#chiam is fake

[insomniziam]

what are your thoughts on zayn and liam being parents? i’m so confused and i want to be as informed as possible but idk where to start

Hey nonnie!

As of right now, I don't believe either of them are fathers. There's too much weirdness surrounding both of their circumstances to believe so.

The fact that Liam apparently planned to start a family with a still married woman he only recently started dating while also jump starting his own solo career doesn't make a shred of sense to me. Neither does the fact that he's missed most, if not all, of that kid's birthdays since the very beginning and can't get simple facts right when asked in interviews.

Zayn's circumstance is a lot more weird considering that G apparently got pregnant right after they rekindled the relationship despite her apparently having Hashimoto's disease which makes it harder to get pregnant in the first place and she was still linked to other men. There was also the fact that her pregnancy bump kept changing size, and even her own father didn't know she was pregnant despite her apparently being four months in...

Then based on the photos we have actually seen of her (because although G might like to preach about privacy for her daughter, she certainly doesn't practice it) the kid looks nothing like him, and basic biology tells us that that doesn't make a shred of sense.

I go a lot more in depth about Zayn's babygate more than I do Liam's just because it's a lot more in your face than Liam's has been for a while. That, and everything I would say on the subject has pretty much already been said. I'll tag both of them though, feel free to have a look at both, I'm sure there are some great posts in there!

[allornothlng]

I will never get over the fact that there are people who think it’s cute that Cheryl met Liam when he was 14 while she was GROWN woman 💀💀

[ziamminds]

Cheryl's name in press yesterday "She has been accused of avoiding paying income tax and national insurance"

Cheryl's name in press today "Liam pays tribute to his "amazing" ex Cheryl"

[ihava1dblognow]

These are the relevant bits which mention Liam from an article called “The Cole Hard Truth” from PopBitch’s Annual.

For a bit of context the article, which is a good read, talks about the different ways media coverage of Cheryl can be approached. They mention Liam in the first section “The Cynics” - people who think everything she does is for publicity (pic 1) and the third section “The Chim Shippers” - people who think she has been in a secret relationship with her Girls Aloud bandmate Kimberly Walsh for over 10 years (pics 2&3).

There’s nothing in the article that’s new information but I did find it interesting that they used the terminology “babygate 2.0″ as well as briefly mentioning Louis and babygate 1.0 as well.

[loveourtimeisnow]

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-moms/news/liam-paynes-tip-on-coparenting-son-bear-with-cheryl-cole/

Teaming up! Liam Payne and his ex-girlfriend, Cheryl Cole, have found a way to make coparenting their 2-year-old son, Bear, work.

“As a dad, I think one of the hardest parts at the start of it all is to feel as involved as possible,” the former One Direction member, 25, told Us Weekly exclusively at the Visa Tap Room presented with Chase on Tuesday, May 21. “One of my biggest tips I would say is cooking, because if you’re cooking and you’re looking after her and she’s looking after [your kid], then you’re looking after everybody. And you want to feel like that part of the unit … so cooking was always a really big thing for me at the start.”

The “Familiar” singer went on to say that he’s “good for breakfast,” and can make “American pancakes, poached eggs, anything.”

He and the former Girls Aloud member, 35, got “really lucky” with a well-behaved baby boy, Payne told Us — although Bear does have an attitude. “Sometimes he’ll sort of have a go at his mum and I’ll be like, ‘Bear , stop it,’” he said. “He just wouldn’t listen to me today. … He just wants to silence me with his hand. He’s like, ‘Just give me a minute. I’m busy.’”

The former X Factor U.K. judge gave birth to the little one in March 2017, and he is already Payne’s mini-me. “My mum brought all my old toys to the house, and then Cheryl came one day to my house and she was like, ‘Oh, he’s playing with this red car all the time. It was yours,'” Payne said. “I was like, ‘Is it a Jaguar?’ And it was my favorite car when I was [young]. So he’s literally like a little me.”

Payne and his ex-girlfriend split in July 2018, and Cole told The Telegraph in April that she may not be done having kids.

“You don’t necessarily have to be in a relationship,” she said at the time. “I’ve got a friend who has had two children using donors. Not everything has to be conventional. You can spend ages looking for the right man, waiting for the perfect time to get pregnant, then the right man might turn out to be the wrong man. There are definitely other routes I would consider.”

[thewriternotthemuse]

On like, a real note, there's a very persistent pattern in this fandom to ship liam with any white man within a hundred yards of him, while ignoring everything about his relationship with zayn. And now that ch*am is dead, we're seeing an up-tick in people who think liam is not straight, and are talking about wanting him to get a boyfriend and kiss a bunch of dudes at pride--not even considering that he may already be in a relationship with a man, namely, zayn. Which feels weird, cause if you do even a little digging, there is definitely enough about ziam to make even a casual fan raise their eyebrows. But people don't wanna dig when it comes to ziam. Ofc, it's partly bc of this fandom's general tendency to not pay much attention to liam. But the other component is definitely zayn being a moc and Muslim, and that's something most people in this fandom don't wanna address, and that'd fucked up fam

[zaynfeatliam]

liam’s reactions

to zayn

to “his child”

to “his gf”

full gifs under the cut

[90sgrungelouis]

funny how this tabloid has such intimate details about such a private couple, how they know all this 'insider information' literally right as it happens. organic, right?

[beseeingyouinmydreams]

Dying at all of y'all thinking cause Chiam "split" that Liam's gay. Sorry about your luck. He still ain't gay and ziam still ain't real 🙄😂👋🏻

[ohthathurt]

Liam literally removed Cheryl’s song from his own playlist. LMAO i checked and he really delete her songs.

Hi anon! Yup lmao here’s a post on that and also here you can see he didn’t even bother downloading her song lmao, sounds like true love to me

[softestziam]

Bye Cheryl

[insomniziam]

Okay I'm ready. I'm the anon from yesterday who lost a whole ass rant. I'm ready to do it again(I'm typing this is the notes app first!!)

So I follow quite few Larry blogs that I love and respect cause they never give any shit about the stunts and defend Harry and louis so fiercely. I really like them for that. But lately they've been getting anon asks about ziam and idk why would people do that?? Like we'd make it very clear if we are ziams. Super crystal clear cause there are few of us(compared to the whole of directioner fandom). Honestly these blogs replied quite civilly like "I don't have any opinion about ziam cause I don't follow them closely" and such which is mature and good. But sometimes after numerous asks things do get heated and they let slip a sentence or two that really hurts. Like someone said the name ziammies is a fucking joke and I know we don't like it either and we'd prefer ziams. But it is so much more different when someone who doesn't believe zayn and Liam say that. And someone else listed all the things that make people believe in Larry and told that for ziam they only know about Zayn posting a selfie with a filter and both of them going blonde after a breakup(?)

It hurts my heart cause there's so much more than that. The casual soft reverent touches. Sharing orange eye ring that Zayn recreated in his like I would mv. Wearing brands that are associated with each other. Zayn fucking tatooing Liam's single cover waaaay before it got announced. Zayn literally having Liam's name and face tatooed on him. The almost kisses. The definite kiss on that dark stage that louis had to transform into on-the-spot cuddle. Eyebrow slits even after all these years. Family's support of the other boys. How they almost let it slip that they got a dog together in 1D day. One missing feather in zayns wing that is conveniently tattooed in Liam's arm with the words I figured it out curling around it. Which are the words to the song you & i which is point blank ziam anthem. It was the only song confirmed by Liam to be played before he let other 1D songs to be chosen by fans to be played at his online gig.

I don't need anyone to validate the "realness" of ziam. They are screaming enough. I'm hearing enough. But I can't tell all these to those blogs cause that bridge is burned and any talk about ziam is soured.

And I can't help but notice this. This is not comparing. I'm a larrie and a ziam. More people recognise Louis' babygate cause it happened with a nobody and people were screaming about his closet. Zayn's happened with a well known model who has a fanbase of her own so she can get away with not showing the baby's face(she "accidentally" revealed it anyway). Jungle family has only he-looks-like-louis-card so they overuse it. Posting baby's pics with ads? Check on both sides. Family members using the baby to promote their life? Check on both sides. Supposed baby mamas posting pics of the baby which gets far more likes than their regular posts? Check on both sides. Zayn likes louis' father announcement post(he rarely likes the boys' pics) and 4 years later louis goes out of his way to like zayns father announcement pic when zouis has never interacted once in those 4 years and there's beef between them?? And that's normal? That's not louis hinting at something amiss with the baby?? That's not enough proof to know that this is babygate 3.0? Liam's is more of a backburner babygate but it's still there. Like he has a baby with reclusive Cheryl and conveniently has one shit Polaroid pic and then bam. She just posts the baby's voice and stuff and that's done?? The common thing btw Liam and Zayn is that they know shit about babies. Liam telling his son can talk good when he was one??? Zayn telling it's really easy to be with a newborn baby?? Sure Jan. This irks me really. Anyway this is my loong looooong rant and I hope this finds you safe :)

Again, I'm so sorry this took me so long to respond to!

I share all of your frustrations, but you can't help people that don't want it, unfortunately, but at least then it's no longer your problem!

Just know that you're not crazy for holding differing beliefs, and you have a legitimate reason to do so. You'll learn that there's no point in having these discussions with people who don't want to listen, and save your time for things you actually love to do!

Again, so sorry this took me so long, I hope you're safe as well! Feel free to come back at anytime 😘

[zeavenly]

He really did THAT!!

[ziamminds]

[liamsmile]

[loveourtimeisnow]

Well it's her last chance to be relevant during the brits so no wonder...