#SHE WAS GOING TO GO BACK TO ANAKT
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k9punkout · 1 month ago
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you're telling me they never interacted
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crustyfloor · 6 months ago
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A new pop-up store dropped for ALIEN STAGE's 2nd anniversary and wow. It's so sick.
It's Interesting what exactly these experiments are focusing on and monitoring.
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Instrument practice
I found it interesting earlier that Till was so tame, more so than he usually is when he's going through experiments, but music, and making music is what he loves doing, So he was fully in his element here. This was probably the only thing he was made to do by the aliens that he at least tolerated.
(Additionally, judging by his collar (orange), he was at least calm. maybe he just isn't fazed anymore.)
//Side note, that head contraption looks familiar BUT this most likely isn't related at least i hope
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(It puts me at ease, at least..)
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Dance practice
This surprised me, but I suppose Mizi needed more skills.
She looks very startled here, and nervous(?) +It looks like she's doing this while singing. And with that face covering I assume this was a test monitoring her dance balance, precision, etc. At first, I did think it was odd, "Why would Shine put her through that" But alas I was reminded that even though Mizi is the flower of the group she was never untouchable, to Shine, this was the equivalent of teaching your dog to sit and stay.
(seeing this it reminded me of those scenes in movies where the people are dancing, and the music gets faster and faster until they fall. I wonder if she was doing through something similar to that)
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Singing practice (?)
Similar to Till she also looks quite calm outwardly, if the machine around her neck is an iteration of the collars they have, then this process wasn't something she liked, or given how intense this experiment looks, this was a test of high-pressure to ensure she always stayed calm during performances (?). Then again this could also be a posture practice given all the structure focused on maintaining her position.
(What I believe was another form of this test was shown before so I think so)
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(With her hands in a praying stance I wonder if she was praying to herself or singing a religious song (sweet dream?) It's also interesting that the machinery around her looks like a halo, and she looks so...angelic? holy?)
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Image making practice
By image making, I think they made Ivan replicate expressions with his face. Whether this process was painful for him or not...I'm not sure. But it looked visibly uncomfortable, maybe that was the point. (His expression, even in this circumstance is so dubious..)
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Ivan, among other things, needed to have a spotless appearance to be successful, his image was a priority given his skills were certainly guaranteed.
I assume the aliens eventually took note of his lack of expression, in the real world this can be a detriment to one's career, so the Aliens had to ensure quality was perfect. (To a more...dedicated level)
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Superiority test
'Superiority test' Is very vague.
HyunA is very calm here too, likely sedated in that water with all the tablets on her. I guess this was a test to get an idea of a pet human's strengths and weaknesses, endurance, and temperament to compare and contrast them with others, testing who is more viable for Alien stage?
Another interesting, and sad part about this is that HyunWoo was there, watching his sister through her experiments.
(Also, it looks like both of her legs are normal, no alien leg yet.)
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Heart rate variability
And finally, the most visceral of them all. The wording 'variability' makes this all the more sickening, the Aliens were testing his heart hours, testing it at different rates, speeds, and states. And he was in agony the entire time. Even the way he's clutching his chest, it gives me chills. This would've been a completely harmless test in a normal setting, as something quite similar to this can be performed efficiently in real life. But he's being tortured in the process.
This is one of the first times we've ever seen Luka's face so truly clear and unprotected, (understandably so.) He's even crying.
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odysseys-blood · 1 month ago
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i keep going back to this page bc the mix of emotions on her face is so. like its not an expression you'd make if you were just taunting someone she looks hurt by what she just said but that little discomfort is fine because she can just move on and continue her performance to ease everyones tension. hyuna you make me ill.
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eggonthemoon · 10 months ago
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Alien Stage Round 6 Character Analysis and Lyrics Breakdown
Okay so obviously spoilers, don't click Keep Reading if you haven't watched Round 6.
God fuck it's so fucking beautiful, where do I start?
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I don't even know what is going on with those rapid shots of what I assume is some form of experiment that Till was involved in. I have no clue what the goal was or if it succeeded but somehow (for no real reason other than that one image of Luka standing behind Till ominously) I feel that Luka is involved with it.
Was this an attempt by Heperu's (Luka's guardian) rival to make a human capable of going up against Luka? Till being the youngest and Luka being the oldest also means that Till's guardian could have caught on to what Heperu was planning to do with Luka and then start experimenting on humans shortly after and it would still somewhat line up with the timeline.
But I'm getting into conspiracy territory, back to suffering!!
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Allow me, to the tips of your fingers
Allow me, to the ends of your feet
Dissolve me in your gaze
I don't want to let you go
Oh this hurts. Seeing him look so defeated and exhausted, you can tell that even though to the public it's not certain whether Mizi died or not it doesn't matter to him. Because she's still gone away from his world, where he is unable to reach her. He wants to dissolve and die but he also doesn't want to let her go if there is even a sliver of hope that she lives.
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Please, leave me scars
Please, hurt me so that
Not a single drop of me remains
Let me drown in you
The footage that plays to these lyrics really show how defeated he is. He refuses to sing, his passion for the art completely dead and buried. And (his guardian I assume) when someone shoves the fact that Mizi is gone in his face he lashes out and punches one of the aliens near him.
Until these falling stars
Are buried in the blur of time
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However his heart isn't entirely in it and is quickly apprehended.
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He is beyond exhausted and doesn't even protest or put up a fight while (the same alien he punched btw) another alien runs their fingers through his hair.
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On your icy lips
Read my soul
Yes, my soul
He hopes that even if Mizi is dead that her spirit watches over him, seeing his soul and by extension, Him, for all that he is. Every thought and breath until he falls asleep is for Mizi.
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But didn't we already know this is how he'd be like? Time for something juicier~
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Even if your cold words
Carve scars beneath my eyes
May they linger on your tongue
You can break me apart
God this is heart shattering. Even if Till doesn't care for him, even if Till throws hurtful words his way, Ivan will still lie awake at night, cherishing what sliver of attention he is given. It doesn't matter if Till hates him, because as long as he is on Till's mind Ivan is happy. He is entirely in Till's hands, capable of being build up or torn down depending on how much (or how little) he is perceived by him.
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Notice my pain
And mend me right now
To quiet my fears
I'll drown in you
He wants so deeply to be seen by Till, noticed. Till who doesn't let anything hold him down and always picks himself back up became a pillar of hope and strength to Ivan. It didn't matter how or in what context he gets to be seen, so he went out of his way to provoke him just to get Till to look at him even for a moment.
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This was mentioned a while back on VIVINOS Patreon but the entire incident where Mizi and Till got attacked by that hound monster was orchestrated by him. I feel like there is two possible reasons for this depending on when in the timeline this takes place.
Either he wanted to test Till's resolve in hopes of being proven wrong about his courage (after all your hopes can't be dashed on the rocks, if you never had hopes to begin with) only for his obsession to end up growing even stronger than before.
Or he tried to let Till get roughed up enough that he'd be transferred (solitary confinement? emergency room?) somewhere else away from the others at Anakt, so they could escape together.
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But we all know how that turned out.
Either way what Ivan wants isn't freedom, he's long since given up on that. There's no point in his freedom if the person that inspired him to yearn for it isn't by his side. He needs Till there, his very presence to reassure him that no matter what Till won't falter. But he failed to take account of the one thing that weakens Till's resolve.
Mizi.
Mizi is to Till what Till is to Ivan. And so without Mizi in his world Till crumbles. Since Till will only go where Mizi is and Mizi already gave away her heart to someone else, it's impossible for Ivan to be free while keeping Till in his world.
And so he follows him, resigning himself to a life without freedom.
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Sick of these nights to come
To be engulfed in silence
But the distance between them is killing him, and each and every day they come closer to their inevitable doom.
It doesn't matter if they believe the lie the aliens told them, that if they die singing they will be blessed. Because what is the point in that? How can going somewhere far away from the people they love be a blessing?
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In your gaze where I am seen
Consume me
Yes, me
His desires mirror Till's. He wants his soul to be seen by him, recognized for his undying love for him. He wants Till to see that he can give him all that Till yearns for in Mizi and more.
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To this everlasting melody
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Face to face we dance
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And yet Till still refuses to look Ivan in the eyes.
Things get a little unclear but since they aren't shown singing here and there's no flashback to accompany the lyrics, we can assume that at this moment Till most likely gave up on singing.
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With our story
Lost in forever's embrace
I'm not sure if Ivan intended this from the start or if it's a decision he made then and there but one thing is certain. If Till stops singing then that would mean he forfeits, he'll lose. Till has never once given up. Even when he went back for Mizi that night, he never intended to leave her in the first place. But now without her he crumbles.
And Ivan can't let that happen, not like this.
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Moral grey area aside, this scene is so deeply moving to me
And I don't say that in a romantic context, absolutely not. This is something much deeper than just love. This is the culmination of everything they've been through, all those moments lead up to this.
Because this isn't a kiss.
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This is Ivan throwing his life away for Till.
Till was going to loose, the only thing that could overturn that is if his opponent attacks him. The kiss was to distract Till and keep him from catching up to what Ivan was planning.
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Just look at the contrast between their first and second kiss. As soon as the score board shows Till is in the lead, he gives him a gentle peck on the lips. The contrast is stark and full of meaning. This was the genuine kiss, hidden behind a smokescreen of aggressive bravado created from the previous one.
And it worked. Till was completely convinced that Ivan's intentions was to kill him, and he was fully intent on letting him.
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I know a lot of people doubted his intentions. Because he didn't let go of Till's neck the minute he saw their scores, a lot of people assume that this was Ivan trying to drag Till down with him.
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But the minute he coughed up blood what does he do?
He smiles.
and let's Till go.
He's only human. He might know logically that Till has won the match. But emotionally he refuses to let go until he is certain.
Until he knows for a fact that he is the one bleeding and dying he'll keep up his charade.
And then.
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And only then.
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Till truly sees Ivan.
As he dissolves in his gaze.
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tillsfan · 1 month ago
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now i really see how she saw herself in mizi. mizi also had that blind desperation to save others, like how she dove into trying to save till without thought, despite being told it was useless.
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hyuna was the same way at first. she tried to go back to anakt with one leg with the notion to save them. it was impossible. she lost her childish desperation, and seeing mizi struggle with the same energy she had previously, motivated hyuna to save her. their stories of being recruited to the rebellion are similar too.
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hyuna wasn’t seen as much at first, she was seen as some childish idiot. mizi wasn’t much at first either. mizi was shattered by the recent events of sua’s death, letting her childish emotions take over. they both wanted justice, or rather vengeance, so they acted irrationally. hyuna was saved because of what the previous leader saw in her, and hyuna saved mizi for the same reason. she saw something in her.
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reality hit hyuna hard, she doesn’t childishly jump into saving people because she believes it’s impossible to save everyone (hence trying to stop mizi from saving till) but mizi still has that part of her. ooogh hyuna you make me so sad. hyuna became more mature at the expense of her optimism.
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i also really like how this comic went a little deeper into her drinking problem. drinking and other substances are obviously how she copes, and i think this shows her slight childishness peeking through.
hyuna doesn’t have a mature facade, she simply has two parts of her—the child and the one who left the child behind. this is what MAKES her matured and mentally strong.
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muchanmocha · 2 months ago
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New theory piggy-backing off their shot-in-the-neck execution = "claiming" their voice for Anakt:
Getting shot in the neck is considered an honor.
It is part of the honor of losing on Alien Stage, in conjuction to being blessed.
In Round 5 we see this:
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They've secured a feral Mizi.
In the back, one of the guards has their hand up to their ear like they've reported the situation and is waiting for instructions.
'What do we do with her?'
'Put her down.'
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Mizi was going to be shot in the head because she violated the sanctity of Alien Stage. Not only did she stop singing, she attacked another contestant, almost killing their most prized pet-human at that.
So she isn't treated like a blessed contestant anymore.
She's treated like a rabid dog.
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merlucide · 2 months ago
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HAIRCARE!~♪
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notes: ‘this alien stage x reader was sponsored by free time in the car’😌
characters: all characters
warnings: cursing, not edited/proofread (idgaf)
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She’s always had long hair, and has always preferred it this way
She does her very best to keep the tangle free- but at the end of the day it’s full of knots
This is why she loves hair days!
She’ll lay down on your lap and be all happy with your fingers combing through her pretty long hair
It helps her unwind from the day, it’s because apart of her daily routine ig :3
She just likes talking to you about whatever
Then when’s she’s had her full of love and affection she’ll pamper you endlessly heh
Loves twirling your hair around and making up hairstyles
She can do anything you want for the most part! She’s a bit messy but it always looks good :3
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She doesn’t style her hair really, aside from combing it or putting it in a pony
When her hair was longer fans had you put it in braids then :3
Honestly she doesn’t like people touching her hair, gets it all greasy and messed up yk?
But she doesn’t mind if you’d like to play with hers time to time :)
At your time at anakt you’d both sit underneath the trees there and try to intertwine the flowers into her hair.
Sua was better at styling flowers than you were tho heh
She likes twirling you hair around her finger :3
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You could look at Till and think ‘he dgaf about his hair’ —but he actually does gaf 😭🙏 he wants to look cool okay?? His hair is important to him 
He takes like 5 minutes in total making sure his hair looks good lmao
It’s just perfectly messy ya’know? :3
He likes brushing your hair
It’s very soothing for him
If he’s feeling creative he’ll experiment around with different styles but mostly just brushes lmao
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Don’t gaf about his hair
But he has to gaf about his hair 😔 sad thing
Gotta keep that image up yk 🥲
Normally he just combs through it and calls it good (on a normal day anyways)
Likes it to look pretty neat tho
He likes making a rats nest of yours though!
Kidding, kidding (kinda..)
Likes ponytails:)
But yeah he just fucks up your hair for fun basically
True love? 
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Oh boy 💀 THIS diva
As the star that Luka is, his appearance is the most important aspect of his product (well following after his voice but YK-)
Bro has a curl routine n all
I mean he’s basically an influencer?? in a way?? So id imagine he gets free stuff
Anywho he’s a scruncher then he uses that curl thing (I’ll look it up later)— It’s a process
Prefers you not to touch his hair, will smack your hand away LMAO
But when’s he’s utterly exhausted and burnout he’ll put your hand on his head (if he has the energy too anyways)
Lukas not like 😭 an affectionate person anyways?- well it’s weird? He’s touchy but not, affectionate
Ya get it?
He might twirl your hair around but that’s kinda it 😭🙏 hate to be a dream destroyer
Well I’ll give some crumbs…heh..heh
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When you two are lying alone in bed together— wether it’s after a photoshoot or what not, he’ll like creep up behind you and start caressing you hair
It’s a bit uncomfortable at first because you can just FEEL him burning holes into the back of your head while twirling your hair 😭🙏 sweating n shit
It’s relaxing for him anyways, when he’s tired but not ready to sleep yet yk
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Hyuna 🤤 hair goals fr fr
She usually just has it down or in a high pony/braid tbh
Her hair is LONG AF and is such a pain to deal with so I’d imagine she just puts it up and calls it good
She washes her hair like once a week anyways (the shower is full of grime JUST from her hair 😭🙏)
She dgaf (yesss Hyuna 🥹🗣️)
She’s really great at braiding!! When she decided to put her hair in a braid one day you would NAWT shut up about how she needs to have it styled like that more often (and she did hehe)
Hyuna also collects trinkets— whenever she goes out on raids/bounties or wtv she picks up/steals (LMAO) anything that catches her eye (Like a crow! heh)
She always brings smth back for you, any shiny things go to you, only the best for her babe 😌
Now!- when you asked her to braid your hair you brought up the trinkets suggesting that you put it in the braids- like as accessories!!
And she liked that idea vv much ofc and planted little coins and charms tied into your hair :3
Your head legit looked like a crows nest lmao
But it looks so pretty!! Two fishtail braids with shiny things in your haiirrrrrr!
She was proud af of her work 😌
You both went person to person showing off your head lol
DEWEY (I love him plsss)
His head is full of tangles, but he insists it’s just apart of his ‘look’
His really not picky with his hair- just prefers redoing his roots before they get too-too grown out yk
Which of course you always help him!
He sits on the floor criss-cross in his white tanktop and sweats while you mix the blonde dye
He stays still for the most part, but gets antsy staying in the same position for too long
He justs yap your ear off while you apply the color loll
“Yah so, I tried 85 arm-curls which that went friggin’ awesome as expected-“ “Yeah then Isaac went blackout drunk- Ha it was hilarious” “I think the showers broken ‘cause when I turned it on purple shit came out-“
Since his hair is all sticky and wet he like makes his hair stick  straight up lmao😭
Tries to convince you to use the left over dye on Isaac lmao
While he waits for it to dry he begs you to let him do your hair
He tries to do a Dutch braid, but fails lmao
“WHY ISNT YOUR HAIR WORKIN’?!”
And ur like ?! Everything good back there ?!
He keeps trying until your hair is a literal rats nest lol
He just looks at his mess like ‘oh shit’
Ur so pissed at him and he’s like: 🥺
So he just brushes out the mess he made lol
Which it freakin hurt bc OWWW KNOTS
After it’s all brushed out he just did a basic braid and called it good lmao
Then you take him to the showers to rinse it out and in fact- purple did come out
Probably should’ve thought about that before you stuck his head under the shower head heh..
You ended up using the sink in the bar and everyone just sorta was like ‘uh, okay’
Just imagine Dewey laying on the counter with his head in the sink lol- def stained the counter
Bro shakes his head like a dog to dry off, THEN gets a towel
Smh
In reward for you hard work he gives you a big fat smooch heh
Then goes around base to show everyone his hair lmao
Successful hair dyeing day with Dewey id say!
(Dewey j love you please I need more of him yall PLEASE.)
ISAAC (I LOVE YOU TOO!!)
I mean he just puts his cap on and calls it a day sooo
Really couldn’t give two shits about it lmao
Doesn’t care if you mess around with his hair, so might as well go for it :3
You tried putting his hair into a piggy tail, which his hair is so short so it just kinda, stuck out 😭
He really does love playing with your hair :) it’s actually rlly cute he’ll be talking to a member and just be playing with your hair (the thought gives me butterflies gets me mushy SOB)
by the time he’s done talking to the person there’s like 6 little braids in your hair on on side 😭🙏
Best hair time w/ him is when yall are fucked up and tied from raiding and just lay together, you most likely on top of him
And he just holds ya and plays with your hair 🥹
Yall talk about the day, or some things you’ve been thinking about, just quiet words yk? :)
(Stop I’m like tweaking thinking about this wtf)
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help so sorry for how short Till+Ivans is 😭🙏 no creative juice came for them (and I wrote theirs last so yk…)
Made December 20th 2024
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asteriass · 4 months ago
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Till & smoke bomb parallels ++ Ivan & cameras flowers parallels!!
Based on this tweet by xivering on twitter pointing out the the similaries
[Because I think there are legitimate parallels that can be drawn from this. I don’t think it’s a pure coincidence (ESPECIALLY not in Till’s case which is a literal exact one to one). I’ll explain!!]
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Part 1: Till and the grenade
The grenade was a smoke grenade. It acted as a barrier - it produced a smoke screen, allowing Mizi to trick the Alien and act sneakily (To get in)
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The grenade shares eyes with Till, Till was also similarly anxious, sweating as his face was gently held in Mizi’s hands, and staring back at her
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And then Mizi pulled the trigger on the grenade, forcing a smoke screen that tricks the Alien and conceals what’s actually going on from view. Same with Till! Till’s hand going limp is perhaps a narrative smoke screen!! To trick the aliens, to conceal whats actually going on between them
AFTERALL, we see her tell him something, but we don’t know what. She holds him gently and is perhaps forcing him to action, even a small one, to trick the audience. So that his faintly beating heartbeat goes unnoticed under their increasingly loud cheers.
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The louder they’ll cheer in excitement about the finale, the more it shows how much increasingly preoccupied in their bliss they are to properly notice the trickery happening right under their noses (Just like Mizi’s earlier trick)
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Part 2: Ivan & the Anakt Garden flowers
The concept of character eyes being similar to alien eyes which then together serve a greater narrative parallel extends to Ivan too. Thus further strengthening the notion that it means SOMETHING!
Ivan was always observing others closely (in particular Till), just like the flowers observe the Anakt children.
[I remember the first time me and my friend were talking about the flowers possibly being for observation we talked about in it alongside Ivan’s eyes, & also his tendency to observe and stare lol, because the flowers’ eyes specifically drawn to be very similar to Ivan’s when they are recording. (And then 2 weeks later we were proven right hahahhaha ahem…)]
(Anyway) And yet from what we know of the information the flowers have gathered on the children, a lot of it is pretty surface level, it's never able to observe or record things like a person's true mindset. It only sees what the children are outwardly showcasing. It will never understand what goes on deep within these children’s minds, their true thoughts and opinions. Just like Ivan was never able to truly observe and gather his impact on Till and what he truly viewed Ivan as in his mind. Ivan thought to Till he wouldn’t matter.
He closely observed Till, but he was never able to fully gather what goes in Till’s mind. He wasnt able to gather Till’s true mindset, his views, his opinions (on Ivan). Till outwardly showcases apprehension at times, so it was easy for Ivan to gather and observe that, but he wasn’t able to see that Till did internally consider eachother “close”, that Ivan will have an impact on him.
And just as the flower was crushed while serving its duty, having observed what it did but never beyond it Ivan too was "crushed" while “”serving his duty”” (saving till), but he never got to observe how much of an effect his death would actually have on Till.
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And so… i truly do think that making these eyes the same exact colors were purposefull. And thus supports the notion that Mizi (& Till) are “””tricking””” the aliens (and thus the viewer) too. That they’ve purposely put up a “smoke screen”….
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shakingparadigm · 10 months ago
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Speaking of Guardians, I'm just going to make a list on the information I have on the ones associated with the main cast so far.
Note: the information here is mostly from official material (patreon interviews, merch, the videos themselves etc) but some portions of it are my own assumptions based on this information as well.
Mizi -> Guardian Shine
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Guardian Shine is a prominently pink and white alien that wears a peaceful expression and bears resemblance to certain aquatic creatures, most predominantly associated with the jellyfish. Their body largely consists of floaty pink frills.
Guardian Shine is the only alien of the main cast that is explicitly stated to have a close and loving relationship with their human pet, treating Mizi like a "daughter" and ensuring that she is happy and well-provided for.
Guardian Shine created Mizi's performance dress for ROUND 1.
It seemed that whenever Mizi accomplished something good in the Anakt Garden, she would become ecstatic and excited to tell Guardian Shine about her victories.
Sua -> Guardian ???
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Not much is known or seen about Sua's Guardian (the information isn't public, at least), but from the glimpses we see in MIZISUA, her Guardian is a rather luxurious and feminine alien with clawed, ring-laden hands and a lower half akin to a flower-patterned dress. It seems as though they are wearing a pale-colored fur coat.
In the disc:mizisua artbook, its stated that Sua was raised by influencers, which seems to be why her Guardian is dressed so lavishly.
Sua's Guardian did not particularly care for her, only raising her as a means to "show off".
While Guardian Shine warmly entertains Mizi before her departure, Sua's Guardian has their back turned and is instead busied with an interview (as seen by the alien holding the microphone next to them).
Because Sua's Guardian didn't care for her and only raised her for public image, they dressed Sua in doll-like clothes without care as to how it would fit her. The book states that despite it's lovely look, Sua's dress was stuffy and ill-fitting.
Till -> Guardian Urak
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Guardian Urak (in earlier iterations) is a humanoid alien with a predominantly white color scheme, most recognizable by a covered upper face and floating chair. (I highly suspect the alien from ROUND 6's first verse to be the new Guardian Urak design, but I could be wrong.)
Similar to Sua's, Guardian Urak seems rather neglectful and maybe even physically abusive to Till, as seen by the multiple bruises left on him even before he's thrown at the wall. If the head alien in ROUND 6 is confirmed to be Urak, this is further proven by the first few scenes.
In an interview for a magazine portion of ROUND 2, Guardian Urak is shown to be easily dismissive of Till's misbehavior as long as it garners them a win.
Guardian Urak believes that a human's bizarre behavior is synonymous with their talent. "The more talented humans, the more likely they are to be freaks." Urak apologizes for Freddie's murder on Till's behalf, but doesn't seem to care about it beyond the surface level.
Urak barely seems to invest much into Till, at least not as much as the other Guardians do for their own pets. Till's stage in ROUND 2 is the most plain, unlike the other rounds where the stages are unique and decorated with different designs and lights. Till's outfits are also the most plain among the cast.
Ivan -> Guardian ???
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Ivan's Guardian is a large, slightly Cthulhu-like alien dressed in dapper clothing, which many fans find akin to that of a mafia boss. They are dressed in colors of mainly red and black, a color scheme that their followers seem to align with as well.
Ivan's Guardian is well-known in alien society. Due to this, Ivan makes sure to behave carefully and properly while out in public as not to sully their name.
It also seems as though they are incredibly wealthy, seemingly involved in a business of some sort.
Ivan describes the relationship with his Guardian to be more like a business partnership rather than something parental.
Ivan's Guardian seems to have invested a lot into Ivan's success. Adopting him from the slums, cleaning him and remaking his image from a lowly slum child to one of the most famous, talented, and influential humans of the current season. Ivan states in an interview that he will always be grateful to them for taking him in.
Due to the investment, Ivan's performances are always of high quality, his costumes intricately made and his stages flamboyantly themed.
Since their relationship stands on business, it's most likely that Ivan was able to connect and partner with several brands due to his Guardian.
Ivan's relationship with his Guardian seems mutual, Ivan himself states it's "not bad". His Guardian provides him with what he needs to succeed and in return Ivan is obedient and always excels at what he's assigned to do. It seems as though Ivan's Guardian is often pleased with him, patting his head when he passes preliminaries and gathering other aliens to celebrate. One of the aliens even presents a bouquet of flowers, clapping their hands together.
Luka -> Guardian Heperu
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Guardian Heperu is an alien with a round, squat head, bulging eyes and a pronounced neck. They seem to don a robe of some sort, paired together with a small hat.
Guardian Heperu seems to be yet another influential figure in alien society, possessing the resources necessary to invest in Luka's intensive training.
They also ensure that Luka's performances are always phenomenal, going so far as to rent out a special site for ROUND 5 (iirc, they performed ROUND 5 on the corpse of a large and powerful alien, hence the spine and bones you can see in the back of certain shots).
Guardian Heperu is an extremely envious figure who wished for a pet to trump all others, to stand above all the competitors unmatched.
Luka's unnatural conception and strict training is a result of Heperu's insecurity, the need to remain at the top constantly. Perhaps this desire ended up seeping into Luka as well.
Luka never fought back against the aliens, most likely because Heperu conditioned him to be the epitome of performative perfection since birth. How Luka interacted with his fellow humans was irrelevant, what mattered was how he interacted with the aliens who's opinions were of far greater worth. This may be why Luka seemed to be an outcast in the Anakt Garden yet a beloved prince in the eyes of the alien audience.
Luka directly refers to Heperu as "Father".
Hyuna -> Guardian ???
So far, Hyuna is the only character without even a sliver of alien connection. It makes sense, of course. She cut herself off from everything so long ago.
However, a sketch of Hyuna's alien was drafted all the way back during the production of Sweet Dream.
I'm not gonna spoil anything, but let me just say that's one hell of an alien.
Hopefully we get to see them soon!
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quiescentem-puella · 1 month ago
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Till's expressing himself through clothing – a rant
today's sad alnst thought of the day is that no matter how you view round 6, I think it's undeniable that ivan was able to give back to till a piece of himself that he lost after witnessing round 5
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I think Till outfits are important when it comes to discerning his mental state/attitude, both because of plot-related reasons (imo Till has a degree of power over deciding or at least selecting his clothes) and also character design (in a media like alnst, where most things are said by showing them, it's clear that vivimeng put lots of thought behind the visuals). We know nothing about the behind-the-scenes between r6 and r7, so we can just LOOK at Till to see if something changed
I said that Till has some power over his outfit choices because he's the only one who personalizes them, or so it looks like. It's very much in Till's rebellious nature to vandalize his outfits and I think both the r2 outfit (the spray-painted t-shirt, the patch hiding his branding, the lack of shoes) and the scene we see in the top 3 video (with graffiti all over the room and paint all over him) are proof of that. He's always shown drawing and doodling, so i think it's a fair assumption that when we see that on his clothing, it's his handiwork.
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And that... disappears in round 6. Whether we look at his outfit in the actual round or when he's entertaining segyeins, he's dressed in muted, dark clothing. Very put together for his previous standards, almost elegant with his delicate, silver accessories (thin chains and tasteful earrings)
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Gone is the asymmetry and the rage. Till is mourning and so he dresses for a funeral... either for Mizi (who's gone and presumed(?) dead) or for himself (without Mizi, he has no reason to keep going. he entered alien stage and stayed in anakt for her). Whether he 1) chose his outfits before and let the aliens take over in his grief or 2) fought the aliens on previous outfits to personalize them and stopped after r5, i think in both cases his clothes show how much he has given up
and then we have round 7
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First of all, the color is back. Acid green and white pants. The tech gear too, in place of delicate chains. The hair is slicked back, similar to the scene out of stage in r6, but it doesn't feel as tamed
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and i apologize in advance for the frame i'm about to use to prove this point (only scene we see till full figure in r7) but
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THE SPRAY PAINTING CAME BACK!! on the pants!! Personally I think both the red and the two stripes are Till's addition, you could argue that the blood isn't bc it's just the pants done like this but it looks handmade to me, splotchy. Very likely to be Till's hand.
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So going back to my initial point: something has changed between r6 and r7. In r7, Till FIGHTS with everything he has. He doesn't let Luka speak over him, he tries his best. He falters, but he enters the stage with a spark, a determination that was notably absent in r6
I think it's significant that we get this in Mizi's pov
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because Mizi RECOGNIZES Till. Not in the sense that she didn't know it was him, but in the sense that it's the Till she knew from anakt: wild, rebellious, hateful towards the system. He's raging and screaming, putting on a wild performance.
And Ivan's sacrifice is what gets him like this. It allowed him to live, of course, but if we read deeper there's also something else. In r6, it's the first time we see Ivan openly defying the segyeins. It's pretty obvious that he didn't have the love Mizi had for them and he disobeyed multiple times (running away with Till is the prime example), but he put on a façade all the time. I would say it's exactly what allows him to get away with so much: he's so well-behaved that no one suspects him. He has no leash because, in the segyeins' eyes, he never tried to escape (and he never will, bc just like Till will choose to go back to Mizi every time, Ivan will stay for Till as well).
The only times we see him rebelling is: 1) the scene on the rooftop when he was still in the slums; 2) in r6, when he defies all expectations and "cheats" so that Till wins
Ivan fell in love with Till after seeing how defiant he was. And Till regains his spark, his will to rebel, after Ivan's sacrifice, when he chooses to publicly go against the aliens for the first time since he was a child.
i've seen a lot of talk about how Ivan was Till's downfall: because Till cared much more than Ivan thought, because Luka used that moment with Ivan (and not Mizi) to bring him down. It's all true and very tragic, but I think it's really important to note something else too
Till was able to be himself again (even if just for the span of a single song) because of what Ivan did. Ivan's act of love wasn't wasted.
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bluemoonscape · 1 month ago
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After today's Hyuna comic, I don't think I've ever loved her more.
It strikes me how startlingly selfless she is. The 4nakt group - Mizi, Till, Ivan, Sua - all of their performances are charged with a passion and love for one another. Luka and Hyuna's performances stand out in this way because they aren't singing for love. Luka sings to win. Hyuna sings not because she has to anymore, but because she wants to.
When she breaks out into that spontaneous performance in the comic to rally the other rebels while Jacob is gone, it looks like it's almost physically painful for her. How could it not be? The lyrics tease shows us that she lost her leg escaping Alien Stage. She lost her brother in Anakt Garden. Singing was probably so tainted for her.
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But she did it anyway. Time and time again, Hyuna's entire world falls apart. Hyunwoo died, and thus, he and Luka were both gone to her. Her illusion of safety was ripped from her. She was gravely wounded in her escape. She couldn't save the other kids. She lost Jacob, who was like a brother to her - she lost a second brother. Anyone else would crumble utterly.
But Hyuna didn't. Every time, she gets back up. She fights no matter what. She takes back every little bit of her life that she lost in her own way with hands torn bloody from holding on and avenges it. She's painfully selfless, she literally gives her voice, her life, to those around her to try and save them, or even just to lift them up for the moment. It makes me wonder whether that ties into her relationship with Luka, too - he seemed so alone in Anakt Garden without Hyuna and Hyunwoo. Could she have seen him and thought, I can save him, that thing inside of him?
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Hyuna's life is a sum of all the people she couldn't save. She couldn't save Hyunwoo. My fault. She couldn't save Luka. My fault. She couldn't save those kids. My fault. She couldn't save Jacob. My fault. My fault, my fault, my fault.
Yet she continues to try. After all of that pain, she still saved Mizi from her round against Luka and freed her. She tried to save her by holding her back from going after Till during Round 7 because she knew that Mizi was doing exactly what Hyuna had done time and time again, and she already knew what the outcome would be. She had gone against Luka. She had gone against the Segyein. She knew Till couldn't win. Mizi couldn't win.
She tried to protect her, just like Sua tried to protect Mizi, right up until the minute she couldn't shield her from the truth anymore.
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This brings me to the apparent song for next episode, Wiege. Cradle. Hyuna's cradle was ripped from her, so she tries to be the cradle for others. The safety. The savior.
But now she has to face the music. She can't save Luka if he doesn't want to be saved. She can't save Mizi because Mizi made her choice. Maybe she can't even save herself now.
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This round is going to be a hell of a time and no I am not ready like ever
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aakaneeee · 2 months ago
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well people. . It's time, aka Akane's monthly revival because there's Luka content. And gosh do I have a lot to say about this. Except.. I'm not going to market these as theories, but as predictions. I think as an og fan I've seen enough to be this confident in my abilities LOL
Quickly, I'd like to address the lyrics and the title, because I will reference it later and I don't want to have to explain mid-prediction.
Wiege has two meanings, and both are so fitting:
1. Cradle. It feels.. perfect, for me. It makes so much sense. Luka was a cold child.. but I'd like to say only physically. I feel like he genuinely warmed up towards Hyuna and Hyunwoo as a child. And I'm going to bring an idea that might get me a bit of backlash but.. I've gotten worse, and that is, that Hyuna is at fault for Luka's approach on his feelings. (Audience boos) From the little we know about Hyunwoo, I feel like Hyuna treated both him and Luka.. at least a little bit similarly. Or at least, Luka couldn't discern a difference, if there was any. Luka is a tube baby, he probably doesn't know (and I am not babying him here, I'd like to add!) what "siblings" he has. For him, affection might just be all and the same. Yes, it wasn't Hyuna's responsibility to teach him, but I feel like a hint was there "Your life is mine", and she could've explained, in a way. But, back to our discussion, Hyuna was Luka's cradle. She burns as bright as the sun, while he's colder. But most importantly, she was his only true friend (Considering I don't think his relationship with Hyunwoo was extremely close, even though they were 'friends'), someone he thought truly cared about him. Hyuna was Luka's cradle, holding him close, comfortable... until at one point, he outgrows that cradle (Hyunwoo's death).
And the second meaning, beginning. In the picture we got, Luka is centered, he's in the middle.. but he's so small, and overshadowed by the tree. Luka is the best performer of the ANAKT, always first, but has no friends. But perhaps, he was better that way. Then, Hyuna comes, and it's a new beginning. He's finally not alone. What I've noticed in the new banner, Luka is missing, but across the tree trunk, in his place, is a taller shadow. Perhaps, a shadow of who Luka was, hopefully still left in there. Or, the other way around, it symbolizes his real self being left there.
And the lyrics:
When I close my eyes,
Play in paradise.
These, to me, remind me of the interview where Luka said his favorite game was hide and seek. In a way, his whole ANAKT life was a game of hide and seek: hiding all the time, but no one trying to seek him. Until Hyuna did, and found him. Something that intrigues me is the "paradise", which to me sounds like what Mizi once said: Dying in competition means returning to the Great Anakt, which I suppose is to them like Heaven.. or Paradise. This will be important later, so remember it.
And now, my predictions for the HyuLuka episode
! First of all, I think the song will be lullaby-like. When I first saw this teaser, with the lyrics, as weird as it sounds, it reminded me of Richard's song in The Hero in TAWOG, a song that always gets me to cry for some reason, and I've been really stuck on that . It would be interesting, because it would fit Luka's voice (as does everything else), but probably not Hyuna's, even though 6FU; would eat it.. which to me, sounds like their "love", where Luka loves her, but it isn't returned. I'd love to see more German in it than just in the title. And considering the nostalgic, pastel, very cutesy artstyle (that reminds me of the memory part from Jordan River animation!), it seems very viable. But the art style is also noisy, which gives an unsettling vibe. It feels like a 2020's dreamcore wallpaper.
I might be crazy, but the hand holding the flower (with only 3 stamens, like the 3 friends) looks dark-skinned, like it would be Hyuna's or Hyunwoo's, but I doubt it would be his, considering it's the account's profile picture. If this is some kind of reference to.. perhaps, an unrequited Hyuluka but the other way around, with Hyuna still not over Luka.. probably won't happen, but God, would that be awesome.
So, how do I think the round will go?
First of all, I have to say, I'm not sure if this will be a round or a Mizisua type episode.😭 I'd say "oh the wait time is way too small" but also... do you guys remember the production announcement of Round 7? Yeah. You can never be sure.
This isn't necessarily a prediction, but more of a suggestion of what could be: It would be SO cool if it would be both.. in a way, merged. This idea just appeared in my mind and I was like OH. MY. GOD. Imagine if almost the whole thing was just them, as children, having fun, a whole backstory.. but then, when Hyunwoo dies, it pans on his face, and then it's back on stage, the loser's face instead of his. It would be so heartwarming, and then DEEPLY DISTURBING and traumatizing. I also really want some Luka and Heperu backstory so I can hate Heperu even more.
On the topic of the loser... It's going to be Luka. I'm an insane Luka lover and it was hard to get accommodated to this idea, but there is no way that he will survive. First of all, the shadow in the account's banner, in place of Luka. It's implications... are quite obvious. Second, the pattern of characters shown in Sweet Dream, and he is next. Third: "In my arms, you would be protected." I feel like Luka would consider the competition "In his arms". I don't think he would break his promise: hear me out for a second. He wouldn't let Hyuna die this way, because I feel like his sense of possession over her also comes with responsibility and protectiveness. And fourth, the Paradise lyric, to me, is a foreshadowing of his death.
I also think he will die by self sacrifice. First of all, there's no way Hyuna could defeat Luka by pure odds. Yes, her stats are better, but lets be honest, her mental power would NOT be as good infront of Luka, and also, the aliens wouldn't vote her. She's a rebel, wanted for so much time, with technically no guardian: they wouldn't want her to defeat their prince, probably. And second, I have made two categories:
The "perfects": Sua, Ivan, Luka
The "rebels": Mizi, Till, Hyuna
See something similar? Both the perfects that are dead, have died by self-sacrifice. The only other dead character, Till, has been shot while reaching for his freedom, so you can't say this is for all characters. And let's be honest.. Patterns are usually being followed in this series. Id also like to add, even though it's a reach, that in a tier of how 'perfect' they are, it'd be:
1. Luka
2. Sua - not so obvious self sacrifice
3. Ivan - obvious self sacrifice
So, I'd say that Luka's might be even more backstage, as if to sabotage himself in a way that seems viable. It also kind of goes in line with his character, he's not one to break facade on stage.
I think this episode will be quite a deep-dive into their true selves. We know the least about them, so this will be GREAT. I'd love to see a more morally gray Hyuna in this. (Since I'm genuinely kind of tired of only Luka being villainized in the ship, which honestly..  is kind of in line with the other perfects. Let's let Mizi, Till and Hyuna be little freaks too) I also want to see atleast a little bit of Hyunwoo, like a little snippet of his mind, what he saw in Luka.
In conclusion, I'm SO happy and hyped about this HyuLuka episode, they're so mysterious and I really really want to see more of L- I mean, more of them. Getting 2 episodes where Luka is present one after another is literally THE dream to me. Basically, Wiege is killing me and I'm gladly letting it.
@4listr Since you asked to be tagged and also, @rockwgooglyeyes I REALLY want your opinion on this
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crustyfloor · 1 month ago
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For HyunA, forgiving herself isn't something she's accepted yet, even now. The thoughts running through her head as she's constantly haunted by the death of Hyunwoo, and then having to relive that experience again with Jacob, and feeling so burdened by the fact that she couldn't save someone she followed and cared about, but Jacob, the first person to welcome her to the rebellion wholeheartedly, telling her to "forgive yourself" is such a pivotal moment for her character after living with such intense guilt for so long. The storytelling of this comic highlights HyunA's struggles, such as her drinking and her grief, that were intentionally kept obscure before.
It's so important that the one person who believed in her from the start, Jacob, was the one to encourage her to move forward, even when Isaac himself considered her a waste of time at first, but Jacob was keenly aware that there was something about HyunA that makes her unique and truly one of them
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Even though HyunA might consider herself a normal member, Jacob found hyuna down a sewer, weak and managing with only one leg, and trying to go back to Anakt Garden because she wanted to go back there and save those kids. Even though she had such a hellish experience in Anakt Garden, she very well could've turned around and gone to find an exit to the freedom she wanted, but she still wanted to go back because that's the kind of person she is. She wants to protect everything she cares about. That commitment to her love for others is what makes her so unique and strong, even when it conflicts with the freedom and autonomy she fights for because she recklessly stands up for what she believes in
That's why she is a worthy recruit and why Jacob takes her in. Because he knows she's resilient and she wants exactly what they want.
Jacob leaving was the start of the development HyunA went through in the rebellion, she probably didn't look as gloomy outwardly as everyone else when Jacob left, but she was affected by his disappearance, even though she wasn't in the best state herself, HyunA prioritized everyone else above all, she knew exactly what she could do to bring up the rebel's spirits, at heart, HyunA is a natural at considering others, and controlling the atmosphere, leading people into the right direction even though the approach was admittedly abrupt and off-putting- it still worked, it still meant so much to them.
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There's a reason why this scene is what made Isaac think differently of her she stepped up when even Isaac was at a loss in such a situation. Jacob was their leader and someone the whole rebellion relied on heavily, Jacob's confidence in their plan and their success became a crutch, he was such a prominent role in their group that even Isaac thought that they could do anything with him as their leader, no matter how far-fetched some of Jacob's ideas may have been.
HyunA herself disliked Jacob's "sophistry," and that is made obvious in the way she mocks and taunts everyone. At some point, even she was content with following Jacob without question because she wanted to believe him too, but in his absence, seeing how foolish those dreams really were and without that comfort, the group was visibly losing spirit.
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HyunA's arrogant display on stage is not so much because she's so confident herself but because she wants to show the rebellion that they must find courage and resilience within themselves by displaying her talent. She knew that what she needed to do was to show everyone what she believed, that they could take ownership of their own lives and get back up and keep fighting. HyunA utilizes something that was entirely cultivated by their suppressors to make her own song, she owns it because it's hers
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The character and love hyuna has is why Jacob leaves her with those final words, they don't make HyunA forget about her past or pain, but something about her changes. It's endlessly fascinating how HyunA naturally loves. She loves humanity, and she loves the people who fought in pursuit of it, so much so that she chose to take on the role of somebody who can continue to carry out that dream instead of sinking deeper into her grief. Because she truly wanted that change. In a way, she makes up for everything by doing this for the family she lost. And doing it so that she can exist for herself. She's still a person of fronts and regrets, but I can see why she saw herself in Mizi, who also understood loss and was brave enough to stand back up on her own two feet again, HyunA heals through that connection with Mizi and Isaac and the rest of the rebellion
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alien-til-i-stage · 9 months ago
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There’s something interesting in the way of how each of the cast are very similar, yet they have castly different ways to cope with what is happening to them. Each of them has their own way to deal with their trauma and because of this and how they cope, it leads them to vastly different endings and life styles.
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- Starting with Mizi, I believe she coped by living in denial. This might sound strange, considering Mizi lived with owners who loved her. Her owners sheltered her because they cared, leading her to eventually join Anakt Garden out of desire to sing. It’s implied that Mizi did not know what would happen in Alien Stage, which is interesting.
We know everyone else knew. Till, Ivan, and Sua all knew and were prepared to fight for their lives. It’s even said that the kids in Anakt Garden were raised to believe dying in Alien Stage was an honor and that they shouldn’t fear death. Its strange that Mizi didn’t know about this, so I believe that Mizi, either consciously or subconsciously made herself forget about it.
She is still a human, a pet for aliens. Vivinos and Qmeng have confirmed that while Mizi is still the one with the closest relationship to her owners, it will never be anything like a daughter relationship, that she is still a pet to them. I doubt that she was never shown any abuse to any cruelities of their society. She must’ve seen it at some point. Especially when she meets Sua, Sua is right behind her as the two of them are with their owners. All it would take would Mizi turning around to see the abuse Sua is suffering, but she doesn’t.
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While I do believe that Mizi wouldn’t have been able to tell whats wrong with Sua at her age, I think this was purposefully done to show that Mizi doesn’t look back around Sua. She’s focused on the beauty in front of her, she doesn’t pay attention to anything else. Perhaps this is to represent how Mizi actually ignores or doesn’t pay attention to anything bad, focusing purely on happiness. She puts the bad away from her mind and plays, having fun.
It’s only until Sua dies, that it gets too much for her, she can no longer subconsciously ignore what is happening and is suddenly being forced to notice everything that is happening. Almost like it’s finally being shoved in her face.
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-Sua copes by dissociating herself, seperately her body and mind. We can see this as Sua lies doll like in her glass enclosure. She doesn’t move, her eyes are dead and still, she is just there. I believe this represents how she no longer lives in the moment but rather is somewhere else mentally. She’s there physically, treated as a doll in front of the aliens, like a decoration, but she makes no reactions.
By dissociating herself, she has become the perfect doll. It’s easy for her to live life as a doll if she isn’t even mentally there at all. This fits with everything we’ve seen of her, how she constantly wears a deadpan face and doesn’t move unless she is in Mizi’s presence. Mizi makes her want to live in the moment. She legitimately has fun with Mizi, and it’s likely that when she isn’t around her, she goes right back to being doll like. This would give her another reason to constantly be around Mizi, not wanting to go back to the way she was.
If Mizi were to die, she would permanently go back to dissociating constantly, and she doesn’t want that. She wants to live in the moment, she wants to be with Mizi forever, both mentally and physically. But it is impossible for her if Mizi dies, so she sacrifices herself to keep herself from living without her, falling into her sweet dreams with Mizi forever.
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-Till copes a much more violent way. Instead he has outbursts and attacks any aliens or humans making him distressed. We see this commonly in the way he rebels. He doesn’t allow others to walk over him. This can be seen when Ivan steps on Till’s flowers and he attacks Ivan. We see a pattern of when Till gets upset, he attacks and gets violent towards the person who got him upset. We see Ivan using this to his advantage multiple times in order to get a reaction out of him.
We can also see this in the scene above where Till attacks the first alien he can, grabbing something to beat them with. It’s likely that Till wasn’t even thinking, but rather just wanted to hurt something. We know that Till had no chance of winning, but that was most likely something he didn’t care or think about at all. This shows that this action was entirely emotional, a decision made rashly. We also know that when Till is hurt badly, he thinks about Mizi to make him feel better, another coping mechanism for him. However by round 6, he has lost both of his coping mechanisms. He lost Mizi, now only able to think about her being gone, and he is reminded that he is powerless, and he is unable to attack back. He has no way to cope, making him much more suicidal in round 6, because he can’t stand or bear his life currently.
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-Ivan makes his own life and trauma bearable by constant masking. We can see this happen often with him. He puts on his mask as a way to survive but to cope, forcing himself to be seperated from what is happening to him. Similar to Sua, his mask keeps him away from his trauma. While he still hurts and he is still very traumatized, the effects of his trauma is lessened because his mask doesn’t break. He pretends his trauma doesn’t exist, he pretends he is the perfect person, and no one would be able to guess otherwise.
However the mask is also a trauma of its own. If he were to ever take off his mask, like in round 6 when he did so in front of all the aliens, he would be able to truly express himself. He does so, even at the cost of Till’s dignity and made Till confused and scared. It’s also said that when Ivan takes off his mask around Till, he becomes childish and immature, showing how the mask has also made him mentally younger. How because he doesn’t cope properly or face life the same way a typical untraumatized person would, he is mentally younger, being described a man child in fact.
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-Luka projects onto others to let out his feelings of helplessness and powerlessness. It was stated by Vivinos and Qmeng in a Q and A that Luka mentally abuses the other person on the stage, in this case it would be Mizi, because the stage is the one place he can be in control. He feels helpless and powerless outside of the stage, his entire life dictated by his owner as he is unable to chose his own path. He’s been raised from a very young age controlled by everyone around him, so once he gets the chance to have some form of control or power, he immediately jumps on the chance to get it.
He hurts the other contestant, uncaring of how they feel, because it makes him feel in power. He projects onto the other party his pain and his own feelings as a way to cope. Because of this, this could be another reason why Luka is alone. He chooses to hurt others around him because it makes him feel better, so naturally no one would want to be there for him. He has lost everyone because all he does is hurt them, seen with him and Hyuna. How Hyuna is deeply traumatized by Luka and now she avoids him and refuses to think about him.
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-Hyuna, similar to Mizi, copes by running away from her traumas, using sustenaces like alcohol or keeping hersef busy to not think. While I did say above Mizi subconsciously forgets what is traumatizing until it gets too much, Hyuna tries desperately to make herself forget. We see her constantly drinking and partying, and when she isn’t, she is on dangerous missions. It’s most likely that she does this to run away from her own mind, that if she pauses and stops for one second, she will become overburdened and overwhelmed but her trauma.
We see her pause or freeze when she sees an image of Luka, forcing her to remember everything that happened. We see her panic on stage, trying so hard to make her voice louder and sing more to forget whats going on in her mind. This makes her trauma a weakness for her, as when she freezes, they are attacked by guards. Because of how long she has been running, the worse the effect of her trauma is to her.
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maodear · 2 months ago
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HyuLuka Deep Analysis
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“ ʙᴜᴛ ʏᴏᴜʀ ʟɪꜰᴇ ɪꜱ ᴍɪɴᴇ, ᴛʜᴏᴜɢʜ? “
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Okay here we are. Hyuluka. Probably the most Doomed of the doomed ships in alnst.
TW: obsession & death? //maybe more?
If you haven’t read the comics or finished watching alien stage. This will have spoilers
This is just my personal deep thought, and of course not anything I amuse is right or official. Though most things I state here is from the official comics and artbook. Feel free to share your own thoughts also!
Apologies if there is grammar mistakes!
None of the art I show are mine, and go respectfully to the owner.
“ ᴡʜᴀᴛ ᴀʀᴇ ʏᴏᴜ ꜱᴀʏɪɴɢ? “
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Like I stated. HyuLuka is doomed. Like DOOMED! I have no idea how they can survive together. Both Hyuna can Luka are completely different personalities. The complete opposite. I would love to learn how they met
Okay so let’s go back to Anakt Garden. Hyuna,Luka and Hyun-woo seemed like great friends. Seemingly always together, maybe sometimes Hyun-woo and Luka would get jealous of each other //when the other hangs out with Hyuna
What I got from there trio, is that Luka and Hyun-woo love Hyuna. Hyun-woo being Hyunas brother and Luka.. well being obsessed with Hyuna. In the comics when Luka would hang out with Hyuna, Hyun-woo would always try and get Hyunas attention. And I would believe Luka would do the same. Which causes the fights between Luka and Hyun-woo
Luka and Hyun-woo would get into a fight, and Hyuna would usually break up the fights.
//shown in an official art
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But from what I noticed, Hyuna would be with Luka a lot of times, and Luka would say rather an odd line. “Isn’t your live mine, though?” In which Hyuna would always brush off not noticing.
Luka had an obsession with Hyuna since he was younger. I do believe Luka saw Hyun-woo as a friend in his own way. But clearly didn’t care much about him.
“ᴍʏ ꜱᴀᴠɪᴏʀ. ᴍʏ ᴡʜᴀᴛ ᴀ ᴘɪꜰᴛꜰᴜʟ ꜱᴏᴜʟ…”
During Hyuna’s All-in video, shows a scene. Of what it looks to be Hyun-woo’s head bashed into a rock while Luka being injured. Clearly smiling/giggling. But somewhat trembling
In what I think happened is, either Hyun-woo or Luka started a fight between one another. I would guess it would be because of Hyuna. Remember when I said Hyuna would usually stop the fights? My guess is Hyuna didn’t stop the fight right on time. Though something interest me. Hyun-woo clearly is shown having other wounds but. Luka didn’t have no blood on his hands or clothes. But had an injury on his head. Possibly Hyun-woo started the fight, since I would believe Luka won’t due to his physical strength.
Nothing thing is, Luka was trembling also, and remember Luka was taught to overcome the fear of death. Or fear in general. So even if Luka was terrified, he had to smile still. But he was still trembling
Of course this doesn’t matter because, Luka kills Hyun-woo. Even if Hyun-woo was the one who started the fight, Luka still killed Hyuna’s brother. That impacts Hyuna a lot. Who can blame her? She saw her brothers head bashed into a rock while Luka was smiling on the ground
And that isn’t even the only reason why this simp is doomed. Luka himself is very much not in a good sense of mind. Heperu fucks his mind. Literally triggered him even at a young age.
Lukas take on love is, to own the other person fully. Like I said, Luka claims that Hyuna is his. Even when he was younger he claims this. Even after killing her brother, he claims that she is always his.
I believe Luka doesn’t understand the concept of love. definitely not in a normal way. His love is obsession in a way. Claiming that Hyuna’s life is his.
ᴍᴀᴋᴇ ᴍᴇ ʏᴏᴜʀ ɢᴏᴅ. ɪ ᴄᴀɴ ɢɪᴠᴇ ʏᴏᴜ ᴇᴠᴇʀʏᴛʜɪɴɢ
To add on this, in my own opinion. Ruler of my heart even sounds mocking. Luka wrote this song for Hyuna. Mixed with Obsession and Mocking. Yes Luka does love Hyuna and would do anything for her. But people forget that Luka’s love for Hyuna isn’t normal. It’s Obsession. Luka is mentally and physically ill. If I’m honest, Luka would imitate Hyun-woo in my honest opinion.
When someone is obsessed with a person to a not normal level, they can do the cruelest things to the person. Because that’s their way of seeing love. If Luka believes Hyuna is his, then he would want to manipulate her.
You're the perfect subject
With the whole world in your sad eyes
 I can just say, for me this line is the most interesting line. The “Subject” placing makes me wonder. Does Luka really care that Hyun-woo died? Atleast now in present time. Because Luka knows how Hyuna reacted to him dying. Since Hyuna was THERE. But this line “in your sad eyes” Luka can already know that Hyuna is still uneasy around him.
Overall I will always stand by the fact that, Ruler of my heart, is a mixed of Lukas concept of love and yet ever so mocking to Hyuna. It’s hate to notice when you first read, but rereading shows it. Yet also mixed with such sweet but sickening lines. “You are forever beautiful”
ᴡᴇ ᴏɴʟʏ ɢᴇᴛ ᴏɴᴇ ʟɪꜰᴇ, ꜱᴏ ɪ'ᴍ ʟɪᴠɪɴɢ ᴍɪɴᴇ ꜰᴏʀ ᴍᴇ !
When Hyuna covers, Ruler of my heart. It’s so bitter and empty. The highest note is when she says “Make me your god. I can give you everything!” Hyuna is sick of Luka. Hyuna doesn’t forgive Luka, in fact she’s terrified //and maybe a mix of confusion?/of him. She hates him for killing her brother, for being so cruel. But yet, she still cares for him ever so slightly. Even if she hates it. Because once.. they were all friends. A group of friends. They were kids, yet look what happened.
Hyuna’s weak point isn’t just Hyun-woo but is also Luka. She despises him. Yet some part of her still cares. I think mostly Hyuna is confused of why Luka would do that. I don’t think she realizes how important she is too Luka. How Luka is obsessed with her. And her only.
ʏᴏᴜ ᴡɪʟʟ ᴀʟᴡᴀʏꜱ ᴄᴀʟʟ ꜰᴏʀ ᴍʏ ɴᴀᴍᴇ. ʏᴇᴛ ʏᴏᴜ ᴡɪʟʟ ɴᴇᴠᴇʀ ɢᴇᴛ ᴀɴ ᴀɴꜱᴡᴇʀ.
I would really love to see Hyuna and Luka go against each other. Which they probably will. If Mizi&Sua + Ivan&Till. Now it’s Hyuna&Luka.
As much as I want to say Hyuna would probably win. It’s also confusing too. Since Luka is not easy opponent. He learns the deepest scars of his opponents. And since he knows Hyuna’s. He can easily mess with her. But Hyuna can also. Hyuna is equally as smart or even more smart. Maybe Hyuna can get Luka to panic on stage. Since Luka is always having his heart rate controlled, if Hyuna messes with him. He can panic. Not to mention Luka has low self esteem. But covers it up and makes himself look better. Hyuna is better than Luka of everything other than appearance. So that’s why this would be very intriguing.
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ɪ ʜᴀᴛᴇ ʏᴏᴜ. ʙᴜᴛ ɪ ʟᴏᴠᴇ ʏᴏᴜ.
This is my take of Hyuluka. And of course my opinions and thoughts. Thank you for reading ♥️
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Till - An Alien Stage analysis
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Vivinos just dropped the teaser for Round 6. And after watching it a couple of times, I feel like I can finally understand why people were telling that this round is potentially the most emotional one yet. So here are my thought about Till as a character, and what we might expect from him in the upcoming Round. But before you go on and start reading, I want to make two quick disclaimers:
My native language is not english and sometimes I might make some mistakes, and I'm sorry for that. I'll try to make everything as cohesive as possible on this post so we don't have any miscommunication.
In the analysis, there will be a small mention of suicidal thoughts and a whole section on human experiments. If you're uncomfortable with those topics, please don't continue.
If you're ok with everything, thank you for continuing and I hope you have a good read! (Also, if you want to add something please feel free to chat with me! I love to see more theories and takes on everything)
Let's start this analysis from the very beginning, or at least the first event that we know of in regard of Till: his time at the adoption center.
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(Timestamp: 00:22 - 00:24 - Teaser)
From what I gathered, this scene was first seen as a sneak peek from Vivinos' patreon and it's most likely one of, if not the very first time both of them - Till and Ivan - has seen each other. As a "troubled" kid, it's dificult to catch the eyes of someone and make them willing to have you, and seeing the discounts placed on his captivity window, we can only assume that he stayed in the adoption center for quite a while now. It's no wonder that Till is watching with awe as Ivan is being escorted away: he probably got adopted and is leaving the establishment to live somewhere else, leaving the rest only to hope to be the next chosen one. We all know that in reality, being adopted by the aliens is not a synonym to having a good life in this scenario. But for a child who has been locked in this tiny room for possibly weeks, still not knowing how society works for them, it's a dream to finally be able to get out and possibly be loved by their adopted "family". So imagine Till finally getting out of this place, after all he went through there - being rejected, seen as an unwanted individual - only to get trapped in an even worse scenario: Being used as a human experiment.
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(Timestamp: 00:06, 00:11, 00:16, 00:19 - Teaser)
We can see those images are depicting something that happened after the adoption center because he's older now. We don't know how much time he had to experience those events, but if we go back to Round 2, there are some instances where he is far younger and can be seen with green stickers similar to the ones on his neck shown in the 4th image. Not only that, even on his performance on Round 2, we can see them on display. So there is a chance that he had to deal with all of this for years. Yes, he was not alone during everything, but we don't know what happened to everyone who was in this same scenario. All we know is that the faces seen on the panel during the teaser, was never once seen again.
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(Timestamp: 00:19 - Teaser)
It even seems that one has perished in one of the images shown in the teaser. For all we know, everyone but Till might be dead by the time Alien Stage begins for the main cast... And living in fear not knowing if you're going to be the next one to die during an experiment is a really terrifying reality he probably had to face. And yet, during all that, he even had to go to Anakt garden to train to become a singer, and possibly go to Alien stage.
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(Timestamp: 00:57 - Round 2)
At least, somewhere around his time on Anakt garden, he found something worth living for: Mizi. She became his beacon of light. We don't know what happened but knowing Mizi's character, she has probably shown him what happiness looks like, maybe became the first one to interact with him and show him he's someone. Not a product, not an experiment, but an individual. And he really wanted to continue having this feeling again. To be happy, just like her, with her. This admiration that flourished from him is most likely what made this crush Till has for her blossom. It's kind of an unhealthy dependancy if we put the spotlight on this relationship, he would even go as far as refuse to escape from everything with ivan - who is shown to be the only other person who interacts with him, that he considers a friend - and have freedom if she's not present. It's as if he doesn't know if he can truly be happy if she's not around. I'll make another analysis on Ivan and Till's relationship on the kindergarden once Round 6 goes live. Trust me, if I start talking about them here, I would literally not shut up and the analysis would have another 1000 words. But for now I really want to emphasize how both are seen as "weirdos", and started talking more because they really only had each other. Despite the differences and the bickering, Till holds Ivan close to him as well.
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(Timestamp: 00:19 - Teaser)
And now, We're on Round 6: Where Till has nothing to fight for. His whole life was purely a tragedy - he had seen and experienced some of the worst things that a human could go through in this world, and despite trying his best to fight against all odds, he's back on square one. He's been defeated. Mizi is missing, and in his eyes, possibly dead. And now he is going against his childhood friend, literally the only person he has left, on a battle where he knows and only one will get out alive. I won't be surprised if in the beginning he'll be willing to sacrifice himself for Ivan to win and live. Through the whole teaser, the voice singing in the background is muffled. Till is so out of it that he's not able to realize what's going on, even the shots he's in is in pure black, as if nothing around him matters anymore to him. That is, until the voice in the end gets clearer and we can finally see the stage for the Round. Can't wait to see what we have in store on April 5th. My theory is that this might be a 2 pov video, and later we'll get to know more about Ivan's take on everything. Specially because finally he might be able to make Till see him for once. Who's going to die? I hope no one. But we're talking about Vivinos... We can expect anything on this project. All I know is that I might die if we get some parallel to the meteor shower scene shown in black sorrow.
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