#Parthenopaeus

[ilions-end]

heard some guys were gonna go conquer thebes. i'm sure they'll be fine

[tylermileslockett]

Atalanta#8 "Aphrodites Revenge"

The marriage between Hippomenes and Atalanta proves strong and true, and Hippomenes doesn’t stifle his wife’s wild independence. On the contrary, he loves her the more for it. Many days they hunt together in the forests, and before long they have a son, Parthenopaeus. However, Hippomenes made an unforgivable mistake. He forgot to honor and sacrifice to Aphrodite for helping him win the foot race. The Olympians do not forget such things easily, and the goddess plans her revenge. One day the pair rest inside a cave dedicated to the mother goddess Cybele, where Aphrodite bewitches the two with lust, and they lay together within site of the gods. Furious at the blasphemous act, Cybele turns the lovers to lions, and put them under the harnesses of the Goddesses chariot.

Atalanta and Hippomenes son, Parthenopaeus, has his own epic life and story, as he goes on to be one of the captains in “The Seven Against Thebes” play. The third in a trilogy by “the father of Greek tragedy”, Aeschylus, the play concerns the two sons of King Oedipus of Thebes, Eteocles, who refuses to relinquish the throne, and Polynices, the other son who leads a revolt army led by seven Argive (from city-state of Argos) captains.

Cybele, a mother goddess of fertility, motherhood, and wilds, has her roots in Anatolia (Turkey), also knows as Asia Minor, in the kingdom of Phrygia. Using the title of Meter Theon, or “Mother of the gods,” the Greek equivalent would be Rhea. The goddess was born a hermaphrodite, but the other gods, fearing this duality, cut of her penis and discarded it. Later, when her mortal lover, Attis, spurns her, she drives him crazy and he amputates his penis and bleeds to death at the base of a pine tree. Thus, Cybele’s cult was run by transgender eunuch priests; the Galli. The orgiastic rites of the cult of Cybele share similarities with the cult of Dionysus. Apparently the priests and other followers, in honor of Cybeles castration, would work themselves into a frenzy, and mutilate and bleed themselves upon violets (representing Attis blood) adorned on a sacred pine tree.

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[mmmelodramatic]

seven against thebes😋

i stayed up all night making these designs so if theyre bad then uuhh whoopsie

[lyculuscaelus]

The thought of Promachus being a younger sister of Parthenopaeus instead of the latter’s son has never been so strong in my head.

Being the daughter of Atalanta, living in her mother’s shadow? Going by an epithet of the virgin goddess of war, seeking glory just like her brother and mother? Wishing to prove herself in a campaign similar to the one where her brother failed to prevail, joining ranks with other young men just like her mother once did? Actually being old enough for a war like this?

[prince-of-calydon]

torn between wanting more people to know about the thebaid vs fearing how badly every single character would get fandomized. angry smol uwu bean tydeus. tragic rebellious sadgirl antigone. argia and deipyle would be DELETED so tydenices can kiss

[styxxanaxkolasidefender]

You know what?

*Yassifies your CoN characters*

[i-like-nick-gautier-and-im-proud]

How soon is too soon to make memes about sabotage?

[onipanda379]

Yee haw! Happy pride!

[xrealmofmanymusesx]

Headcanon: Acheron & Alessia

Many many years ago, when Alessia was a child, she found Artemis secret. She was a curious child, being the daughter of Athena, so one day when she felt a presence that did not belong to Olympus, the young girl decided to investigate.

Alessia waited for Artemis to leave for her duties and her maids to be occupied before she left her mother's temple and go the temple of Artemis.

She walked in very easily but there was an area that was locked away, that's where the presence that the young girl felt came from.

What the grand majority of people did not know is that Alessia was much more powerful then she looked, being a god killer, so locks where very easily for her to break.

The young girl walked up to some double doors, also locked, and opened them. There she saw it. A man in Artemis bed, more like chained to Artemis bed.

Acheron thought it was Artemis returning when he heard the door opened, but has he looked he was a small child looking at him. He crossed his legs, trying to cover himself from her eyes. They did not say anything to each other. He just looked at the child and saw her raise her hand and suddenly his chains were loose.

He removed the chains and when he looked back to the door, he did not see the child. But he got himself out of the bed and put some clothes on. When he got to the he saw her again, the small child crounching against the door, knees to her chest.

Ash lowered himself to his knees, to not scare her or make her feels uncomfortable.

Alessia looked up to the men with blonde her and mercury eyes. "You are not from here."

"No, i am not."Ash said. "How did you know?"

"I could feel your presence." Alessia said.

"Thank you." Ash said. "What's your name?"

"Alessia. My name is Alessia."

"My name is Ash."he hummed and stretched his hand.

Alessia looked at his hand and shook her head. "I shouldn't touch you."

Ash tilted his head and frowned at the girl.

"I have a tendency to see things that people don't what when i touch them." Alessia said.

His eyes widenned at that. Could it be that this child was like him.

[itachi86]

"Ash took it all in stride until they got to the part about Grim. His swirling silver eyes turned red. “You’re wanting to join us?”

“I may have made some mistakes.”

“May?” Ash growled.

“Okay, I made some mistakes. But together, we can fix it.”

Acheron let out an evil laugh. “This isn’t a tire that blew on the interstate, old man. You’ve been making mistakes for centuries.”

[ilions-end]

statius really waits until book six of the thebaid to let you know that tydeus isn't just short, he's deceptively scrawny-looking, which is why people tend to not take him seriously as a combatant before they've seen him in action

it's so funny. the mesomorphic curse. the gods really gave their angriest warrior the body of a jockey sized marathon runner

[tylermileslockett]

Atalanta#8 "Aphrodites Revenge"

The marriage between Hippomenes and Atalanta proves strong and true, and Hippomenes doesn’t stifle his wife’s wild independence. On the contrary, he loves her the more for it. Many days they hunt together in the forests, and before long they have a son, Parthenopaeus. However, Hippomenes made an unforgivable mistake. He forgot to honor and sacrifice to Aphrodite for helping him win the foot race. The Olympians do not forget such things easily, and the goddess plans her revenge. One day the pair rest inside a cave dedicated to the mother goddess Cybele, where Aphrodite bewitches the two with lust, and they lay together within site of the gods. Furious at the blasphemous act, Cybele turns the lovers to lions, and put them under the harnesses of the Goddesses chariot.

Atalanta and Hippomenes son, Parthenopaeus, has his own epic life and story, as he goes on to be one of the captains in “The Seven Against Thebes” play. The third in a trilogy by “the father of Greek tragedy”, Aeschylus, the play concerns the two sons of King Oedipus of Thebes, Eteocles, who refuses to relinquish the throne, and Polynices, the other son who leads a revolt army led by seven Argive (from city-state of Argos) captains.

Cybele, a mother goddess of fertility, motherhood, and wilds, has her roots in Anatolia (Turkey), also knows as Asia Minor, in the kingdom of Phrygia. Using the title of Meter Theon, or “Mother of the gods,” the Greek equivalent would be Rhea. The goddess was born a hermaphrodite, but the other gods, fearing this duality, cut of her penis and discarded it. Later, when her mortal lover, Attis, spurns her, she drives him crazy and he amputates his penis and bleeds to death at the base of a pine tree. Thus, Cybele’s cult was run by transgender eunuch priests; the Galli. The orgiastic rites of the cult of Cybele share similarities with the cult of Dionysus. Apparently the priests and other followers, in honor of Cybeles castration, would work themselves into a frenzy, and mutilate and bleed themselves upon violets (representing Attis blood) adorned on a sacred pine tree.

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[lyculuscaelus]

Some thoughts concerning the Epigonoi. They’re probably around the same age, maybe with Alcmaeon being the oldest—but still the age difference wouldn’t be too significant.

Specifically:

Aegialeus: it’s likely that he was born late, if we go by Statius’s Thebaid where Adrastus was mentioned to be “lacked male issue” by the time he married his daughters to Polyneices and Tydeus respectively (Thebaid book 1, 390–394). Had to say, this reason makes sense to explain why Adrastus wanted to marry off his daughters so eagerly. If so then Aegialeus was likely born after the time of the double marriage, and still old enough to beget a son before he went for war. Would he be at the age of eight by the time the first Theban War took place? (Might be younger though, since there’s Achilles as an example…)

Alcmaeon: he would be old enough to take heed of his father’s orders for vengeance, but not old enough to do that until about ten years later. Perhaps we may go with Orestes parallel and consider him to be around ten when the Seven went against Thebes, so he’d have the vengeance in his 20’s?

Diomedes: so I actually failed to identify any source for that statement on the wiki page for Diomedes. Nevertheless, Diomedes being younger than the rest of the group makes sense for BOTH the thing about people around him constantly reminding him of the his father and the war in Thebes AND the parallel of him being younger than most of the other Achaean chieftains by the time of the Trojan War.

Sthenelus: older than Diomedes, for sure. Old enough to father a son or two a few years before the Trojan War took place—if Cometes was real, that is (if not, then Cylarabes having died without an issue probably means he could be born at any time which does not help with our calculation). Let’s say, he might be at least eighteen when he begot Cometes, and Cometes being…well, eighteen? When he consorted with Aegialeia (you see, another thing that’s so fricked up is the age difference. If Aegialeia was a daughter of Aegialeus then maybe this makes some…sense—but she would be too young for Diomedes in that case; but if she’s a daughter of Adrastus then…it’s straight up two generations between Cometes and Aegialeia which is just…ugh. Welp another reason why I don’t acknowledge this wicked version of Aegialeia’s story). We don’t actually know the time gap between the Epigoni campaign and the Trojan War (again, that claim on Diomedes’s wiki page is unsourced), but if it’s five to ten years then Sthenelus would be ranging from 16 to 21 when he went for Thebes.

Thersandros: he might be older than Diomedes or about the same age—putting his age between Aegialeus’s and Diomedes’s just in case.

Promachus: his father Parthenopaeus was young. Like, the youngest among the Seven against Thebes. Still, he was old enough to father a son before he left for war (again, let’s say it’s eighteen for the sake of calculation), and we don’t really know when he did that. Let’s say the age when Parthenopaeus left for war ranges from 18 to 23: then Promachus would be around 10 to 15? Again being the youngest, perhaps?

Can’t really decide the age for Amphilochus, Euryalus, Polydorus, Medon simply based on their lineage…

Alright I expect this to be quite different from how everyone calculates their age so let me know if you have other theories!

[leynaeithnea]

Tydeus and Polynices and Hippomedon and Parthenopaeus and Amphiaraus and Adrastus and Capaneus and Mecistus and Eteocles and Diomedes and Thersander and Polydorus and Promachus and Alcmeon and Amphilochus and Stheneleus and Euryalus and Medon

*breathe*

And Maeon and Tiresias and Manto and Eteoclus and Antigone and Agria and Jocasta and Creon and Hypsipyle and Haemon and Melanippus and Achemorus and Lycurgus and Menoeceus and Oedipus and Theseus and the other Melanippus and Thoas and Crenaeus and Ismenos

....did I forget anyone?

[aliciavance4228]

We know that the Sphinx was sent to plague the Town of Thebes, and here are some sources which state that:

Aeschylus, Seven Against Thebes 539 ff (trans. Weir Smyth) (Greek tragedy C5th B.C.) : "[During the war of the Seven against Thebes Parthenopaios (Parthenopaeus) threatens the Thebans with the image of the Sphinx embossed on his shield :] Nor does he take his stand at the gate unboasting, but wields our city's shame on his bronze-forged shield, his body's circular defence, on which the Sphinx who eats men raw is cleverly fastened with bolts, her body embossed and gleaming.

Aeschylus, Seven Against Thebes 773 ff : "For whom have the gods and divinities that share their altar and the thronging assembly of men ever admired so much as they honored Oidipous (Oedipus) then, when he removed that deadly, man-seizing plague (kêr) [i.e. the Sphinx] from our land."

Pseudo-Apollodorus, Bibliotheca 3. 52 - 55 (trans. Aldrich) (Greek mythographer C2nd A.D.) : "While he [Kreon (Creon)] was king, quite a scourge held Thebes in suppression, for Hera sent upon them the Sphinx, whose parents were Ekhidna (Echidna) and Typhon. She had a woman's face, the breast, feet, and tail of a lion, and bird wings. She had learned a riddle form the Mousai (Muses), and now sat on Mount Phikion (Phicium) where she kept challenging the Thebans with it."

According to Pseudo-Apollodorus, it was Hera the one who sent the Sphinx. However, there are other sources which either state or imply the fact that she was sent to Thebes by other god(s).

What I found curious about it though is the town (Thebes), the king of it (Kreon) and the existence of a certain Plague. For those who don't know, in the myth of the Coronides Kreon was the one who managed to piss of Hades by refusing to allow the burial of the dead warriors of the army of the Seven Against Thebes. As a response, he and Persephone sent a plague to that town, and were appeased only by the sacrifice of Orion's daughters, whom they eventually took pity of:

Antoninus Liberalis, Metamorphoses 25 (trans. Celoria) (Greek mythographer C2nd A.D.) : "When plague seized Aonia [Boeotia] and many died, there were sent officers to consult Apollon's oracle at Gortyne. The god replied that they should make an appeal to the two gods of the underworld [Haides and Persephone]. He said that they would cease from their anger if two willing maidens were sacrificed to the two. Of course not one of the maidens in the city complied with the oracle until a servant-woman reported the answer to the daughters of Orion [the two Koronides (Coronides)]. They were at work at their loom and, as soon as they heard about this, they willingly accepted death on behalf of their fellow citizens before the plague epidemic had smitten them too. They cried out three times to the gods of the underworld saying that they were willing sacrifices. They thrust their bodkins into themselves at their shoulders and gashed open their throats. And they both fell down into the earth. Persephone and Hades took pity on the maidens and made their bodies disappear, sending them instead up out of the earth as heavenly bodies. When they appeared, they were borne up into the sky. And men called them comets."

So all these three elements are present in both myths. At first you would think that this might be a coincidence, but then I found this fragment from Phoenissae by Euripides and...

O snow-capped Cithaeron, dear to Artemis, holy vale of leaves, crowded with wild animals, would that you had never reared the one exposed to die, Oedipus, Jocasta's child, when as a baby he was cast forth from his home, [805] marked with a golden brooch; and would that the Sphinx, that winged maid, monster from the hills, had never come as a grief to our land with her inharmonious songs, she that once drew near our walls and snatched the sons of Cadmus away in her taloned feet to the untrodden light of heaven, [810] sent by Hades from hell to plague the men of Thebes; once more unhappy strife is coming into bloom between the sons of Oedipus in home and city. For never can wrong be right, [815] nor can there be good in unlawful children, their mother's birth pangs, their father's pollution; she came to the bed of her son. . . .

So if you try to combine both the myth of the Kronides and Euripides' Phoenissae you come to the conclusion that Hades not only that was responsible for that plague, but he also sent the Sphinx to Thebes as well.

So my theory is that Hades and the Sphinx were probably friends, or at least on good terms with each other. I mean, if you go by the version where she is the daughter of Typhon and Echidna then she isn't the only one of their children Hades would love.

[styxxanaxkolasidefender]

NO BECAUSE ASH HAS AN AQUALINE NOSE 🤭