#Onomatology

[al-zel]

Explaining every H:SR characters name, Part 1-- The Astral Express Crew!

I’ll put a symbol →(!!!) on every section that has a potential spoiler.

Stelle: A shortened version of the French name Estelle, meaning “star”. This name was derived from the Latin word “stella”. As for how it applies to the character, I’m sure it’s meant to show that the trailblazers true place is among the astral express exploring the cosmos. It might also be a reference to the Stellarons appearance.

Caelus: Derived from the Latin word “caelum”, Caelus is a name that means “sky” or “the heavens”. This name also belonged to the Roman god of the sky. It’s a little more convoluted than Stelle’s more straightforward name, but I think it holds the same narrative meaning as Caelus (the god) has heavy ties to the planet Jupiter, fitting the space theme. It's also the most yellow planet aside from Venus, (which is more associated with the color green due to how it appears in the sky anyway).

March 7th, DH, WY, and Himeko under cut!!

(!!!!) March 7th: It is the day March was found, but the specific date can bring some symbolism to mind. The month of march signals the beginning of of spring, a season full of new growth and revival from the stasis that winter brings. This fits into March’s character arc in her companion quest, as the garden of recollection locks away her past, essentially saying that It’s not something March should be remembering or looking for, implying something awful or traumatizing has happened to her. This shows that without those memories, March may have turned from a cold, "icy" character into a warmer, healthier one. 7 is also a lucky number, as it was very lucky that March has survived so long drifting in space and frozen, even if it was in 6 phase ice.

(!!!) Dan Heng: The character 丹 (Dān) simply means red, although it can also be pellet, powder, or cinnabar. I think this is mainly to tie in with Dan Heng’s maple leaf theme. The character 恒 (Heng) means “constant” or “persistent”, a nod to Dan Heng’s collected and steady nature compared to his eccentric companions. It may also be a reference to Dan Heng’s rebirths as a Vidyadhara or the number of years he spent inside of the Shackling Prison as Dan Feng.

Welt Yang: “Welt” is said to be the “name of the world”, but it’s really just the German word for world. “Yang” (杨) is Welt’s mother’s surname, meaning willow, poplar, or aspen, all three of them different trees. I don’t think that either of these names imply anything about Welt’s story, aside from the mantle of "welt" given to him by Welt Joyce, whoch is another post altogether. I think they highlight his responsible, powerful, and thoughtful character, as well as his sentimentality.

(!!!) (Welt Yang) Joachim Nokianvirtanen: Joachim is an abridged or contracted form of the biblical name Jehoiachin or Jehoiakim. They mean "Yaweh will establish" and "raised by Yaweh" respectively. Yaweh is a name of the Hebrew god, with possible roots to the old Semitic root הוה (hawah), meaning "to be" or "to become." This name is a probable reference to Welt inheriting his mentors Herrscher core and becoming the second Herrscher of Reason. His surname, Nokianvirtanen, is not an actual last name, but a mix of two names. The first part, Nokian, is a town in Finland. The second, Virtanen, is a common surname in finland derived from the word "virta", meaning "stream." I don't interpret this surname to have any meaning aside from establishing that Welt is (not confirmed outright, but heavily implied to be) ethnically half Finnish and half Chinese.

(!!!) Himeko Murata (無量塔姫子): Her first name is comprised of the characters 姫 (hime), meaning princess, and 子 (ko), meaning child. Put the whole thing together and it means "princess child", though I'm sure I didn't have to tell you that! I think it's less about her personality and story (especially in regards to Honkai Impact 3rd), but I think it represents her parents live for her, particularly her father's, as he's the one we know most about. The characters for her last name are-- 無 (Mu; nothing/nothingness), 量 (Ra(?); measurement, but with two connotations. First, it can mean a measurement, like weight or quantity, or it can mean "to measure" by estimate or actual documentation, or "to consider."), and 塔 (Ta; pagoda, tower, steeple). I think the most important part of her name is that last part-- in both universes, Himeko acts as a rock or mentor figure to many characters, being a motherly/older sister type towards the young trio of the express, and a teacher and squad leader toward Kiana, Mei, and Bronya, going as far as to strap a bomb to Mei's heart to keep her powers in check (with Mei's consent) should she lose control. 

And that's the Astral Express crew! I'm going by groups of characters divided into: Stellaron Hunters, Herta's Space Station, Belobog, The Xianzhou Loufu, and Penacony! (Characters are ordered by introduction. Characters will be put where they were first shown, despite their relevance in other places. Dr. Ratio, for example, will be put with the HSS characters instead of the Penacony category.)

[youdontknowhowtodiequietly]

y’all, andrew’s name is like fucking remus lupins name except it’s not wolf werewolf (or smth like that) it’s basically strong strong and actually that makes me cry so fucking much cause YES HE IS!

[useless-catalanfacts]

I'm guessing now it's the same as Spanish because of imperialism, but did Catalan names originally follow the First name + Second name + Father's surname + Mother's surname naming system?

Yes, nowadays we use both surnames. We can't be sure of what would have happened, but the two surnames we have now were a Spanish imposition in most cases.

Before the 19th century, most Catalan men used only one surname. Only the upper classes had more surnames, since they often wanted to keep stacking titles (think of those really long names of nobles, if you marry into another powerful family and yours is powerful too you wouldn't want either of the lineages to get lost, the most titles you can "collect" the better!). Women could often use two surnames after getting married (their father's and their husband's).

In 1870, the Spanish law decided that civil register should have 2 surnames (first the father's and secondly the mother's) for each person to identify them better. That's how people started to have two surnames.

The most visible effect of this law, however, is the spelling. When Spanish-speaker state officers had to write down Catalan surnames, they would write them down according to Spanish spelling rules. That's why many Catalan surnames have a "Spanishified" spelling, like "Peña" instead of Penya, "Calzada" instead of Calçada, "Lladó" instead of Lledó, etc.

(As for first names, usually we only have 1 except you've been baptized, but that's not an official name and how much those 1 or 2 extra names are counted as part of your name depends on each person or family)

More information about the origin of Catalan surnames below the cut.

In the Middle Ages, Catalans had a name and a "nickname", often referred to a characteristic. Many of our surnames come from here. For example, physical attributes like Roig ("red", red-haired), Tort ("hooked"), Petit ("small"), Rossell ("blond"), Calvet ("balding"), etc; or jobs like Ferrer ("blacksmith"), Fuster ("carpenter"), Carnisser ("butcher"), Oller ("potter"), etc.

Among Catalan people, the use of surnames started being generalized in the 9th century.

In legal documents of the time, we see people are referred by who their father is. If the text was in Latin (even though people already spoke Catalan, Latin was still the most used language in writing), the first name would be in nominative case and the father's name in genitive case; if the text was in Catalan, it would be after the preposition "de", meaning "of" (same meaning as the cases in Latin). For example, Berenguer son of Ramon was Berengarius Raimundi in Latin and Berenguer de Ramon in Catalan.

Genitive case often ends in -is, that's why in Spanish and Aragonese you can find lots of surnames that come from a name+ez. For example: Sánchez would be the son of Sancho, Hernández of Hernán, López of Lope, González of Gonzalo, Rodríguez of Rodrigo, Martínez of Martín... Even nowadays, in Spain, 14 out of the 17 most common surnames are a name+ez! (Source)

This is not the case in Catalan. This Latin-derived surnames didn't become used. We only have 3 surnames with this origin (Peris, Sanxís, and Llopis) and they arrived to us from influence of Aragon, Castile and Navarre. Besides, neither of them is very common, unlike their Spanish equivalents. There was an exception in the Valencian Country, because some areas had a lot of Aragonese people as well as Catalan people or at least a strong Aragonese influence, so there existed more surnames related to the Aragonese ones.

From the 11th century on, the nobles started using the name of their lands as a surname, either after "de" (de Barcelona, d'Empúries...) or in adjective form (Barceló, Tarragó, Giró, Tàrrec). This started in the nobility to know who inherited what territories, but it was soon followed by the lower classes as well.

Lower class people often didn't have a territory to refer to and so they would use a name that made reference to their farmhouse, where they live, or other geographical terms. From here we get many of the most common Catalan surnames such as Riera ("stream"), Torrent ("watercourse"), Puig ("hill"), Pujol ("hill"), Vall ("valley") or Valls ("valleys"), Coma ("mountain pass"), Pomar ("apple orchard"), Vinyes ("vineyards"), Rovira ("oak tree forest"), Ribes ("shores") or simply the names of towns or areas like Solsona, Bages, Segarra, Agramunt, Vila, Canet, Cardona, Cabrera, Güell, Barberà, Cerdà...

All of this applies to men, but it worked differently for women because they weren't considered carriers of lineage in the same right as men, and were seen as under the property of a man (father or husband). In the Middle Ages, Catalan women usually had a feminine version of the father's surname (for example, if the father is Ferrer, she would be Ferrera). After getting married, women sometimes had both the father's and husband's surnames or only the husband's.

Source: Janer Torrens, Antoni (2014), "L'origen dels noms i cognoms catalans. Les arrels antroponímiques que marquen una identitat", II Congrés de la Societat d'Onomàstica i la XXVII Jornada d'Antroponímia i Toponímia de la UB. PDF.

[muirneach]

lol

[the-sholes-keyboard]

I recently discovered the Dutch surname Fokker, which literally means "breeder" in Dutch, which is wonderful.

[omnist-angels]

Don't really know where I'm going with this post, definitely going in the musings tag.

Anyways, I've been thinking about names a lot. I'm thinking of changing mine again soon.

I've been thinking about Muslim names, fae names, witch names. Jewish names, Soviet names, saint names. Multicultural names. Old names, Dead names, alive names.

Names reflecting who we are, or who our parents wished we would be.

How could I, genderfluid and omnist, ever keep a name forever?

How can anyone find a name that encompasses the entirety of their identity?

Or is that something to want at all, should i instead use my name to protect my identity? Force people to know me rather than let them assume they do?

Am I the only one who takes this so seriously? The task of naming anything gives me so much stress, naming myself is always the most difficult.

[teashadephoenix]

elizabeth is a family name on my momma's side. my middle name is the alleged name of the clan my dad's side of the family is from.

This poll is specifically asking about how parents named their children, so even if you have a different chosen name now, answer for your given/birth name. If you're not comfortable doing so but want to see results, just choose the "not sure" option.

Answer based on the intention when the name was chosen for you, not the actual origin - so for example if your grandmother was named Mary after the biblical figure and you were named Mary in honour of your gran, you'd answer "a relative" instead of "a religious figure".

We ask your questions so you don’t have to! Submit your questions to have them posted anonymously as polls.

[fecior-de-crai]

Hello magical people!

This is a new blog where I will be posting content mainly regarding romanian mythology, language, literature, etc, but also general cool stuff I find about mythology, culture, anthropology, literature, onomatology (the study of personal names), short story prompts and ideas, yada yada. General whimsical stuff (as vague as that sounds)!

If you're interested in those sorts of subjects, I recommend you keep an eye out on what will be posted here. I will try my best to make posts in both Romanian and English, but I think I might just focus more on the English part, because there're very scarce resources and information about romanian *shenanigans* on the internet. I will make sure to provide sources for what I post If need be, and also: since a lot of these sources don't have English translation, I will most likely provide them so please keep that in mind ^_^

That said, I hope this will be a fun and helpful blog!

(tbh I made this so I could have a place to ramble about my favorite subjects like an unsupervised feral raccoon and just spit them out into the digital sea)

Pupici vrăjitorești!

[the-cat-at-the-theatre-door]

Completely opposite from his father, who is the king of nicknames, Asparagus very rarely uses any sort of shortening of a cat's name, or nicknames or even affectionate call cards like "dear", unless he is very close with that cat.

He also just happens to be very interested in onomatology, so that's a bonus. Or not. Depends who you ask - some cats rather like being swept up in those sorts of 45 minute explanations.

[touchoffleece]

I had this written up before I looked at the reblogs, so enjoy my copy pasta adding to this topic.

I headcanon-ed Juliana having a one sided crush on 'Cool Older Neighbor' Nemona who encouraged her to be a trainer and had a blast playing through the story. 😌 All the pretty women also added to my headcanon of her 'gay awakening journey'. Was Battling Geeta the top obstacle for my baby gay mc while completing the league ? No. It was Rika. Julianna gave me mad gay energy from the minute I looked up their names and the meaning behind them (Even Florian gives gay energy in my personal opinion), and I love and will love gen 9 for it. Maybe it's how gender neutral the designs and names for the gen 9 protagonists are that help make it feel so fruity to people not in denial about lgbtqi+ people existing. Julianna (the name) having ties to Roman culture influence in Spain, as well as a tie in to the name Julius in favor of giving that reference to the male protagonist of the game. Compared to the last generation name tie ins where it was very plain and simple Victor going towards the male protagonist and giving the female character the very feminine sounding name of Gloria; when she could have easily been named Victoria while referencing one of England's most famous Queens (I understand the references they chose were for verses in God Save the Queen, but my point is about how gay gen 9 protags are compared to previous gens). Florian (the name) meanwhile is a rather feminine meaning blossoming or flower. Once again compared to the previous generation gen 9 twisted the expectations of having the femme sounding name be given to the male protagonist. Their character designs gives off fruity vibes in the non gender conforming way; from their neutral styled hair to the meaning/origins of their names.

You know normally I'd be all over shipping, especially the protagonist of these games, Red and Blue? Good for them. Lyra/Silver? Classic. White and/or Black with N? That was an era let me tell you. Selene or Moon/Lillie? My god man I still ship those two.

But now I've reached my limit, I cannot ship these two new protagonists in pokemon scarlet and violet, they are baby, they're Small Childs. I'm not nearly done with the game so maybe I'll be convinced later on but for now I cannot ship these two with anyone.

HOWEVER! Juliana? Total baby gay, tiny lesbian who is absolutely experiencing her first crush, among many since there are so many cute character in SV. Even if she might not realize it. Nemona is a Very Cool Older Girl no way do they not have a crush on her.

I need to spread this headcanon while the pokemon tag is at its high point.

[rainwolfheart]

Generated first names for Rook

I'm a huge nerd about naming customs, and I'm really intrigued by this name generator feature in the Veilguard character creator, so here's a compilation of the generated first names I've seen in videos so far.

Disclaimer that I can't guarantee that all of these were generated by the game rather than by the player, but in most videos you see the player replacing one of these with a name of their choice, so I figured it was a safe bet. Shoutout to Ghil Dirthalen on YouTube in particular for actually talking about the name generator and showing several generated names!

Burhan (qunari, she/her?, woman?, Lords of Fortune, source)

Esha (qunari, she/her, woman, Lords of Fortune, source)

Esha (qunari, she/her?, woman?, Lords of Fortune, source)

Filip (qunari, she/her?, woman?, Lords of Fortune, source)

Grier (elf, he/him, man, Shadow Dragons, source)

Jirell (qunari, she/her?, woman?, Lords of Fortune, source)

Kalais (qunari, she/her?, woman?, Lords of Fortune, source)

Lorant (dwarf, he/him, man, Veil Jumper, source)

Lorant (qunari, she/her?, woman?, Lords of Fortune, source)

Turvi (qunari, she/her?, woman?, Lords of Fortune, source)

Veryl (qunari, she/her?, woman?, Lords of Fortune, source)

There's one more name I came across that seems likely to have been a player input, but that I can't verify:

Veil (elf, she/her, woman, Antivan Crows, source)

The namebank seems limited, as I saw a two names come up more than once: Esha and Lorant. While both Eshas were essentially the same build, both Lorants were quite different: a Veil Jumper dwarf man and a Lords of Fortune qunari who I guessed was a woman. That, plus the fact that it generated Filip (a name I would instinctively associate with a human male) for a (presumably female) qunari, leads me to believe there's a single namebank that doesn't take into account lineage, pronouns, gender, or faction. But who knows!

There also seems to be a name generator for Inquisitors, but I haven't seen anyone click that button yet, so the only name I've seen is the default female Lavellan name, Ellana (source). I wonder if the namebank will be the same as the one for Rooks, or will be separate?

Please let me know if you have more info on this, and I'll keep this post up to date!

Also, if you're also a name nerd, follow my new name blog @rains-onomatology

[starfxkrinc]

obx name meta is so fun and onomatology has been a special interest of mine since i had dreams of being an author at 10 so thats why i refuse to accept *that* as jjs name lowkey

love popes name tho. pope heyward is such a distinctly southern black name in a way i cant describe thats a toni morrison novel name

[getyouanearthygirl]

EM inspired names

I made this as a resource for Eddie writers because I love onomatology. So, if you need a name for a kid, here ya go. Yes, I’ve thought about this too much. I broken it up into categories…

#1 Rockstar names

Ozzy/Ozzie

Dio

Ronnie

Jett

Alice

Judas (Judah if you’re feeling more hinged)

#2 Fantasy/Mythology

Arwen (lotr)

Eowyn (lotr)

Bastian (the neverending story)

Willow (Willow)

Elora (Willow)

Sorcha (Willow)

Thea (Amalthea from the last unicorn)

Elspeth (Dragonslayer)

Ulrich (Dragonslayer)

Seth (the beastmaster)

Kegan (Krull)

Sarah (Labyrinth)

Elowen

Faye

Athena

Rhiannon

Deirdre

Evander

Orion

Thora

Zephyr

#3 Horror Movies/Demons/etc

Damien (the omen)

Carrie (Carrie)

Lilith

Azriel

Malachi

Ash (evil dead)

Bael

Ripley (alien)

Regan (the exorcist)

#4 names that mean dark

Adrienne (ADRIE @pinkrelish)

Keira (Kira is also a character from the dark crystal)

Layla (also a rock reference)

Darcy

[muirneach]

just saw a four year old on instagram named graham. didn’t know they were still naming people that one

[priderock-inc]

How did Scar get his scar?

A couple of neighborhood kids beat him up when he was eight. Mufasa rescued him, but instead of being angry at the bullies, Ahadi was furious with his younger son for letting himself be attacked like that.

He made both boys start karate lessons the very next week, despite Uru's protests and the bandage over Taka's eye.

(A fic I did a while back) (under the cut if you'd rather read it here)

"New screen?" Sarabi asks, peering over Mufasa's shoulder as she sets two steaming cups of coffee down on the desk in front of the CEO. Zazu looks up from the papers he's shuffling through. He rather resents interruption, but for caffeine- well. He'll make an exception. 

Mufasa chuckles, deep and melodic. "Mother sent it to me yesterday. She likes looking through old photos every now and then."

Intrigued, Sarabi leans closer, and Mufasa tilts his phone so Zazu can see too. Torn between professional decorum and innate curiosity, Zazu hesitates. It's hardly necessary to see such a thing. It's personal, it's-

-it's a child's drawing, a red stick figure with a wide, beaming mouth and deep orange fusilli sprouting from its head, holding hands with a smaller figure, done in black with two spots of vibrant green crayon in the spherical thing resting atop the body.

"It's you and Taka!" Sarabi coos. "Oh, how adorable! How old were you when you did this?"

All thoughts of professionalism crumble and are lost to Zazu's mind. "Taka?"

Mufasa's voice is tinged with fond reminiscence and something else that Zazu can't quite name. "He started going by Scar when he was about eleven. Thanks for the coffee, Sarabi, you're a lifesaver. Could you get Rafiki's signature on this, please?"

Taka?

Sarabi takes the proffered document and leaves, still grinning, and Zazu swallows. 

Taka? Surely no parent would give such a foreboding praenomen, Scar, to a baby- but he can hardly imagine the VP by any other moniker. 

Mufasa correctly interprets Zazu's silence. He shrugs, a hint of sadness flickering across his face, almost too quick to catch. "He doesn't like to talk about it. Don't mention it to him, all right?"

"I won't say anything to… him," Zazu murmurs. The name is strange, almost taboo, in his mouth when he allows himself a taste. "To… to Taka. I won't mention it."

"And what precisely is it that we are not going to mention to Taka?"

Zazu utters a thoroughly undignified squawk of shock, spinning on the spot. He hadn't even heard the door open.

But for once, Scar doesn't delight in the flustered state he's managed to land Zazu in yet again. He stands in the doorway, white-knuckled fingers clenched around the folder in his hand, his usual effortless poise gone in the rigid lines of his posture.

"Memory lane," Mufasa says, lightly, and Zazu is very, very glad that the venomous green gaze isn't directed at him, slicing him to ribbons. The CEO holds out his phone. "Remember this drawing I did, the one I was so proud of? Mother sent me a photo of it yesterday."

Scar's mouth twists into a vicious, ugly sneer. "Ah, yes. The one I've been begging Mother to burn for the past decade. How deliciously innocent. Unmarred. Unscarred."

"Scar-" Zazu stammers, because apparently his mouth has a death wish.

"Zazu." Redolent poison caresses each syllable.  "Always so eager to assist and advise, hmm?"

Mufasa makes a quick gesture, half-conciliatory, half-warning. Scar ignores it entirely, viridian sabers now boring into Zazu.

"How's your onomatology?" he breathes. "Why might my worthless father have bestowed such a name on me?"

"I-"

"Taka. Trash." The word is a sibilant hiss. It slithers through the air, curling around the room's atmosphere, suffocating it. "Garbage."

The walls seem to constrict.

"Scar." Mufasa stands up. "This isn't the time or the place-"

"For cheerful jaunts down memory lane, brother dear? No? Did Mother send you other photos to pass around to the staff? Of beloved Mufasa and darling little Taka, smiling, holding hands, happy?"

"Scar."

"Of Taka's long curls before dear Father took it upon himself to shear them off? Of Taka, who thought the world was full of magic and wonderful things to discover, thinking he'd one day learn the coveted secret of how to please the man who couldn't be pleased at anything that wasn't from his golden boy?"

Zazu swallows hard. He'll take flustering over this, any day, he'll take anything over this. 

"Taka and Mufasa, together forever." Scar gives the drawing one last withering look. "How nice it must be to have such memories preserved, with none of the lingering darkness surrounding them."

He advances several steps; Zazu tries and fails to stop himself from shrinking back, but all the vice president does is drop the folder abruptly on the desk before turning on his heel and striding out the door.

It closes, as quietly as it had opened.

Zazu grabs one of the cups and takes a gulp of the scalding liquid.

Ever the optimist, Mufasa breaks the silence with a subdued murmur as he slumps back into his chair. "That really could have gone a lot worse." 

Another boiling mouthful of coffee. It burns as it goes down, but it clears Zazu's head a bit. Strangely, the only question he can think to ask is-

"Did he really have hair like that?"

Mufasa's gaze softens, and he nods slowly. "Yes. He's always liked it long. That's why he wears it like this now. He had the nicest black curls."

Yet another swig of hot caffeine. Sarabi really is a lifesaver.

"...it also means wish."

Zazu tries to respond without swallowing. It doesn't work very well. Coughing, he manages, "Whuh?"

"The name Taka. It can mean wish or want."

"Your mother's influence," Zazu croaks, still trying to clear his throat.

Mufasa nods. He picks up the folder Scar left and starts paging through it, dropping his head so Zazu can't see the look on his face.

"It was a nice drawing," Zazu offers, somewhat belatedly, after the awkward silence had gone on too far for comfort.

It earns a laugh. "I think my talents lie in other directions, Zazu. I'm hardly the professional artist type." 

"I suppose not." Zazu chases away the last of the lingering chill- and the encounter that caused it- with the remainder of his coffee, and fastidiously turns his attention back to the papers on the desk.

[dinagothsdress]

🌻 ✨ this stupid baka life isn't going according to keikaku ✨ 🌻

the basics:

i'm kass! <3 (she/they)

i'm a chaotic arospec wlw and also audhd!! so don't be surprised if that influences what i post on here xx

i'm the host of a DID system so if my views/behaviour/attitude/fandoms/politics/gender/sexuality seem inconsistent at times, that is why. (the main one aside from me is armie, he/him)

my hobbies and interests outside of shitposting and gaming include: onomatology/linguistics, writing and worldbuilding, aviation, seismology, fishkeeping, music, and clinical psychology.

everything else:

this blog is a bit of a mess but i'm too lazy to maintain sideblogs. ANYWAY expect a mix of shitposts and multi-fandom stuff. i tag fandoms so you can easily block the tag if it's annoying or not your kinda thing.

current fandom hyperfixations:

(as of september 2024)

the sims (mainly 3 and 2) (special shoutout to 2000s sims 2 cc, i love you even if it's hard to find you now) pssst: my simblr is @peridot--sims

grand theft auto (esp. SA and 4 rn) (niko bellic my beloved) (further shoutout to bully/CCE)

house md (yet more old man yaoi, except it also feeds my medical hyperfixations) (also cuddy is a lesbian the writers were wrong actually)

project zomboid (my beloved)

dni/byf because i'm a special lil snowflake who needs their mental health preserving:

A) i'd rather minors didn't follow as i don't like the feeling of having to censor myself; B) political discourse is a big DID/PTSD trigger (i.e. a bad one) so i will not follow any overtly political blogs, and will unfollow if you start posting a lot of serious political posts regardless of if i agree or not; psst: i blacklist the tags "politics" "political" and "discourse" so moots pls tag~ C) i avoid discourse of any variety for the same reason, so keep petty internet/fandom BS away from me too or barney will bite you /neg