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Hey, I tried to look at the zerrie and sophiam is fake masterpost you reblogged but it was "keep reading" and the blog which made it is deactivated. Ik you probably can't do anything about it but one thing that caught my eyes was that Perrie didn't even know Zayn's ethnicity and zerrie was for whitewashing him, so can you explain that in short?
Hey nonnie!
Wow, those names are taking me back quite a few years, talk about a blast from the past 😅
As for your question, in an interview back when they will still playing at the very obvious untruth (I don't know if that's even a word but I am sticking with it) that Zayn was determined to marry a woman conveniently in another musical group under the same management team as him despite the fact that he looked anything but happy about the situation (same could be said about Liam, but I digress), Perrie had this to say about they're never-actually-happening-wedding:
Anyone who has known Zayn for any amount of time - most of all the woman he apparently wanted to spend the rest of his life with - knows that he's not Indian, his Pakistani 💀. What makes this even funnier is Gigi pulled the exact same fail years later and claimed he was middle eastern:
You seriously can't make this shit up.
As for the other part of your question, I can't speak too much to it because I'm not 100% sure. But from what I understand, there was a theory that they brought in a blonde hair blue and wide eye girl because they thought it would help to clean up his image and make him appear more "white".
Hopefully this helps!
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We all know Larry is real and they've been in love for years, but do you believe Ziam was/is real?
BRUH HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO MY BLOG BEFORE?????????????
I kid I kid but Jesus is Lord YES I DO!
Probably 60% of my blog is being a raging mess that so many people don’t believe it’s real lol. Feel free to check out all the tags I’m about to link in this post.
#ZIAM ZIAM ZIAM#Sophiam is fake#Zerrie is fake#Payzer 2.0 is fake#Ziam is real#Ziam masterpost#Anonymous
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HELLO EVERYONE!!
First off, I haven’t been here for a long period of time so I am sorry for being very inactive. Second, I am turning this page into a Fashion/Harry Styles tumblr page. I am also going to try my hardest to be up to date since I feel like I can do more if I actually put some time and effort on this tumblr page.
Anyways that’s all and this picture is so sexy i just cant.
Take care loves x
#harry styles#solo harry#one direction#london fashion#Fashion#1d#men fashion#larry#larry is fake#larry is real#larry stylinson#elounorisfake#elounor is real#elounor breakup#eleanor calder#elounor is fake#sophiam#sophiam is fake#sophiam is dead#sophiam was real#solo niall#solo louis#solo liam#1d af#1d art#model
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Promo for the 3 beards all together? Wow, guess solo Liam is really around the corner. Be ready, it’ll be a powerful impact.
#imagine something happening today#on the 24th#would be nice#chiam is fake#sophiam is fake#payzer is fake#liam payne#solo liam#mine
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Eleanor is back. Liam’s sister liked some Sophia’s photos. I guess we have to keep our eyes on Sophia. And on Perrie too.
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@antis when you have a shit ton of people in the industry literally telling you it's a stunt...it just might be a stunt fam
(...like they're kind of the experts? they work in this industry for a living and they know what's up and how shit works? so for ya'll to always be hopping on your high horse acting all high and mighty telling them they're wrong is kind of ridiculous tbh...would you tell a cardiologist they're doing open heart surgery wrong? no. cause you don't know shit about open heart surgery. so why would you deign to think you know more than someone who's seen and lived this kind of shit firsthand? it's like climate change my dude, if you have a bunch of experts telling you something's not right...it's probably not right)
#ziam#ch*am#z*gi#ch*am is fake#z*gi was fake#zerrie was fake#sophiam was fake#payzer was fake#fake fake fake fake fake#ziam is real#get with the winning team hoe
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anyways i cant wait till zigi and chiam end :)
#that will be the day#i will literally pop bottles like i did when zerrie broke up#and sophiam#zigi doesn't bother me as much since they aint doing shit#they been quiet for months#but chiam does bc a fake child is involved#and liam is being dragged into it
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Do you think that Andy and Liam still friends? On his wedding was Sophia but not Liam 🤔
I actually talked about this with a mutual the other day. I have no idea, I would say yes but maybe they're not as close as they used to be. My mutual thinks Andy was a "fake" friend to make sophiam look more real. But Andy has been there since TXF, years before sophiam started. It's hard to know bc all of Liam's friends or "friends" (like those who appeared right when sophiam started) that we've seen publicly come from Wolverhampton and Birmingham where he went to school. Tho I'm sure he has other friends we don't know about. So who knows 🤷 But maybe Liam simply couldn't go because of his work schedule (the wedding was rescheduled bc of covid so maybe things didn't work out) or yeah maybe they grew apart 🤷 guess we'll see
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There’s so much dissonance around the boys. They’re portrayed as dicks in the press but everybody who’s met them sing praises and speak well of them. We have the fans that believe everything about them, but somehow don’t believe they’re dicks. We have the fans that question things based in years of bullshit, but are vilified for picking up what the boys put down themselves...
Can we ever get some consistency here? Can that be a thing one day? in less than 20 years preferably?
#info#this especially referring to Liam#I know of people that called Sophiam fake and now live in Cheryl's floral arse#(LMAO)#if she comes back in the picture to 'break' Chiam up#does that mean it will be real then?#y'all have to make up your minds#at least be consistent in your conclusions#I also saw a post with Larries validating the whole Chiam thing#when they admit they don't know anything but somehow they KNOW EVERYTHING#how does that work?#...anyway#I just find it funny how everything is#because when we call out straight nonsense#this is the kind of shit we mean#since it's a presumed straight couple#no one bats an eye to a bunch of shit that makes NO sense#what in the actual hell...#anyway#anyone following this mess of a blog knows my instance on things#and I'm just seeing where this shit is going#I'm not dumbing myself down for anyone#free1D2k17#freeLiam2k17#I think my tags are longer than the actual post#LMAO
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hi! i really believe chiam is fake and that baby is not liam's son but it piss me off why there are so many people who firmly believed chiam was fake too and as soon as they saw the "announcement" yesterday, now they changed their minds. do you think is bc people are tired to believe most things 1d related are fake or is bc it doesn't seem like liam situation is the same situation as louis?
The only reason I started to be like, “Wait a second...” was because the bears kept leading up to Liam-related stuff like the end of Sophiam and all the red and yellow stickers. I’ve never thought the bears were exclusively about Larry, especially after this
And then there was all of this...
Anyway, I think by the time Babygate 2.0 came around people had just about had enough of
to last them a lifetime, so maybe it was just collective exhaustion from all the bullshit. Who’s to say?
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I wonder if it drives Maya crazy that Liam’s family quite literally hates her , I mean they’re using social media to show that too. Nicola unfollowed her and Ruth refuses to like anything she posts but if Sophia (who apparently is perfect and has done no wrong ever) posted a picture of a flower Ruth would be there in two seconds to like it 🤣 I have to give it to Sophia she has had so much staying power compared to the other “gfs” and has Liam’s inner circle and 1D team still catering to her seven years past. Maya will be erased the minute she’s officially dropped . Pettiness aside, Liam’s face is so sad in those pics 🤧
Honestly the Payne sisters are an interesting case to me.
Just based off the fact that his entire family refused to acknowledge Maya at Liam's birthday even speaks volumes to me, but they're constantly liking and sharing stuff for Cheryl, even though she's Liam's worst beard, hands down. I would put this all down to the fact that they're very clearly Girls Aloud fans, and Liam doesn't seem to have an issue with it - even jokes about it - and I don't see why I should, if that's the case.
Sophia, I haven't paid attention to inn a very long time. Out of all the beards, she always seemed the quietest, probably because her account was on private while they were publicly dating. She also seems the most irrelevant. Maybe they just like her content? Or maybe she was one of the only decent beards behind the scenes (that doesn't say much though, since she accepted the payment to be his beard)? These are questions we'll probably never get the answers to, but I don't think they're all that important, to be honest.
And don't get me started with just how miserable Liam looks in almost every photo taken with her. How people refuse to acknowledge that astounds me, and shows that they don't care about him or his health, just how good he makes her look. (And seriously stop with the paparazzi excuse, it doesn't make a shred of sense anymore!! 🙄)
Thanks for the asks nonnie, have a good day!
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anon now I’m mad all over again sksksksksksksksk who knew something WORSE was coming for Liam :( it’s so unfair he deserves the world :(
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hi there! i'm still somewhat new to this fandom but i'm familiar with bg and everything so i'm just wondering why people believe that liam is also stunting with cheryl? is he believed to be gay as well and this relationship with her and his baby is just another cover up? like i understand why people believe louis isn't really a dad but i don't see as much regarding liam? can you try and explain this??
Hi Nonnie!
First of all, welcome to the fandom. It’s a mess, but it’s our mess lol
I’m gonna be honest, when I first got this ask I had no clue where to start explaining just how fake Chiam is, and I wish I had a textbook answer for you. The best way I can put it is that literally everything about it makes no sense logically. None of it. Prepare for a lot of rambling.
Not sure how into the fandom you are, but if you’ve heard of RBB/SBB, they foreshadowed Chiam on Liam’s bday in 2015 at a show, using toothpaste labeled “Colegate” which is a nod to her first marriage, and the original babygate which had been labeled a couple months earlier.
As far as timelines go, Sophiam ended late October 2015. Charcole actually got married for the second time in mid 2014, and while her and her husband seperated in late 2015, they both wore their wedding rings into 2016, despite the fact that later it was hinted that Chiam began at the XF final in 2015. Chiam was announced in the exact same way every other stunt is: via an exclusive to Dick Wattpad from the Sun. Baby rumors started a couple months later, nearly 2 full months before the date Charcole supposedly conceived. During this time, Chiam made a few public appearances, all staged red carpets or pap walks, and they were never spotted together by fans outside of these. Charcole had a baby bump months before she was pregnant, and baited the media by putting her hand over her stomach in multiple events. After she became “pregnant”, Liam basically moved to LA and lived there for her entire pregnancy. He began partying, worked on his album, and acted like a single guy for the duration with no care in the world for Charcole. What a normal thing for a dad-to-be to do. They never officially announced the pregnancy, she just turned up obviously pregnant in December 2016, and then posed for Loreal with a massive bump on a campaign released in February. Her bump changed in sizes and height throughout the pregnancy, but she went into hiding so it was difficult to actual tell what was going on, which was 100% the point. The birth was announced via a single photo of Liam with a baby, despite the fact that usually moms pose with their baby. To this day, we’ve never seen the baby’s face, and Charcole has yet to show off her pride and joy. Privacy is one thing, but this is another thing entirely. If it wasn’t for Liam babbling on, you’d have no clue she had a kid.
So what are my issues with Chiam? First of all, her association with Satan Cowbell. They are besties. Judges together on XF, and recently I found out that she’s also an executive producer. Chiam was used to promote XF in late October with probably the cringiest moment they’ve had yet. If you hate Satan because of what he did to Louis/Harry, you better be concerned that Liam “willingly” shacked up with one of his friends.
Secondly, timing. Liam was planning a solo career. It’s been his dream for over 10 years. Why on earth would he decide to settle down in the middle of trying to launch his solo career, just months after ended a long term relationship? Basically this stunt forced him to “choose” between his career and his kid, which is NOT something that a loving partner would put you through. Charcole was also married until late 2016. If she was so desperate for a baby, wouldn’t it make more sense to have it with your husband rather than a guy 10 years her junior in a completely different stage of life? She’s old but she still has time. Literally everything about this relationship was set up to fail. Also, what exactly do they have in common? They moved so quickly that Liam never had to talk about her/why they are even dating. To me, the only things they have in common are that they were both in a band (with very different experiences..) and they have a kid together. Nice.
Thirdly, Charcole’s presence in his promo. In 2014 she released an album that flopped pretty badly because she really can’t sing at all her. Her fame came from her very public relationship drama and her association with XF when it was at the height of it’s fame. Her career is pretty much over and she’s most likely desperate for anything to reverse this progression. What better way to find new fans than to try and tap into one of the largest fandoms out there? Of course, she didn’t take into account the fact that we aren’t 13 year old girls with no brains, and therefore aren’t going to blindly stan her like people did with Sofa and Elk in the past. She’s ridiculously problematic as a person (she punched a woman in the face for doing her job and got convicted for assault, admitted to attacking her ex husband, dodged taxes via a shady company that closed in 2014 right when she turned up suddenly married to JB. The list goes on and on), and from what I’ve seen her personality stinks, so why would we support her? For the most part, people either dislike her or just don’t care at all. Bummer. Liam’s promo was the only way for her to get positive news out there about herself without her doing all the talking. Unfortunately for her, Liam went overboard and now people hate her just as much, if not more, than they did before this stunt. Just to be clear: normal celebs don’t launch their careers by constantly telling stories about their kid, s/o and hyping up their accomplishments from 8 years ago.
Fourthly, body language. This is a big one. Liam’s eyes in the very first selfie of them scared me to death because he looked so upset and resigned. Literally screaming for help with his facial expression. All along, the lack of intimacy between Chiam is pretty hard to dispute. They are not comfortable together at all, and I know some media sites called them out for faking affection on red carpets when they are distant in private in May 2016. Liam was a lot better at faking it last year as well, because he’s nothing if not professional. At XF this year, it was literally painful to watch them interact, and I made a post about that when it happened. Basically, as a couple they don’t have the familiarity that they should have considering all they’ve squeezed into less than two years. Liam also doesn’t talk about her fondly at all. If you pay attention, a lot of his comments just about her are negative: she scolds him, nags him, rolls her eyes at him, dresses him (in hideous pants, someone burn those), makes all the decisions about the baby, critcizes his music, etc, but at least she was famous back when he was 15 eh? (Them meeting at 14/24 when she was married for years is just another nasty aspect. She was in a mentor role and I’m disgusted she was okay with this stunt. It’s so wrong on so many levels.) Overall she sounds pretty awful to me, and that’s just based off of the picture Liam is painting.
And finally, the saga of Conchobear. The difference between actual celebrities having babies (think Beyoncé), vs Charcole is hilarious. No one ever saw her stomach when pregnant, she hid for months before and after the birth, and low and behold she popped back up with a new face! That’s the second 1D mom to get extensive plastic surgery when she should be caring for an infant. I seriously doubt she actually was pregnant, but that’s not something I’ll go into here. Liam was out working on his career a month after the announcement, and has been travelling pretty consistently since. He’s missed multiple important holidays; for example, on Father’s Day he flew from the US to Italy for a fashion show, and then back to the US. On Conchobear’s 6 month bday, Liam went out and did interviews. Do you really think that if Liam was an actual dad, he wouldn’t make every effort and move mountains to spend as much time as possible with his firstborn son? It just doesn’t make sense with what we know about Liam’s personality. He’s responsible, and he wouldn’t put himself in this situation. What he says, what we are fed, what he does, and what we know about him as a person don’t line up at all. Liam sounds like an amazing involved dad with his tales, but he lacks a basis in basic human development; his stories are cute and so unrealistic. Thus, Liam hasn’t spent any significant time with a baby. The entire stunt has been setting up single mom!Charcole, but Liam’s team has made sure to prevent her from calling him a deadbeat via the stories. It’s hard to say he was never around when he’s gushing about the kid in every interview. He’s also gotten worse at lying recently, and I get the feeling he’s tired.
So yeah, basically every aspect of this relationship is messed up in one way or another, and I’m expecting to see Chiam end sooner rather than later. If they are both out working on material, they won’t be able to hold it together imo. There’s definitely stuff I’ve missed and if any of my mutuals/followers want to add to this feel free. This is just stuff I thought of off the top of my head.
For specific examples of some of what I’ve mentioned you can check out the Twitter thread I linked below. It has some great resources and that account in general is amazing at breaking down stunt events. I’m also gonna reblog a post comparing Chiam to Zigi (another dead fauxmance) and Hiddleswift that is pretty interesting for you to look over.
https://twitter.com/EndBabygates/status/856439540831195137
Enjoy your stay in the fandom Nonnie. If you have any specific questions or need recommendations for who to follow, shoot me a message!
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Sea, I had a thought about the reasoning behind the Liam exclusive. Before Elounor 2.0, Louis’ mum randomly commented on E’s Instagram picture after a long time of no E and L interaction (to draw fandom attention back to E). Ruth just did that for Sophia, and now the “reveal” of Sophia being the Belfast cancelation reason has me... wondering. This all depends on believing Sophiam was set up/fake, which I understand is something not many people believe. Just sharing my two cents.
One Direction fandom is based on the Wrinkle in Time string theory of time travel. One fold and we’re all back in 2013.
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Louis, Harry, Family and Friends’ Denials of Larry (as a Whole or as a Theory) and Confirmation of Elounor
(@seirral4) [Updated 13/08/2017]
[DISCLAIMER: this post has been recreated due to 1arry-isnt-rea1′s deactivation. Everything has been compiled and written by them, except when stated otherwise: the version retrieved was old, so some debunks went missing, and the situation needed to be mended. Also some links were updated, some denials reorganized, and some lexicon actualized: Larry Shippers --> Larries to avoid confusion. Give credit when you share some else’s contents.]
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Larries seem to think Harry and Louis have not denied Larry. They have, yet Larries still make up excuses for it.
I wanted to make a post showing all family or friends who have denied Larry at some point. This post is not only Larry denials, but confirmations of Elounor or denials of a theory of Larry (i.e. tattoos and such).
I never see people talk about most of these denials.
Guess why?
Like I have always said, Larries only see what they want to. They ignore everything that disproves or doesn’t support their ship.
I can also hear every Larrie scream, “THEY DIDN’T SAY ‘LARRY ISN’T REAL’ THOUGH."
That is a USELESS excuse. They do not need to say those three words to convey the same message. If that is your excuse for everything you will see in this post, you are helpless and clueless. Do not bother reading.
Lastly, if you are a Larrie and consider anyone in this post "irrelevant,” just remind yourself that you believe day old Twitter accounts who claim to have seen Larry with no proof. Everyone in this post has met the boys multiple times, is a good friend of the boys, or are family members. Not random people behind a screen who can easily make up lies.
[Image and video heavy.]
***Quick Note: I will post old screenshots if the reply was hard to find on my iPhone version of Twitter. Sometimes it just shows his or her tweet (which I would specifically search for) but not the original tweet he or she had replied to, then I will also post a screenshot on the current version of Twitter to show it is real. If the current version of Twitter shows both the fan’s tweet and his or her reply, I will only post that.
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Stanley Lucas
Stanley had replied to Louis’ tweet about Eleanor and his anniversary. Shortly after that, Stanley’s started replying to Larries who were spamming and harassing him with tweets talking about how Larry is real and Elounor is fake.
He started by just replying with “weird” to fans. Then he tweeted the following picture:
This tweet has been deleted. If you are doubting whether or not it’s real, go type in his tweet and @ name. There are tons of quoted tweets from that day on that time. It was real.
He then tweeted the following:
He continued to reply to many fans about different things. I’m only showing the ones about Larry or Elounor. In the following screenshot, you will see the fan’s question and his answer.
Next, the screenshot is of the current version of Twitter. You can look up this tweet yourself to verify that it is real.
He continued on and on. Here is yet another.
Once again, here is the screenshot from the current version of twitter.
The Larries really did harass him that day. He continues on.
Love how he called the theory of Larry “rubbish.” Now here is the screenshot form the current version of Twitter.
Then one fucking idiot said believing in Larry was an opinion, and Stan was wrong even though he has known Louis for years. He replied to her as well.
Now the current screenshot.
One again, he replied to a Larrie. This time it included Harry.
I could not find the tweet to take a current screenshot when I searched for it. I didn’t scroll through his account. I don’t know if it was deleted or not, but it was real. There are many quoted tweets from it on the same day and time.
In the next one, he tells a Larrie how crazy her theory is.
Then he continues to tell Larries that Louis is straight because they are STILL NOT GETTING IT.
Once again, he sets Larries straight on the difference between a fact and an opinion.
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Max Hurd
Max Hurd is one of Eleanor’s best friends. As far as I can tell, she has known him before she met Louis or around the same time.
On September 9, 2012, a Larrie harassed him by calling Eleanor a beard. He had the following conversation with them.
If you don’t believe this happened, feel free to search up the tweets. They are still there and ver underrated. Almost no one even noticed this conversation.
Next one. On February 27, 2014, Max again replied to a Larrie who assumed Eleanor was his girlfriend. Apparently, if you are a girl and a boy, you can’t be friends without people thinking you’re fucking. He replied with this:
Again, this got barely any attention. I wonder why. Once again, feel free to search up the tweets. They are still there.
Now let’s move on to Max’s Instagram comments. I will first post a screenshot of the picture the comments are located on, so those who want to look them up themselves can. Then I will post a screenshot of the comment he replied to and his reply.
Yes, this is his real Instagram. He has had it forever, and he is constantly uploading new pictures.
These screenshots confirm Elounor more than deny Larry, but just wait, those are coming up.
I like how he added the, “Deluded, weird, blocked,” at the end there.
These are really funny to me because the whole Gretchen and Tina thing is beyond hilarious.
Anyways, again, he does not have to say “Larry isn’t real” to tell you the same thing. Also, he only confirms Elounor once again. How many times has he done that so far?
“I am not going to answer any of your larry bullshit because I actually cannot get my head around how screwed up and cruel you are to accuse my friend of being hired to be someone’s girlfriend.”
“You need to open your eyes and stop seeing what you want to see and realize what is actually there. Which is a long term relationship between two people who love each other."
”…so piece together some weird fantasy for yourself"
Larries, look up the word fantasy if you don’t understand how this is a denial.
Next.
All of these started because Larries continued to harass Max about “Gretchen” and “Tina” even though he has already addressed it.
Max comments “Y'all need Jesus,” so a Larry Shipper comments, “Max needs to get dick out his ass and be more mature and Jesus isn’t real so no one needs him.”
Max then replies with, “Neither is 'Larry’ so you need to find a different obsession to waste your life on.”
DID YOU READ THAT, LARRiES? He just told you Larry isn’t real without using those words. Stop using your bullshit excuse of needing those three words in the same order.
Last one, finally.
Before anyone loses their shit, he did mentioned the girl again and apologized for the “Die in a hole you fucking peasant” part.
Anyways, he again does not say the exact words, “Larry isn’t real” but I think, “something that is as real as the tooth fairy” is descriptive enough for Larries to get the point.
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Sasha Malik
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Julian Bunetta
Julian is one of the boys’ songwriters and producers.
No, he does NOT work for Modest. He would work under the label.
Yes, this is his twitter.
No, he is not verified, but the boys have mentioned him in tweets before.
In the first screenshot, a fan is annoying Julian with questions as to whether Larry is real or not. He replied:
This is a perfect example of something I said at the beginning of the post.
No, he did not say “Larry isn’t real”, however he said it in a different way. You guys do realize what the word “imaginary” means, correct?
Also, if Larry was real, he would not have responded. He has no obligation to reply to fans on Twitter. He gets tons of questions, especially when he begins answering many fans at once. He did NOT have to answer, but he choose to. I wonder why.
This tweet is still there, you can look it up if you would like.
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Simon Jones of Hackford Jones PR
I could not find exactly what Simon’s job title is. He definitely works at HJPR, he might even own it since his last name is in the company’s name. Regardless, his role at the company is a very important one. On July 19, 2014 he tweeted this:
I wanted to verify the fact that this company represents One Direction. The screenshot below is from their website. I highlighted the part that says they do in fact represent the boys.
No, this is not a denial of Elounor or Larry, but it is a denial that the company has even purposely fabricated a relationship. That would include Elounor, Zerrie, Sophiam, Haylor, and so on.
Also, I found this on their website. It’s a testimonial from Modest Management.
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Fizzy’s Best Friend, Tasha
This happened only a few days ago, feel free to look it up. It is real.
Before you start questioning if this account is real, it is. Her Ask in linked to her Instagram, which Fizzy follows.
If you are a Larrie, before you lose your shit, she later said she knew Larry didn’t actually destroy their friendship. However, it still did affect it.
I don’t want to hear how Fizzy’s best friend wouldn’t know anything. My best friend knows everything about my life. When I am talking about shit that pisses me off, she is there to listen. I’m sure it is the same way with Fizzy.
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Gemma Styles
No, this is not a direct denial. However, I do think it is telling of what Gemma thinks of Larry. Remember, she did not need to reply to this. She has fans tweeting her tons of things, and she is not obligated to reply to any of it. She choose to reply to this, and it was probably to deny the ridiculous rumor that she was “hinting” Larry was real. Notice how all their proof is assumptions that they believe are hints?
[Added Aug 2017]
But Larries can’t have nice things, so it was a matter of time really for Gemma to end up denying Larry. It was on Tumblr after she received this ask:
It’s been since then deleted, but that doesn’t take her words back. People that believe in Larry are a WASTE.
The next one is not a proper Larry denial, but more like the first example. Around week after Freddie Tomlinson was born Gemma liked this on IG:
Larries immediately took it as a sign, claimed she was shading “babygate,” and that it meant the denial of Freddie being Louis’ son was coming SOON (yeah, they always say that.) Of course nothing happened, and asked to clarify Gemma said this:
The mentality that implies that everything is connected to the thing that matters to them is actually a trait of conspiracy theorists’ mentality. Anyway, as we all know, “babygate” didn’t “end”, thus this became another sort of Larry denial, and proof that the family of the boys are pretty aware of how Larries work. She got to hear a couple of more complaints about it.
More recently, in 2016, Gemma posted a picture of a graffiti on IG:
Even if in the graffiti both human forms have blue eyes, some Larries jumped in, claiming that it proved Larry. Again, everything is about them and Larry, even if it’s Gemma’s IG and she has, like, HER OWN LIFE.
Yes. See the green and blue hearts so characteristic of the larriedom, and Gemma’s reaction. Sadly, instead of backing off at her reply that the post had nothing to do with Larry, they went after her and called her ableist, just because she dared to deny Larry. One moment they love you, the next one they hate you.
There’s no winning with these people. All we can do is wonder when the next denial will come.
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Keith Tomlinson
Before you begin questioning if his account is real, it is. No, Louis does not follow him. However, other family members do, and he has posted never before seen pictures of Louis and himself.
I really don’t give a shit if you don’t consider him as Louis’ real grandfather anymore just because he was only his grandfather by marriage. Louis grew up with him. You don’t need to be related by blood to consider someone as family, that’s just fucking stupid.
Louis visits him often. He denies Larry. Get the fuck over it. Stop making excuses for it.
Remember, this post is of denials of Larry and confirmations of Elounor. Keith confirmed Eleanor with the very obvious, “Goodnight disbelievers” to all the Larries out there.
Go ahead, search it up to verify it’s real if you need to.
This next one is not a denial of Larry or a confirmation of Elounor, however, I thought I would add it in here to show the frustration with Larries.
Keith has absolutely no chill with Larries. (Personally, I think it was not necessary, but I think it’s just really frustrating to family and friend of especially Louis.)
Again, search it up on Twitter to verify it is real.
Keith literally has zero chill.
[Added: Feb, 2017.]
Keith passed away early 2016. He had a last quarrel with a Larrie who was spamming a tweet of Harry about a terrorist attack with “Larry is real:”
Keith wasn’t here for the disrespect and lack of boundaries. And neither should you.
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Lottie Tomlinson
It isn’t even funny anymore. I honestly don’t know why some Larries continue to harass Lottie.
There was so much drama in the fandom when this happened, oh my gosh. Eleanor also commented, but we are just focusing on Lottie.
Yes, I know this is not a direct denial of Larry. however, like I said before, they do not need to say, “Larry isn’t real” to portray the same message.
I think “SHUT UP YOU DELUDED F R E A K S” and “Sit down and shut up because you people do not know A THING” will suffice. Next.
This screenshot is from when Lottie accidentally favorited a gif of Harry and Louis with the caption, “boyfriends”.
Of course, all the Larries lost their shit and seemed to have completely forgotten about the time she called them deluded freaks.
Lottie quickly un-favorited it and tweeted that. She deleted the tweet minutes after she posted it. You can search up the tweet and see a bunch of quoted tweets on the same day and time to verify it was real.
No, this isn’t a denial. However, she did tell Larries to go away and she admitted it was a mistake.
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Fizzy Tomlinson
The first one I have is from when Fizzy did a Twitcam with her friend.
Fizzy did a twitcam in June of 2012. During it, she talks about Louis’ sexuality.
She says, “I don’t say it’s a bad thing to be gay. It’s just kind of rude to me because I know he’s not gay, and you’re all just like ‘No, your brother’s gay.’ Like, no he isn’t. Shut up.”
She then reads a comment that says, “Louis is clearly gay,” to which she replies, “He has a girlfriend!” (It is cut off).
You can watch it HERE.
Yes, I know. She only said he isn’t gay, and I can hear Larries say, “He doesn’t have to be gay for Larry to be real.” You are right.
However, Fizzy did confirm his relationship with Eleanor. I do know one can have a girlfriend, yet still be interested in men too. However, one cannot be in a relationship with his best friend and girlfriend at the same time.
Next.
I went through Fizzy’s Ask.FM. I did not scroll all the way to her very first answer because I found plenty before than. There are tons, and some of them (about Eleanor specifically) I did not add because it was not directly about Elounor or Larry.
Keep in mind. Fizzy gets tons of questions all the time. It’s her choice on which ones she wants to reply to. She clearly wanted to reply to this for a reason.
Let’s begin the long list of answers. They are not exactly in order.
The link was to the clip where Harry grabs Louis and kisses him on the cheek during an interview. Fizzy replied with, “Do you think if he was being serious he would do that in the middle of an interview?”
“Larry isn’t real but ship what you want,” THERE YOU GO LARRIES. THERE ARE THE THREE WORDS YOU ACTUALLY DON’T WANT TO HEAR.
This is something I always say when family members or friends deny Larry. It is ridiculous to say they are lying when they would just avoid answering at all.
“He doesn’t hate you, just your ship.”
“No, it isn’t.”
“Yes, Elounor is true love, and Larry is fake,” There you go, once again.
“You just see what you want to see,” HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I SAID THIS? YOU GO, FIZZY!
“If Larry was real, I would ship it but it’s not so I don’t haha"
Well, that was simple.
Simple answer.
There is most likely even more than just these. I only search back a little over a year and a half.
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Niall and Josh
During a Twitcam from over two years ago, Josh was reading comments on the Twitcam he was doing will Niall.
One comment talked about Zayn and Liam’s ship name, which is Ziam. Josh then realized what Larry was. Niall says, "Alright yeah,” with a very dead pan face. They then begin talking about something else. Niall reads a comment that asks if Larry is real. As soon as he reads the comment out loud, he shakes his head and flips his hand as if to show he is annoyed. Josh then says, “I’m pretty sure Larry isn’t real, guys,” while Niall laughs.
I find this funny. This was only a few months after the first bullshit tweets. Niall is clearly like, “Do they not get it…?"
Josh did not even know what "Larry Stylinson” was. Wow! It must be soOOooOOO real.
If you read the comment sections, it is full of Larries who say Niall could have flat out said no, but he didn’t. Honestly, his reaction was telling enough, but I understand where they are coming from.
The whole, “If Larry isn’t read, why haven’t they denied it,” thing, is a different story for a different post I have in the works.
Whether you think Niall’s reaction was a denial or not, Josh denies it too.
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Liam
I LIVE for Liam’s denials of Larry. Let’s begin.
The following picture is an old screenshot. In the current screenshot, it won’t show the tweet Liam replied to. I posted both so you could see what he replied to and see that the tweet is still there. You can still search for the tweet and find it.
The next picture is the current screenshot.
Next.
No, he didn’t deny Larry as a whole, but I don’t want to miss anything. So many people don’t even know most of these things in this post happened.
Next.
Yes, I know screenshots of DMs from either Instagram or Twitter can be faked. I almost never trust any DMs because they are faked quite often.
However, this one was real. The girl who Liam messaged back took a video of his DM and posted it on her Instagram. Her Instagram is now private, but I found someone else who took her video and posted it in their account.
If you are going to say videos like hers can be faked, please show me your receipts. I have NEVER found any. I have had many Larries act like know-it-all-shits and then go ghost when I ask for proof.
The DM is real. Next.
Once again, I would not trust this DM unless the girl had a video, which she did.
The link to the proof that the DM was real is HERE.
Let me explain what happened with this DM because many people were confused. This girl (@rtsophiam) was followed by Liam and Sophia. She had messaged Liam, asking if Larry was real or not. He unfollowed her. He then, being the kind hearted boy he is, re-followed her and messaged her that.
You can go check. She still has her Liam follow and she had it before the DM incident occurred.
Now, I know Larries were only say it was Modest. That will be their excuse for these DMs. Let me remind you of Liam’s tweets the same night this happened.
His tweets sound exactly like Liam. Go look up all of his tweets from October 2, 2014.
Also, notice his tweets about crazy DMs that are either fun, shocking, or strange? Hm. I wonder what DM he is referring to.
Lastly, during an interview, when asked to explain what Larry is, Liam said, “He’s imaginary.”
Again, do I need to write the definition of imaginary for you, Larries?
[Added: Feb, 2017.]
On his solo interview for Attitude Magazine (Sept 2015,) Liam had some words for the Larries, concerning Larry and Louis’ impending parenthood:
“People think of the Louis and Harry thing [that they’re secret lovers,] which is nuts and drives me insane.” The idea of Larry is, according to Liam, “nuts.” But he goes forward and call the Larries a “conspiracy” and a “cult,” telling that people make every gesture [of Louis and Harry] about them being together, and he knows “it’s not true” and it makes him “mad.” He knows “what’s what” [he understands the inner jokes and gestures] but has to hear “all these crazy theories.”
“I get tagged in drawings of Louis and Harry being together.” The 4th wall is broken. Well done, Larries. This is not fandom; this is not support. This is, as Liam says in his comparison, a conspiracy theory: “Imagine you’re the man who lands on the moon and you come back home to hear some people saying you didn’t.” Put yourself in these people’s shoes for once and imagine how it would be having people denying part or the whole of your existence. Liam stated Larry is not real and compared you, Larries, with conspiracists and cult people. He also stated that Louis was happy to become a dad, as he’s been for over a year now. When will you get the cue that your invasiveness is not welcomed?
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[Added: Feb, 2017.]
Zayn
In the interview he gave to the Fader in 2015, Zayn had the chance to talk about some of his experiences in One Direction. The conversation quickly moved to the fans’ culture.
Talking about shipping culture and fan theories Zayn stated:
“There’s no secret relationships going on with any of the band members.” This is a direct quote from Zayn, that established that Larry (or any of the other ships, even those not majorly tinhatted, like his own ship with Liam) is not real. But he goes further and says the fan theories had an effect in the way the boys behave in public: “It’s not funny, and it still continues to be quite hard for them. They won’t naturally go put their arm around each other because they’re conscious of this thing that’s going on, which is not even true. They won’t do that natural behavior.” It’s not the gay rumors that affected Larry’s public bond, but the constant harassment and invasiveness, the fact that there are tons of denials and people still spams every single post of the boys (and friends and family) with Larry’s claims. It’s the same Liam said for Attitude, it’s the constant watching and interpretation that exhausted them; in Zayn’s own words: “knowing that everything you do will be parsed for subtext is a terrible mindfuck.” Congratulation, Larries, you played yourselves and ruined Larry for the world.
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Louis
[Reorganized Aug 2017]
16/09/2012: Bullshit 1.0
Louis calls Larry’s theories conspiracies, and implies that the people involved in it aren’t lovely. He also addresses how those people give the fandom a bad name, thing that’s been proven to be a massive issue intra fandom and with media and GP’s perception of it and fannish behavior. He also refers to Larry as the “biggest load of bullshit.” The impact and following tantrum was so big that, to be able to cope Larries called the episode “bullshit 1.0,” because even if it should have ended that very day, they carried on, leaving room for even more denials left and right, and “bullshit 2.0.”
As I said, Larries got so defensive they ended up attacking Jay because, as always, she dared to speak up for her son and his girlfriend. Louis had to return and address the harassment again. His mother, people.
The issue ended that day with Louis making clear that HE DOESN’T CONSIDER LARRIES REAL FANS, and that any claim about anyone else but himself tweeting was inaccurate (sounds like he knew already the kind of theories he was dealing with):
Sept 2012: Chatty Man’s denial is reported in this article. The words quoted directly from Louis are consistent with everything Louis’ said on the matter to this day, that Larry makes things difficult for Harry and him, and that it’s disrespectful to his girlfriend.
“I just think it's really degrading towards her,” he explained, mentioning Eleanor again. What's most fascinating is that he admitted that he'd known about the pairing for a while, but that after a while it became more taxing than fun: “This is a subject that was funny at first but now is actually hard to deal with, as I am in relationship. Me and Harry are best friends. People look into our every move—it is actually affecting the way me and Harry are in public.”
Oct 2012: Louis calls Larry Stylinson “a conspiracy of fanfiction.” When Unreality TV asked about Larry rumors, Louis said:
There’s also a recorded interview with thehothits.com around the same period of time of Louis talking about the matter HERE. I leave you a transcription:
“I’m sure if you follow me on Twitter, you’ll know that every now and again I’m quite outspoken. I think it’s important to speak your mind, and I’ve had a few rants recently. You know, people who have been horrible to my girlfriend Eleanor and to my mum, and I just don’t think people should be able to get away with it. I don’t go to bed and worry about it, I just think that people if they want to be like that, should be put in their place.”
We know you’ve been working on it, sweetie, but these people are so self-absorbed and selfish they don’t listen to anyone but themselves.
Nov 2013: Louis called Larry “a fucking annoyance.” Talking about fan theories and conspiracy theories, Zayn and Louis went off:
Looks like someone was pretty tired. You can read the whole interview HERE.
Do I really need to look up the words conspiracy and fiction for Laries to get the point?
21/07/2017: Louis denies Larry in an interview with The Sun. You can watch the video HERE (starts at 00:31.)
After relating the phenomenon to conspiracy theories, Louis states that “obviously there’s there’s not truth to it” [Larry’s conspiracy theory] glancing directly into the camera (like Larries always dreamed about) around 01:05. If there’re still doubts about it, or you don’t want to watch it, here are the gifs made by @slowhandsmp3:
And again a transcription:
Dan Wootton: Can you tell me what your view is on these people who are obsessed by a “Larry” conspiracy?
LOUIS: I’ve never actually been asked about it directly. It’s a funny thing. People can believe what they want to believe. It comes across as a little bit disrespectful to the ones that I love, like Eleanor. It’s like anything, if you google a conspiracy on iPhones, you’re gonna get a conspiracy. It’s one of those things people love to buy into, but in reality, obviously there’s no truth to it, obviously.
The same day The Sun published an exclusive interview where Louis went deeper in the issue:
“Louis and Harry’s friendship was also dogged by a ridiculous five-year conspiracy by a group of determined fans known as Larries.
They believe that the pair are in a romantic relationship that was covered up by 1D management, SIMON COWELL and even me (I promise you I’d have been delighted to report that Harry and Louis were an item if that were the case).
Sadly, Louis admits the pressure from Larry conspiracy theorists was a factor in their friendship struggling, especially given the serious relationship he has with girlfriend Eleanor Calder.He says: “I’ve never actually been asked about it directly. It’s a funny thing.“
"It kind of happened naturally for me and Harry because a certain amount of the fans drew up this conspiracy.
"When it first came around I was with Eleanor, and it actually felt a little bit disrespectful to Eleanor, who is my girlfriend now.
“I’m so protective over things like that, about the people I love. So it created this atmosphere between the two of us where everyone was looking into everything we did.
“It took away the vibe you get off anyone. It made everything, I think on both fences, a little bit more unapproachable. I think it shows that it was never anything real, if I can use that word.”
Louis again refers to Larry’s fan theories as conspiracy theories, and blames the fans involved in these behaviors (again called disrespectful) for the public, notorious separation that happened between him and Harry. This is consistent with the things expressed by Louis throughout the years, and also Zayn, for instance, who claimed fans made impossible for Harry and Louis to be spontaneous and physical with each other while in public. So congratulations, Larries, yet another confirmation that you killed what you loved the most.
31/07/2017: Louis’ denial of Larry Stylinson in an interview with Andy Cohen. As the media picked up The Sun exclusive, Louis was asked again about it, now in USA soil. No more excuses, Larries. Louis want to shut down these theories once and for all.
You can listen to the actual audio with words coming out of Louis’ mouth HERE.
Transcription HERE, but here’s a caption:
Not fans. Not anything, but “these people.” That’s how Louis refers to the people that come up with conspiracies about him. It’s over, people. You are not Louis’ fans if you deny his real relationship and his son. He warned you in 2012. Nothing really new to it. Just more denial coming up from the Larries. As Harry would say, SAD.
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Harry
[Reorganized Aug 2017]
During an interview for 60 minutes Australia, the interviewer tells Harry, “Look, Harry. I’ve got to ask you about this one. This is Famous magazine. This says you and Louis are a couple. There’s pictures of you kissing!”
Liam, Niall, and Harry begin explaining that the pictures are photoshopped and that it has happened to all of the boys.
She then asks Harry, “Oh, really? So you and Louis, there is nothing going on?”
Harry replies with a simple, “NO.“ Yes, Larries, hold on. I’ve heard all of your excuses, and I will address them. But first see it for yourselves, I swear it doesn’t bite:
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Before you say, "Harry had to lean into to make sure they didn’t have actual pictures of them kissing,” let’s talk about the interview where they asked if Harry was having an affair with Obama.
Looks pretty similar to his reaction in the Australian interview, doesn’t it? So, is Harry fucking Obama too? Of course not. If you go up to anyone, claiming to have pictures of them kissing their best friend, they are going to look. It’s just a natural reaction. Keep making excuses.
Also related to this same interview, Larries spread the lie that there is a picture of Harry crying from right after this interview.
NO, THERE IS NOT.
The picture Larries spread around claiming to be of Harry crying are from a completely different interview where he has been sick for a few days. The exact same shot is at 9:13, and it is actually of Harry and Niall laughing. It is not a picture of Niall comforting Harry because he was crying. You can check it for yourselves HERE.
See how deceiving pictures (and Larries) can be?
Let’s move on. Larries don’t acknowledge this denial, and they thought they were lucky enough not to go through the same again due to Harry’s reluctance to talk about his personal life. It was a gift that kept giving until it stopped. It happened again.
In April 2016, a Venezuelan fan asked Harry is Larry was real while facetiming and he said “NO.” It was referred through Twitter by user @kingcasique_ and reported by media in at least this video:
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Sadly, these tweets happened between Victoria, the girl that chatted with Harry, and her friend [I can’t provide a link because the girl has been suspended on Twitter]:
These types of implications are NOT acceptable. NO means NO.
Troubles continued for Larries, because life’s a b*tch for them, since during the promo of his solo career (May/June of 2017,) in which Harry remarked again and again how honest his album was, he was asked if his solo song “Sweet Creature” was about Louis.
So Harry denied Larry again, stating that he would “lean toward NO” in the subject of the song being about Louis. Listen to his reply (starting to speak quite upset) at 00:10:
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Teen Vogue picked it up and you can read the article HERE. But here’s a transcription of the statement for everyone to acknowledge it.
“Lean toward NO” is as much as a categorical statement as a single NO. The word NO is right there. And you respect the word NO, because NO means NO.
Asked about the fan theory a second time in USA Today, Harry said “Oh, is that a thing?," completely snubbing the rumors. And went further: “Well, whatever it is that it makes one feel. But I think if you listen to the lyrics, you can work out what it’s about.” Oh, Harry, you unlucky bastard. You have a tendency to catch hay fever and Larries.
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Louis and Harry
[Added Feb 2017]
HERE is one of the first interviews in which Louis and Harry casually dismiss the rumors about Larry being a romance (the one of the “genuinely believe.”) There’s a politeness, a clear intention not to create drama with the denial, because at the time rumors were just starting to get fueled, but they still weren’t a proper conspiracy theory, as Louis would refer later when talking about Larry. It wasn’t the only time the issue was addressed in a relaxed manner, trying to shut down rumors, but with an intention not to alienate the fans. And here’s another:
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This is what the YouTube poster of the video wrote as a caption:
“I ship Larry, honest I think they are so cute and I would love them to be together... but if they say that its not true, that it is annoying them, going too far or that they are happy with their girlfriends then as fans we should respect that and let them live their lives. If they aren't gay then it will upset them and their girlfriends, and if they are then its obvious that they can't or don't want to talk about it so really either way shoving your opinions in their faces and their family and friends faces doesn't help. I'm not saying you don't have a right to think that or have an opinion, but sometimes you might want to think about who its affecting and respect what they are telling you, whether you believe it or not.”
Enough said.
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Alright. I think I have gotten most of the ones I could find.
I figured I would actually discuss them more in depth since I can kind of predict what Larries will say about it.
First of, yes I do realize people can lie. However, people do not go so far to call Larries vile, deluded freaks, fake fans, disbelievers, deranged, stupid, a lost cause, bitter, lonely, and fucking peasants. They would also not go so far to call the theory of Larry strange, ludicrous, bullshit, weird, as real as the tooth fairy, a fantasy, imaginary, fan fiction, rubbish, and a wasted obsession. (I personally do not believe everything said about Larries was necessarily appropriate, but it happened.)
Like I have said before, if they didn’t want to out Larry, there was no reason to lie. It can simple be avoided.
Second of all, if you believe their family and friends are under contract, go ahead and read these posts:
Larries’ Contract Theories I
Larries’ Contract Theories II
It is not only about Harry and Louis, but that Act protects their loved ones as well.
Also, like I said before, these are all people who have known Harry and Louis all their lives or are very good friends or are people they work with. These are not random people who claim to have met Louis and claim to have been told that he hates Larry or that Elounor is real.
I find it really doubtful that these people would not know the truth, and I think if you are telling yourself that, you need to really think about that.
[Added Aug 2017]
After reading all this, there’s no denial that the only constant in the seven-year-long 1D history has been these people denying the existence of a romantic relationship between Louis and Harry. And I’d dare to say that the only constant in the 1D fandom has been the abuse and harassment they have subjected these persons to because of it.
WORDS MATTER. RESPECT THESE PEOPLE’S WORDS. RESPECT THEIR TRUTH. STOP THE DISRESPECT AND THE ENTITLEMENT.
#larry#larry stylinson#larry denials#louis tomlinson#harry styles#original 1arry-isnt-rea1 masterpost#one direction#1d
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Hi! Hope I’m not bothering you but I’m a little new in the ziam (/larry) um, community? So what do you think about the “ziam levine stylinson” note that was on one of the rainbow bears? I realise that was years ago and hope that you don’t mind me asking, but was that real? Did a fan write it? Levine?? (Love your blog!💖)
hey no worries nonnie you’re not bothering me at all! i love getting asks!
so yeah it was real and a fan did reveal (on twitter i think?) that she was the one who wrote it, i think she like threw it on stage or something like that (sorry i can’t remember exactly and i can’t find the post about her talking about it right now but hopefully someone sees this who can link it)
but anyway the interesting thing is that it still wound up on rbb and stayed on the entire show and we all know who was really behind the bears (if you don’t know nonnie it was louis, based on irrefutable evidence such as his reflection in the bear’s sunglasses in a photo, the fact that the boys all simultaneously turned to him when they got asked about it, and the fact that when asked directly about it he all of a sudden apparently turned into louis ‘what is a bear i don’t know a bear i’ve never known or seen a bear in my entire life oBVioSLY’ tomlinson and denied any kind of involvement so hard you knew it was fake #denialgamestrong) so if you’re one of those who believes that everything the bears did or were seen “doing” or “wearing” is calculated, the question then becomes why would louis put that tag on the bear at all for all the fans to see (knowing ppl were paying very close attention to it by then) and not only that but deliberately leave it there with the note on it proudly on display for an entire show to make sure it got noticed and photographed by thousands of fans if it meant nothing?
he could have just ignored the note and thrown it away, he could’ve not put it on at all, he could have turned it around so you could only see the blank side of the note, he could have even folded it up so only the stylinson part was visible, but he didn’t. he put it on display front and center and left that shit just sitting for everyone to see with the ziam part also clearly in view. and given that not just the blue and green smiley stickers but also the red and yellow ones (ziam colors) and orange (niall) were used quite often (and that rbb did stuff like counted down the end of sophiam literally to the day and possibly predicted the coming of ch*am and babygate 2.0 - i.e. not just larry stuff like some like to think/claim), i think it’s safe to say that a lot of the stuff the bears did was also used to signal ziam as well as general ot5/band bts things too and that that note was a calculated message and a nod to fans confirming what we already knew, which is that ziam is just as real as larry :)
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