#larry denials

[twopoppies]

https://youtu.be/HxU1_OoHIWQ?si=2lpr5LEIQlBjoaB6

Gina, I just watched this full interview and read the body language analysis, and I have a question: Has Harry ever directly denied larry? I ask because I feel like Louis has always been the one to deny things from the start, while Harry seems to struggle with lying or addressing things directly without being totally honest.

Also, I think Harry's always been the most vulnerable of the five, which is why the other boys were more protective of him (I remember Liam mentioning he's seen Harry cry the most).

This pattern seems to have stayed with Harry post-1D too. He might have become a better liar, but most of the time, he doesn’t answer things directly, especially about his love life. And when he does, his answers are so vague, or his body language gives him away. I’d even say there are more written interviews where Harry talks about his love life than video or radio interviews.

The only time he tried was when that interviewer asked him if Two Ghosts was about Louis. And we all know what a mess that was.

He's really gotten very good at avoiding answering things he doesn't want to answer. It feels like there are certain things he doesn't mind lying about – like upcoming projects or where he goes on vacation or whatever. But he seems to avoid denying Larry or confirming his "girlfriends." The only time he did it was when he referred to "my ex-girlfriend" when talking about Cherry to Zane Lowe (and maybe I'm seeing things, but I swear he looked like he'd practiced that answer in the mirror 100 times before he said it).

That video above is painful to watch. I get so angry when I think about how much they were lied to in order to get them to comply.

[daisiesonafield-blog]

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[savebylou]

Louis about the theory of him dating Harry.

Sharing this because is a matter of time everyone will see the video [São Paulo, g1, posted 08.04.24]

[alarrytale]

But everytime any person close to H/L (a family member/someone they work with) has called us rude names, it has been bc larries have connected that persons personal projects/pictures etc. to suggest something abt larry, when really they are not purposefully hinting at larry bc they can't out them. So in some ways I can't blame them bc it's no surprise it would get annoying to always have your words/art be linked to you supposedly confirming larry. We know they can't do that and get annoyed by that by now so why do some larries feel the need to shove it to them, we should just stay in our own spaces bc otherwise as we know, we just get bashed.

Hi, anon!

No, that's not true. Their friends, family and aquaintances are playing both sides. They do have plausible deniability though, when they hint at larry, but don't come tell me they don't know exactly what they're doing. They know exactly the reaction they provoke in us everytime the post something blue and green, or something everyone and their mother associates with larry. They know.

And also don't tell me they get "annoyed" by us larries. All these people know the real truth, and why we larries act this way. They know the way they have attempted to silence us for over a decade, the hate we are subjected to just for believing two men are gay and in a relationship, the gaslighting, they know.

In addition, all these people are where they are due to H and L's fans. They're basically biting the hand that feeds them. They're also posting their content publicly on social media, for others to interact with, in fandom spaces (their followers are 99,9% fans), so the very least they can do is ignore us larries when we engage with their content, since they can't explicitly validate us. Lashing out at us is intentional, and not because they're annoyed with us.

If they ever find themselves annoyed with us, they should think themselves very lucky not to be in our position, having to be baited by them and then being called names by them for taking the bait... it's pure gaslighting, and it's them doing it.

They're not the victims here, we are. They're the one's who gaslight, act hateful and incite fandom war. They're the one in power here, and who benefits from us being fans of their employer, friend, brother or son. So if we larries fight back, call them out and put millions of 💙💚💙💚💙💚💙, on their posts to spread some love, and make other larries feel safe and seen in a fandom where we are met with hate, they should frankly shut the fuck up, and be grateful we're still around tolerating their behaviour enough to still give them their platform, attention and money for their art, book or sofa they're plugging in their next post...

So every time i see larries blaming other larries for "provoking" friends, family and aquaintances into lashing out at us, take a second and think about if their reaction is appropriate to the "crime" when you consider the consequences. Also, think about if this all is not just backlash from larries that they rightfully deserve for gaslighting and manipulating us...

[rainbowlarentsblog]

I still remember the longing and thirsty looks across the stage, the grazing of the hands, the brushing of the thighs, the craving for that contact that makes you feel like you exist, like you actually make sense, despite the image of you people have in their heads.

I cannot unsee all of that, it is not much the use of colours, the shirts they wear or the lyrics change. It is what I recognise gave me life when I was closeted and couldn’t be open in my love with my partner who was there, next to me, within easy reach.

I can also see this denial as out of place, at an odd moment, looking very much planned but honestly creating more issues for him compared to the ones they thought it may have resolved. There is a reason why H avoids these types of questions and why he just keeps concentrating on his career and ignoring the rest.

If it is just part of the job, why giving it so much thought- I have got many ideas about it, but maybe this is not the time and the place to spell them out.

Someone told me that they probably broke up and he is tired to hear stories about them. I could argue with that, coz if I had ended it with my partner I wouldn’t want to keep bringing our relationship up.

Also as a denial it was very much similar to others he has done in the past and it comes quite late - let’s be honest, as he mentioned, anything he says won’t make much of a difference at this stage. It may piss some veteran larries off and some members the community, but there will be new ones taking their place, some of them possibly more focussed on the theories because less disillusioned than a Larrie who has been a fan for a while.

They are definitely at a different stage in their relationship, they are more mature, more disingenuous and possibly more at ease with their sexuality. As a result they possibly need us less, we could be seen as a hindrance- but in my head and in my heart it doesn’t cancel the reason why I got here in the first place.

I know that they still needs support in their closet and I may be not vocal in theorising if they are still together or if they will come out - and at the end of the day it is their life and they don’t owe us anything- but I will keep enjoying their music, supporting them as artists and be here for them as members of my community, independently from their relationships.

I am truly not perfect though, so if I hide in the corner to lick my wounds and look for the strength to go again, I am sure it is perfectly normal. And I would like to see some kindness on the sm - different people may deal with situations like this in different ways, so let’s not judge or shame someone just because they didn’t react as you would have.

Don’t tell them how they should feel, what they should do, because what is right and works for you doesn’t mean that is right and would work equally effectively for someone else.

[zot3-flopped]

Louis has denied Larry once again!

Interviewer: Many people believe in the theory of you dating Harry Styles even though you describe this theory as ridiculous. Why is this conspiracy so famous?

Louis: What's tough is I've realised - I realised this some years ago - there is nothing I can say, nothing I can do to dispel that conspiracy. They are so intertwined with what they believe to be the truth now they won't actually see the truth for what it is.

I'd be lying if I - it does irritate me a little bit but it's just the nature of the job, I suppose. There are times when it gets a little bit far too personal within that whole space.

I've got my son Freddie; he's the most important person in my life. Occasionally, you know it kind of broaches some stuff that is kind of really unfair. It kind of just is this thing that exists now. There's nothing I can do about it, nothing I can say about it to stop people making up what they want to make up. So, so be it (shrugs)

[seasurfacefullofclouds1]

Just following on from your anon about Freddie etc. I truly don’t understand why the bbg Larries think that in order for Larry to have been real at one point or whatever then Freddie can’t be Louis son. It makes no sense. Like what the hell has Louis having a son have to do with Larry???! They are always the ones crying calling everyone homophobic yet they are constantly denying bisexuality or that any other sexuality exists at all when it comes to Louis. The bottom line is we don’t know and will never will know but for the internet in general to make two lanes one being Freddie isn’t Louis and Larry was or is real and the other being Louis is a deadbeat and homophobic is so ridiculous. Freddie IS Louis’ son and Larry could still have been real at one point in the early band days. What these insane Larries don’t seem to understand is that if they weren’t so insane and nasty Louis most likely wouldn’t even comment on Larry. He literally only does it to defend his son. Like in the last interview he mentioned Freddie and said that when it gets “a bit too personal like with my son Freddie” that’s when it annoys him. If Larries had left Louis’ family and son alone then Louis wouldn’t mention Larry at all he wouldn’t confirm or deny, he just wouldn’t talk about it, just like Harry currently does.

lol anon, Larries aren’t the only ones who think this way. Some solo Louies believe the same thing. Any suggestion that he could have had sex with a woman makes these fans incredibly angry (ask them). The bi-erasure is spot on.

It’s deranged for fans to feel this entitled over a celebrity’s sex life, to bully Louis or other fans into agreeing to what Louis “should be.”

Whenever I read that “2012 was the last time Louis could be himself,” I can’t help but think these fans believe Louis is a comic book character whose key characteristics can be jotted on an index card: “twink,” “sassy,” “flamboyant,” etc. Sometimes when I see adult women carrying 1D Louis or Harry dolls to concerts, i wonder what’s going on in their heads. They’re watching a 32-year-old musician on stage but they wish he’d go back to being 18?

To be fair, I think Harry has blacklisted 1D and Larry questions, and people respect his demands. With Louis, it’s a balance of wanting to crow about his beloved band and defend himself and Freddie. After Liam’s passing, I wouldn’t be surprised if Louis blacklists this topic.

[awesomefringey]

Horse sounds

https://twitter.com/_LilyBlue28/status/1681447526548013056?t=h0iz7jY_hCNZ82wWuENJJQ&s=19

Gemma was sitting at home thinking why the fuck his weird brother didn't just clarify it's about her. 😂

[flopitardz]

any artist in the wardrobe or out of the closet would kill to have a fan base as committed as larries; who wouldn't feel like a god knowing that they would fight for you and with you. And if they're really playing with that, larrybanting, it's horrible. It reminds me of the audio from a few years ago saying he could finally talk to real fans… and that if he denied larry he would be left with no fans. I think the way to run out of fans would be to use them. The fans are going to get tired of supporting and supporting, and are sick of having to put up with stuns, beards, etc and to top it all off being called childish conspiracists, as if it's all just made up for no reason and nonsense. If it started as a game and got out of control, you have to own it. If it was real and you don't want it to be known don't keep giving out signs and codings and feeding all that and then humiliating the fans who read those signs/codings.

[twopoppies]

Hehe this TikTok made me giggle

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSjoTEVnK/

Stopppp. 🤣 especially that clip in the green jacket. Oh my god.

x

[justlarryon]

If Larry news is getting so much traction maybe Harry and Louis could date each other for PR reasons.

[alarrytale]

Every time Louis attacks larrie, the hate in this part of the fandom increases considerably. Do you think he really doesn't care? At this stage of his life, the most important thing is to follow the script and that's it? Thanks Marte

Hi, anon!

You frame this question as if it's something he has control over, and is not contractually obligated to do. As if every denial on social media isn't done by his team/Sony and not him, and as if every denial he's done on camera haven't been awkward, his body language saying something completely different and him trying and failing to actually be convincing.

I do think he cares, i do think he's horrified over the hate we recieve for thinking two men are in a relationship. I do think he hates how he comes off as insecure and homophobic. I do think Sony learned their lessons in not going after a single larrie, but rather go after us as a whole. The skyleridk attack could have ended very differently, and they would have had blood on their hands. If they do go after a single larrie now, they pick someone with loads of support, who can handle it and brush it off. They also try not to make it personal (like the chicken tweet). So Louis/Sony is trying to mitigate the impact on us, even though he has to actually go through with it, in the end. It's about balancing again. Trying to silence and gaslight us larries, but keep us on as fans.

I think denials and Louis going after us larries have outplayed it's role. It's not having an effect at all, we just roll our eyes, laugh it off and it's fueling us and uniting us. They've done it unconvicingly too many times. I think it's more likely they'll try to invalidate and illegitimise us through friends and family. Like Krys*e using an ableist term referring to us. And push bg harder to support the straight narrative. The less Louis hints at larry, the less denials and bg he needs to push. He's toned down the larrying a lot, so the need for denials aren’t currently there.

[rainbowlarentsblog]

All the major tabloids and magazines were ready to publish articles on it, as they did with the chicken conspiracy tweet. It was planned and there will be others.

Even the lgbtq press published the same news. They want the message to be loud and clear and beyond reasonable doubt.

If I was less disillusioned I would believe something was around the corner bound to happen

[larrywerelastseeninthesameroom]

How long has it been since Louis and Harry were last seen in the same room at the same time?

It has been ZERO (0) days.

[moodstabilizr]

there is no hetero explanation to anything louis tomlinson and harry styles have done

[awesomefringey]

Hello Sabine! I have only recently (~half a year ago) joined this fandom, and I have a question regarding people around HL reacting to/speaking about Larries. From old posts I've seen, it used to happen a lot that their relatives or other people like Liam would speak really bad about Larries on SM, even way into the hiatus when they were not with Modest anymore. But ever since I joined, I have not seen one single interaction like that, but more rather things like Gemma's recent story, which seems like they are now even giving subtle hints (of course we don't know if it's meant like that). Do you have an estimate when it was that the Larrie thrashing stopped? Or can you give me a recommendation who on Tumblr would have documented stuff like this and would know? Thanks a lot!! :-)

Welcome to the hell hole, nonnie! 😄💜

I didn’t track all the times people have denied Larry or talked shit about Larries. But it’s fair to say over the course of 1D and beyond, Larries have always been an easy target.

Gemma called people/larries in the comment section of her IG ‘mental’ at some point because they kept flooding her posts about Larry proof. And last year, she debunked old tweets as fake. But I wouldn’t call either Larry denials per se. She just pushed back on Larries quite a bit especially when she was used to back up any theories, which is absolutely fair. See a wonderful and enlightening comment on her motivation here.

Of course, Zayn’s Larry/Ziam denial, and him accusing fans for forcing Larry to show no affection, which was back in 2015.

I remember Liam denying Larry when he was asked by a fan a few years back. I mean, what do people expect him to say? 🤦🏼‍♀️

And well, in 2017, Louis’ “there’s genuinely seriously obviously no truth to it” when asked about the Larry organisation and I couldn’t have asked for a better Larry denial. 😂

Maybe Lou Teasdale was the last one to cackle about Larries during a podcast episode she was invited to back in 2020. Her and Eleanor’s IG and snapchats were involved in a Larrie investigation after Louis’ and Harry’s voice could be heard in the background. I bet she’s never had that much interest in her account before but with the podcast she made sure, people were reminded that she was an idiot.

But beyond that - I don’t know… 🤔

@skepticalarrie @daisiesonafield-blog @twopoppies Do you have tags for Larry denials tags for this nonnie?