#Onomatology

[al-zel]

Explaining every H:SR characters name, Part 1-- The Astral Express Crew!

I’ll put a symbol →(!!!) on every section that has a potential spoiler.

Stelle: A shortened version of the French name Estelle, meaning “star”. This name was derived from the Latin word “stella”. As for how it applies to the character, I’m sure it’s meant to show that the trailblazers true place is among the astral express exploring the cosmos. It might also be a reference to the Stellarons appearance.

Caelus: Derived from the Latin word “caelum”, Caelus is a name that means “sky” or “the heavens”. This name also belonged to the Roman god of the sky. It’s a little more convoluted than Stelle’s more straightforward name, but I think it holds the same narrative meaning as Caelus (the god) has heavy ties to the planet Jupiter, fitting the space theme. It's also the most yellow planet aside from Venus, (which is more associated with the color green due to how it appears in the sky anyway).

March 7th, DH, WY, and Himeko under cut!!

(!!!!) March 7th: It is the day March was found, but the specific date can bring some symbolism to mind. The month of march signals the beginning of of spring, a season full of new growth and revival from the stasis that winter brings. This fits into March’s character arc in her companion quest, as the garden of recollection locks away her past, essentially saying that It’s not something March should be remembering or looking for, implying something awful or traumatizing has happened to her. This shows that without those memories, March may have turned from a cold, "icy" character into a warmer, healthier one. 7 is also a lucky number, as it was very lucky that March has survived so long drifting in space and frozen, even if it was in 6 phase ice.

(!!!) Dan Heng: The character 丹 (Dān) simply means red, although it can also be pellet, powder, or cinnabar. I think this is mainly to tie in with Dan Heng’s maple leaf theme. The character 恒 (Heng) means “constant” or “persistent”, a nod to Dan Heng’s collected and steady nature compared to his eccentric companions. It may also be a reference to Dan Heng’s rebirths as a Vidyadhara or the number of years he spent inside of the Shackling Prison as Dan Feng.

Welt Yang: “Welt” is said to be the “name of the world”, but it’s really just the German word for world. “Yang” (杨) is Welt’s mother’s surname, meaning willow, poplar, or aspen, all three of them different trees. I don’t think that either of these names imply anything about Welt’s story, aside from the mantle of "welt" given to him by Welt Joyce, whoch is another post altogether. I think they highlight his responsible, powerful, and thoughtful character, as well as his sentimentality.

(!!!) (Welt Yang) Joachim Nokianvirtanen: Joachim is an abridged or contracted form of the biblical name Jehoiachin or Jehoiakim. They mean "Yaweh will establish" and "raised by Yaweh" respectively. Yaweh is a name of the Hebrew god, with possible roots to the old Semitic root הוה (hawah), meaning "to be" or "to become." This name is a probable reference to Welt inheriting his mentors Herrscher core and becoming the second Herrscher of Reason. His surname, Nokianvirtanen, is not an actual last name, but a mix of two names. The first part, Nokian, is a town in Finland. The second, Virtanen, is a common surname in finland derived from the word "virta", meaning "stream." I don't interpret this surname to have any meaning aside from establishing that Welt is (not confirmed outright, but heavily implied to be) ethnically half Finnish and half Chinese.

(!!!) Himeko Murata (無量塔姫子): Her first name is comprised of the characters 姫 (hime), meaning princess, and 子 (ko), meaning child. Put the whole thing together and it means "princess child", though I'm sure I didn't have to tell you that! I think it's less about her personality and story (especially in regards to Honkai Impact 3rd), but I think it represents her parents live for her, particularly her father's, as he's the one we know most about. The characters for her last name are-- 無 (Mu; nothing/nothingness), 量 (Ra(?); measurement, but with two connotations. First, it can mean a measurement, like weight or quantity, or it can mean "to measure" by estimate or actual documentation, or "to consider."), and 塔 (Ta; pagoda, tower, steeple). I think the most important part of her name is that last part-- in both universes, Himeko acts as a rock or mentor figure to many characters, being a motherly/older sister type towards the young trio of the express, and a teacher and squad leader toward Kiana, Mei, and Bronya, going as far as to strap a bomb to Mei's heart to keep her powers in check (with Mei's consent) should she lose control. 

And that's the Astral Express crew! I'm going by groups of characters divided into: Stellaron Hunters, Herta's Space Station, Belobog, The Xianzhou Loufu, and Penacony! (Characters are ordered by introduction. Characters will be put where they were first shown, despite their relevance in other places. Dr. Ratio, for example, will be put with the HSS characters instead of the Penacony category.)

[youdontknowhowtodiequietly]

y’all, andrew’s name is like fucking remus lupins name except it’s not wolf werewolf (or smth like that) it’s basically strong strong and actually that makes me cry so fucking much cause YES HE IS!

[useless-catalanfacts]

I'm guessing now it's the same as Spanish because of imperialism, but did Catalan names originally follow the First name + Second name + Father's surname + Mother's surname naming system?

Yes, nowadays we use both surnames. We can't be sure of what would have happened, but the two surnames we have now were a Spanish imposition in most cases.

Before the 19th century, most Catalan men used only one surname. Only the upper classes had more surnames, since they often wanted to keep stacking titles (think of those really long names of nobles, if you marry into another powerful family and yours is powerful too you wouldn't want either of the lineages to get lost, the most titles you can "collect" the better!). Women could often use two surnames after getting married (their father's and their husband's).

In 1870, the Spanish law decided that civil register should have 2 surnames (first the father's and secondly the mother's) for each person to identify them better. That's how people started to have two surnames.

The most visible effect of this law, however, is the spelling. When Spanish-speaker state officers had to write down Catalan surnames, they would write them down according to Spanish spelling rules. That's why many Catalan surnames have a "Spanishified" spelling, like "Peña" instead of Penya, "Calzada" instead of Calçada, "Lladó" instead of Lledó, etc.

(As for first names, usually we only have 1 except you've been baptized, but that's not an official name and how much those 1 or 2 extra names are counted as part of your name depends on each person or family)

More information about the origin of Catalan surnames below the cut.

In the Middle Ages, Catalans had a name and a "nickname", often referred to a characteristic. Many of our surnames come from here. For example, physical attributes like Roig ("red", red-haired), Tort ("hooked"), Petit ("small"), Rossell ("blond"), Calvet ("balding"), etc; or jobs like Ferrer ("blacksmith"), Fuster ("carpenter"), Carnisser ("butcher"), Oller ("potter"), etc.

Among Catalan people, the use of surnames started being generalized in the 9th century.

In legal documents of the time, we see people are referred by who their father is. If the text was in Latin (even though people already spoke Catalan, Latin was still the most used language in writing), the first name would be in nominative case and the father's name in genitive case; if the text was in Catalan, it would be after the preposition "de", meaning "of" (same meaning as the cases in Latin). For example, Berenguer son of Ramon was Berengarius Raimundi in Latin and Berenguer de Ramon in Catalan.

Genitive case often ends in -is, that's why in Spanish and Aragonese you can find lots of surnames that come from a name+ez. For example: Sánchez would be the son of Sancho, Hernández of Hernán, López of Lope, González of Gonzalo, Rodríguez of Rodrigo, Martínez of Martín... Even nowadays, in Spain, 14 out of the 17 most common surnames are a name+ez! (Source)

This is not the case in Catalan. This Latin-derived surnames didn't become used. We only have 3 surnames with this origin (Peris, Sanxís, and Llopis) and they arrived to us from influence of Aragon, Castile and Navarre. Besides, neither of them is very common, unlike their Spanish equivalents. There was an exception in the Valencian Country, because some areas had a lot of Aragonese people as well as Catalan people or at least a strong Aragonese influence, so there existed more surnames related to the Aragonese ones.

From the 11th century on, the nobles started using the name of their lands as a surname, either after "de" (de Barcelona, d'Empúries...) or in adjective form (Barceló, Tarragó, Giró, Tàrrec). This started in the nobility to know who inherited what territories, but it was soon followed by the lower classes as well.

Lower class people often didn't have a territory to refer to and so they would use a name that made reference to their farmhouse, where they live, or other geographical terms. From here we get many of the most common Catalan surnames such as Riera ("stream"), Torrent ("watercourse"), Puig ("hill"), Pujol ("hill"), Vall ("valley") or Valls ("valleys"), Coma ("mountain pass"), Pomar ("apple orchard"), Vinyes ("vineyards"), Rovira ("oak tree forest"), Ribes ("shores") or simply the names of towns or areas like Solsona, Bages, Segarra, Agramunt, Vila, Canet, Cardona, Cabrera, Güell, Barberà, Cerdà...

All of this applies to men, but it worked differently for women because they weren't considered carriers of lineage in the same right as men, and were seen as under the property of a man (father or husband). In the Middle Ages, Catalan women usually had a feminine version of the father's surname (for example, if the father is Ferrer, she would be Ferrera). After getting married, women sometimes had both the father's and husband's surnames or only the husband's.

Source: Janer Torrens, Antoni (2014), "L'origen dels noms i cognoms catalans. Les arrels antroponímiques que marquen una identitat", II Congrés de la Societat d'Onomàstica i la XXVII Jornada d'Antroponímia i Toponímia de la UB. PDF.

[frankencanon]

just realized these names (Max and Jax) are really similar actually:

✓ short form of a surname (Maxwell, Jackson)

✓ aforementioned surname was originally formatted as "[Name]'s [x]" (Mack's well, Jack's son)

✓ the plural became combined with the original name over time (Mack → Mack's → Max, Jack → Jack's → Jax)

✓ original name is slang for man (ex. guy)

[muirneach]

lol

[the-sholes-keyboard]

I recently discovered the Dutch surname Fokker, which literally means "breeder" in Dutch, which is wonderful.

[teashadephoenix]

elizabeth is a family name on my momma's side. my middle name is the alleged name of the clan my dad's side of the family is from.

This poll is specifically asking about how parents named their children, so even if you have a different chosen name now, answer for your given/birth name. If you're not comfortable doing so but want to see results, just choose the "not sure" option.

Answer based on the intention when the name was chosen for you, not the actual origin - so for example if your grandmother was named Mary after the biblical figure and you were named Mary in honour of your gran, you'd answer "a relative" instead of "a religious figure".

We ask your questions so you don’t have to! Submit your questions to have them posted anonymously as polls.

[fecior-de-crai]

Hello magical people!

This is a new blog where I will be posting content mainly regarding romanian mythology, language, literature, etc, but also general cool stuff I find about mythology, culture, anthropology, literature, onomatology (the study of personal names), short story prompts and ideas, yada yada. General whimsical stuff (as vague as that sounds)!

If you're interested in those sorts of subjects, I recommend you keep an eye out on what will be posted here. I will try my best to make posts in both Romanian and English, but I think I might just focus more on the English part, because there're very scarce resources and information about romanian *shenanigans* on the internet. I will make sure to provide sources for what I post If need be, and also: since a lot of these sources don't have English translation, I will most likely provide them so please keep that in mind ^_^

That said, I hope this will be a fun and helpful blog!

(tbh I made this so I could have a place to ramble about my favorite subjects like an unsupervised feral raccoon and just spit them out into the digital sea)

Pupici vrăjitorești!

[that-cool-queer]

Onomatology of Timelords

decided to have some fun + analysed the doctor and master's names and ended up writing a short essay :D its set up like a UNIT file just bc i could

google doc link for the people <33

[touchoffleece]

I had this written up before I looked at the reblogs, so enjoy my copy pasta adding to this topic.

I headcanon-ed Juliana having a one sided crush on 'Cool Older Neighbor' Nemona who encouraged her to be a trainer and had a blast playing through the story. 😌 All the pretty women also added to my headcanon of her 'gay awakening journey'. Was Battling Geeta the top obstacle for my baby gay mc while completing the league ? No. It was Rika. Julianna gave me mad gay energy from the minute I looked up their names and the meaning behind them (Even Florian gives gay energy in my personal opinion), and I love and will love gen 9 for it. Maybe it's how gender neutral the designs and names for the gen 9 protagonists are that help make it feel so fruity to people not in denial about lgbtqi+ people existing. Julianna (the name) having ties to Roman culture influence in Spain, as well as a tie in to the name Julius in favor of giving that reference to the male protagonist of the game. Compared to the last generation name tie ins where it was very plain and simple Victor going towards the male protagonist and giving the female character the very feminine sounding name of Gloria; when she could have easily been named Victoria while referencing one of England's most famous Queens (I understand the references they chose were for verses in God Save the Queen, but my point is about how gay gen 9 protags are compared to previous gens). Florian (the name) meanwhile is a rather feminine meaning blossoming or flower. Once again compared to the previous generation gen 9 twisted the expectations of having the femme sounding name be given to the male protagonist. Their character designs gives off fruity vibes in the non gender conforming way; from their neutral styled hair to the meaning/origins of their names.

You know normally I'd be all over shipping, especially the protagonist of these games, Red and Blue? Good for them. Lyra/Silver? Classic. White and/or Black with N? That was an era let me tell you. Selene or Moon/Lillie? My god man I still ship those two.

But now I've reached my limit, I cannot ship these two new protagonists in pokemon scarlet and violet, they are baby, they're Small Childs. I'm not nearly done with the game so maybe I'll be convinced later on but for now I cannot ship these two with anyone.

HOWEVER! Juliana? Total baby gay, tiny lesbian who is absolutely experiencing her first crush, among many since there are so many cute character in SV. Even if she might not realize it. Nemona is a Very Cool Older Girl no way do they not have a crush on her.

I need to spread this headcanon while the pokemon tag is at its high point.

[rainwolfheart]

Generated first names for Rook

I'm a huge nerd about naming customs, and I'm really intrigued by this name generator feature in the Veilguard character creator, so here's a compilation of the generated first names I've seen in videos so far.

Disclaimer that I can't guarantee that all of these were generated by the game rather than by the player, but in most videos you see the player replacing one of these with a name of their choice, so I figured it was a safe bet. Shoutout to Ghil Dirthalen on YouTube in particular for actually talking about the name generator and showing several generated names!

Burhan (qunari, she/her?, woman?, Lords of Fortune, source)

Esha (qunari, she/her, woman, Lords of Fortune, source)

Esha (qunari, she/her?, woman?, Lords of Fortune, source)

Filip (qunari, she/her?, woman?, Lords of Fortune, source)

Grier (elf, he/him, man, Shadow Dragons, source)

Jirell (qunari, she/her?, woman?, Lords of Fortune, source)

Kalais (qunari, she/her?, woman?, Lords of Fortune, source)

Lorant (dwarf, he/him, man, Veil Jumper, source)

Lorant (qunari, she/her?, woman?, Lords of Fortune, source)

Turvi (qunari, she/her?, woman?, Lords of Fortune, source)

Veryl (qunari, she/her?, woman?, Lords of Fortune, source)

There's one more name I came across that seems likely to have been a player input, but that I can't verify:

Veil (elf, she/her, woman, Antivan Crows, source)

The namebank seems limited, as I saw a two names come up more than once: Esha and Lorant. While both Eshas were essentially the same build, both Lorants were quite different: a Veil Jumper dwarf man and a Lords of Fortune qunari who I guessed was a woman. That, plus the fact that it generated Filip (a name I would instinctively associate with a human male) for a (presumably female) qunari, leads me to believe there's a single namebank that doesn't take into account lineage, pronouns, gender, or faction. But who knows!

There also seems to be a name generator for Inquisitors, but I haven't seen anyone click that button yet, so the only name I've seen is the default female Lavellan name, Ellana (source). I wonder if the namebank will be the same as the one for Rooks, or will be separate?

Please let me know if you have more info on this, and I'll keep this post up to date!

Also, if you're also a name nerd, follow my new name blog @rains-onomatology

[griffinkid]

how are you so good at coming up with names for your stuffed animals? :)

I don't know if you wanted a serious answer or not, but here's a serious one anyway

Onomatology (study of names) is one of my lifelong special interests. When I was a kid, I could have listed off thousands of names, their origins and meanings. I fell out of the way of it when I was a teenager, but in the last few years, I've got back into it… so I always have name ideas!

I 'collect' names from everywhere; names I hear spoken on the street, or read in books, or see on TV. I always read the opening and closing credits of TV/films, because there'll be so many nice names in the lists of cast and crew that I've never heard before, particularly on big productions that span countries.

I recommend writing down names when you hear ones that you like so you can remember them later, take a note of which names you particularly like- if, say, you find that lots of the names you like are Greek, you can look for more Greek names that you hadn't heard before.

Hopefully that's helpful advice, go find some cool names 👍🏻

[starfxkrinc]

obx name meta is so fun and onomatology has been a special interest of mine since i had dreams of being an author at 10 so thats why i refuse to accept *that* as jjs name lowkey

love popes name tho. pope heyward is such a distinctly southern black name in a way i cant describe thats a toni morrison novel name

[getyouanearthygirl]

EM inspired names

I made this as a resource for Eddie writers because I love onomatology. So, if you need a name for a kid, here ya go. Yes, I’ve thought about this too much. I broken it up into categories…

#1 Rockstar names

Ozzy/Ozzie

Dio

Ronnie

Jett

Alice

Judas (Judah if you’re feeling more hinged)

#2 Fantasy/Mythology

Arwen (lotr)

Eowyn (lotr)

Bastian (the neverending story)

Willow (Willow)

Elora (Willow)

Sorcha (Willow)

Thea (Amalthea from the last unicorn)

Elspeth (Dragonslayer)

Ulrich (Dragonslayer)

Seth (the beastmaster)

Kegan (Krull)

Sarah (Labyrinth)

Elowen

Faye

Athena

Rhiannon

Deirdre

Evander

Orion

Thora

Zephyr

#3 Horror Movies/Demons/etc

Damien (the omen)

Carrie (Carrie)

Lilith

Azriel

Malachi

Ash (evil dead)

Bael

Ripley (alien)

Regan (the exorcist)

#4 names that mean dark

Adrienne (ADRIE @pinkrelish)

Keira (Kira is also a character from the dark crystal)

Layla (also a rock reference)

Darcy

[muirneach]

irish names r literally so sexy and cool and not hard to pronounce but u people are just cowards

[dinagothsdress]

🌻 ✨ this stupid baka life isn't going according to keikaku ✨ 🌻

the basics:

i'm kass! <3 (she/they) (here's my little labels hoard)

my hobbies and interests outside of shitposting and gaming include: onomatology/linguistics, writing and worldbuilding, aviation, seismology, fishkeeping, music, and clinical psychology.

this blog is a bit of a mess but i'm too lazy to maintain sideblogs. therefore, expect a mix of shitposts and multi-fandom stuff.

i tag fandoms so you can easily block the tag if it's annoying or not your kinda thing.

current fandom hyperfixations:

(as of september 2024)

the sims (special shoutout to 2000s sims 2 cc, i love you even if it's hard to find you now)

pssst: my simblr is @peridot--sims

house md (yet more old man yaoi, except it also feeds my medical hyperfixations) (also cuddy is a lesbian the writers were wrong actually)

duran duran + depeche mode (thank you for inventing synthpop) (honourable mentions to devo + ymo)

project zomboid (my beloved)

balatro (i hate you i hate you i love you)

byf: [political] discourse is a big DID/PTSD trigger so i will not follow any overtly political or discourse-based blogs. i will unfollow anyone if you start posting a lot of serious political posts/debates (esp. untagged), especially if it's of the pseudointellectual BS variety and/or falls outside of my alignment (ancom).

psst: i blacklist the tags "politics" "political" and "discourse"

MOOTS PLEASE TAG THESE!