#Patrick McKay
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"This show's writing is actually good and people who have to defend their liking of the show by saying I know it's bad but--" are cowards. grow a spine, defend the things you like! While there are some elements of the series I also dislike and I am open to fair criticism, people have this kneejerk tendency to start on the defensive and it really makes the fandom an overall negative place because people start out saying that they think the show is poor quality. IMHO, stand up for the things you like and dgaf about the haters. peace and love."
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favorite-characters · 4 months ago
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𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝕃𝕠𝕣𝕕 𝕠𝕗 𝕥𝕙𝕖 ℝ𝕚𝕟𝕘𝕤: 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝕣𝕚𝕟𝕘𝕤 𝕠𝕗 𝕡𝕠𝕨𝕖𝕣
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Benjamin Walker as 𝐆𝐢𝐥-𝐆𝐚𝐥𝐚𝐝 (sh. J. D. Payne, Patrick McKay / S02 / 2024)
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halbrannatar · 4 months ago
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Good night Silvergifting fans. This is for you 👇
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hailturinturambar · 2 months ago
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“For Sauron as a character at the beginning of season two, he still thinks he's the hero, right? He's like, I'm going to fix the whole world," McKay explains. "I have to make magic rings to do it and the way I do that is to trick this guy, right? That's my plan. But then to succeed, he has to double down and basically descend into the worst version of himself, where, by the end, he's the villain of this story, and he knows it.”
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He added: “So in some ways, the first two seasons have been the origin of Sauron, the Dark Lord. Season one, he was the aspiring Dark Lord, by the end of season two, he's the newly conquering Dark Lord.”
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Patrick McKay for Total Film
To me, one of the most interesting things about Sauron is that in his mind, he is an underdog hero.
Unlike Morgoth, who desires to destroy the world and is perfectly content to do evil, Sauron truly believes that he is capable of healing Middle-earth and achieving peace.
Even if to achieve this peace he has to become a tyrant, a conqueror. Sauron thinks that only with his methods of deception and manipulation will he be able to achieve his ultimate goal. And this is where the real tragedy lies, isn't it?
He corrupts everything around him, betrays everyone who is on his side, to achieve his long-awaited peace. The interesting thing about Sauron is that he doesn't think he's doing evil, he's just using all the necessary efforts to save everyone.
I believe that after murdering Adar and being defeated by Galadriel, the last people in Middle-earth who were close to him since the loss of Morgoth, Sauron then realizes, as McKay said, that he is the villain of the story, the evil that rots the ground.
He's too corrupt, he's done too much harm to turn back. I imagine that's when he gives up, looking at Celebrimbor's hammer. Does he realize that he's the villain everyone's facing? A crack in Sauron's truth, in what he believes is right, without a doubt.
Sauron finally accepts that he is The Dark Lord. He no longer wishes to become one, because he already is. There are no more masks, only the dirty truth.
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leotanaka · 3 months ago
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i really liked patrick mckay's answer regarding how arondir survived getting stabbed. it was obviously a reference to arondir's comment in the first episode of the series about how elves heal themselves but it's good to have that actual confirmation and the answer really makes sense within the context of the scene and how it was clearly presented.
like, i get that people have this perception that being stabbed = mortally wounded and that 1v1 = fight to the death but it really doesn't and beyond the stab itself, the scene showcases that arondir was simply hurt. he's injured, that's all. he wasn't dying. hell, the scene quite literally ends with adar kicking arondir directly in the face in order to keep him down before walking off as arondir is shown crawling on the ground so, to me it was pretty clear that adar wasn't actually trying to kill him and that arondir would be alright.
also, i really like that both patrick and ismael (in a previous interview) put an emphasis on this arondir vs adar moment being primarily about arondir losing the fight. that's what this is about, that's what makes this momentous, it's not that he might have died, it's the fact that he actually lost the fight. that arondir, who is shown repeatedly to be an unstopped and unbeatable warrior lost. that adar beat him and that he was able to beat him because arondir became reckless, he wasn't fighting with a level head. for the first time, his emotions literally got the better of him and he lost and could've been killed because of it.
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love-and-doom · 1 month ago
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No clue how accurate this is but is a good sign regardless We so often hear about how the show is such a flop and that no one watches it
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dragon-ashes1485 · 2 months ago
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Morfydd, Charlie, JD and Patrick interview highlights:
Morfydd's evil grin when they're talking about her kicking Sauron in the face
Morfydd saying Sauron looks like he's waiting for his toast to pop up as he looks at Eregion falling
Morfydd finding "Durin will come" really sad
Charlie smirking every time they talk about Celebrimbor being bannered
Patrick calling Morfydd and Charlie buddies, even after a scene of nearly killing each other
And last, but not least, the showrunners talking about writing season 3
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apoloadonisandnarcissus · 2 months ago
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I mean this is where it started; these two [Charlie Vickers and Morfydd Clark] were auditioning […] and these two were doing chem[istry] tests and, like you know, little reads for months and months together before, you know, before anyone else was in the cast. This is kind of where we built the whole thing. Source
Not Patrick McKay confirming they built the entire “Rings of Power” series around Sauron and Galadriel dynamic, how that's the core of the show, and how important it was for them to find the right actors for this duo.
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liveinfarbe · 4 months ago
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The show runners about Adar…
Bringing the hurt that was this statement here
Great that from a viewer perspective the show runners felt the devastation of his loss, because they loved the character, they loved what he had with Galadriel built over two seasons, they loved the performances - but killed him off nonetheless.
It’s interesting what I think happened here: they had a character that started off on an intriguing premise coupled with a mesmerizing performance. Then as his expiration date neared there were decisions made to keep him longer in the narrative which means there were rewrites of the story. Simon Tolkien being a voice of reason here. And as they were doing so they delved deeper into his potential, and I’d argue they did that rather well, and suddenly this character became the magnetic focus of the narrative, hardly a supporting arc but front and center. There wasn’t enough time to let him breathe or kill him off satisfyingly (if that is possible). And surely Amazon had a word in that as well. They tried to make a clean sweep to get rid of the potential derailment of their vision. I suppose Adar’s demise was always meant to create a blank slate and put the Orc problem back into the box. Yet at the end of this season it felt extra egregious, because he had far outgrown his intended scope, from a viewer’s perspective.
Thing is, Adar was the best in a line of great original characters. He was soaring as a Tolkenian character and appealing to modern sensibilities. He felt relevant. And yet again coupled with an outstanding performance, where character and actor and make-up work created the most mesmerizing synergy. Adar was alive even when he was just sitting there chewing grumpily.
If it was not intentional by the show runners, it still feels like a failure, and frankly cowardly to not own up to it. But what can be done but grieve his loss now. The show is poorer for it.
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helenvader · 4 months ago
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Messy dude who lives for drama, I can't.
Not that I don't agree.
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Source: Patrick McKay quote from the IGN article.
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favorite-characters · 4 months ago
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𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝕃𝕠𝕣𝕕 𝕠𝕗 𝕥𝕙𝕖 ℝ𝕚𝕟𝕘𝕤: 𝕋𝕙𝕖 𝕣𝕚𝕟𝕘𝕤 𝕠𝕗 𝕡𝕠𝕨𝕖𝕣
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Benjamin Walker as 𝐆𝐢𝐥-𝐆𝐚𝐥𝐚𝐝 (sh. J. D. Payne, Patrick McKay / S02 / 2024)
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halbrannatar · 2 months ago
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Charlie Vickers is BORN to play SAURON. 👑
The way he answered Patrick's question about why did Sauron cry after killed Celebrimbor and he was hiding himself as Annatar from Morfydd. He's not playing Sauron anymore he IS Sauron. 🙂‍↕️
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hailturinturambar · 15 days ago
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I think the fandom watch the show and don't care what the producers say. Patrick and JD confirmed that they noticed that there could be something between Míriel and Elendil.
Is that in the books? No. Does that change Elendil's intentions and his loyalty? Of course not. We need to stop this corrupt view of love, that there can be no love and loyalty.
Either you love someone, or you are loyal, because people don't believe that the two can coexist without affecting each other.
This fear of romance in Tolkien's universe is really quite strange.
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fatcatlittlebox · 2 months ago
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Not gonna lie. Its a little weird and gratifying hearing Patrick McKay say the thing you just wrote. Can’t say that he read it but it just goes to show, and I repeat, we (film and lit nerds) all read the same stuff, studied it and wrote about it. So there you go, HC and meta writing is always valid and we��re not delulu when we draw from the same well.
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valar-did-me-wrong · 2 months ago
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them about us the fandom lol
Part: 120/?
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love-and-doom · 2 months ago
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"If ever there was a show that first needed to walk in order to fly (you fools), it was "The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power." Though far more enjoyable than the internet would have you believe, the debut season of the mega-budget Prime Video series struggled too often to define its approach to J.R.R. Tolkien's idiosyncratic lore. The same can't be said for the much-improved season 2, a darker and more villain-centric adventure that took the foundation laid by its previous eight episodes and carved out its own identity altogether. More so than any fantasy series this year (yes, even "House of the Dragon"), "The Rings of Power" truly came into its own.
For those willing to follow a modern twist on Tolkien canon, creators/showrunners J.D. Payne and Patrick McKay crafted a particularly thrilling — if radical — reinterpretation of the Second Age of Middle-earth. What if our greatest heroes in Galadriel (Morfydd Clark) and Elrond (Robert Aramayo) showed a more human side over how to deal with the temptation of the rings? How about the centuries-long rivalry between Charlie Vickers' deceptive Sauron and Sam Hazeldine's fallen Elf Adar culminating in a three-episode siege on Eregion? And, through it all, that shapeshifting diva Annatar captured the hearts and minds of unsuspecting characters and viewers alike. I'm not condoning his season-long gaslighting of poor Celebrimbor (Charlie Edwards) ... but I get it"
Nice as hell to see the show being praised 🤗
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