#Ovidius

[arcadekitten]

Do you have any characters who have a mental or/and psychical disability?

Yeah, ME /hj

No pics this time and forgive me if I've forgotten anyone or a condition of theirs but here we go for a list of disabled characters:

(Mental disorders will be considered disabilities in this context.)

Mary - Autistic

Reginald - OCD

Crowven - ADHD

Mitzi - ADHD

Ollie - Autism, ADHD, Narcolepsy

Zapara - Autism, ADHD

Ovidius - Missing Eye

Cross, Crowven's Father - Missing Eye

Marina, Mary's mom - Mute

Rune - No Legs, uses wheelchair/prosthetic legs/magic to get around depending

Allie - Deaf, uses hearing aid

Capella - Autistic, prosthetic hand

Nana - Deaf

Vis - Blind

Stella - Autism, OCD

Lambchop - OCD

Maggie(hasn't formerly appeared yet but I draw her every so often) - Autism, OCD, Tourette Syndrome

[a-d-nox]

could you make a post about Proserpina(26), and it’s effect through the signs/houses?

proserpina, queen of spring and the underworld (asteroid 26)

i have not made a post about proserpina, so i won't complete a request like this without having talked about the asteroid first. proserpina and persephone are only mildly different. the likeness ends at the abduction and her mother searching for her.

trigger warning: rape

Proserpina's abduction was more turbulent than Persephone's and is seen in many pieces of media: art, sculptures, Metamorphoses, etc. Proserpina was an innocent girl picking flowers and playing in the glade with Cyane in the pool of water next to her - this was normal for the girls. On a whim one day, Pluto grabbed her and carried her away. Crying and terrified Proserpina calling for her mother - her dress tore, "her flowers fell" (which might be Ovid's metaphor for her loss of innocence/virginity). She screamed for her friends and no one came. Pluto urged each of the horses pulling his chariot by name to take them away to the Underworld. Cyane spoke up when she saw this, saying that taking Proserpina would be against the will of Ceres and that he had done this all wrong - a girl was meant to be wooed and Proserpina was in tears and terrified. She could do nothing to stop him for she was stuck in her pool of water - she was forced to watch him take Proserpina. IN MY OPINION Proserpina in your chart can represent a) ruined innocent, b) rape, c) abductions, d) innocence, and/or e) feeling trapped and helpless in a situation.

i encourage you to look into the aspects of proserpina along with the sign, degree, and house placement. for the more advanced astrologers, take a look at the persona chart of proserpina AND/OR add the other characters involved to see how they support or impede proserpina!

OTHER RELATED ASTEROIDS/PLANETS: PLUTO, ovidius (2800), ceres (1), and/or cyane (403).

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[taisart11]

Da iugulum cultris, hostia dira, meis. 🗡️

No delay is mine: I act as priest with sure prayer. Whoever is at my rites, show favour to my words: whoever is at my rites, speak your words of mourning, and with wet cheeks begin your weeping for Ibis: and run with every ill, and on stumbling feet, and cloak all your bodies with black garments! You too, why hesitate to don the fatal bands? Now your funeral altar’s ready, as you yourself can see. Your cortège is prepared: no delay to the sad prayers: dread sacrifice, relinquish your throat to my knives. Ibis (vv. 93-106), Ovid

I've been wanting to draw something more 'classical' for a while, so here's my interpretation of Ovid in his Ibis! It's somehow darker than what we are used to see, but he's still our beloved poet.

[sarafangirlart]

When I complain about ppl using Ovid’s version of Medusa and ppl agree with me but also hate on Ovid when the shitty retellings aren’t his fault and we should be criticizing these authors more.

[sade1-adam]

“Sabırlı ol ve dayan; gün gelecek bu acı sana yarayacak.”

[dragonsinthedarkness]

Lately I found myself thinking about James/Miranda relationship as a reversed version of Orpheus and Eurydice’s story, especially towards the end of it. Not because these two stories match well (they do not) but just because I like making this kind of classical comparisons and I'm stuck from a bit on the fact that, right before her death, for the first time Miranda was the one to refuse the progress to look back at the past. 

After the loss of Thomas, James let himself slip into a darkness comparable to the underworld, a darkness which so often threatened to swallow him whole. He walked on a thin line between a reign of death and an island of life, and if that darkness was that reign, Miranda was his island. 

During their whole journey of processing their grief and climbing their way back to a life that could be called such, she was the one always trying to drag him towards the light. To her, the life that might have been waiting for them in the future was that light, while the past was the darkness, and not because she deemed it forgettable or unimportant, quite the contrary indeed, but because while she knew how to keep and remember the beauty of that past and the light of it, along with the sorrow, she knew perfectly well how different it was for James. How he could remember the beauty of it, of course, but also knew how to put it aside in favor of the rage and the guilt, his gaze clouded by the pain and the unacceptable shame. 

She said it herself: she didn't want to forget that past, not the bright side of it and neither the inescapable sadness of it, its tragedy being the spring of that very beauty, the ruins existing only because there was something precious to be ruined in the first place; and at the same time, what could the dark of it matter, the injustice, the grudge, when it condemned the both of them to never be able to see the light again? 

First time I heard their discussion in ep.VII after knowing the whole story, I wondered how could she ask something like that of him, to forget and pass over what they had done to him just to gain a liveable life, but recently I've actually been wondering : how could she not?

I'm not taking any side in this, as I recognize Miranda's thoughts to be the most reasonable ones as they often are but at the same time I can't say I wouldn't act as stubbornly and desperately as James did in that situation, they're just really different ways to conceive one’s own existence, influenced by their own problems and conditions and mind. All I'm saying is that Miranda was able to see the light even if just from a distance, she was able to hope that one day they would have been able to truly see it. James was never. 

He just lied to himself about the possibility of it. He had plans and tactics and strategies, but for how I see it, those were all desperate attempts to convince himself of the contrary. He couldn't, maybe because of his personality, maybe because he knew that his situation wasn't one that could ever allow him to found real light in that world, maybe just because he loved her less than how much he had loved Thomas, less than how much she loved him, but whichever was the reason, he couldn't afford to see the light after that abyss, and I think Miranda was the first to know that. The one who knew him like no other, the one who loved him like no other. She knew that without help he would have never really been able to reach the end of that dark state of being. And she tried. She tried to help him in so many ways, because she loved him, she really did, and because she had the damn right to claim at least a decent life for herself. 

And here we come to the end, to Charles town.

Charles town could have been her success. Charles town was James’ surrender. For the first time she glimpsed one real chance of having him back, she saw in him the real intention to leave all of that darkness behind, to follow her, not leaving the past behind, never, but learning to move forward, finally allowing her a chance for a new life together. 

He was actually ready to accept even that miserable condition Peter Ashe imposed on him in order to get rid of the darkness, to climb to the light -as short lived as that might have been, at this point- to give Miranda a better alternative than the ones he had been able to grant her up until that moment (as I think his whole Charles town plan was led by the purpose of doing something to save her): as useless as we all know that would have been, accepting that bargain has probably been the most selfless thing James has ever done, even if he did it also for himself in a tired, desperate and contorted way. 

But Charles town wasn't only this to Miranda. 

Charles town was the discovery of the betrayal, because I believe she understood it all the moment she first saw that clock, I'm sure of it. Charles town was her umptheen attempt and her umptheen sacrifice. 

I think that must have been to her a similar quest to the Maria Aleyne's one: respecting James by telling him the truth, something he deserves to know, even knowing how he will react to it, knowing how impossible it would become for him, then, to go on with his plan, granting him a one way ticket to that darkness, or keeping him in the dark, bearing alone the weight of that knowledge, accepting to live with the helplessness to remedy that fatal injustice, only in the hope to finally make him reach that light?  

Would Orpheus reveal Eurydike a truth which risked pushing her back into the underworld just because it might be right for her to know it?

Still, things had been different, more desperate, back to the Maria Aleyne. Now the chance to succeed was real. 

And at first she made that difficult choice, which was selfish in a way, but definitely selfless in another, all at the same time.

And she did it because she loved him. 

She loved him so much that when she glimpsed, in that light, the prospect of losing him, she had to recognize that that light was -as James would have put it in the future- only their light, the light of a world the two of them couldn’t be part of anymore. 

She loved him so much that she had to look back. To the past, to him, because her James was still behind her, still in the dark, the only place where he was allowed to stay, and only that version of him was the one she truly loved. She loved the real James, with all his broken parts, not the one that could be seen under the lights of their lies. 

So she couldn't help giving up that false light, because she had wished for tranquility, a normal life -as probably anyone in her conditions would have done- but she was not disposed to give up the man she loved in order to gain that, as she hadn't been in the past, when the prospect of the future had been only dark and still she had not deserted the ones she loved. 

And when she turned back, this time trying to shield him from that light, the darkness at the pit ended up swallowing them both. 

Miranda died, and James was dragged back full force and imprisoned into the worst version of himself, the ruthless, autodestructive one. 

There are two versions of the story of Orpheus and Eurydice, and I think that the two of them taken together perfectly represent James’ reaction to her death and its circumstances.

In Virgilius’ one, Eurydice slightly resents Orpheus for his action, for his “folly” -as it is called- and (if we may call it that) for his selfish gesture of looking back, that she paid with her second chance to be alive. 

After Miranda's death, James dreams of her reminding him how he had resented her “because they were so close” and of course since that's a dream is what he knew he had felt. But that was…collateral to the condition he had been left stuck in. That was the childish resentment of having explicitly denied something he knew deep down he couldn't have. 

In Ovidius’ one instead Eurydice doesn't blame him because she can't resent being loved, and I think this is what James really felt. After all, looking straight at the truth of the situation and looking back at their shared history, I think there were no ways for him to actually, rationally resent her. (And in fact in his last dream about her she uses a past tense, “you resented me”, hinting that was something he had felt only in the moments when he was at his worst as when, always in the dream, he heard her apology).

Moreover, I think he perfectly understood the meaning of those last moments of hers, how important it was to her to make her voice be heard in that moment. In fact, despite the clear and growing doubt and rage (and worry) on his face while Peter and Miranda spoke, he didn't say a word, he let her speak, despite knowing the risks  and I think this is amazing and just proves how beautiful and respectful their relationship was, and that there were no way he could actually deem her responsible of their failure in that mission (doomed to failure since the beginning ‘cause of the truth).

What hurts even more about her death is the fact that it looks like they got closer to each other once again during that trip, as they hadn't probably been in years, and then…everything got lost forever.

[conatus26]

"Her şey değisir, ama hiçbir şey yok olmaz."

- Ovidius

[xxinkyshadowxx]

[crowleyspriestess]

«Silva domus fuerat, cibus herba, cubilia frondes,/ iamque diu nulli cognitus alter erat./ Blanda truces animos fertur mollisse voluptas:/constiterant uno femina virque loco;/ quid faceret, ipso nullo didicere magistro:/ arte Venus nulla dulce peregit opus.»

Translation:

"His house (of the man, mankind) was the forest, grass was his food, leaves his bed, and for a long time every man was unknown to the other. It was the pleasure of Love - it's said- to placate the wild spirits. They stopped, the man and the woman, in the same place; they learned their way what they should do, without any teacher; back then there was no "art", but Venus did her sweet duty"

Ovidius- Ars Amatoria (II, 475-480)

[endibewurdum]

"Suskun bakışlarında yine de sitem var."

Et taciti fecere tamen convitia vultus.,

[bernardmarie]

Ovidius did not realize it was a date until that moment and he's in his pjs

The secret mystery option was death and how I think its funny that he texted Ovidius first

[arcadekitten]

Does Ovidius show up in anything besides Cemetery Mary?

He's the protagonist in Holiday Shopping!

[a-d-nox]

Hello Nox

How are you? I hope you're fine

Could you talk about Peitho 118? if you haven't made any posts related to this. I think she named after one of Aphrodite's companion Peitho? So, I'm curious about this goddess and her role in astrology too

Thank you, have a nice day 💜💜

peitho, goddess of persuasion (asteroid 118)

The origin of Peitho is rather unclear in the classics - she doesn't originate from Homer or Ovid. Hesiod only briefly mentions her. It was Sappho who gave her a bit of definition and shape. Sappho stated that Peitho was an attendant of Aphrodite; she held the secret to divine love and thusly knew how to persuade and seduce someone. Some say that she was the one who married the tragic lovers Cadmus and Harmonia... Frequently, she is depicted in art at the weddings of significant lovers like Dionysus and Ariadne, Thetis and Peleus, Aphrodite and Adonis, etc. Infamously, Peitho was at the abduction of Helen by Paris because her divine magic was needed for Paris to convince Helen to leave with him per the promise of Aphrodite. IN MY OPINION Peitho in your chart can indicate a) where your origin is unclear, b) where you facilitate romances for others, c) where you convince couples to stay together, and/or d) your abilities to romantically persuade others and seduce them.

i encourage you to look into the aspects of peitho along with the sign, degree, and house placement. for the more advanced astrologers, take a look at the persona chart of peitho AND/OR add the other characters involved to see how they support or impede peitho!

OTHER RELATED ASTEROIDS: homerus (5700), hesiodos (8550), ovidius (2800), cadmus (7092), sappho (80), aphrodite (1388), harmonia (40), ariadne (43), dionysus (3671), adonis (2101), helene (101), and paris (3317)!

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[yorgunherakles]

seninle birlikteyken zevk aşk demekti, şimdi de acı aşk demek.

simone de beauvoir - love letters

[stardust-in-my-mind-blog]

exiled poet

it was the loquacity of ovid

that often got him in trouble

I think the secret of trouble is how

everyone loves to be near it and watch the spectacle

pretend while mounting their high horses

that the theatrics are something they are above

ovid once said that the man who has been shipwrecked

often shudders at even a calm sea

as the tempest I can nod at his wisdom

for only the moon draws the tides

and the sea is mastered by her glow

and the sea can be inspired into a frenzy

at the whispers of mischievous winds

the waves grasping at their dancing figures

ovid also claims we are ever striving after

what is forbidden to us

coveting what is denied to us

I see why his wisdom was cast out of Rome

for it is the exile who embraces metamorphosis

rejection has a beautiful way

of becoming transformative fire

and trouble is a tempting heat

to those ready to see how the fruit

of the forbidding tree tastes

on the lips and over the tongue

a permanent memory on a reckless mind

[huzursuzlugun-blogu]

Heu patior telis vulnera facta meis.

Ah, yaralarıma neden olan benim kendi oklarım.