#Pluto in the 2nd house

[vivmaek]

PLUTO IN THE 2nd HOUSE; Observations

Having this placement is an indicator of wealth. Pluto rules over the extreme and this is definitely seen with the natives finances, many wealthy people have this placement. They have an instinctive knowledge when it comes to handling money, and they know which tactics to use in order to get money from other people. (Pluto rules over the 8th house.) They make for convincing salespeople and have a magnetic quality when striking a deal. They also reign financial control over others. Pluto second housers are resourceful. However, if Pluto is negatively afflicted, this may point to periods of both extreme wealth and extreme poverty. These natives want to find power through the material realm. They might have some sort of trauma centered on money, and are desperate to avoid a similar situation from occurring. People with this placement are incredibly possessive over their resources and things of value. Pluto second housers become rather intense when they feel as if their possessions are being infringed upon. They become obsessed with their desires and when they want something, they want it now. At times, they can be overly materialistic and money-oriented. There is also a tendency for them to objectify their loved ones. They have a fear of letting go and goodbyes are not easy for them. They will maintain relationships that do not serve them simply because they don’t like the idea of people moving on without them. If someone walks away or abandons them, it feels as if something is being taken away from the Pluto second houser. These individuals are strategic in goal setting and have no issue in accomplishing what they truly want. Those with this placement are secretive about their financial matters and are never going to reveal how much wealth they’ve accumulated. Even with clothing, cars, and other luxury items, they are not flashy and prefer to keep things tasteful. However, they are still heavily dependent on such things and can be snobbish at times. During this lifetime, people with this placement must work of their relationship with attachment. Their need for control is only going to exasperate attachment issues. Embracing impermanence and learning that sometimes great things can be found within the unknown will help. I always have faith in Pluto placements and their capacity for change, it truly is an admirable trait. Pluto brings with it great challenges, but they are never impossible to overcome.

[elysiansparadise]

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How’s your day/evening/night going for you so far? & how have you been? I really love how insightful and detailed your interpretations are of certain aspects, degrees, etc. !! I’d like to ask for your interpretation on Pluto in the 2H ❀

Thank you very much for your time & energy <3. I hope you have a lovely day/evening/night wherever you are ! & take care !!

Hello love, my day has been good so far. I hope yours is going very good. It's my pleasure to talk about this placement. Have a lovely day. 🌹

Pluto in the 2nd house

These natives could feel very insecure in the earliest stages of their life, they could feel that their stability was somehow taken away from them or that they had never had that tranquility or safe place. These natives can be somewhat insecure about themselves, because this house, beyond talking about money, tells us about our self-esteem, one day they may love themselves a lot and others find it hard to look at themselves in the mirror. Perhaps at some point in their life they have been made to feel that they are worthless, that they do not deserve some things or that there was a problem with them. They fear the idea of ​​not being enough either for themselves or for others, they hate the idea of ​​begging another person for money or love. Since we mentioned the subject of money and relationships, this placement usually indicates a somewhat jealous partner or a tendency to attract somewhat positive people, especially if it's aspecting Venus, Jupiter or Moon. These natives are very ambitious for money, they want to go far and finally feel that they have that security that they lacked when they were younger [again, not only financially, but rather in general]. People with this placement may feel that they do not have many people that they can rely on, that there is no one to turn to when things go wrong and as time goes by they become more and more self-sufficient.

These natives have a hard time feeling that they want to be very close to other people, they are very selective with the people they are close to but once they choose their person, they will love spending a lot of time with them, having them and feeling them close and making them feel safe. If Pluto is making many tense aspects, the native may be somewhat jealous. They are people who could have had a hard time learning to set boundaries in their youth, but today or as they grow up, they have them perfectly marked and will make them respect no matter what. Something that this placement may indicate is being able to earn a lot of money in the future, reach a position of power or simply reaffirm that if the day comes where they can have everything they ever wanted, then the planet of power is positioned in the house of finance. These people may have a lot of skill in managing finances. You can earn money in many ways and make those earnings bigger with investments.  They favor jobs or forms of income in which they are self-employed or in a leadership role. They can work in companies, such as entrepreneurs, economists, notaries, doctors, things that have to do with research might be a possibility too, law, criminology, psychology or psychiatry.

These people fear the idea of ​​losing control of their lives, they may have been in somewhat controlling environments, be it family, friendship or romance, which makes them much more perceptive when someone tries to play with their mind. These people are not stingy at all, however they know who to lend money to or not, they may be annoyed that you grab their things without permission, even if you are a close friend. They value that their privacy is respected, since it is something very important to them. They dislike when others intrude on their private life or do not respect their moments alone. Although it may not seem like it, these natives are usually very careful with those things that are of emotional value to them, they do not care how much it costs, the emotional value is more powerful than the material on many occasions. Many of these natives dress quite well, and they care enough about their appearance, they love the idea of ​​feeling powerful with the clothes they choose. They usually have a lot of appeal and a very seductive or sensual voice, they transmit power through their voice.

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[silversnake888]

@ji-jii-visha

For your birth chart Q&A:

You have some placements I haven't asked questions about yet.

You have Pluto in the 2nd house, do you have issues with your voice? It can be raspiness in your voice, or you have issues with literally talking (like being mute). Anything inflicting with your voice counts.

You have Chiron in the 3rd house, were there issues with your early education? It could be you took long breaks from school, you had to move schools a lot, etc.

You have Pisces Mars in the 5th house, how do you pursue your creativity desires? Do you dream about them a lot? What creative pursuits do you like?

You have Sun conjunct Venus, do you consider yourself a person who is extremely focused on beauty (your own beauty, other's beauty, etc) and any creative things that relate to beauty?

Feel free to reply/reblog or send in an ask saying if you agree/disagree with my observations.

[sighbor123]

Financial Astrology Observations

Venus in the 2nd House, people value their appearance, and know how to dress themselves from head to toe. These people enjoy spending money on quality clothes, and jewelry. Venus in the 2nd house people can have a slight obsession with jewelry and accessorizing.

Venus conjunct Uranus in the 2nd house, can make someone an impulsive spender, but 9 times out of 10 they won’t regret the purchases that they made. 😂💖

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Pluto in the 2nd House ( I have this placement in Sagittarius), can make someone an impulsive spender at a young age. As we mature and get older, we begin to view money differently. Once we begin to work more in the real world we truly begin to understand how hard we have to work to obtain money, because of this we tend to hold onto our money and save it for rainy days. We live by the concept “money doesn’t grow on trees.” Having this placement was truly a transformative experience for me I went from impulsive spending to going broke to getting a job, and taking several classes on financial literacy. I can’t envision my self going broke EVER again! 🤣

Taurus in the big 3 ( Sun, Moon, or Rising), can give someone a deep interest in watching shows, movies, and books about money, investments, money laundering, instructional guides on how to become a millionaire and early retirement. Examples: Wolf of Wall Street, Shark Tank, American Greed, and Good Girls. 💸 Taurus in the big 3 live by the phrase “money talks” or “follow the money.” We are also prone to choosing careers and other endeavorers that are money related.

Jupiter or Sagittarius in the 2nd House, are the kind of people that would rather put money towards experiences that can broaden their mind, such as traveling and learning about philosophy overseas. These people genuinely value money, I’d say they live by the philosophy of “money can take you places” 🍹

The 8th house talks about the money of other people, earnings through other people, credits, loans, grants, bank money, inheritance, and spouses money

Saturn in the 8th house (especially in Taurus), are often able to acquire loans from extend family such as in-laws, however Saturn’s nature in 8th house in the sign of taurus can cause the person acquiring the loan to take a very long time to pay off the debt, or unable to repay the loan completely. So if you have this placement especially in the sign of taurus, be carful not over-ask in your loan amount if you can’t repay the debt within a reasonable amount of time. Saturn in the 8th has strong Karmic ties, but thats a topic for another day...🌊

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[plutoswrath]

Do you have any thoughts on having pluto, lilith and chiron together in the 2nd house?

Fear of loss and going hand in hand with that are control issues, working hard in order to feel secure , not only in life but also in themselves, serious self esteem issues can arise here as someone can struggle with seeing what they're worth, self esteem could've been destroyed by past experience of an instable foundation, identifying too much with what they have materially/look like, greed and possessiveness, perhaps desiring the absence of materialism because it makes them feel trapped, material goods can potentially compensate for emotional pains and past hurts, values tie to a desire to become free of being controlled by ressources, thus can become a master of balancing and maintaining or even multiplying it, someone who can become obsessed with the idea of wealth, can be extremely ambitious (almost depserate) to reach their goals, but can unfortunately suffer with letting go for the better, fear of spending anything or saving for their dearest life, can fluctate heavily between those extremes with pluto involved

[catmarlowastrology]

Hello! I was wondering how a Venus in Virgo at 8 degrees in the 11th square Pluto in the third in Sag at 8 degrees might manifest? I’ve always had a difficult time trying to interpret this and I’d appreciate your help!! Thank you so much 🥰

Hello! Alright, let me brainstorm a little bit:

Venus in Virgo in the 11th house: Virgo in the 11th house likes to handpick their friends and the groups they associate with. Venus here would indicate someone who enjoys spending time with few people; their community also tends to be more feminine than masculine. They like to be helpful and will show their love in a practical way (acts of service). The 8th degree is a Scorpio degree which means that there could be some subtle power and control happening (which seems to be confirmed with the square to Pluto). Venus in Virgo are often taught to be humble and to not ask for too much in return.

Usually, the 11th and the 3rd house form a trine. I'll give you the Whole Signs description too, just in case it resonates more.

Pluto in the 3rd house in Sagittarius: 3rd house Sags are enthusiastic and optimistic about their environment; they enjoy communicating with other people and are naturally open-minded. Pluto here would indicate someone who tightly controls what they say and is more suspicious when it comes to others. They struggle with vulnerability and are careful about what they say; saying too much wakes up a wound, and the survival mechanism of Pluto kicks in.

Pluto in the 2nd house in Sagittarius: The tight control and slight obsession would manifest regarding possessions and personal value. If you have been told to give your time and affection to your friends (Virgo-Pisces is the axis of service), you have to sacrifice some of your personal possesions (money, energy...). This struggle revealed by the square would indicate someone who doesn't want to be taken advantage of by others but who also cannot resist the impulse to be friendly, to please and accommodate their friends.

Venus square Pluto has a dark experience with love and relationships and they are extremely sensitive to any form of control over them. That's why some natives are the ones who end up controlling and manipulating their partners.

Everything here seems to point out to a difficult experience with other people, but also a desire to connect and bond. It's a clash of energies; the native wants to be part of the group and to love openly, but is also deeply afraid of being taken advantage of by others. This raw emotion often comes from an early negative relationship with someone; the native was asked to give more in the relationship, to sacrifice a part of themselves, and received very little in exchange.

Hopefully this makes sense! Kinda hard to put into words the energy of this square. ^^

[moo-nstone]

PLUTO AND THE TRAUMA YOU’VE EXPERIENCED

­­ — THE FIRST HOUSE: A lot of these people suffered bullying from a young age, most likely due to your appearance/something that was completely out of control. Feeling extremely isolated from others in your childhood, like you could never connect with the people around you and, because of that, you’ve learned to be independent and to never trust others. Now, it’s difficult for you to open up even to your closest friends, and you fear that you’ll always feel alone. You can’t stand feeling misunderstood and, because of that, you can be very obsessed with “studying” the trauma you experienced through astrology and therapy, and you feel very triggered when someone misunderstands your intentions and misconstrues your words. A feeling that the world is against you. Someone having “taken” something away from you - your freewill, innocence, power of choice. People who either get repulsed by you or obsessed about you when you’re just sitting there and being yourself, and it’s out of your control which. Having been stalked in the past. A compulsive need to be private and keep things to yourself, a fear that other people are going to take everything away from you, especially the ones you love.. that they’ll turn them against you. Being treated like a sexual object, being sexually exploited. A fear that you’ll never be able to let go of your need for control. A fear that you attract too much chaos/people who are very chaotic themselves into your life. The feeling that, at the end of the day, you’ll always be alone with your fears, sadness and experiences that you haven’t found the courage to tell others. A feeling that you’ll never feel safe or comfortable.

— THE SECOND HOUSE: You don’t understand your own emotions and that gives you a lot of frustration and anxiety. You might’ve struggled your whole life with an emotional intensity that had you swinging from being at your happiest and most cared for in one moment and at the depths of despair and distress in the next. Your sense of self-worth fluctuates with unpreditability and yo can go from being overly confident to extremely insecure. Your passions constantly change and, because of that, it’s hard for you to know what you want to pursue in your life. You might’ve experienced a lot of distrust from others from a very young age, especially when it came to financial matters. You were accused of stealing, lying, perhaps even committing crimes. You felt like you had to work twice as hard to gain people’s trust and your parents, the ones who were supposed to protect you, were the first to be suspicious of everything you did. It’s like people are waiting for you to commit any sort of mistake so they can lash out on you and blame you for everything. You can become unproductive and start procrastinating as soon as you start feeling sad, self-sabotaging your own success because you’re afraid of failure, of putting your heart to something and then, all your efforts going to waste. Fear of losing the ones you love so you become possessive over them, or you attract people who are possessive of you and treat you like their property, making you feel suffocated in relationships. The fear that you’ll never be financially stable because things always go wrong. Looking at life through a pessimistic lens. The fear that you’ll always have enough to just survive. Having to do immoral things for money that left you feeling disgusted at your own actions. People who invaded your privacy for their personal benefit.

— THE THIRD HOUSE: Having been bullied and possibly physically abused in your early school years. A feeling that you had to “survive” school, that it was a place for pain and anxiety instead of learning. This could have given you a tendency to procrastinate in school and to rebel against it, you might’ve missed classes and it was hard for you to focus on your daily schoolwork but then you got to the tests and you got the highest grade due to your intelligence without needing much study. You might’ve constantly heard that you’re wasting your potential and intelligence simply because you didn’t care for school. From a very young age, you might’ve always felt the need to escape your house and neighborhood, and you took every opportunity you could get to stay away, which could have been the source of a lot of arguments at home. You were painted as the black sheep of the family, misunderstood by your parent figures because they couldn’t understand how their toxicity drove you to want to stay away from them and how school brought you trauma and anxiety. Relationship with siblings could’ve been very troubled, parents you pit you two against each other, a feeling that you had to compete with your siblings for their love, that they were the golden child while you were the disappointment of the family. You can also feel a strong need to protect your sibling from your parents and in school, that you want to teach them and be their role model because they had no one to set the good example.

— THE FOURTH HOUSE: You wanted to take refuge in your home when the outside world got hard again, you wanted a place to retreat to and find peace and wisdom, but soon you likely found out that it’s inside your home that the monsters laid. Your parent figures can have been extremely emotionally manipulative, in a way that took you years to understand: they showed you they loved you, treated you like their pride and prized possession, but they also tried to control you, invade your privacy, leading you to feel like an extension of them. You might’ve witnessed toxic and abusive relationship dynamics in your childhood; relationships filled with power-struggles and betrayal, obsession and possessiveness, arguments and competition. A lot of these people had one parent who cheated, making them feel like they had to compete with the other person. The relationship with the mother figure might’ve been a very confusing one: on one hand, you were close to her to the point where you needed each other more than anything, but at the same time, she might’ve been toxic and tried to live vicariously through you, wanting you to live out the dreams she never could. Even if the family home was loving and instilled in you values of hard-work and passion for anything you got involved in, there might’ve been one (or more) particular event that left you traumatized, feeling robbed of your power and strength. The family home can be exhausting, as if your parents expect you to be the one to take care of them and solve their problems. You fear becoming like the ones who mistreated you, you fear never being able to protect others in the way you never were. There might be an inability to trust here; you feel like you’ll never be able to fully trust and be vulnerable with someone because you want to always guard your heart from anyone who has the potential to break it.

— THE FIFTH HOUSE: When you love something, you love hard and this itself can feel terrifying at times. You understand how loyal and devoted you can be towards your passions, and you fear putting your heart into something then watching it fail miserably in front of your eyes. Fear of rejection and failure. You tend to procrastinate and purposefuly avoid going after your passions because you don’t want to watch your dreams die in front of you. There might be a fear of having children here, a fear of raising your kids the same way you were raised or not being able to meet your own expectations, a fear of not being able to emotionally connect with them, a fear of them living through pain and traumatic events without you being aware of it. It can be difficult for you to have one-night stands because you get very emotionally attached to people even if you don’t like showing it. Relationships can be filled with drama, chaos, obsession and lack of boundaries/lack of respect for the others’ privacy. There might be trust and intimacy issues here, where you get involved in casual dating but suddenly you’re jealous of other people who your person is seeing. You try to manipulate your romantic partners in order to feel in control of the relationship, a way for you to subtly self-sabotage your chances at happiness. You might mistake having a big ego for loving yourself, covering your deep-seated insecurities under a cocky attitude. The intensity of your emotions can scare you at times. You compare yourself to others because you fear truly loving yourself. You fear stability, you’re so used to living alongside chaos that you don’t know who you are without it – just the mere idea of sitting alone with your thoughts for a moment of peace can feel scary.

— THE SIXTH HOUSE: A fear that there’s no stability and peace in your day-to-day life because something’s disruptive is constantly happening. Your health doesn’t normally get bad but when it does, it’s awful. A feeling that you live life on survival mode. The death of a pet of your that deeply scarred you. Parents who tried to control you and every little habit of yours in your childhood. being constantly criticized; a feeling that you had to fit a certain image to please others. Being expected to always be at your prettiest and calmest, to be the adult among children, to take on the mature role. A fear that you’ll never be enough in your own eyes, a constant striving for perfection that only leaves you feeling more pained. a fear that you will never cease your need for control. A voice in your head that criticizes everything you do - you have become your own worst enemy. A fear that you’ll keep getting stuck with looking at the world through pessimistic eyes, eyes that have witnessed its cruelty. A fear of losing hope. A fear of not finding a job that fulfills your immense passion, and that you’ll always work too hard without getting the recognition for it. Coworkers who try to gain control over you, who belittle you and see you as their competition, who try to make your life living hell and who, in turn, discourage you from pursuing your career. Being overly sexualized at work. The feeling that it’s going to always be you to solve others’ problems and to be their savior, but at the end of the day, no one will be there for you. It’s like people already expect you to be the strong one so they don’t even ask if you need help. Having parent figures whose health is fragile so you have to take care of them, the feeling that you have to forget your own needs to take care of them.

— THE SEVENTH HOUSE: Always being the therapist friend, the one who holds others’ lives together. Parent figures who had a broken marriage; witnessing toxic relationships in your childhood that left you with a warped sense of what love means. The fear of getting into a relationship that mirrors the ones in your childhood; the fear of becoming just like your parent figures. Betrayal comes from those closest to you – your family members, your best friends, your romantic partners. Associating love with pain and grief and loss. The fear that no one will match your level of intensity and devotion in love, that you’re always going to get involved with people who are flaky, inconsistent, who betray your trust and who try to control you. The fear that you always attract the wrong type of people, that all your relationships are filled with power-struggles, possessiveness, drama and obsession rather than pure, healthy love. In the past, it might’ve been very difficult for you to feel fulfilled in a stable relationship, you always need it to be all-consuming and passionate but then, when it ended, you couldn’t even remember who you were before that person and the pain the end of the connection caused. You might’ve lost yourself and your sense of identity in relationships, giving your 100% to a partner who could only take and never give. Fear of abandonment, rejection, losing the people you love the most. Having been emotionally manipulated in relationships, used in your most vulnerable state.

— THE EIGHTH HOUSE: The death of a loved one that deeply scarred you, fear of intimacy all while feeling a compulsion to engage in it. Sexual experiences could’ve been traumaziting and like the other person was trying to take control of you during the act. There might be a fear of sex due to a fear of surrendering to someone else. Feeling a strong darkness inside of you that threatens to engulf you with every step you take. Fear of your deepest thoughts. Fear both of change and of not changing at all, you might constantly feel stuck, like you’re still holding on to the past when you know you should let go of it and stop giving it the power to control you. A feeling that everyone is always trying to take something from you, to impose themselves on you. Your parents might’ve taken away your money and possessions. A fear of “revealing” yourself to others, and at the same time, that no one will ever truly know you. Fear of someone taking power over you. A strong connection with death, fluctuates between fear of death and fascination with it. A fear from a young age that you only bring destruction wherever you go. Always feeling the need to run away when you get too close to someone, scared of becoming emotionally attached because you know that your love and loyalty knows no boundaries. These people often tend to experience an almost debilitating feeling of powerlessness throughout their childhood and adolescence that can have them stuck in the mentality of “I’m weak and I won’t ever rise above this”, and it takes them a lot to come out of their shell, to accept and embrace their power.

— THE NINTH HOUSE: Having been raised in an environment that didn’t allow you to express your beliefs and personal thoughts; parent figures who tried to control you and mold you however they saw fit into their puppet, parents who enforced their philosophies on you even though you didn’t agree to them. Having your power taken away in your childhood, feeling imposed on, restricted from your freedom, which now makes you feel paranoid everytime someone tries to constrict you in any possible way. Going through life with a “I’ve only got me, I can’t trust no one else” mindset, fear of letting people in due to how much you long to stay independent. You’re at your most self-destructive when you feel that someone is trying to hold you down, control you and manipulate your thoughts. You had to fight for your freedom and individuality so now you can’t stand that being taken away, which can result in a feeling of claustrophobia when in a long-term relationship and sabotaging everything to make sure the other person will leave you so you won’t havee to trust them, rely on them. The fear that your life will never have a purpose and that unpredictable, traumatic experiences will keep happening that completely change your mindset and sense of direction in life. The feeling that the universe purposelly fucks up your life and makes you go through pain in order to change and evolve. The fear that you’ll never be in any way stable and reliable because you go through constant transformations when it comes to your beliefs and thinking processes.

— THE TENTH HOUSE: Being treated like a product and not a person. You might’ve experienced hostility from those in power, as if they’re threatened by your potential and go out of their way to make you feel like you’re less than them. In your workplace, other coworkers treat you like their competition and like you don’t deserve the success you’ve been given, spreading rumours about you or talking shit about you to the boss. You might’ve experienced aggression from “masculine” figures (it doesn’t have to be specifically from men but from those who are agressive, powerful, dominant; those who are older and more “mature”), people who want to take control over you and manipulate you for their benefit. In your career, you can be objectified and perhaps others make you feel like you got the job simply because you’re attractive and not because you worked hard for it, undervaluing you and your efforts. A period in your childhood where authority figures didn’t believe you and ridiculed you when they should’ve listened to you. Having your power stripped away from you in your earlier years, making you crave to have control again – now, you want to be in charge, you want understanding, you want to be in control of yourself; but this can have you trying to exert power over others, manipulate them before they have the chance to manipulate you. You seek control in everything that surrounds you and that heightens your anxiety every time something doesn’t go according to your plans. A feeling that tragedy follows you around, a paranoia that things are going to go wrong any second now. A fear that you’ll always have your talents and habilities underestimated.

— THE ELEVENTH HOUSE: Betrayal from friendgroups, your earlier years might’ve been traumatizing when it came to friendships. It’s like people got close to you for the sole purpose of destroying your self-esteem, of discovering your secrets just so they could air them out to everyone you knew, or spreading rumors about you and wanting you to feel embarrassed/ridiculed of every step you took. It might’ve been very difficult for you to work on your self-esteem and it might still be an on-going battle, where you see yourself as worthless and like people will always use you as the butt of their jokes. Friends who invalidated your trauma, didn’t believe you and went out of their way to befriend the people who hurt you. You fear that you’ll never be able to fit in with the society where you live because your opinions are seen as too controversial and extreme when most of the time they can simply be progressive and open-minded. You might be surrounded by narrow-minded, prejudiced, conservative people. Your parent figures might ridicule your dreams and ambitions and make you feel like you’ll never achieve anything, that you’re too idealistic and delusional. You might feel like you had to disappoint your family in order to go down your own path because they didn’t support you and wanted you to follow in their footsteps. The suffering of the world might deeply affect you and you find yourself paralyzed by injustices that happened to other people as if you felt them in your skin yourself. You yearn for deep and intimate friendships but you might’ve been disappointed over and over again. You give yourself fully to the people in your lives to the point where they start taking you for granted.

— THE TWELFTH HOUSE: You notice even the subtlest changes in others’ behavior, how they said hi in a slightly different tone and what that might imply… being so perceptive of everything that’s going around you feels emotionally draining to the point where you’re left with your anxieties and paranoias of not being enough for others, believing you should be stronger, you should be more reliable, you should be easier to love. Your mind is your greatest enemy and when you sit alone with your thoughts, you hear all the self-doubt, guilt and fears that are threatening to destroy all chance for stability. You can have nightmares that fill you with stress, making you fear go to sleep and you can stay up all night because it’s the only time of the day where you can be by yourself without having to put a mask of happiness for others – during the day, you’re expected to take care of others, to save them, to put their needs above your own, but at night, you can finally breathe. Your childhood can be a blur of moments you can’t comprehend and things you’d rather forget, and you might’ve been ridiculed for your emotional sensitivity. You were told you’re too emotional, obsessive, stupid for giving your heart to the wrong people. You can be very self-destructive as a way to escape reality, wishing you could just turn your feelings off. You repress your emotions and bury them deep within yourself. You might’ve dealed with drug abuse and mental illness/people around you who struggled with it and it affected you deeply. You feel others’ pain as if it’s your own. You fear asking others for help, being seen as weak. You fear that you’ll never be in control of yourself, that your emotions will always be too intense. 

[astroismypassion]

Hi! My 2nd house is in Scorpio and my 8th house is in Taurus. My Pluto is in the 2nd house and my Venus is in the 8th house. I found this interesting. Any thoughts on it?

Hello there,

yes I think that here it might be the case of you needing to share your values, likes, dislikes, items, possessions with others. Or other people will help you achieve 2nd house topics (that is work ethic, items, material wealth, life experiences).

@astroismypassion

[silversnake888]

Hi, there. I hope you are doing well. I'd like to know what are your thoughts on my natal chart.

Hello, thank you for the ask.

You have Mars and Pluto in the 2nd house. Similarly, Mars is conjunct Pluto. Do you have a strong drive for money? However, is it because you have/had issues with money (your family's money for example) in your life? Do you like being secure monetarily?

You have Sun conjunct Mercury, do you pride yourself on your writing/speaking abilities? You have an exalted Mercury, so you have a gift for learning and communication. Virgo Mercuries can excel in the medical field because they can memorize difficult medical terms easily.

You have Moon in the 10th house, the career path you're interested in (or the career you're currently in) is it similar to your family members? I know one Cancer midheaven, and they are in the medical field.

Lastly, you have Saturn in the 8th house, have you had any issues with borrowed money, loans, and/or taxes?

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How would you describe the voice of someone with sag pluto in the 2nd house and cap mars in the 3rd house?

More than the voice, I’d say this person is very goal oriented and know how to get things. Smart.

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Pluto in the houses

Descriptions could be relevant for houses with the cusps in Scorpio or houses that contain Scorpio

1st house: This house is related to one’s sense of self, one’s sense of definition and individuality. It’s related to one’s energetic signature, to one’s way of navigating in the world. It’s a means rather than an end, a way of projecting one’s energy into existence. With Pluto here the force of existence would seem threatening. The person could feel as if he or she walks a tight rope of doom – one tries to avoid intensity yet is so aware of the inevitability of falling. Life becomes an emotional balancing act of trying to protect as much of one’s integrity and power as possible – yet paradoxically, the enormous sensitivity to violation makes it impossible to do so. Pluto here invokes an all consuming experience of being at the mercy of outside forces and at the mercy of one’s own thoughts and emotion. The threat is perceived to come from inside and outside, making it difficult to define the real ”enemy”. In reality, there is no enemy but the person’s sense of self is so fixed and rigid that the slightest sensation is experienced as a potential danger. The problem lies in the fixed sense of self and it’s inability to be flexible. The intensity of an experience is always decided by the person that is exposed to it and the density of one’s own self. The denser the self, the more susceptible it is to go through extremes. A person with this placement is usually guarded and careful, potentially a bit antisocial. Calculated and subtle attack is the best protection, it’s covert enough to not be an open declaration of war, but an effective tool of gaining respect. The person might like to demonstrate power in a way that correlates with the sign Pluto is in in the chart; Pluto in Virgo might exercise control through sharpness of intellect, Pluto in Libra might wield power through beauty and social etiquette. Pluto in the 1st will always take the position of the superior. Irritability comes easy because of heightened sensitivity and the feeling of being irretrievably psychologically and emotionally wounded by the world and themselves. The person would be prone to condemn and judge things for this reason, to cultivate long lasting resentment and disapproval. The person could be likened to a wild animal in the sense that one lives in the atmosphere of primal survival, even though it might be hidden behind sophistication and class. Every day is a matter of life and death, a matter of keeping the self intact in the face of inner and outer attack. Self-destruction and subsequent self-transformation is very possible with this placement. In one’s stubborn attempt to preserve integrity one is forced by life into a death of an old identity that didn’t serve the freedom of the spirit – or the survival of the species.

2nd house: This house is related to the self as it relates to the body, what it can acquire for itself in terms of possessions, money and value in general. It’s a concentrated version of the 1st house, a ”coagulation” of the energy that’s being asserted in the 1st. When Pluto is here the theme of self-value becomes a sore spot and subsequently a matter of great importance for the individual. Material resources would symbolize survival for the person and the need to be in absolute control over one’s finances and money would be pressing. To lose power in this area of life would cause great pain and would be avoided at all costs. Pluto is associated with extremes and with this placement the person could either be extremely wealthy or extremely poor. The presence or the absence of resources would serve the purpose of Pluto equally well because power can be felt through both polarities. Instead of making oneself a slave to money, the person could reject the idea of placing value on physical objects and buy a kind of freedom that way. On the flip side, the person could be very emotionally attached to physical objects, viewing them as an extension of one’s power and guarantee of survival. The way this person would acquire resources would preferably be done in strategic ways. The sign Pluto is in would give a clue as to how the power is wielded; for example, Pluto in Leo could secure money through calculated charm and confidence, through showcasing one’s talents and creative spark. Pluto in Scorpio could do it behind the scenes, through engaging in the dark and dirty businesses of other people. It’s not unlikely that the person would feel paranoid relative to material value, to be constantly worried of getting deprived of things that are needed for survival. The paranoia itself could be worse than the actual threat of not having enough and the person might willingly get rid of all possessions, just for the sake of not being subjected unwillingly to deprivation. Losing face, being taken by surprise and being deceived is unbearable to Pluto and the person might go to great lengths in order to preserve control – even if it means destroying themselves in the process. I imagine the person being able to destroy everything of value that belongs to them rather than letting it fall into the hands of others. If the person can’t have the cake, than no one else should have it either. I should also mention that that 2nd house concerns the body as something one ”possesses” and the person might be very protective or neglecting of the intactness and beauty of it depending on what serves the person’s sense of control.

3rd house: This house is related to the self as it conceptualizes of itself mentally. Learning, simple deduction and the capacity to handle information relates to this house. It also deals with the ability to relate to the immediate environment through the mental faculties. When Pluto is in this house the identity as it relates to mental concepts is fiercely protected. The mental realm is much more flexible and intangible than the material realm but with Pluto here, words can cut through to the core of the person. Verbal and written communication is taken very seriously, to the point of detriment. Not everyone means what they say and words carry different emotional weight for different people. Chances are that the person has little patience for people who talk a lot of crap without considering the impact it could have on others. Reversely, the person could be deliberately insensitive and want to use speech as a way to attack and protect the self. One considers language to be the most powerful weapon, the most effective means to control people. As this house relates to early learning experiences, the school years could’ve been quite intense. The person could’ve been the type of person that was difficult to approach and make friends with because of a strong protective barrier. It’s likely that the person’s intellect would’ve been sharp and probing, wanting to know everything and get down to the core of the subject. The person could’ve been an over the top dedicated learner, a student of insane stamina. The sign Pluto is in would illustrate in what way the intensity expresses itself. For example, Pluto in Sagittarius might be dedicated to find the meaning of experiences, the higher purpose of existence, the spirit of life. Pluto in Gemini might be dedicated to all kinds of information, to variety and the amount of fact-gathering one can achieve. In any case, the person could’ve been the type to ask inappropriate questions, to raise awareness around sensitive topics and bring secrets to the light of everyone’s knowledge. It’s likely that one would’ve been perceived as a potential threat to others because of this – but at the same time a positive force to challenge the mind. The person would seek to shock others with words, to shoot verbal arrows meant to test people’s emotional capacity and resilience. This is truly a placement of a skilled manipulator, which doesn’t have to be a bad thing unless one’s skills are employed to sabotage others. Unfortunately with Pluto, as soon as the heat gets turned up, the survival instinct kicks in and everything becomes equally intense – not attacking vs. attacking, one faces death regardless, the important thing is to remain in control of one’s situation.

4th house: This house is related to the self as it identifies with home, family and roots. It has to do with heritage – what is passed down through generations. It has to do with the ancestral background and the influence it has on one’s sense of self. Some say that this house relates to the father, some say the mother – it’s usually the parent that had the least overt influence. When Pluto is here, emotional and physical survival is the tension point. It could be that the person felt a bit like walking on burning coal in the private familial sphere, the atmosphere would’ve been threatening in some way. It’s not unlikely that the person felt overpowered by one of the parents, forced to give up autonomy and freedom because of being emotionally bound to them. The parent with the least dominant presence could have had strong emotional holds, impacting the person’s actions and behavior in subtle but effective ways. Manipulation can be done unconsciously but I would say that Pluto is not usually unconscious in it’s workings. It might be compulsive, but not genuinely below the surface of consciousness – it’s force is too intense and tied to primitive survival needs. Protection of the home and family could be of utmost importance, to put up a front of strength and integrity to the outside world. The person would derive a sense of superiority and dominance through cultivating and preserving one’s own heritage. Even if the person doesn’t have much of an ancestral background to brag about, there would be a desire to contribute, add to or reinvent the status of the family name. There could be an urge to kill off the old and obsolete, to transform the intolerable and unbearable past and rise from the ashes like a phoenix. It could require a significant amount of shedding the layers of the past in order to come out on the other side of the intensity of the emotional heritage. It would likely be a painful process of not knowing where it leads or if it ever will end. The person might have to process trauma and distressing ancestral scars carried over from past generations. Chances are that the person has the capacity to overcome and transcend it all, but it would take bravery of facing outdated and destructive coping mechanisms. Powerlessness might be the most pressing issue to deal with – how to not overcompensate and cover over but to genuinely transform weakness into strength. Brutal honesty might be crucial to flush wounds to the surface. Pluto often functions to reveal the dark and taboo and one must be willing to face it in order to free oneself from the emotional chokeholds of the past. Psychological protective functions are necessary, but it’s a fine line between healthy protection and destroying the very thing one want to preserve through holding on to it too tightly.

5th house: This house is related to self-expression, creativity, play, gambling and games, romance, and recreational activities of all kinds – including the creation children. The 5th house includes unique talents and interests, hobbies and amusement. When Pluto is here, enjoying oneself is not something that is taken lightly. The person would not stop for anything when it comes to self-expression no matter what other people might think – because it’s a matter of life and death, curiously enough. Whether the person do this through partying, dancing, acting, painting, singing, flirting and frolicking with others, it’s done to release some of the intense emotional buildup. The person might go to extremes in this area of life and have no sense of moderation. There could be a strong pull to immerse oneself in one’s hobbies, to take them to their fullest potential, to invest all of one’s energy into them. This could lead to the development of great skills that might prove beneficial in life, but it could overtake the person’s whole existence. The obsession with the pleasure of one’s interests could border on disregard for necessities such as work and other responsibilities. The sign placement of Pluto could indicate what type of venue the self enjoys to express itself through. For example, Pluto in Capricorn might be methodical and strategic when engaging in hobbies, perhaps turning them into businesses to earn some money. Pluto in Pisces might use hobbies as a way to escape reality, to surrender completely to channeling life through it’s creations as a gift to humanity. In any case, it’s done because of a need to be in control in an almost obsessive way – there’s a need to honor the self and be honored in order to survive - to sharpen one’s skills enough in order to be noticed for one’s specialness. The 5th house is generally an easy-going sphere of life, but when Pluto is here it’s suddenly about life and death. One’s creations and talents are taken very seriously and the person is likely to be extremely sensitive to critique that concerns anything related it the uniqueness of the self. If the person has children, they might become an obsessive focus. The person might be overly protective and concerned with allowing the child freedom of expression. One might strive to provide the child with attention and approval to the point of detriment. The all-consuming love that is felt could be overwhelming and threatening to a young person, not to mention that it could border on possessiveness and over-identification with the child’s actions. The child could feel suffocated and attacked by love. The same would apply to romance and flings – they could get very intense and serious very fast. The person might crave constant love bombing, feeling abandoned and threatened every time the lover fails to look at them with complete adoration.

6th house: This house is related to the way the self organizes and structures its life to make things work practically. It’s related to work, employment and physical health as well as the keeping of small animals. With Pluto here, the way one leads everyday life in terms of chores and necessities is a focal point of intensity. The person would leave nothing to chance in this area of life. One would be dead set on meeting the requirements for the desired employment – not overlooking a single detail of the practicalities. The person could be the type to want to be in charge of the running of the workplace, at the very least have a specific area of expertise that is completely in their own hands. With Pluto there’s always a tendency to go to extremes and the person might be unable to execute things as to ensure a good enough result – things would have to be perfect. Of course, with Pluto it’s not done out of joy or moral obligation, it’s done because it’s a matter of life and death. Anything that doesn’t go according to the plan is not only unfortunate, but a trigger that evokes primal fear. Because of this, the person might be readily trusted to organize things – because everyone else knows that the person would rather die than fail. This could, needless to say, produce a workaholic that is unable to stop in the tracks and relax. The sign Pluto is in would give an indicator as to how the intensity expresses itself. For example, Pluto in Aquarius might compulsively try new things and rearrange their lives in order to get some cohesion and smooth functioning of the practicalities. Pluto in Cancer might strive to preserve and secure that the things that work continue to work for them – and to always have a backup plan in case they don’t. As it relates to physical health, Pluto in this house could cause some injury to be sure. The body could be resilient but be subjected to extreme treatment due to the overall health paranoia. The person might put the body through insane trials in the name of health. The potential that the body is unhealthy or sick could make this person take precautions that are uncalled for and enroll in extreme health regimes. I imagine this type of person exercising every day according to a fixed schedule, eating according to a carefully selected meal plan never allowing room for spontaneity, cravings or laziness. More likely than not the person will self-destruct through overly exercised control in the long run. If the person has pets the animals would probably be taken care of meticulously in the person’s particular way. However, with all this being said Pluto could flip the tables and be anti routine, anti work and anti health. It’s deadly either way – both ways are taking it too far. There’s nothing casual about the survival instinct, it kicks in to fight dirty, desperately and without precautions.

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7th house: This house is related to the self as it finds itself in a social context, in partnerships, business deals, marriage, open enemies and lower court matters. Planets in the 7th house are experienced through other people. When Pluto is here, the primal instinct of control and survival is felt in interaction with other people. The person might perceive other people as a threat of some kind, to one’s emotional well-being and safety. This placement lends itself well to psychological manipulation because the social sphere is a battle field no matter how one looks at it. Other people are out to get the person somehow and one must be prepared as to not fall into the trap of conforming to social pressure. The person would be inclined to remain in command of one’s social presentation, not not fall victim to enemies that seek to invade the integrity of the self. It’s likely that the person would be very aware of the undercurrents in relationships, seeking to always have the upper hand through inflicting pain ever so often. The person would like to remain in a superior position in terms of power at all times. This means that emotional intensity and passion is frequently reversed into coolness, a fake detachment in order to buffer oneself from the effect other people might have on the person emotionally. Any partnership that the person gets in to should be trailed with drama. However much the person denies it, there’s a craving for existential angst and being dragged through the dirt metaphorically speaking. Obsessive protectiveness of the partner would be likely, as would as would refusal to let the partner call all the shots. The need for friction in relationships could make the person be perceived as a threat on the market, someone who preys on people’s souls and leaves them changed forever. In the 7th, Pluto compels the person to never forget and never forgive things that happened in the context of relationships. The individual would be transformed through the intensity of his or her engagements and cooperations with others. There would be the tendency to crave and despise one’s need for an alliance, an inclination to want and fear a special relationship of gore and galore. Once the person is bound to another by a legal contract there would be no turning back – if the person has committed, they would not allow the other person to leave. In fact, there could be a strategy of making the partner unable to leave because there’s too much pride invested in the union. Alternatively, the person with Pluto in the 7th might leave before the other half gets a chance to. Court dealings and divorce matters could turn ugly to say the least, as the partners take their revenge.

8th house: This house is related to emotional intimacy, to shared resources, sex, death and the occult. The 8th relates to the self as it merges with the lives of others – the 7th is about cooperation and two separate parties joining hands. This house is concerned with the psychological and emotional impact people have on each other. It relates to fixations and attachments that are violated and transformed. Everything that affects one person affects the other in the 8th house, which makes it impossible to destroy the other without destroying the self. When Pluto is in this house, the person is likely to find themselves in emotional binds with other people. There could be people in the person’s life who manage to get under the skin -too close and too fast as to evoke dimensions within that wasn’t known before and that is beyond the person’s control. This can be frightening and activate basic survival instincts, yet the person might not be able to break free from the emotional bind. There could be a compulsive need to do what another asks or suggests, a need to act out a certain behavior to secure closeness with the other. On a more superficial level, it could take the form of financial dependency, of having one’s means merged with another person’s. The struggle to remain in control and to preserve autonomy could make the person exhausted. It’s likely that the power others can have on the person’s life is a source of fear rather than pleasantness. Intimate relationships might have a life or death tension to them. There could be a feeling of having to die as an individual in order to be close. If such a sacrifice is to be made, it should go both ways in Pluto’s book. The person might be dead bent on making the other feel the way they do in order to establish a bond that goes both ways – which means that what affects one of the parties will affect the other. There’s little to no wiggle room in this dynamic which would be what the person wants. The person’s sensitivity and survival instinct is extremely charged with this placement. Psychological manipulation and covert means of control used by others usually don’t go by unnoticed and is actively used by the person as a counter attack. Every little seeming betrayal or disapproval that comes from others causes great distress. A lot of hatred could be triggered quickly – by a glance, a word, a tone of voice, which could result in violence, humiliation, blackmail, emotional abuse or any other method of hurting others. The person might be paranoid to the point of seeing threats where there are none, compulsively inflicting pain on people who had no intention of being threatening. Fear of death could be a major issue for the person, perhaps more so than for any other Pluto placements. What is usually failed to be noticed is that the agony of fear while living is a death itself – a prison of doom. The efforts to protect oneself are futile because one is surely dying anyway. It’s necessary for the person to loosen the boundaries rigid sense of self and be reborn and transformed by intensity. There’s light in darkness, there’s strength to be gained through seeming powerlessness. None the less, death is dramatic, unexpected and all-consuming with this placement, metaphorical and literal.

9th house: This house is related to the self as it gives it’s existence meaning and purpose. It’s related to higher education, long distance travel, publishing and spreading of knowledge, the higher courts and the law, philosophy and religion. With Pluto here, the search for the source or core of existence could be an intense endeavor. I can picture this type of person dedicating themselves to extreme experiments in order to squeeze new discoveries and knowledge out of life. If the person is religious, the most orthodox path would be the most appealing since it requires the most discipline and will power. Lighter, spiritual paths would feel fake to the person – one would need something more dramatic and meaty. Pluto is a planet of extremes and doesn’t do anything half-heartedly. If one is to take the topic of God seriously, one should not set out to only have a jolly good time and experience only the light and sunny heights of bliss. It’s in life and death experiences that one can begin to find some answers to the mystery of existence according to this placement. There would be a compulsive need to find out what it’s all about, especially to penetrate and transcend the heavy dimensions of reality. There would be a deep concern around wanting to uncover the purpose of pain and the confront the sensation of conflict. There would be a definite bravery to the person’s willingness to face every facet of life. Books and publishings that deal with existential topics might be scrutinized and subsequently discarded or kept. At the core of the person’s striving there would be a desperation, a deep existential agony and a need to gain some personal power. No stone would be left unturned. In the spreading of information and knowledge however, the person might be tempted to withhold certain bits and pieces of value in order to have the upper hand. Or, one might not want to share anything of value at all and instead mislead people. If one published something of one’s true philosophy however, it might not be the most encouraging and easy to digest message out there. In fact, Pluto would have a quite sombre view on life that isn’t designed to gloss over or smooth over any rough edges. It might primarily deal with subjects like death, pain and suffering – in short, all the darker themes. In doing so, the person might hope to transform the lower states of being into the higher, to find some gold in the dirt or realizing that there’s no innate difference between the two. The person would be prone to have extreme believes that is way beyond what is conventionally accepted. Beliefs that are fundamentally anti-establishment, anti-religion, anti-society and anti-culture. Pluto often functions as a counter force to established power structures that threatens the progression of life which is in no way all bad, but it certainly causes friction.

10th house: This house relates to the self as a member of society. It relates to career, social status and public image. It’s also said to be related to the most dominant parent or caregiver the person had growing up. With Pluto here, the person would seek to gain power as part of one’s career path. The urge would be to climb the ladder of societal esteem, to stand out as an important member of society. A lot of time and energy  would be invested in one’s accomplishments and achievements. There’s no way that the person would play 100% fair and square though, because in reality, nothing is fair with this planet. On the surface, the person could seem like a exemplary individual, but deep down one is desperate for societal recognition and status, and would do anything to secure it. Power is never gained by being harmless, it’s earned through clever strategy and mentally taking note of people’s subtle weaknesses and pitfalls, including one’s own. The person would be aware of the psychological games played underneath the surface level of social interaction and be a master at it. There’s an official version of how things work and there’s an unofficial version as well. This kind of person would do all the things right on the official level and not hesitate to play nasty power games on the unofficial one. If there’s a chance of being screwed over despite the deliberate strategy to avoid ever being subjected to attack, one would surely not be inclined to forgive or forget. The person would demand respect in the public eye, constantly on guard to preserve integrity and control. A person’s career is closely linked to one’s value as a citizen, as a contributor to society. If one steps out of line in this sphere of life it could have big consequences – to Pluto in the 10th, it’s a matter of life an death. In the case that the person can’t manage to conform to the current picture of the conventional exceptional, one could resort to turn the tables completely and embark on a path of undermining collective pillars, to vent everyone’s dirty laundry. If ”society” as a static structure attacks the person and pulls the rug out from underneath the person’s basic safety, there’s nothing that prevents the person bringing other people’s reputation down with their own. Taking the ”high road” is not an option because morality doesn’t have bearing on the instinct for survival. As the 10th house relates to the most dominant parent growing up, Pluto here would indicate a perceptive and suspicious parent, someone with their guard up and strong a strong protective instinct. The parent would’ve made the person aware of the risk of being deceived and outmaneuvered. It might even be, that the parent posed some kind of threat and needed to be ”disarmed” in order for the child to feel safe.

11th house: This house is related to the self and it’s association with like-minded people and friends. This house also relates to hopes, dreams and wishes that wants to be actualized in the future. When Pluto is here the groups one might be inclined to join or happen to find oneself in could be designed to enhance one’s magnitude of power and feeling of safety. The person would be prone to think that strength is found in numbers and that it’s is correlated with the ability to make in impact. Being part of a movement or an organization that is larger than oneself could provide some padding to the fragile and rigid ego of the person but it could also enhance the amount of control one can have over securing primal needs. The needs would depend on the sign Pluto is in; Pluto in Taurus would put an emphasis on material circumstances while Pluto in Pisces would be focused more on the need for emotional closeness. Pluto always takes things to the extreme, and so the group cause could be quite emotionally charged and radical. Stereotypical dark topics of death, betrayal, wrong-doings, twisted psychological complexes, crime and forbidden passions could be common factors among the friends in the person’s circle. The mutual desire to reclaim control and act out dramatic feelings could serve to tie the members closely together. However, with the person being so intense in this sphere of life, it could prove difficult to remain friends with others unless they crave the same experience or seeks to validate their own intensity. Alternatively, the person could self-destruct through associating with the wrong people and joining dangerous movements in order to feel alive. Pluto works quite well within in a tribal context as it’s first and foremost concern is for protection – the group might provide some amount of guarantee of safety and survival from outside threats, none the less a group itself is never entirely healthy and wholesome and probably poses as big a threat to individual survival as the outside world does. The person might find themselves in a lose-lose scenario for this reason – one can’t let go of the membership and a sense of community the group provides, but one can’t deny the psychological enslavement it represents to be in need of something other than the self. This dilemma might be perceived to be a curse, but it can also be viewed as a realization of freedom. When nothing is better and nothing is worse, one is free to act and say whatever, because there’s a potential threat around every corner and it will always be the case. If this can be conveyed to the group, it might set others free and help them transcend their torturous fear of life.

12th house: This house is related to the dissolution of the self, the confiscation of autonomy, the return into oblivion, the return back to one’s source. This house relates to places like hospitals, prisons, mental asylums and places of solitary confinement. It is the domain of the unconscious and forces beyond individual control. When Pluto is here, the instinct for survival operates unconsciously the majority of the time. The person is probably unaware of immediate or potential threats to their emotional integrity and physical safety. The strong Plutonic intensity of needing to be in control operates within the person but is not a part of the person’s perception of the self. Chances are that darker themes like violence and death primarily exist within the person’s fantasy world or dream scape. The person could encounter threats through symbols rising from the unconscious, yet would have no idea how to deal with them consciously – or how to make them stop. Since the desire to control and power within the person is not integrated into the personality, the disowned instinctive forces is flooding the person with experiences - frightening visions, obscure threats and murderous thoughts stemming from deep seated fear. It’s not unlikely that one lives out Pluto in real life but remaining curiously unaware of it. To the outside world the person may show signs of manipulative strategy and acute surveillance of one’s surroundings, involuntarily on guard all the time. The person could attribute Plutonic behavior to something that overcomes them occasionally that has nothing to do with their own identity. Pluto is a powerful force and might cause trouble as to get the person in prison or in need of care for committing crimes. The unconscious doesn’t necessarily discriminate between good and bad, it contains urges and qualities that doesn’t belong to the person but will sooner or later need an outlet through them. If people close to the person has a suppressed Pluto, the person might ”take on” the burden of acting it out for them. The unconscious always wins over the conscious mind and primal fear and rage could be released with no seeming connection to the person’s overt personality. Obsessive compulsions could get the person into trouble, forcing one into isolation and over seeing by other people in appropriate institutions. It could also be that the person finds themselves in physically violent situations, having to visit the hospital frequently and be treated for debilitating wounds and breakage. The fear of death could be great but the intensity of living with forceful impulses of protection and destruction could make the person exhausted to the point of wanting to surrender completely to it all. The person has a particular receptivity for collective survival needs and if they’re channeled constructively, they can provide strength and resiliency.

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Thoughts on Pluto in Scorpio in the 2nd and Saturn in Pisces in the 6th? My Mars is also in the 12th... and often I feel this combination of placements has made it challenging to secure a job and make steady money/acquire financial stability. If you have any advice or general ideas on how to maybe harness this energy more effectively I would be so appreciative! Thank you!! <3

Oh, yes, very heavy energy here around work and income.

Yes, here are a couple keys. Your Pluto is ruled by Mars. So the key to your income is surrender, letting go. Release.

Same theme as the 6th house actually, they share the theme of service. Selflessness. Virgo-- service via material work and cleanliness and habits, and Pisces-- service via compassion and agape, universal love. Surrender of the ego. Not hating ego, not cutting off ego. Just love. Just letting love be in charge. With surrender, Pluto in Scorpio in the 2nd actually has the potential to be very wealthy. But the surrender of ego is the key there.

This doesn't mean that, when you surrender, it changes like a light switch, necessarily. Typically, surrender takes us through a whole cycle of themes, each situation requiring a new layer of letting go, before we unlock ease. This is what the transits are for. They guide us through different energies that help us unlock our potential. That's what transits are!

Now for Saturn in the 6th. Saturn in the 6th is ashamed of being lazy or dirty or disorganized or impure-- one or more of those. Saturn in Pisces in the 6th house has a struggle to feel good enough. And only through running herself ragged and then feeling sorry for herself that she's been so overlooked, so used, so underappreciated, can she find self-compassion; because of this she may enjoy being a victim, or, alternatively, she may fall ill with stress-related illnesses (or both).

She has to learn to give herself compassion, and rest, and worthiness, for free. For free. She doesn't have to work for them or earn them. She doesn't have to be worthy. She doesn't have to be enough. She just is. She doesn't have to DO anything.

Teach yourself that no one earns anything. Undo the myth of capitalism and meritocracy. No one earns a penny. It's all luck. It's aaaaaaaalll luck, I promise. Even how much we work is luck. Luck of birth, luck of aura, luck of upbringing, luck of health, luck of mental health, etc etc etc. Nothing is earned by anyone.

It's not even law of attraction or positive thinking! People just tell themselves that so that they can feel that they earned stuff! They think, "I earned it through the law of attraction! I did the work!" so they can assuage their shame! But it was all luck of one kind or another! And when you realize all that you can laugh and laugh and laugh (or cry, or both, or whatever, it's all valid.)

So in me telling you the "keys" to unlock these placements, it's not a to do list. It's not more work. There's no pressure, no timetable, nowhere to arrive at, nowhere else you're supposed to be. That's surrender. Just be here now. Come back to the heart: self-compassion, and the service heart.

A person with these placements does need to practice setting boundaries, saying "no", and not criticizing others (or herself!) But this comes naturally with self-compassion. Saying YES to yourself sometimes means saying NO to others. I'm sure you've already started incorporating this.

Hope this helps. ❤

[rosesastrology]

thoughts on mars, pluto & lilith conj in the 2nd house ?

There's quite a struggle to feel and become financially independent, to allow yourself to own things and "have". Perhaps this comes from your childhood, I don't know; but there's an intense higher need to own things and make a living for yourself. Your anger and passion is very much connected o your values and self-esteem. Through possession and owning things, achieving them, you can transform your values and the worth you place on yourself. It could be that your self-worth is very much reliant on how well you do and on the oppression you have faced in your life. There's a need to own materials, to possess things or people, perhaps as a leader or within the romantic life. It could be that sexually that's something that intrigues you- the concept of possession. You need to break free from the things you didn't have, in a sense; there's a craving to own more, to have and be worth more. It could very well be that death, loss and intimacy have played a big part in how much worth you place on yourself. However, your values transform with time and with the help of other people. You make new boundaries and learn, and re-learn. Your passion is correlated to that which (used to) reject or shame you; you may feel a strong need to prove others wrong. - @rosesastrology

[amethystpluto]

Usually wherever pluto is in the house, there is a lot dealing with the “death” of something, obsession, deep control and or fixation pertaining to that house’s energy

[astroismypassion]

Thank you for answering. Hm Pluto in 2nd synastry is interesting? How did you come to that conclusion and are both people or just the Pluto into it? I would think Mars in 7th might be one overlay.

Hi! 

Yes, Pluto in the 2nd is interesting. There might be this feel like you are physically bound to each other, you might break off often, but then always come back. 2nd house person (but even Pluto) can be highly possessive, territorial over the other person. It is possible that feelings of jealousy, envy arise. Also beware that Pluto in the 2nd house is not stealing away your money, items or self worth.