#RPF fanfic that was published

[hotasfahrenheit]

i really love that Sunset x Vibes is making a big point about consent especially this week- Sun asks Lin's permission before kissing him, has previously, and is constantly asking Lin if he's okay with things. he also isn't the best at hiding their relationship since he's a giant golden retriever of a man and would lick Lin's face in public if allowed, but it's because he's enthusiastic and in love and not because he doesn't care. when Lin asked him to keep things on the downlow he agreed, and he's been doing his level best to respect Lin's wishes and make sure that Lin is comfortable.

meanwhile some random shit guy touches Lin's butt without consent and Lin kicks him in the face multiple times and takes him to the police station 🤣

[rotisseries]

I'm so unbelievably susceptible to the famous secret relationship trope it's unreal actually

[inlovewithaspiderguy]

*inserts meme man* righting

[angevinyaoiz]

i can't believe last year I was like oh no...historical RPF...is this ok...am I cringe for real this time....and then I look once at Goodreads and see the 1000000 batshit titles of ppl literally just Making Shit Up and AUing the hell out of everything lmao

[allylikethecat]

Not sure if this counts as Talk Shop Tuesday but:

Have you seen The Idea of You? What is your opinion on rpf!fanfic being published and subsequently turned into movies?

If you want it to be a Talk Shop Tuesday it counts as a Talk Shop Tuesday!

I have seen The Idea of You and I have also read the book. (I'm very happy they changed the ending in the movie lol) I enjoyed both the book and the movie, BUT as someone who reads, writes, and enjoys fanfiction it makes sense that I liked the book / movie because it was fanfiction at one point.

I think that RPF fic being traditionally published and then turned into movies is an interesting debate. On one hand it's a little odd to me, especially when it is so mind blowingly obvious like in the book they didn't even change Liam's name. But at the same time if someone came to me and was like "Ally we love All the King's Horses you should change it up a little bit to make it more original, and then we're going to publish it, and turn it into a movie" I would be like sounds amazing where do I sign?

BUT in terms of just like a fun romcom? I really enjoyed the movie. I'm also a big fan of Nicholas Galitzine and the scene with the chicken tenders? That's the dream right there I love tendies lol

Thank you so much for indulging me in a talk shop Tuesday and sending this ask my way! I hope you are having a wonderful Tuesday and that you have a fantastic week!

❤️Ally

[stormsthatrage]

It bugs me that so many people's default example of published fanfic is 50 Shades of Grey.

What about West Side Story, a famous modern AU of Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet?

What about Dante's Inferno, a self-insert RPF if I've ever seen one?

What about Wicked, a pre-canon AU of The Wizard of Oz?

Hell, what about Percy Jackson? There's definitely an argument to be made that that's a modern AU of various Greek myths.

Humans have been writing fanfic as long as they have been telling stories. In about the year 20 BC, our dear Roman poet Ovid wrote the Heroides, a series of aggrieved "letters" from the female characters of famous myths to their respective male heroes. Are you telling me that Ovid, writing a letter from the perspective of Queen Dido to Aeneas -- Aeneas, whose fantastical adventures were put into poem by Virgil -- wasn't writing an outsider-POV fic? A fic that is, in fact, translated in Latin classes world-wide today!

There is so much famous fanfic out there, but people tend to forget that it is fanfic once it becomes mainstream enough. And as a consequence of that, people who aren't into fandom don't see how beautiful fanfic is, and some members of fandom feel shame associated with writing and reading fic. But fanfic is beautiful, and it is something humans have always done, and it is nothing to be ashamed about.

So if you ever find yourself in a situation to give an example of published fic, think outside the box. Remember that published fanfics hide in plain sight; once they're famous enough, we no longer think of them as fanfic. And never forget that fanfic is a very, very old human tradition, and your ancestors who partook in it would not have wanted you to feel ashamed of it.

[dashiellqvverty]

the thing is in my brain throam is genuinely very good in many ways but also i haven’t read it in years and it very probably is Not

[themarkofoxin]

every time i think about dan and phil becoming the internet’s go-to example of the Dangers of Shipping Real People it makes me so exhausted. for their entire fourteen year career together they have encouraged people to write fic about them and draw fanart and generally “be creative” as they always phrase it. dan specifically, outside of 2012/2013 when he was aggressive towards fans pestering him about it, at one point said he likes reading fic and that he’s often surprised about how good they can be. hell, they wrote fanfic of themselves in their own published book and hired a popular fanartist to illustrate a manga of them.

and then dan came out. and in his video he mentioned how stressful it was to suddenly blow up and have a bunch of people speculating about his relationship, and how it triggered him due to his trauma from being heavily bullied in school. and then followed up the segment talking about how past that point the fans’ support was actually very healing for him, and hearing people tell him that he had helped them be comfortable with who they were without him even being out was one of the things that made him confident in coming out in the first place.

but the people who write angry posts about the evils of rpf or whatever don’t care about dan and phil’s actual opinions. they saw or heard about how annoying the fans were, heard along a thousand-step telephone game that dan and phil hate their fans, and have now christened them the platonic ideal of creators whose lives were ruined because of shippers. it’s ridiculous. it’s unfounded. and it’s disrespectful to the actual existence of the people they’re propping up to support their argument

[lizardsfromspace]

I just want to say that if you've written anything, anything, then you're a better writer than the ones who never try. If the greatest, most gifted author on Earth never writes a word & just talks up how great they'd be if they ever picked up a pen, they're objectively a worse writer than a thirteen year old writing RPF of Minecraft Youtubers, bc at least they tried.

If you're reading this and you've written anything - a short story, a poem, even a fanfic - even if it wasn't published or didn't make you any money, even if it's just sitting on your hard drive forever - I want you to know you're a better writer than people who sketch out an outline, and sue real writers for stealing concepts; you're better than people who talk up their ideas all the time, and how someday they'll be recognized for their genius, but who never ever do the work to create anything; you're better than people who "write" by feeding prompts into an AI. Because you write. Because you wrote something more than a plan, or a rant about your genius. You put in the effort to create something that wasn't in the world before.

The world is full of people who want all the benefits and acclaim of writing, but who don't want to write, or who even treat writing and the arts with open disdain. And if you've so much as written a three paragraph story about your Warrior Cats OCs, you're better than them

[belles1011]

Fake relationship LFG!!!! 👀👀👀

Trope Months – December – Fake Relationship

Any pairing (doesn’t have to be the pairing of the month).

Alternate Universes (AU) very welcome.

All casual, no signups, participate at will. Start posting at midnight in your time zone. Tag your stuff #indy fake relationship so we can all see them.

Nothing is off limits, even dark and dead dove is acceptable. Just tag appropriately so people can avoid it if it’s not their thing. NO SHAMING!

Longer fanfics and Ao3 links welcome, even if they’re not finished within the month.

Look for a new poll around the 15th to pick the trope for January.

What’s your favorite flavor of fake relationship?

To temporarily appease loving but annoying family members worried about you being single. Normally you plan to break up after That Big Christmas Gathering but we all know what really happens.

To infiltrate a couple's retreat for [reasons] where you need to pose as a married or committed pair. This works nicely with criminal investigations.

To meet the requirements of a trust from your Estranged Great Uncle who requires that you be engaged/married/whatever in order to inherit fifty gazillion dollars.

To make your/their ex jealous.

To show everyone at your school reunion/ex's wedding what a fantastic partner you have.

Because you were interviewing at a famously "family oriented" company and panicked and claimed you were engaged at some point because you thought you'd look like a better fit for the company and then you landed the job and you and your spouse-to-be were invited to The Big Company Shindig and now, oh shit, what do you do?

Your grandma/pa/dad/mom/elder caretaker is very sick and their only wish is to see you with a partner before they die, so you get someone to be a stand-in. But after that they miraculously recover, what to do now?

Ditching an actual but obnoxious suitor you don't want, but can't tell to pound sand for reasons.

Formal event (ie a ball or business affair) requires a date. Chaos ensues.

It's the idea that the first manned mission to Mars (or any similarly long voyage) had a crew chosen for maximum psychological cohesion and teammate stability - in Heinlein's mind, that apparently means several pairs of stable long-term astronaut spouses. What if two astronauts wanted in on a particular mission (for various motives - research, fame, maybe international intelligence) so they fake-married their way aboard? (Hinch/Rossi, anyone?)

Character A is tired of people asking why they're single anymore so they beg Character B to fake date them.

Marrying (or getting engaged) someone because of visa related reasons?

(all of the above swiped from various sources on the internet to use as example. Google searching trope fake relationship will get you all sorts of ideas)

[blutopaz15]

timeskip Rayla got really into writing self-insert rpf fanfic about her and Callum, published on Archive of Xadia's Own

[ingravinoveritas]

I've been seeing posts about some replies from AL on Twitter tonight, and wanted to share some of my thoughts. For those who might've missed it, Anna replied to the below thread--not once, but twice--despite not being tagged or mentioned anywhere in it:

The fanart above is based on an Ineffable Husbands AU fic that is currently published on AO3 and has nothing to do with Michael other than using his face for the character, which makes AL randomly leaving those inane comments an obvious bid for attention, as she would've had to be stalking fan accounts to find that tweet. To make matters worse, however, someone in the comments on one of the replies sent her a link to the fanfic in question. Particularly egregious is the fact that the person who sent the link was not the author, and the author is now (quite understandably) pissed off and upset about this.

I know there have been multiple discussions about this in the past, but apparently it needs to be repeated: It is absolutely NOT acceptable to send fanfic to creators/creator-barely-adjacent people, especially without the author's knowledge or permission.

Yes, we know Michael enjoys GO fanfic. Yes, we know he has read and likely written GO fanfic and probably RPF. That still does not make it okay to send him fics--at all, for any reason, but most significantly because if anyone knows where/how to find fics if he wants to read them, it's Michael. Also worth noting is that Anna is not Michael. Anna could dislike or be entirely disgusted by GO fanfic or AUs...in which case she could have commented on the photo edit as a way of making fun of it, thereby potentially setting the creator up for ridicule and/or harassment.

It's also distressing to see people in the comments on Twitter encouraging this behavior/cheering AL on while seemingly not caring one jot about the actual creator's feelings (especially when I know that several of the comments are fan artists themselves). I had honestly thought fans knew better than that by now, but it seems not, and to say that all of this is infuriating is an understatement...

EDIT: It's been brought to my attention that it was the person who created the Professor Fell AU/made the photo edits who was upset at Anna's comments, not the fic author (who linked their own fic, rather than someone else's). My apologies for any confusion...

[mcytblrconfessions]

When I first got into fandom, I thought that when someone talked about shipping real people, they meant people they knew personally, and not, like, celebrities. I wasn't sure why it was such a controversial topic, because I figured that as long as I didn't mention it to them, there was nothing wrong with thinking some of my friends would make cute couples. This inevitably led to wondering why people were writing fanfic about people they knew irl and publishing it online. I didn't interact with fandom, so it took me an embarrassing amount of time to figure out what rpf actually was. To be fair, a friend and I were writing AUs about people we went to school with, so that probably contributed to that whole misunderstanding. (We weren't putting them online, just writing in our notebooks. I also wrote psychological profiles of several people so I could figure out how to make them like me and be my friend. This isn't connected to the fanfiction, it just was in the same notebook).

[valyrfia]

RE: This ask on fanfic, fandom, and lestappen

(preface with, I love fanfic and fandom, and I've written for very big and small)

I have never experienced such bad fandom etiquette as I have with 1633. I wrote one multi chapter fic for the ship and 99% of ao3 comments I got were people asking when I'd publish the next chapter, which has always been a big no no in fandom. I deleted the fic because it felt bad that people didn't want to engage with what I had written, but, just ask about my update schedule. Also, people changing the date of their published fic to be more recent, so, it appears at the top of the 'recently updated page'! I have never seen this in any fandom before now! AO3 isn't Instagram! If you tag correctly, people will find your fic if they want to read it.

People are pushing 1633 constantly in very public spaces like Twitter, Insta and TikToK, where we know these drivers have accounts and look at comments/posts about them or on their own posts. Just today on Twitter I see Dan Howell (which what a fucking weird intersection of my past and current interests) being asked at a public panel about lestappen, just because he's mentioned liking F1 in the past. I know it gets easy clicks and engagement because it is popular. But, it's so far removed from behaviour that was ever considered acceptable in fandom.

I remember, back in 2013/14 there was a huge backlash to people bringing up fictional ships to actors/writers. There was discourse after every Supernatural or Teen Wolf fan forum/con panel when someone would inevitably ask about Destiel or Sterek. People would argue whether fanon and ships were appropriate to ask the real people behind the show about.

RPF is fine, I have written, currently write and will continue to engage in RPF spaces. But, there are boundaries that you must keep if you are going to engage with it. Tumblr and AO3 have always been considered locked fandom spaces. If a person goes onto these sites and searches themselves out, that's on them. But, it's implied in fandom that you keep to just these spaces or private chats

(personally, I'm sad I just missed out on the livejournal days... I got into fandom when everything was being moved over from there and fanfic.net onto ao3)

I understand younger social media users are used to an algorithm finding content for them. And on sites like Tumblr where the algorithm sucks or ao3, which doesn't have one. You have to search out the content you want yourself. Liking and kudos isn't enough, you actually have to engage in meaningly conversations and comments if you want to make friends. That can be scary! But, it's a soft skill that is slowly getting lost and with it fandom etiquette is going down the drain.

This is like...one of the last big serious ask I want to reply to on this topic because not everyone agrees with me (which, fine), but OP you put a lot of time into typing this up so I will honour that.

I think fandom, much like a lot of other things nowadays, have become less about fun and more about hitting a certain number of likes and interactions. That's why people push Lestappen on other social media even though most of us have explicitly said "can you not, thanks". The changing the date of the fic to push to an 'algorithm' infuriates me and is a personal pet peeve of mine. There's one that's doing that now on the Lestappen tag and I've point-blanked refused to read it literally BECAUSE of the date changing. People will read your fic if they want to, constantly pushing it to the top of the 'Date Updated' list does nothing except piss people off.

I will say I think the fictional ship discourse of 2014 was maybe driven in part by the fact that being gay was still seen as something much more 'novel' than even now. If we think about when marriage became legal in the US and all that...I still think though that it shows a level of self-awareness and self-regulation that we've lost in fandom. As my partner and I often to lament to each other, we've become so individualistic that people have lost the concept of shame. It's an idea that YOU are the exception and something should cater to YOU, instead of the other way round. In the case of fandom, this comes out as people acknowledging fandom etiquette in an abstract way, but still logging into their twitter account (WITH THEIR FACES ATTACHED! WHICH! THIS IS A TANGENT BUT IT BAFFLES ME! WHAT HAPPENED TO DIGITAL FOOTPRINT!) and posting about RPF. Fandom is not an abstract entity, fandom IS the people that interact with it–from authors to artists all the way to those who consume the content.

Also, I also JUST missed out on the lj days–the great migration was happening just when I was getting involved in fandom and I can't help but feel like I missed out on something special.

[olderthannetfic]

I understand that cheekily calling classics fanfic is a misnomer because, yeah, on a technical level, the concept of fanfiction arose in modern parlance thanks to IP laws which didn't exist back when telling stories based on other people's stories was just how storytelling worked--however, when someone is mocking fanfic by poking at its lack of originality, the comparison is relevant and warranted. If the thing that makes fanfic 'lesser' than Officially Published Works is the fact that it's based on the ideas, characters, worlds, plots, and concepts of those that came before, then the fact that a lot of Officially Published Works are likewise 'unoriginal' is relevant, and that includes (most) Arthuriana and The Odyssey and Dante's Inferno and etc etc.

Shakespeare's Richard III and Julius Ceasar were Historical RPF (among others, he did like eight plays based on historical figures lmfao). So is The Crown. The Scarlet Pimpernel is fix-it fic of the Reign of Terror, and it also kick-started the entire superhero genre (you can thank the Baroness Orczy for Batman's existence). Back in the day, writers could look at some story that someone else came up with, say 'hey, wow, that's pretty cool, I'm gonna rewrite this, stick in these bits too, and do it my way' and no one could say shit about it. That's what separates modern fanfic from the landscape of literary canon Back In The Day, but pointing out that if something were being created today in the modern literary landscape it'd be going on ao3 with a set of fandom/genre tags is relevant to the general 'fanfic is dumb and stupid because it lacks originality' argument.

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[cantgetworsethanthistbh]

omg the real reason why ford didn’t want fidd to edit and publish the journals or stan to burn them: it’s his erotic RPF childhood friends to enemies to lovers incest fanfic of him and his twin

the most embarrassing part is how its technically not autobiographical yet, ford was still working on making the "lovers" part come true after he becomes super successful, i mean you cant publish fantasies that arent true yet, thats not very academic