#Red and Flynn

[nevermore-drama-anon]

Ok time for a proper response because everything that was said is absolute bull.

To address the most disgusting thing Red’s done (recently at least), name dropping and shifting the blame to MINORS is incredibly immature. Almost everyone mentioned either left or were banned MONTHS AGO, how is this relevant? They had nothing to do with this?

Not only have they shifted the blame onto minors to protect themselves, but they’ve also completely left so much information out.

First of all, Crimson WAS aware of some ages and CONTINUED to send nsfw/suggestive messages towards minors.

So yes, Crimson did in fact know some of the ages of people she communicated with.

How exactly is name dropping going to change or excuse anything Red has done? They’re trying to shift the blame onto people from previous drama who aren’t even involved in this PRESENT drama, just to get people off their back, and if that wasn’t bad enough, several of them are MINORS. They’re shifting the blame to minors?

For those who don’t understand why that’s such a big deal, the last time Red publicly called out someone for making a nevermore critic blog, people rushed to defend Red, sending death threats and threatening to doxx this person. They continue to get these threats, even after months of this happening.

Can you see now why it is so incredibly dangerous for someone with such a large fanbase to name drop minors after incidents that have proven some people are willing to threaten anyone Red calls out?

Not only have you been provided with evidence, Laci offered to send the uncensored images, did you conveniently leave that out so it would work in your favor?

The minors came to Laci because they felt unsafe with Red and the mods because of things that have been said previously and now. (Pinning the bunnybel incident on someone else despite not moderating anything, allowing crimson to get away with grooming behavior, blaming minors for Crimson’s misgivings, and leaking of people who could potentially end up being hunted while several of the names are minors.)

Need I say more?

With everything considered and how much Red actually left out, this is genuinely disgusting behavior from someone with such a large fanbase.

You allowed a 19-year-old to be come back to a community with minors despite having evidence and proof that they were predatory, something they CHOSE to ignore due to their immaturity and past dramas that have caused an absurd amount of bias.

I hope people realize that Red, an adult woman, is fighting with kids and actively defending herself from allowing a predator to remain in a ‘safe’ server.

[whimsicalhorss]

The Recent Nevermore Drama.

Red, I think it's quite sad that you decided to delete all the original comments going against you and reexplaining what went down within your 'apology', which was 95% calling out rather than talking about the cause of the whole uprising. Nonetheless, here was my original reply, just so everybody who stumbles across this post can see the reply from somebody who's viewed it from both sides. The original message was, as follows:

'Hey Red,

I hope you're managing amidst everything that's been going on. I know you've been through a lot recently, and I hate to add to the messages you've been receiving. However, there are some things that I really need to talk to you about.

Over the past few days — even years — I've noticed some things that really concern me. It feels like there's been a lot of blame unfairly placed on certain individuals within your community, which is incredibly damaging, especially when it unfairly paints others in a negative light. I understand you've been trying to address the situation with Crimson, but the approach taken hasn't been effective and has caused more harm than good.

In terms of the Crimson drama, I think it could have been handled more sensibly. Consulting with Laci and others involved would have been beneficial before making the decision to introduce Crimson back to the server. When you were writing your explanation, which I know was rushed, you should have stepped back and consulted for longer - I know you felt pressured, but.. you needed to give yourself time to handle it.

With the screenshots, too - they were only censored to the point of concealing most of the users involved to keep the MINORS safely out of the evidence, and yet you continued to banter on about how they were censored and unable to interpret what happened. As well, you tampered with evidence when you sent a screenshot, CUTTING OUT the part where Laci mentioned they could give you the evidence uncensored if you asked, yet you continued to complain.

On the topic of minors, you name dropped SEVERAL in your apology. Do you know how endangering or scary that can be? It's insane that you felt the need to name anybody involved to get people off your back.

There's also Sardonyx - I don't know if you'll share this with your patreons but, if you do, hello Sardonyx. They casually aggravate people, make NSFW conversation in YOUR SFW server, and you still allow them to pursue in such a way. They continued to temper people after the initial Crimson argument and started their own, which could have been avoided if you had muted both persons involved (rather than banning everybody against Sardonyx) and asked for them to calm down and explain their conflict in dms.

Also the Bunnybel issue - I know the topic was discussed by people banned, but there's also the factor that neither you, nor your mods stepped in to stop it. Matter of fact, you contributed to it, and everybody went along with it as a fun easter event of drawing your two main protagonists in these outfits that, when looked at closer, actually have a much more terrible implication. You should have handled this earlier, rather than blaming it on somebody and ranting about how it's all their fault and they're in the wrong.

Again with Laci, too - you outright blaming her for everything that has occurred is terrible. Whilst that may be what you see in this whole confrontation, in truth, it really isn't anything like that, Red. Saying that everybody else involved were her 'lackeys' and 'twisted around her finger' was an incompetent, foolish way of pinning all these hardships on her. Some people involved, including me, had barely spoken to Laci prior, because a lot of people cared about the fact that YOU had unbanned a potentially alleged pedophile back into your server full of minors. I know it doesn't seem like everybody cared, but we all did, otherwise we wouldn't have started this whole 'riot' thing or whatever to go against it. I surely cared, considering I have been at the face of two pedophiles sending me unsettling, inappropriate images, and I know that it is hard to reach out to somebody or stop them when they shrug it off so nonchalantly.

Lastly, I think it's hypocritical you spoke about how certain groups were stalker-ish and stealing messages from a patreon chat, despite you taking a chat from private servers and dms. The behaviour is equal, is it not? You used your influence to alter certain texts and take them out of context, and the other groups simply took what you said and proved that you, and unpunished, favourited people who have been held dearly, have done terrible things yourself.

I understand that this whole thing has been overwhelming for you, Red, but I believe that there was a real need for you to approach each situation differently, and not to compile everything into an 'apology' that is 5% apology, and 95% calling out people and altering the blame to be put on them. I think that the tactics you used were poor, and I hope that you do figure out something better in the future.

Take care, and I'm here if you'd like to discuss this any further.

Best regards,

A bystander.' And the second reply I made, aimed at one of her patreons (or moderators? who knows.) who put a whole lot of shit behind a paywall and then continued to support her. Aha, Debobble, if it wasn't illegal, I'd show the whole world you trying to make a fake screenshot of Laci 'configurating her hate schemes', and how terribly it was done. 'Hello!

I hope you're having a joyous, maybe even 'whimsical' day!

A lot of things that have occurred recently are the fault of both 'sides' (if we can call them that. Not 'Laci's lackeys' or 'Clique 1 and 2'.) and I think I should refer to the way that this has been dealt with again. 

Yes, the server was owned by somebody different who was capable of banning Crimson, and it was intended for less SFW purposes, but I think Crimson went outright too far in a predatory way. They put a teenage oc with an adult oc, which is pedophilic behaviour, and sent several overly NSFW images. I assume that this chat was intended for 'implied sexual circumstances', rather than overly perverse, but I could be wrong. I agree in the fact that something should have been done, and I approve of Laci's initial reaching out, but I don't approve of the way Red banned them for as little as they did.

As I like to say; 4 months, 4 minors. You afforded Crimson a month for each minor they influenced in such a predatory way, and I think the time should have been extended.

Might I also add, these screenshots were not 'heavily' censored. They were censored for the safety of the minors and other persons involved and, yet.. Red seems to be content with name dropping every minor who was involved. So much for the safety of her members!

AND I have more to add, which I trust you to hand over to Red for me since you seem content to do that quite often for her - do you mind reminding her and the entire patreon and mod chat that Crimson (and Red, I'm pretty sure) knew the age of one 12 year old, who we might call 'Green'. They continued to share NSFW things to them, including making jokes about what I assume was a 'vibrator in public'. How SFW for a child! Crimson is VERY innocent.

I agree that all of this has gotten out of hand, but both responses, from Red, the moderation team, and the patreon chat against the groups banned for involving themselves, but I wouldn't consider it a mob. Both sides had good intentions, it's just the way Red has gone about it - framing others for her mistakes and outright dismissing people for being concerned about the safety, that has made this come to such a volatile level.

And the whole, breaking several TOS, and a law? If thats what we're doing, what are you doing? Leaking private messages, encouraging predatory behaviour, endangering minors, leaking names which could result in a witch hunt from Red's expanse following? Oh dear..

How volatile.

Best regards,

A bystander.' Red, every little detail you have undergone is such a negative, unredeemable smidge to this massive whiteboard of what you could do. Instead of handling this like the adult, you undertake criticism harshly, which is detrimental considering you are somebody who has been writing for years, which means that you should have matured and adapted to take this kinds of things. You could have taken a month, maybe two, maybe three, to explain the whole Crimson thing - it would have been much less detrimental to yourself, and your community. You absolutely wrecked every second, third, fourth, fifth chance people were tempted to give you with every detail that went in to making sure that YOU felt like you had to be right - name dropping, which could lead to witch hunting with your massive following, especially since the people were minors and specifically requested you keep their names out of it. You allowed an alleged, potential predator back into your server without consulting it with victims - and don't get me started on the whole 'Crimson didn't know!', they knew at least one of them, and still continued. You pinned the blame on Laci, on another person (who has asked me not to say their name and, like the respectful person I am, will not be namedropping. That doesn't seem like a familiar concept to you, does it?) and you keep all these little dirty secrets behind a paywall. Red, in the most respectfully disrespectful way, grow up and learn to be better. You spout all this bull, every little detail and, when it backfires, you cower into a corner, guilt trip, manipulate, and eventually resort to the potential physical or mental harm of other people. It needs to stop. The icing on the cake, to all of this? YOU, as the 'mature adult that would never stand for pedophilic behaviour, that loves their audience, that has a server full of minors', that YOU would delete messages explaining the situation in a different point of view. You don't want your vast following to see these and think, 'huh, maybe Red isn't as good as I thought they were?', well they aren't. I don't know if people will see this but, sincerely, I hope Red, Flynn, DeBobble, the patreons, the moderators, and all of the discord and general following of Nevermore and RnF know that what Red spouts isn't necessarily all true.

Kind regards, A bystander.

[porcelaintoybox23]

If the first person Nevermore kills off is Duke, we will have issues.

Edit: they have not betrayed me 😭. The bar is in hell but it’s over. Yay

[comic-book-fan-us]

Ada’s Eye Color (It's Probably Nothing)

So I noticed something weird about Ada’s eye color.

When she starts talking to Lenore for the very first time, her eyes are brown.

Then they turn green.

Then they’re brown again.

Now, green eyes are often associated with jealousy. Jealousy is obviously a huge part of Ada’s character, and she explicitly states that her behavior towards Lenore was the result of jealousy. Given that Ada’s Spectre has yet to be revealed, I came up with the theory that her changing eye color may be some sort of foreshadowing. A brief Google search also suggested that in ancient Greek theology, people with green eyes are said to be descended from Lycaon, the first werewolf.

The problem with this theory is that after Episode 7, Ada is never drawn with brown eyes again. In fact, she seems to mostly be drawn with just black dots with no iris. Most characters have a couple panels where their irises aren’t shown, but with Ada, it almost seems like the norm.

I think the changing color in Episodes 6 and 7 were most likely just a minor coloring mistake, but a part of me is reluctant to give up this theory.

Ada’s eyes tend to be shown as green when she’s engaging in self-destructive behavior:

Self-pity

Being confronted with her lack of Spectre

After Montressor tormented and humiliated her.

Alienating others

Clinginess

Jealousy

Obsessive People-Pleasing

Also, I'll just point out these two images:

Morella is the one character who seems to have a real friendship with Ada, so these two interactions are probably the most genuinely happy Ada has been so far in the series. In both moments, Ada's eyes are closed.

In summation: Ada's eyes are green, but they don't always look green. That might be important, but probably isn't. I mainly just wanted to point out this weirdness in case someone smarter than me sees something I don't.

[webtoon-toon-toon-toon-toon]

My favorite Shiloh plot is neither the scarecrow nor Azrael but a secret third one.

[skull-ishcloud]

I was just rereading Nevermore on Webtoon (that just came out of hiatus btw)

And found this gem

I am totally using this as a meme from now on.

[gothwineaunts]

"Another Cog in the Murder Machine" New season, new RNF art. ~

[repmet]

Please give us the domestic mealtime deleted scenes

[stratocumulusperlucidus]

« That was a fun day to have Stephen on set. It was just Stephen and the younger cast and they were all on their best behavior. I was like "why can't you be like that when Stephen Fry's not on set?!" »

Matthew López On Adapting and Directing a Beloved Queer Love Story for 'Red, White and Royal Blue' (AwardsDaily)

[myteavsricochet]

more of them please ❤️

[lorkonsghost]

So I woke up in the middle of the night from one hell of an au. Basically Phineas and Ferb's Parents, and Candice all die in like a car crash sad I know but neither their uncle or their grandparents can take them in so they find their great uncle penny worth who takes them in now Phineas and Ferb are going to help the BatFamliy become a family again. The b plot is after doof turns good perry retires from owca and is now the leader of super pets also Damian swears to god something is going on with perry he will find out but he no idea where to look

Some incorrect quotes

Phineas:hey Ferb,Cass what are we going to do today

Ferb:...

Cass:.....

Phineas: great idea we should make an anti gravity glove

Dick and Jason who's watching this happen

Dick: do you think they actually communicated that or Phineas just said something random

Jason: I'm not super fluent in Cass but I'm pretty sure she was talking to Ferb quite a bit

Bonus

Phineas: where's perry

Damian: I have been asking question everyday since you got here

[nevermore-drama-anon]

To clarify, in no way am I trying to rile up Red in anyway and I know this probably will. I genuinely wish the best for them after this. Please RNF, genuinely take a break, coming back with the webtoon after all of this without more of a break will only make things worse.

I don’t want this to be any worse than it already is, but I’m not letting people continue to blindly support Red after everything they failed to leave out.

The amount of support your post had made me feel a little concerned, so reader, please take my words into consideration before going back and actually reading Red’s post.

[rwrbmovie]

💙❤️

[porcelaintoybox23]

Spoilers for Nevermore 77

When the character you've hated the whole time but the fandom loves finally proves again that she's fucking evil and annoying.

Annabel Lee, step on down, you raggedy, racist bitch.

Also, not loving a rich, white, British woman along with other white people essentially lynching one of the only black characters this story has!

If the creators do this, I might drop. Are they unaware of what this looks like? Having poc characters is great unless you kill them off immediately

[meraki-yao]

If someone doesn't do something about this soon I think I'll go insane

I MEAN LOOK AT THIS. JUST LOOK AT THIS.

[philosmene]

BYEsexual and BYElingual 🫡

Did this for pride month... kinda obvious innit