#Problematic Youtube creators

[crsbysdot]

JESSICA KENT/BERNER 420 HAD MY CHANNEL DELETED. MY THOUGHTS ON MY REMOVE...

Tyra’s an *sshole and MAY have deserved this, but JK apparently has gotten sht taken down before and I don’t recall seeing Tyra do anything that violated tos. Plus Tyra had stuff on her main channel that I was using for a deep-dive. So I have a vested interest in this lady getting her channel back.

[obsessivehopelessromantic]

Trigger warning ⚠️ This post contains themes such as : murder and SA, if it makes you feel uncomfortable, then please ignore and keep scrolling.

I don't want to cause trouble or upset anyone but I fucking hate Peter from YB and honestly, seeing his creator's true colours, I'm even more glad that I hated him, I know people that actually like the game and the character, heck, even one of my favorite ever Youtubers was inspired by the game and made a beautiful VN with characters that I love and are actually interesting, but the Fuboo literally sucks ass, Peter is a terrible character with a terrible design, the only thing that he does in game is kill other characters, be a delusional rapist and kidnap you. I hate him so much and the only things that seems to be interesting about him are his family issues and the fact that he knows he's in a game, there's nothing else, he doesn't draw, he doesn't write, he even doesn't have a job, at this point, you would assume that all the red flags of the character would drive people away from it and the game but no, he's "cute" apparently, he is not, he's desperate and horny, all the other characters are better than him in almost every way but if you spend any time with them then he'll kill them, it's wrong on every level, the only reason people like him is because he's one of the first characters to be a "yandere obsessive stalker" and a "self aware" character but others have done it way better, John doe, for example, he knows he's in a game, stalks you and can literally KILL you but guess what, even HE, "a self aware yandere obsessive stalker" character like Peter, can ACTUALLY take a hint, He can actually just, let you go, not pursue you any further, LOSE INTEREST, and guess what, he's not even like, human, in any way, but he knows when to give up, unlike Peter and his creator.

I'm sorry if I sound like a hypocrite or jealous person but I refuse to support the game and its developer after what she did, and I hope others will follow suit and find other better games, whether similar or not, to support, with creators that actually need the support, Fuboo or Melissa, however you want to call her, is a groomer and her husband is a rapist, they clearly don't feel any remourse for what they did and it would be wrong to support them. please, reconsider, look through the evidence and move on from that game and that character, it's a lost cause.

[14th-centuary-capitalism]

"don't buy hogwarts legacy because it funds transphobia" and "don't buy hogwarts legacy because it's basically an antisemitism rpg" are both incredibly valid arguments but it also just looks like a bad game

[imjulia-andilikecats]

@animerunner @novelist-becca @pancakes4life

Hello, updated the tags in this meme. Sorry if it took this long to edit.

I saw clips that were labeled "promo" for the S3 episode 2, so I looked for it and saw scenes and screenshots claiming as promos/teasers for episode 2.

One of which, I made a meme out of.

Then I ended up seeing more clips that are more spoiler than trailer/teaser, and later saw that the whole episode was leaked via iTunes and is now everywhere on Youtube.

I'm sorry. I did not intend to insult nor disrespect the animators, especially Dana Terrace with this meme.

I will take it down, and post any/future TOH memes when it is officially aired.

Edit: January 21, 2023 is the official date when Episode 2 will air. ( Had a mini panic attack over this 😭)

Note: The meme I edited was made with the intention of making people laugh and to show appreciation to the creators.

[mysticdragon3md3]

Bad People, Good Art: What Now? by Wisecrack

Just found this video essay, and thought I'd add it to the list of food for thought concerning problematic creators and audience consumers' cognitive dissonance.

Love the Art, Hate the Artist by The Art Assignment

MMO Junkie's Racist Director - Should We Hate the Work, or the Jerk? by Mother's Basement

Death of the Author by Lindsay Ellis

Death of the Author 2: Rowling Boogaloo by Lindsay Ellis

I also find this post really helpful:

https://mysticdragon3md3.tumblr.com/post/625581072373186560/timegoddess167-smallest-feeblest-boggart

Basically, it reminds that there isn't really much unproblematic artwork, and the only thing we can do sometimes is just stay aware, critical, and not glorify creators. But that post was mostly in regards to problematic dead poets. If the creator is still alive, it would be helpful to not give them money to advocate for more bad things, by patroning their artwork.

Also, here's my list of more vids about the cognitive dissonance of problematic authors, specifically about the 2023 wizard game:

https://mysticdragon3md3.tumblr.com/post/708906729368371200/stuff-ive-been-watching-lately-about

[megabuild]

*Taking this to encompass all forms of MCYT, from modern streamed SMPs such as Dream SMP and QSMP, to popular YouTube series like Hermitcraft, to old-school series like Yogscast, Aphmau, and Stampy, and single-player series such as Mumbo Jumbo's redstone videos. For the purposes of this poll, any uploaded video format that is primarily focused on content set within the game Minecraft counts as MCYT.

When I say negatively, you can take this in any way, but I am specifically thinking of people who will look down in or be wary of people who say they are into MCYT, or have "MCYT fans DNI" or similar listed on their profile. If you are not interested in MCYT but have no negative connotations with the medium you are free to not answer.

Since I am a MCYT blog the results may appear skewed at first- I don't want to be the "reblog for bigger sample size" guy but if you have reach outwith MCYT spheres please consider it!

[dsmp-lainey]

tired of the idea that dream smp is lost media “you had to be there for” that no new people can get into.

the story holds up, the characters are compelling and VERY relatable, it’s SO interesting if people will just give it a chance and i really think we should be encouraging people to check it out!

and while some of the cc’s are problematic, the story itself is NOT. no bad people make money off of it anymore so it’s a perfect case of separate art from the artist, and the characters from the creators.

(resources for new/returning fans below the cut! if you have ANY level of interest please just give it a chance and check it out, you never know, you could find your next favorite thing!)

if you dont know the dsmp storyline well/at all and you have interest in watching i recommend checking out BlueberryTV on youtube for their lore playlist

also use this (https://dreamsmpseries.carrd.co) to access some great playlists of uncut lore VODS

EvanMCGaming on youtube has some AWESOME movie style dsmp lore minecraft videos

Also check out the fan creations! i recommend Sad-ist and Late August animatics to new fans to gain a sense of the overall story!

look up summary and analysis videos on youtube from other creators, there’s literally hundreds and most are pretty well done :)

also highly recommend this slideshow -> season 1: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1jyKnFC_m0XsLcivqP735s0CsD1X6V9B13gAwXVEp_hk/mobilepresent?slide=id.p

[can-i-use-wisky-please]

As someone who became absolutely obsessed with parkciv and felt inclined to explore Evbo's other content, I feel like it needs to be properly mentioned just how crazy his storytelling skills are.

Getting into Parkciv you'd think its just the most cliche Youtube bait trash for like Gen Alpha but then you watch a clip of it and it's really addicting but not in a brain-rotting way, instead it's more of like a getting-into-a-series way. So what I mean about this is that the story is all cohesive and perfectly simple while the execution is perfectly adapted to the media used which is Minecraft RP cut into shorts.

Staring with Parkciv's story specifically, I think that the premise is so perfectly simple and authetic to the style of a Minecraft Youtuber. I mean when you think about the 3 things players can get good at in Minecraft its obviously gonna be: pvp, parkour, or builds. Anything else I feel is just like a subset of those 3. Conceptualizing a series based on parkour and a what-if style of plot is such a clean formula for a hit MC series. Now for autheticity, I have to get into what I realized about Evbo as a content creator. Bcause as I was like getting into his channel, I noticed that he kind of just sticks to what he's more familiar with about Minecraft, and Youtube, and all that. It's very pure. His style of content reminds me of the golden days of Minecraft and personally, very refreshing. Now because of this, he can turn like ridiculous premises into incredible stories that just unfold so naturally while having enough passion to back up these stories and provide layers to them.

Now that I mentioned the natural progression of his stories I have to say that his execution definitley help these ridiculous plots to not become so over saturated. Just for context, I watched a video analysis on Techno's style of content and how he became so viral from it and one of the reasons is due to his like chill tone and demeanor and I think Evbo has like this perfect balance of chillness and Youtuber-content-creator attitude. I mean he's narrating the entirety of Parkciv, he can't be irritating to the audience so he puts on this content creator "accent" but excludes the over the top scream and jokes and has this straight forward, natural script with naturally timed, genuinley funny jokes. All his decisions to the story of Parkciv is so intentional and made with the utmost respect to the story. What I mean by this is his decisions are for the sake of the story, nothing is done to like farm clout, or audiences, or anything else like that.

TLDR; just a long way of saying Evbo is a great story teller and I hope he keeps up this passion for making genuine MC stories and does not become problematic.

P.s. idk why PVPciv is getting so much hate bcs its so enjoyable and I kind of like how it's the antithesis to Parkciv.

[crsbysdot]

Dossiers: The Hogs

(Pictures and links to channels not included in this Dossier.)

Mr. and Mrs. Roadhog, AKA: The Hogs, are a husband and wife who each have a commentary/drama channel on Youtube.

The really got put on the map, so to speak, when Roadhog began doing anti-KJ content. He seems to have garnered a following based on the fact that he was willing to say nasty, low-blow things about Katie Joy.

In 2021 Roadhog reposted content belonging to Todd Paulson (Katie Joy's husband) on his channel, and he did so so outside the parameters of fair use. This lead to Todd copyright striking Roadhog's channel. Being an anti-KJ creator, Roadhog at some point has someone reach out to him with a story alleging that Todd had sexually harassed them, and when Todd struck RH's channel, RH basically said that if Todd didn't lift the strike, he was going to go public with this woman's story.

Roadhog went on to have this accuser, Julie G come onto a panel with him to tell the story, claiming that he was just giving a woman-a victim-a voice. But parts of the stroy didn't add up. This lead to people who'd distanced themselves from the ani-Katie Joy community over it being toxic, doing commentary questioning Roadhog's motives. One such person was the creator Tea Spiracy, who would go on to expose Roadhog for blackmailing Toddd Paulson.

While all this was going on, there were two other situations going on with the hogs that would prove to be important. One was RH's beef with a creator named Real Entertainment News, which saw RH calling Ren's landlords and telling them falsely that he was a child abuser, among other things. The other was that Mr. And Mrs. Hog claimed they had a baby on the way. The beef between RH and Ren got so bad at one point that Ren basically wished harm on the hogs' unborn child, which didn't exactly endear Ren to the community. For a while Marissa was defending Mrs. Hog, even though it was becoming more clear by the day how problematic Mr. RH was.

Eventually this pregnancy story started to fall apart as well, when 9 months had passed and there was no baby, Mrs. was outted for using stock ultrasound photos as proof, and it was pointed out that she drank alcohol on livestreams she did while she was supposedly pregnant. Naturally, questioning a woman's pregnancy isn't fashionable, and so some people took a little heat for their remarks, but cracks had already formed, and it would eventually fall completely apart.

Because of her persistence in calling them out, Tea Spiracy became a target of harassment and general natiness by both Roadhog and some of his internet buddies. At one point, Just Dom, who was one of RH's mods at the time, admitted to false-flagging 73 of Tea Spiracy's videos. Her sobriety and mental health was questioned, but over all she kept coming with the evidence.She also was able to out the fact that the Hogs have a very dysfunctional family life, owing in part to Mrs's sister-in-law and mother giving Tea Spiracy interviews that confirmed as much.

[sirenium]

hey can intersex people call out problematic shit perisex people say without someone opposing us like we just advocated for the murder of someone's grandma? A transmasc TikTok compilation on YouTube had a TikTok that advocated for perisex transmascs claiming to have a 'hormone deficiency' in order to pass, and I pointed out that pretending to be intersex to 'avoid' stigma is a super fucking shitty thing to do, and the creator was all like 'not only intersex people have hormone deficiencies uwu' like pal not only is that iffy in terms of factual correctness it's also just further erasure. I pointed out that entitled perisex transmascs shouldn't fucking go around telling people they have hypogonadism and this person's FIRST INSTINCT is to go 'well not just intersex people-' shut up please.

[blossomthepinkbunny]

Vivzepop will always be the biggest issue with her own show if she doesn't change. And i'm not saying that because I desperately want to shit on her but rather because it's so clear that her attitude is what made Hazbin Hotel be so dissapointing after the long wait. The pilot released four years ago and Viv had these characters for much longer than that. One could assume that with this much time on her hands she would have a concise plan for how a series of her story would play out (I can imagine that having an own show is a dream for lots of creative people out there). And I get that that plan might get screwed up by a shorter episode count then expected, but she should be the one who knows her story best and who should know what stuff could also be cut out. The first season of Hazbin Hotel is so incredibly overstuffed with characters and plot that it completely looses the main premise the show was originally pitched with (the idea of a hotel were sinners are redeemed. As it is now the hotel is really not important at all). People have talked endlessly about how Viv can't handle criticism and it really sucks because criticism is one of the best ways to improve your writing, drawings, music etc. Without criticism you won't refine the thing you're working on in a meaningful way. Of course it feels bad when you put something out there you wanted to share and then people critique it, but that's part of pretty much every creative journey, or atleast it should be and Vivzepop shouldn't get a pass from this just because she doesn't like it. And there are great shows, movies or books that are rarely or almost never criticised. But the artists behind these works probably went trough years of honing what they do by being criticised for the stuff they put out. And I don't want to say that Vivzepop didn't work hard to make Hazbin Hotel, but it is hard to claim that she improves in her craft, when everytime someone says they don't like her show she throws a hissy fit. She wants the same reactions that these other amazing pieces of media get without ever listening to criticism. Which she sees as a personal attack rather than a tool that could help her to achieve the same level of writing prowess the creators behind media like that have. She believes she is already on the same level as them, just because she basically shuts anyone out who disagrees with her. There's this clip at the end of a Drew Gooden Video which I think sums up the situation with Viv pretty good (the Video is called "Leaving the YouTube Bubble"). He is talking about Lily Singh and her talk show but I feel like a lot of the stuff he says about handling criticism applies to Vivzepop as well.

(you might have to turn up the audio).

Unprofessional behaviour like that might be excusable when the creator is pretty young or they are interacting with publicity for the first time really. But neither of that applies to Viv. And Hazbin Hotel isn't just an indie animation pilot on youtube anymore. It's now a fully realized show created with a pretty prominent studio on a major streaming network and it should be held to the same standards as other shows or movies alike (not saying indie animation or animation on youtube doesn't have a standard but with more budget and support, there's obviously going to be different expectations for the show now). There have been issues in Helluva Boss and the Hazbin Hotel pilot ever since their release which could've been handled with more time and the new show. But Vivzepop shows time and time again that she isn't willing to listen to people who criticise her, which could actually lead to her show getting better. I don't like Viv or her work a lot. I think she is incredibly unprofessional and she has done her fair share of questionable or problematic stuff, which often leads to issues in her shows. There have been some characters I like, some songs or scenes that were pretty well done, very cool animation and an actually interesting premise on paper in HH and HB. There are things that make me come back to these shows to watch the next episode. And i'm obviously passionate enough about these shows to make whole posts about what I think was done badly and what could be changed. But for the aspects of HH or HB I enjoy, there are soo many more problems I have with it. Problems that won't go away unless Viv stops seeing every criticism as a personal attack. Because if Vivzepop doesn't stop acting like her writing is some unreachable stuff that needs no changes I don't really see a point in assuming that these shows will ever get better.

[monstersandgirls-webcomic]

I hate people who use tts to "dub" creators works without giving them credit. Unfortunately that is how I found your content. I saw your comic in a thumbnail, disliked the video and went off to find the person who made the comic. About an hour and a half later I had read your entire works and I'm addicted to your stuff now.

My question is: how would your OCs deal with people who make that sort of "content" in their own way? (Big fuck off longsword impaling the YouTube video would be funny for powers)

Thank you for enjoying it! and yeah its unfortunate, I gave people permission to dub my works as long as they credit me but I cannot stand the TTS dubs. I've even seen some of them edit my comics for not goddamn reason (the amount of consensual comics that have dialogue re-edited to sound more problematic and then I'M blamed for it is wild)

I would imagine Prince would try to wipe those videos off the map because they finds that stuff unholy and evil and Lili would probably make her own tts comics and then put it under a random username.

I think Sera and Powers actually wouldn't care too much. they're annoying but at least the humans aren't doxxing each other

[crimsonender]

Why do you care so much about Lily Orchard

Actually getting this a little backwards. I took notice of Lily Orchard as an individual earlier this year, back in January to March, when she was listed amongst a series of trans creators that are unfairly scrutinized. As she was the only one who had a Tumblr at the time I began following her because I wanted to basically spite transphobes. I've come under fire myself for being trans in the past.

What I discovered in the months I followed her is that she had awful takes and was really dismissive and sometimes outright mean to her fans. I went to a live stream or two, and I watched a couple videos. I soon became critical of her, and decided to do some research. This lead me to Hiding in Private and Sai Scribbles. At the time, I was focused on Lily being a bad YouTuber, both in terms of content and how she treated her fans.

I knew that no one else was going to cover her video on the Coffin of Andy and Leyley because most people dismiss this gothic horror game as problematic and incestuous. As a fan of the genre and the game itself I decided to cover the video. Then as a spur of the moment decision at the end of that stream I decided to cover her latest Kingdom Hearts video as well. This would turn into a an edited video later on where I was very insistant on not focusing on Lily's actions and the allegations. I was mostly concerned with her rhetoric and behaviour as a YouTuber, because I had been wanting to talk about media analysis for a long time. As you can see from my coverage on MatPat, Anita Sarkiseen, Anthony Gramgulia, and iDubbbz. I think there is something fundamentaly flawed with the way the modern internet analyzes media. Each of these individuals has contributed negatively to this rhetoric in their own way, but where people like Anthony and iDubbbz and even Sarkiseen have tried to improve (and in Anthony's case a large reason for the majority of his writing that is worthy of criticism was how he was editorialized by the publications he worked for) Lily has always doubled down and gotten worse. Moreover my biggest issue with Lily right now is how she interacts with her fandom, which is unique to her. She has been publically very sexual towards them, she encourages anti-intellectualism, has a history of abuse, so yeah that definitely is a factor. My last two videos were less about her media analysis and more about how she interacts with her audience and the world around her. I think people like Lily are dangerous.

I don't hate everyone I cover. I'm friends with Anthony and I like his videos and style of writing. He's not perfect but he's also very open to criticism. iDubbbz I'm not a big fan of but for the most part I'm fairly indifferent to. MatPat's videos while I'm highly critical of them, are somewhat of a guilty pleasure for me and I've been watching him since he released his first Starfox video. Sarkiseen I am more critical of but acknowledge she was one of the first people to make videos about feminism in modern media on the scale she was doing it. I wouldn't say anything these people are doing is dangerous.

If Lily was just some woman on the internet with a bad opinion then I probably wouldn't care. It's Lily's control over such a large number of people that worries me. Dismantling her rhetoric is how we show the people she has control over a way out. It's how we teach people that have been trained to turn their brain off that they should think for themselves. Videos like Joon the King's covering her allegations are important don't get me wrong, but unless we teach people to think for themselves, they're just going to fall for the next grifter to come along. The crux of the matter is that no one person should dictate what your opinion is based on how big of a fan you are of them. This problem is so much bigger than Lily. Lily just represents this issue to such a large degree.

[jealousmartini]

Fun fact! In my home reality, I am an interent sensation whose been around since 2016 on youtube, known for:

My 2 hour long rambles about my personal opinions of random stuff. My first youtube video was actually of me rambling about something. This was when I intend to use my youtube account like a journal. Back in 2016 to 2018, my topics and opinions was seen as either really intriguing, strange, or pretty valid. But over 2020 and onwards, tiktok gets a hold of my videos and all of a sudden I'm a "problematic creator" lmao.

[ Fun fact! In a series I made in 2018 called "The purpose of life" I talk about law of Assumption, manifestation and the theory of there only being one way to live life correctly is the most popular series I made, and I am openly a manifester. ]

My art and animations. I am an OG animation meme artist, responsible for a load of some well known animation meme trends in the animation/artist community, my persona, Keisha (full name Keisha la keisha) is one of the most iconic, well loved and synonymous persona in the art community, on youtube if not on the Internet.

[ Things "Keisha la keisha" (me) is known for/things that remind everyone of keisha: ]

Quiches. It's literally in her name

Her iconic half up, half down spikey hairstyle

the colour orange, oranges, her first orange tshirt, LITERALLY anything that is orange (koi fish, pumpkins, carrots, the sun and stars literally anything)

Jerseys in any possible form (jersey themed mini dresses, jersey shirts, jersey themed jackets) and off the shoulder shirts

My iconic headphones with antennas

the numbers "06" and "20" (my birthday is 20/06/06)

red panda's (its her representative animal) bunnies (I own two bunnies named tiff and maple)

a series I'm making called "My name isn't Keisha" (click here and scroll to the bottom to understand)

Charms (mainly because my fanbase name is called charmings)

Martinis (because of my account names envious martini and jealous martini)

My art styles, known as the "Martini's artstyles"

Names the Internet refer to me as:

The Quiche tm., Quiche(a), spikey buns, literally any type of orange (Satsuma, tangerine), the manifesting martini,

My music. As i am an active artist, i am also an active music producer. Most of my music has been used for animation memes, tiktok audios, and a lot of people mistake me for a kpop artist (it's one of my most popular genres along side jersey club).

My face being clipped from my livestreams as meme reactions. You'd be suprised at THE AMOUNT of memes made from my videos there is literally a trend on tiktok called "'I don't know keisha/envious martini-' YES YOU DO." where fans will make a compilation of tiktok audios that actually originated from my videos

The meme "Are they lovers?" "Worse" because of mine and Rodrigo's very popular relationship throughout the years

Being known as "the most uncancellable creator", "Youtube's best animator"

Would you be a Charming? ((o(^∇^)o))

[quarterbackbutch]

I hate whenever a youtuber or popular creator is exposed for something and people go "that's why [insert list of other creators here] are the only true unproblematic faves" like ohhhh you're just setting yourself up for massive disappointment my man. the sooner you learn everyone you admire is capable of disappointing you, the better. take it from me and my legion of problematic faves