#Nostos

[wonderpig204]

i was thinking about deadpool and wolverine (because of course) and I think it's really cool that they decided to use a honda odyssey as the car to feature

not only is it a typical 'soccer mum' minivan that is so far from the vibe of deadpool that it is ironic, but also: its called an ODYSSEY

DEADPOOL AND WOLVERINE MIRRORS THE ODYSSEY

the main theme of the odyssey is literally odysseus' nostos, his homecoming- similarly, dp&w centers deadpool trying to return to his home, his oikos, through an unfamiliar land filled with foes (whether this is the homeric fantasy Mediterranean sea or the void is irrelevant)

ALSO he does this by saving his 'household' (in the Greek context the house and family) from those infesting it, doing this with the help of a trusted confidant.

i have a lot to say about this film.

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Nostos: Il ritorno / Nostos: The Return Franco Piavoli. 1989

Ithaca Via della Torre, 25, 37022 Fumane VR, Italy See in map

See in imdb

[ronthedunedain]

What do I know of this place, the role of the tree for decades taken by a bonsai, voices rising from the tennis courts — Fields. Smell of the tall grass, new cut. As one expects of a lyric poet. We look at the world once, in childhood. The rest is memory.

Louise Glück, Nostos

[greekmythcomix]

What is Nostos in the Odyssey?

Fun fact - nostalgia’ is a term not coined until the 17th Century:

νόστος (nóstos), “yearning for home”

nostos + ἄλ��ος (álgos), “pain” or “ache”

= Nostalgia – “the pain of yearning for home/the past” (C17thAD)

[herheadinfilmspodcast]

Nostos: The Return (Franco Piavoli, 1989)

[somehowwow]

We look at the world once, in childhood.

The rest is memory.

Louise Glück

[mareenavee]

An Illusion of Competence

Hehehe. SURPRISE! Happy early birthday, @kookaburra1701! Chaos weekend here, and I channeled that energy into a chaos thief Orc, Luzrah gro-Shar. She's amazing, and I love her. Thank you for the brainwyrm! She didn't even have a tag, you know lol that's how much of a shell she was. We love a good shell NPC! I can't wait to see what you do with her in your fic universe!!!!!!! 🤩

without further ado:

An Illusion of Competence

Shit. No. This couldn’t be right! How could they possibly have found her already? Who would even think to go looking for her in this hellhole slum of the city, anyway? Damn it, but if she didn’t get out of this, Vex was going to be so pissed off at her for royally screwing up this job over almost nothing—you know, just like the last one. She couldn’t help herself—the opportunity was right there, and who cared if pickpocketing wasn’t supposed to be the task at hand? The Guild needed the gold desperately, didn’t it? Ugh. Distractions aplenty, unfortunately.

Luzrah gro-Shar snuck around the corner of the Grey Quarter, pulling the hood of her cloak up to cover her very obvious flame-red hair, trying and failing to blend in with a passing crowd of Dunmer. No matter where she went, she didn’t quite fit in, so this was nothing new. She was taller and stronger than most Nords, for one, and green, for another—which caused all kinds of people to stare at her in open disgust. That, and she was a bard, more or less. Or—she could be, given practice. She carried a lute around and everything. It wasn’t what Orcs were known for, generally speaking—she’d only ever met one other who also happened to be a bard, and he was…yeah, he was not a good singer, to put it bluntly. She could at least carry a tune in a bucket, but the bucket was, technically, rusty and full of holes—you can take that as you will. It certainly said a lot more about her thin cover story the closer anyone looked, but now was not the time for worrying over that—it had served its purpose perfectly fine. That is, until now.

She sighed as the sound of the guards clattering along in their Stormcloak blues echoed off of the ancient stone walls. Windhelm, as unforgiving and cold as ever, was nothing but a patch of clear ice over here in the Grey Quarter. Figures. Luzrah wasn’t any stranger to the weather this far north, but she was not dressed for this kind of sport. She struggled to keep her balance as she slid down a slight incline in boots made more for trudging through mud in the Strongholds rather than through all this abysmal weather. Malacath’s toenails, but she wished these imbecile guards would give up already! Her legs ached as she turned a corner and then another, ending up in the market outside of the Alchemist’s shop, mind racing and looking for an escape route. Did they need a bard? It was possible. If she slowed down and acted natural, maybe it would—no. Nope, it wasn’t—she’d tried that in Candlehearth, where it made sense at least, and look where it got her. You’d think she’d learn to work around the misfortune by now, but of course not, otherwise she wouldn’t be in this mess. She could, at least, attempt to lose them. As far as she’d known, they hadn’t seen her face yet.-> Read the rest on AO3!

[tri-ciclo]

NOSTOS Franco Piavoli

[fieriframes]

[Nostos.]

[alatismeni-theitsa]

Do you have any expectations about this upcoming "The Return" Odyssey-based movie by Uberto Passolini with Ralph Fiennes as Odysseus and Juliette Binoche as Penelope? What are your thoughts? Do you think they'll respect the material, and include the magical elements (a realistic approach would be way more difficult than in a Troy adaptation tbh)? Do you feel they'll cast Greek/Mediterranean actors (at least for secondary characters, the Ithaca trio roles are already taken) or will they prefer the already classical "diverse" casting that excludes Greek actors while recreating the most famous Greek myth?

Hmm it looks promising! The director and the actors are good, and the shooting was done in in Kerkyra and the Peloponnese so the landscape will be accurate. The fact that they got into the trouble of coming here could show their dedication to accuracy.

They were filming in the old acropolis / Byzantine Fortress of Angelokastro and that's where the palace of Odysseus will probably be. Which makes sense because for all the Hellenic settlements the fortresses/acropolis were always at the highest point of the landscape - since the Mycenean years. So, that's a good sign for me.

I think both Juliette Binoche and Ralph Fiennes can pass for local Greeks but I'd like more Greeks in the cast. (My tongue will grow hair from so many times I've said it!!) Thankfully, the cast has many Italians (our literal and metaphorical bros) and some Greeks as well in the production. (Aslanian as a surname sounds Armenian? Overall it's good that people from cultures close to the Mediterranean are involved.) And since it's filmed in Greece perhaps there would be smaller actors or extras that are locals.

I think it will be a quality movie, but let's see!

[v-a-t-i-o]

smoking at steps rn feeling like a 5th year hs student

[totheescapement]

A Temporal Home Base

To care only for things temporal is to lose the things eternal; but to attend rightly to things eternal is the royal road to constructive thought and action in the temporal realm. The great artists and thinkers cultivate a systolic/diastolic rhythm, tension and release, an increase and then decrease of pressure. In the latter phase they withdraw, by whatever means available to them, to their attentional cottage for refreshment and clarification — and then they can return to the pressures of the moment more effectively, and in ways non-destructive to them and to others. But most of us, I think, get the rhythm wrong: we spend the great majority of our time in systolic mode — contracted, tensed — and only rarely enter the relaxed diastolic phase. Or, to change the metaphor: We think we should be living in the chaotic, cacophanous megalopolis and retreat to our cottage only in desperate circumstances. But the reverse is true: our attention cottage should be our home, our secure base, the place from which we set out on our adventures in contemporaneity and to which we always make our nostos.

~Alan Jacobs

I've been thinking recently about two themes that are present in this post: social media and leisure. Both, I think, I'll address in separate essays later this summer.

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Nostos: Il ritorno / Nostos: The Return Franco Piavoli. 1989

Ruins Necropolis Etrusca di Norchia, Str. S. Vivenzio, 01100 Viterbo VT, Italy See in map

See in imdb

[gaycactusscoundrel]

Song of the Day 05/27/2024

[aaronofithaca05]

I hate Dante´s Inferno for this, but I understand his point of view on Greek "heroes", being Italian he supported romans and who were they? Troyans; so where would you put the ancestral enemies of your ancestors, in Heaven, are you crazy? in the INFERNO, Where they´ll burn for all eternity!

Also I exposed in another tweet that in Dante´s Divine Comedy or what I like to call All against me are sinners and deserved to die, here´s theological proof TM. Odysseus´s life after the Suitor´s death is one of longing of adventure, ABANDONING PENELOPE AND TELEMACHUS, FOR FAME AND ADVENTURE, entering hell for the end.

deep breath...

As we can see the Divine´s Comedy is against Ody´s;, he´s leitmotiv was returning back to Ithaca ( Nostos); so as customary to the Romans, the Greeks are viewed and written trough a bad lens, like Achilles, Patroclus, etc..

Also a character that helps Dante for much of the book is based on a historical figure; Virgil who was also roman and the author of the Aeneid, who as you know is an Odyssey and Illiad ripe-off, like way on the nose. So is no brainer to put these two, Odysseus and Diomedes, in hell for destroying and sacking Troy, Rome´s alleged homeland.

Ooh! Aw :) the Odysseus/Penelope/Diomedes ship makes me SO SAD because in Dante's Inferno Odysseus returns to sea years later with Diomedes (leaving Penelope alone) and they both die and are punished for their wanderlust/dissatisfaction with life and they're like tied and burning together and :((( not only do they have to hear eachother being tormented, they also left Penelope alone, saying they'd return like last time, except this time it was actually, finally a lie :(((

Taking Diomedes away from him let my boy live in peace

Taking Odysseus away too let my other boy live in peace

Iirc correctly in the Aeneid, Diomedes is said to be living peacefully in his founded city? I like this. Go babygirl, live a life of peace after being so entrenched in war. There are also some posthomeric myths that say he becomes a god, offered immortality by Athena. I think that's funky. Go babygirl be a god

Also YELLING about Odysseus, why do people keep killing him off far from home when his entire story is about getting home. Weeping. Let him have his gentle death. Let him grow old with his lady love

[forislynx]

En gång betraktar vi världen, i barndomen. Resten är minne.

Louise Glück, Meadowlands (ur dikten Nostos)