other Spiders. Miles has loving parents, Gwen has a complex relationship with her dad but they still love each other, and Peter’s parents are dead, along with Uncle Ben. Margo on the other hand, has two living parents, there’s no mutual love, and there’s no Aunt May to save her and take care of her. She just has shitty parents and maybe she feels she has no right to complain when most of her colleagues parents are straight up dead. Just an idea- but it makes me wonder if maybe she and Miguel kind of bond over this? Being the only few Spiders on my radar that probably have/have an abusive parent(s). I think Margo is pretty smart, not that the Spiders who believe in canon aren’t, but I think Margo has logically thought about the canon. I don’t think she believes in it because she just doesn’t seem like the type of person to, but I think she had no reason to oppose it until Miles came along. The Spider Society is a safe place for her after all, and maybe it’s a place where she can bond with a parental figure in Miguel. But when Miles arrives she realizes something, maybe it’s not so safe. And maybe Miguel and the society aren’t as good as she thought them to be. Her initial betrayal of Miguel is an emotional reaction but I think further thinking cements her into joining Gwen’s side.
This kind of devolved into several Margo interpretations and headcanons- but yeah I have lots of thoughts on her. She better get more screentime next movie.
#aaronymous ramblings#spiderman#spider-man#spider man#atsv#spider man across the spider verse#across the spiderverse#margo kess#spider byte#spiderbyte#spider-byte#analysis#??? maybe idk not really a lot more headcanons#also new headcanon#margos father figure is miguel#very sillily contrasts with one of miles’ being peter b.#also establishes more miguel just being a nice gyy#like he recruits this kid and hes apprehensive at first but they actually have a lot in common and i bet during slower days margo and miguel#will just. talk and miguel will try giving her some advice#makes it all the more sad during the go home machine scene though#because margo is projecting her awful parents on the only good parental figure she has#:(#fuck accidentally made angst#cw abuse#abuse cw#tw abuse#abuse tw#abuse mention
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i finally saw across the spiderverse and i nEED TO DUMP MY THOUGHTS CAUSE I AM UNWELL
#spiderverse#atsv spoilers#sorry but im gonna be SO annoying about this movie and i need to gush about it#theres just sm to unpack#like how the wholeass movie is basically a huge coming out allegory ESPECIALLY gwen and its not even subtle about it#and trans gwen is 100% canon to me idc idc#her scene with her dad about how she hates that she can only show 'half' of herself??? GWEN I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE#im so happy she got more screentime too cause shes just such an iconic character#each moment with miles and his parents was so heartfelt and meaningful god theyre all so sweet#i was hesitant about gwen x miles going in#cause i rlly wanted them to stay platonic BUT im so board now idc their relationship brings me endless joy and they deserve eachother#miguel trying to bite someone using his huge fangs made me audibly moan#and hobie?? HOBIE?? him being such an older brother character was so good i ADORE HIM#and SPOT!!#how they turned what was a joke of a character into one of the most haunting and unearthly villains ive seen in animated movie was AMAZING#my ONLY nitpick is that i rlly wish characters like hobie pavitr and spiderbyte got more screentime??#but ofc theyll be in the next movie anyway so its fine#and the CHASE SEQUENCE#honestly i know calling something like 'peak cinema' is a meme but... IT WAS PEAK CINEMA#watching that scene is genuinely a core memory for me now im not even kidding#and rq but every line from scarlet spider had me howling i stg#this and into the spiderverse are EASILY both my fave movies ever and its not even close#last thing but the amount of detail put into miguels dumptruck alone should be enough for this movie to sweep at the oscars
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in a truly shocking turn of events, I may have already tripped on my own hubris
How do people wait till they're like 12 chapters into start posting weekly without getting overexcited and sharing the whole thing? I'm only finishing up chapter one and my gods do I wanna share it.
Only thing holding me back is the waiting list for ao3, otherwise I'd have tripped on my own hubris by now.
#listen I got excited and ended up posting everything I wrote so far#but hey I've given myself 2 weeks deadlines between chapter so realistically I should actually be fine#hopefully#maybe#sombra#overwatch#olivia colomar#sombra ow#spiderbyte#widowmaker#amelie lacroix#i love them ur honour#maybe he's born with it maybe it's adhd making him post things the second he finishes them#just kidding#it's definitely the adhd
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Anon talking about Ghostflower fans fake concern for Margo is how they are with Starling too. The double standards the Ghostflower shippers have specifically for Miles' black love interests is nuts. Starling is surviving on her own and her only family is her grandpa, the super villain Vulture, who is batshit crazy even though he does love her a lot, but Starling understandably feels she can no longer have a relationship with her grandpa because of the terrible crimes he's done and is doing and the lies he told her. Despite being on her own and dealing with her own trauma, Starling doesn't just say she cares about Miles, she shows it and has always had his back 100% even if it has meant risking her life because she loves him and he loves her. One of the many reasons Starling and Miles are so good together is because they both stand on business and are not afraid to lay everything on the line for the people they love. Starling also cares about Miles mentally and physically as Miles not just Spider-man and regularly encourages and pushes him to communicate his feelings, and ultimately convinces him to start therapy. The Ghostflower shippers response to Starling? "Oh she's so mean, she's got nothing going for her other than being a love interest, she's so unlikeable, she's so badly written." Which is false by the way. Miles and Starling have been dating for years, she is a good character who continues to be developed and people who aren't just trying to push Miles with Gwen, like Starling when they discover her, which is why the Ghostflower shippers see her as a threat. Compare Ghostflower shipper's response to Starling with their response to ATSV Gwen who has been in contact with Miles for less than a week, treats Miles like a kid, lies to him, says great things about the spider-society to him (which she did not have to do) even though she knows they view Miles as a mistake and he will feel like an outsider because he isn't part of them, doesn't take Miles' feelings on anything into consideration, agrees with letting Miles' dad die and then works with the society to help capture Miles to make it happen, launches a motorcycle at him and endangers his life, does absolutely nothing to reassure him when Miguel is yelling at him that he doesn't belong and is slamming him against the train, then tells Miles "it's for your own good", treats her band friends like shit and tries to stop Miles from saving Pavitir's captain. Gwen did not have Miles' back in ATSV even though he had hers and the other spiders' in ITSV. Spider-Gwen/Ghostflower fans response to this? "Gwen didn't know better! She's dealing with trauma! She was brainwashed! She's lonely and sad! She has NOOOBBOODDYYYYYYYY!!! She's misunderstood! She has sooo much she's going through!!! Anyway it's a love story!!! They're soulmates so he'll get over it!!! Gwen deserves happiness!!!! She's trying her best!!! You people hate Gwen and lack media literacy!!!" Again, Starling comes from a traumatic background but has always been there for Miles, yet Ghostflower/Spider-Gwen fans have zero care for Starling's struggles, but will make every excuse for Gwen. And I'm not trying to hate Gwen but her treatment of Miles was very much fucked up and the way it's dismissed by Ghostflower shippers is mad, especially because Hobie and Spiderbyte also had shit to lose going against Miguel but they still did the right thing even though they only just met Miles, they respected him with actions not just words in a way Gwen did not.
Good morning and thank you for the info-dumping ask! This Starling character sounds so cool! And I’m obsessed with her name, Starling? That is so adorable! And from what you’ve told me of her, she sounds utterly fascinating!
The way you break down not only all of Gwens behavior in ATSV but also her stans/ghostflower shippers response to it was just so spot on, truthishly. Me personally, I don’t necessarily blame her for doing less cause I do really feel for her difficult home-life situation, but I definitely acknowledge that she could have done more! And should have! She and all the other spiders are super smart, I am not! They could have figured something out! She could’ve gone to Hobie for help earlier! Or Peter! Or someone, so she could have not done everything that she did
And I never thought about how Hobie and Margo compare to her, thank you for pointing that out as well. Margo is just like Gwen in terms of how the spider society is her escape from her personal familial home life, but when faced with helping Miles at disobeying Miguel? At risking losing her safe space? Barely any hesitation! She got his ass home (not really but yk) and away from the feral vampire man trying to get him! And she barely knew him! She didn’t even really have any context to the whole canon event thing cause she wasn’t there for it. As others have said previously, she saw a Black boy in need and just helped him! As did Hobie. Love these two, need to get more obsessed with them for real, ugh! /pos
Thanks again for sending this in, it really made my morning! Have a lovely fall day, in enjoy something nice and spiced <3
#atsv#across the spiderverse#spiderman#anti ghostflower#anti gwiles#anti gwen stacy#miles morales#starling#the vulture#comics#marvel comics#margo kess#miles x margo#hobie brown#spider byte#spider punk#media critique#media criticism#media analysis#media literacy#my asks#ask answered#asks#asks open#send asks#send me asks#answered asks#ask me anything#ask#ask blog
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SINCE YALL REFUSE TO PUMP OUT THE MARGO/SPIDERBYTE FICS, I'LL JUST HAVE TA DO IT MY DAMN SELF
AND IMMA PUT PROWLERBYTE AND MARGO CHARACTER STUDY IN EM🗣️📣
AND IMMA PUT ALL THE BLACK SPIDA KIDS KICKIN BACK 🗣️📣
AND IMMA HAVE CULTURAL ACCURATE REFRENCES AND LANGUAGE 🗣️📣
AND IMMA HAVE ANGST/ HURT-COMFORT/ FLUFF/ CRACK ALL DAT
#not y'all lettin my girl fall to the waist side#AND FOR GWEN SHOES ON THE BED ASS?!#nope#margo kess#spider byte#miles morales#42 miles morales#1610 miles morales#spiderman into the spiderverse#spiderman across the spiderverse#Black girl reader#black girl writer#spiderverse fanfic
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Hey guys? Guys? Hey, how about we stop reducing Miguel to a ball of anger (and/or sexiness) and we recognise him as an individual with a terrible past, lots of guilt for his mistakes, but also Spiderman?
Spiderman is community oriented (he built a goddamn society!! For others like him to enjoy and find a belonging and help in!!), always putting himself on the path of danger and sparing other younger spiders from harm (see him telling Gwen to back off with Vulture), collaborative, and while not particularly humorous he’s incredibly patient.
He lashes out when nothing else is working, and he’s trying (in his distorted beliefs, sure) to keep things from glitching into nothingness, because that’s what he believes is best. He is an antagonist but he is not a villain.
He says it himself: “I don’t always like what I have to do.”
He is not his anger.
He is so patient with Hobie stealing his stuff and instigating. He is so patient with Peter’s rambling and brushing off and defending and Mayday’s free roaming. He is so patient with Gwen despite her disobeying direct orders. He is so patient with Miles, trying to explain things even if the teen is not supposed to be there, or meet anyone of the society (until time is right?). Aside from the desk throw, which I chalk up to frustration, he is so patient. His patience runs out not even when Miles starts running, it’s when he keeps running and refusing to listen.
He doesn’t lash out at Peter for not stalling Miles when he had the occasion to, he doesn’t yell at anybody for letting the teen slip away, doesn’t yell at Spiderbyte, who is arguably the reason why Miles’ plan went through.
If you’d be honest with yourselves, you’d realise that he’s way more patient and caring than most people would be in his situation.
He lets Gwen come along despite everything because he understand he can’t leave a kid homeless like that, and he even tells Miles when his canon event is gonna happen, maybe for closure, maybe to give him a time frame of reference for his “stay” in HQ, that I don’t know. He probably expected Miles to be more collaborative, so he gave the answers he was looking for.
Let’s not forget that his grief is still pretty new, because it’s only been a year and some months between itsv and atsv, and Peter was there when “Miguel’s” dimension collapsed, so it means it’s very very fresh, only months old. It’s normal to be biased and honestly a little fucked up from an event like that. He carries the weight of an universe’s death on his shoulders, and yet he tries everything he can before resorting to anger and violence. He tries warning, he tries blacklisting, he tries surveilling, he tries talking.
He thinks the sacrifice is necessary, and if he was objectively right in his beliefs, which I think he’s not, he’d be the one in the right.
I know it’s a joke for most, but it’s getting old honestly. I want to see Miguel’s softer sides be portrayed way way more, not only in x readers (especially because they either ooc him or make him overly sexual) and in shippy situations, but with his friends and colleagues too. Please.
He is tired and stressed and drowning in guilt, he is not an angry monster ready to lash out at anything and anyone.
He is also a huge goofy nerd with no spidey-sense nor sense of self preservation, and he lets himself be tossed around by his little holographic friend even in difficult situations.
C’mon. We can do better than whatever is happening now in the majority of this fandom.
#long post#miguel o'hara#little bit of character introspection#I could be wrong#but eh#felt the need to say it#I’m honestly terrified of posting this lmao I hope I don’t get cancelled#but the joke’s getting old guys#stop reducing characters to one single attribute + sexiness#across the spiderverse#spiderman across the spiderverse#sdentiii rambles on
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Gwiles is not a thing in their respective comics. They never dated and aren't even close friends in them. They had one crossover where Gwen kissed Miles after visiting earth-8, immediately apologized for it, said she didn't want them to feel pressured into anything, and they agreed they rather be friends. Dassit. They hadn't been in each others comics before that and haven't been in each others since. I think what's throwing is in the original atsv preview, Miles had one drawing of Gwen, and that's much more in line with how his comic character views her. He was not pressed. But they scrapped that to make it more awkward.
But Miles looking so gone on Gwen because he's mistaking unresolved trauma for deep interest in her would make sense given his age/everything he's been through/the theme of the films. And taking time to actually face/process his trauma looks like it's been setup to play a huge role in btsv.
Margo and Miles spider senses going off so specifically and having them shook also means something since the creators focus on it. The art book confirms Margo thinks Miles is cute and says she plays a bigger role than expected. Maybe just by being her confident/ brilliant/caring/funny/cute self, she helps Miles see what direct mutual attraction is like when you're talked to and treated like an equal (not a kid), don't have to constantly worry about proving your value, and aren't dealing with mixed signals. Maybe he helps her embrace the possibility of being fully present in a relationship with someone who listens to and values her, and helps her to stop isolating to avoid her trauma as well. Or maybe Miles puts the spider society behind him but he and Margo forge some other specific forever bond.
Either way, the black director knows the weight of the position he is in and is very protective of Miles, Margo and Hobie. There's often only so much we can do at times, but you can see the love for black history and culture in big/small places and interactions all throughout atsv, and places where it's a relief that a black person who cares has been present in the room to say not on my watch to things. While spiderbyte and Hobie weren't written to have a ton of screen time in atsv, every second was made the most of and they're genuinely well written/acted/drawn/animated and authentic. I also think the the writers and directors do really want to get this right, people are in for a surpise and many of the fears around btsv will be proven wrong. But given media's treatment of and white ignorance around handling black main characters, some vigilance probably doesn't hurt.
I don’t go here, so I’ll have to take your word on the comics thing
But I do think your take of Miles’ crush being a result of his trauma is plausible. Regular teen crush moments aside, the idea Miles puts so much focus onto Gwen he forgets about the others doesn’t sound like his character
But at the same time, my bar is low. We’ve had Black creators that still succumb to the stereotypes, despite all the good rep for Black stories they do. So I have to wait and see
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Spider-Man Into / Across The Spiderverse Gwen Stacy Headcanons!
Note(s): This is a complete projection on my part, if you disagree then you do you
Gwen in my head is transgender, mainly because I dislike the Gwen's Peter Parker is transgender headcanon as it's only basis is 'skinny boy is bullied so must be trans', despite the fact that every single Peter Parker was bullied and skinny before the spider bite?*
Gwen doesn't like many holidays, especially birthdays, she's just never been much of a fan because of the pressure to love and accept every gift given even if it's something she hates.
She gets along with Spiderbyte really well, they both like video games and have frequent gaming sessions even though Margo is way better than her at them.
She's not Christian but she still prays every dinner with her dad, it's just something that brings them closer together.
Sometimes when drumming Gwen gets too into her feelings, forgets she has super strength, and completely breaks the drum kit. This happens so often people think she's too destructive to be in their bands, she's unfortunately well known after a leaked video of her completely demolishing a drum set.
When she was younger she had a very promising ballet and modeling career, she was even about to get professional jobs, but then the spider bite happened and she had to quit. Sometimes, Gwen wishes she didn't, because she really enjoyed and still enjoys both of them.
Gwen hates visiting the spider HQ because most of them have lost a Gwen Stacy, she doesn't feel like herself when speaking to most Peter's and avoids a lot of them. Not only that, but she can't speak to most Peter's because she lost hers, most spiders can't relate to that, and she's only been able to bond with Miles over it.
Her dad is on the fence with Hobie, as much as he agrees that the system is corrupt, heck he even left because of how much it negatively affected his relationship with his daughter, he also feels that Hobie is too 'radical' in his beliefs. Gwen disagrees heavily and this spawns some arguments between them.
Her dad thinks Miles is great for her, him and Jefferson are sort of friends and chat over barbeque, he also has a tense friendship with Rio and they talk about Gwen a lot, for the better or worse.
Gwen really wanted to impress Miles' parents and tried to learn Spanish to do so, her pronunciation was way off and her sentences were all over the place, Rio may or may not like her less after that.
She's never had many friends besides the Spiders and Peter, so she struggles a lot with speaking to anybody's parents or functioning properly in other people's houses, she's more used to people at her house.
Peter used to stay at her place almost every night and she misses having him at her house, she always stays at Margo, Pavitr, Hobie or Miles' house, and vice versa.
She collects pins, random ones, pretty much any that look pretty. She has an 'i eat kids' one with bibble from the Barbie fairy movie on it, she wears it to family gatherings and her dad side eyes it constantly.
Gwen isn't too good at art, she's horrible at anatomy and the only reason she wants to learn is so her and Miles can spend more time together.
She really likes the taste of some spicy food, but can't handle the heat. The aftertaste is always supreme but she turns into a tomato after one bite and coughs if she eats any more.
Gwen looks up to the MJ of Peter B Parkers universe, she also likes to babysit Mayday even if it always ends in total chaos.
*I don't hate thinking Peter is trans in general, heck I think he's trans in all universes, I only have a problem when people get annoyed at the headcanon of Spider-Man Peter and in general Gwen being trans, and are only fine if it's Spider-Gwen's Peter because he's dead.
#gwen stacy#spidergwen#spider gwen#spider woman#spiderwoman#ghost spider#ghostspider#gwen stacy headcanons#ghost spider headcanons#ghostspider headcanons#spidergwen headcanons#spider gwen headcanons#spiderwoman headcanons#spider woman headcanons#across the spider verse#across the spiderverse#into the spider verse#into the spiderverse#spider verse#spiderverse#transgender
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Miguel isn't a villain. At most he's an antagonist, at the least he's a foil.
Yes he did go feral, batshit, insane even in that chase down with miles. Mfer was on all fours, screaming this kid's name, chasing him down the second he took off. Is that villainy? wicked, sure. criminal? no. That is a man hellbent on an ideal. A spiderman who had lost everything, can not face the fact that it was by his own hand, so he tries to placate it by saying that messing with canon fucks up the whole. A spiderman who fucked up, big time, and was AT FIRST trying to warn a younger spiderman to not make the same mistakes. To see his error and try to let it go.
That chase? Is the thread snapping. That choke slam, The panic in trying to get spiderbyte to stop the machine, Him clawing at the barrier? That is pent up stages of grief conforming into a ball of rage fuled by the determination to never have another world destroyed again, especially any world that could have his daughter.
No. I don't like Miguel's actions. Before the chase? I found him to be laughable, enjoyable in the sense that there is a spiderman that's basically fucking batman. His moments with Lyla, not having spidersense, his response to Hobie just in his presence? Are why I love his character, infact I appreciate that he tries to explain to Miles instead of just trapping him and putting him away with the other anomalies.
I need y'all to recognize he's definitely not the "good guy" but he's not the "bad guy" either, in the same way that gwen and peter are neither.
Miguel O'Hara, is the foil to Miles Morales.
#.。*chitchat💭━♡#miguel o'hara atsv#atsv#across the spiderverse#lemme make this clear.. i. do. not. FUCK. with this man's actions.#infact i can't fall for him because of his actions and his personality periodt.#but ong. he's not out here for blood. that's not his primary objective. he's not trying to ruin everything for miles like the spot is.
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the turning point in atsv where peter b tries to "reason" with miles and miles tells him to stop calling him a kid, which gets miles hobie's praise. but jessica tells hobie that he isn't helping and hobie only responds with "good" and then miles looks at him with this troubled expression, like he finally understands what hobie was trying to tell him from the get go. miles understands that he can fight for more than what gwen and peter b have accepted as the cost for their place in spider society, miles understands he doesn't need this illusion of power they have to be spiderman. he already IS spiderman. then when miguel ensnares miles in the trap, while everyone else pointlessly tries to reason with miguel (the man, the authority), hobie goes directly to miles and reminds him he has the power to free himself. which results in miles breaking free and dismantling the fragile semblance of order and composure that the spider society and miguel both had. then when miles is trying to go home, it's spiderbyte's choice to defy miguel directly, as peter b and gwen have repeatedly failed to do so because all they do is talk, and stand in solidarity with miles that saves him from miguel's wrath. and when miles is gone and miguel has no one to turn on but HER, that's when gwen finally realises that her place in the spider society never meant anything. that the second that she would have truly questioned miguel and his power, she was always going get the same treatment as miles. she doesn't get to talk anymore, she's given no choice in going after miles or going home. then it's HOBIE who gives her the means to rectify her mistake and to stand by miles' side, as she should have from the very beginning. THAT'S CINEMA BABYYY!!
#spiderverse#thoughts about media#this movie is a fucking MASTERPIECE#it never gets any less amazing to watch.#and I LOVE hobie so much. he is such an INCREDIBLE character.#the way he looks out for and encourages the young spiders to stand up for themselves without PUSHING them into anything???#they wrote him so beautifully.#and do Not take this post as miguel hate if you see this. I love miguel and I want him.#but A LOT of men (fictional) I want are NOT nice people. miguel is honestly better than most of them. but he is still an asshole.
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Gosh that Daegitte ask takes me back so much :000
That really ignited the thought of that small as hell kayak back in my brain. May I ask for some Daegitte stuff, mun? Maybe pertaining to the fankids in some way too? Like the duo working on/repairing the kids' tech after a mission? :0c
Dae-hyun: So we're fixing Marti's... *glances down at Ebo* crab-bot.
Brigitte: Spider-bot. And mostly we're just trying to access Ebo's memory files since Marti can't while she's unconscious. If we want to find out what happened to the rest of the team, Ebo's our best chance. *sigh*
Dae-hyun: ...I'm sorry.
Brigitte: I'm fine. I know they're fine. We know from the biofeeds that they're alive. The kids have been in much scarier scrapes than this, and they've had to go dark for missions before. I just know Marti's going to beat herself up so much for getting separated from them like this...
Dae-hyun: 'Marti's' going to beat herself up?
Brigitte: ...
Brigitte: *longer sigh* Just--You know, my dad and Ana were always going on about how this shouldn't have been mine or Fareeha's fight, and we were just so caught up in wanting to do the right thing, wanting to prove ourselves and now....
Dae-hyun: ...now you're watching a whole new bunch of kids fight, wanting to prove themselves, wanting to do the right thing.
Brigitte: When you and Hana got into the Meka program... did people try to stop you? Did people try to tell you that you were too young?
Dae-hyun: I wish more did. But I don't think really anyone was in a position to say that. Then again, if I never joined, I don't think I would have met you.
Brigitte: *smiles*
Dae-hyun: *glances back at Ebo* So, just getting a memory bank out? Shouldn't be too har-- *touches Ebo and gets knocked back several feet by an electric shock*
Brigitte: Dae-hyun!
Dae-hyun: *weakly* You let Marti handle that thing? *cough*
Brigitte: ...she built it, actually.
#daegitte#next time: brigitte drags dae-hyun (who still smells a little burnt) on a rescue mission#spiderbyte kid
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Spidey fanfic hc/quirks I really really dislike
Hobie stinks/he doesn’t wash hcs. Idk how this became a thing bc most of them come from him being homeless… like I can take 1-2 jokes but saying he has poor hygiene is just bleh. Especially when it comes to his hair bc its the yt folks with dirty locs who don’t wash their shit not blk folks.
Pav chai tea. Mf had a whole intro and all y’all can equate to him is chai tea. Talk about his hair, his workout, his girlfriend, anything else pls
Miles being really bad at Spanish. Making him a no sabo kid is cool or whatever but it’s implied that Miles knows and speaks Spanish. He just has been missing classes.
Miguel racism jokes… like him hating Miles or Hobie is funny. Him being inappropriately mean to them is funny. Him using the nword or calling them monkeys is not
Obsessive amount of dead daughter jokes. Like space them out. I don’t want to read the same dead daughter diss back to back for 5 chapters
Lack of Margo and Jess. Especially when y’all leave Jess out like bffr. The trio of Peter, Jess, and Miguel is what makes it so 😗🤌 Plus Spiderbyte 100% deserves to be in the group
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:3 Now that you're not baked, what did you think of ATSV? And who was your favorite spiderguy? I loved Miguel and his big ol honkers
I LOVED IT! Honestly I was so sad when it was over I would have happily sat and watched for another 3 hours lol. In terms of design, spider punk or hobie brown was an absolute work of art. I also loooved Margot Kess or spiderbyte, she was super cute and I liked her character a lot. However, I’d like to use Miguel’s butthole hair as dental floss. Horny outweighs design.
BUT overall Miles is the best Spider-Man he’s such a good kid
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heyy girlie (gender neutral) I’ve become way too invested into ur OC Petra and their story .. Just wanted to share some HC’s i thought of over fangirling over them <3
• Petra picks up Spanish from Miguel (Can’t decide if they learn on their own or Miguel takes the time to teach them)
• Possibly sleeps in web sometimes? or web hammock??
• Their suit also has some kind of sugar glider style fabric stretching out from under the arms that help them glide/get around. (appearing as needed)
• ^^ I’d like to think they wouldn’t use it all that much, but every once in a while they just whip it casually and everyone’s like “so they can just fly?” (Material’s sum similar to that whole cape thing Miguel had on at Gwen’a earth)
• They’re extremely in tuned with their spidey sense. Helping them stay ahead from accidental/intentional mishaps from bigger ppl. (Maybe did training/meditation to develop it over the yrs?? Karate kid type beat) Also has really good intuition in general.
• (To go with that ^^) Some individuals who become close with Petra find that their spider senses become instinctively more aware of them and keeps them from accidental mishaps.
(From here on is basically Petra and the gang bc yes to interactions with them )
• Petra becoming part of the “Team Miles” gang >> (Them practically kidnapping Petra into one of their own and making sure they feel included and etc >>>
• Like, they’re 100% in the groupchat
• The gang send all the “short friend” tiktoks in there (They pretend to be annoyed by this)
• Sleepovers >>>>>>
• Petra would melt Rio’s heart.
• Imagine the gang having dinner at Miles’s and Petra’s already pulling out their own tupperware from home. (not wanting to create a fuss or any awkwardness) and Rio just sets down a saucer in front of them with just the tiniest of tamelas all tied up perfectly and it’s just <3 (and you KNOW Rio’s sending her back home with leftovers)
• Spiderbyte has at least once or twice adjusted her avatar to be their size for Petra’s comfort. (Petra said they were fine but Margo insisted.) ((I’d like to think she’s one of their 1st close friends outside of Miguel and Jess))
• Petra offers to add bluetooth to miles suit after overhearing him complain how uncomfy airpods are under his mask. Under the condition that he shares his playlist with them.
• They falls in love Earth 1610’s (Miles’s earth) music. (I feel like this is how they hit it off??)
• Also Miles and Petra bonding over being “different” in their own ways >>>
(I could literally go on and on but i’ll just stop right here for now lol. Love this character and the backstory you’ve created. Looking forward to anything you decide to put out with them. Take care <3)
I’M… IM LITERALLY IN AWE OF THESE OMGGGGGGG I WANT TO WRITE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE ARE YOU KIDDING ME???? THANK YOU FOR SUBMITTING THESE AND I WANT TO EXPAND ON THEM OK
im literally obsessed with miles and petra bonding in that way. miles is just so nice and is like the fun-loving brother petra never had, and they both just have such a string desire to help people
miles does not look down on petra in any way. like he’s so chill they think there’s a catch but there isn’t. he’s just miles
miles is honestly in awe of petra and thinks they are SO COOL but will never admit it (gwen can tell right away)
spider byte making petra their own phone and petra is like bruh. what the hell is this thing and where has it been all my life
the “omg how are you so small” meme gets sent every day
petra is obsessed with the !! react on imessage
already loving how accepting miles’ parents would be of them in the perfect world where they know everything like. rio is SO motherly to them
petra would LOVE miles’ music so much omg. they would be a “always training to a specific playlist” typea bitch
the suit thing is SO good because i had the same thought. just making crazy jumps and gliding around
they have this weird relationship w miguel bc he saved them so they have a soft spot for each other but the way miguel sees miles is of course questionable…… so they’re in a weird middle ground
peter b. would be a menace to them of course. sort of like a love/hate relationship but they will never admit they like each other
petra picks up spanish from miguel and them and miles speak it to each other to practice 🥹
tiny people having superior senses is like my favorite trope that i use with every time so it’s a no-brainer here, they know shit like a few seconds before the others sense it
miguel is so protective over them it’s insane. they pretend it bothers them but deep down they rely on that security
#stop i need to write some slice of life fic with all of this information#SERIOUSLY THANK YOU FOR THESE IM JUST IN AWE#i’m glad you like petra too like omg :’)))#asks
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prompted by the last spiderverse art i just rb'd lmao
i think it's super funny when people make art with the spiderverse kids and include spiderbyte.
she was so nothing that it's actually funny to me how much people like her
she had less screentime than lyla. she gave miles puppydog eyes and then proceeded to not be relevant until she had the choice to let him go or not, but still didn't catch the fact that he was going home wrong, chooses to betray miguel and endorse universe erasure despite not having any skin in the game other than the 3 words they exchanged earlier.
she was so nothing i didn't even remember her until the final shot where she's standing there with the band and i was like who- oh. you?? you??? i imagine she'll have a bigger role in the next movie but until then lmfao
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