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radnewspaperroom · 2 years ago
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Solomon observation for lesson 11
I'm gonna do a read more in case some of you haven't yet, but make sure you block the different spoiler tags in your settings to avoid spoilers in the future, ok?
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I find Solomon's whole interaction with Belphie to be mind boggling. Solomon has always been the kind to playfully act ignorant of jabs at him and blame for situations that he outright causes and brings about.
During S4, he helps Belphie and Satan with a prank that actually causes Lucifer to be bound to Solomon and Mephistopheles. But plays innocent at first.
Here we see him unashamed, correcting the blame and being willing to be public enemy number 1. A good mirror to Mammon's odd blame taking during the Cerberus excursion. Mammon is known for abandoning MC to his brothers wrath of him, and using them as a shield for balme (the custard) but he steps up and tells the truth about who got everyone to go to the castle
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And, did anyone else get a little freaked out and think "we're about to see Solomon do something with his full chest? Like actually put forth a great deal of effort into fucking the boys up....if need be?"
We've never seen Solomon truly angry before. Peeved off maybe, but full on wrath/anger/rage? Not yet. Still haven't I don't believe. But he's made it Crystal clear he is feeling things that aren't just neutrality and mischievousness.
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But I worry he's doing his regression arc. He's treating demons like ticking time bombs, which is fair on one hand. But he's removed himself in a way that kinda makes me think he's a hypocrite. Like he's better than them because he's not a demon.
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He automatically assumes the worst about the lot, instead of just taking it out on Belphie for attacking MC. He claims they're ganging up on MC and takes offense to it.
He still sees them as "other" than himself, and always keeps how to deal with them specifically in mind. Always keeping them at arms length. Never fully allowing anyone to get close and Allow himself to be vulnerable.
And not just with the brothers, but with MC too.
How much do we (MCs) know about Solomon?
1. He can't grow old or die from sickness, but he is killable.
2. He's ancient. Far older than he claims he can remember.
3. He's had a pact with Barbatos for centuries.
4. He's a scientist/alchemist at heart. The sentence: "for science!" Was basically made for fuckers like him.
5. He claims ignorance to sarcasm, taking people's insults as compliments.
6. He can't cook and He accidentally even makes potions when cooking. (Swear I think it's cause he's immortal. He's 'for science'd his way into the kitchen and developed a fucked up sense of taste)
7. He's known 13 just a bit longer than Barbatos, or so it seems currently.
8. He's got a one track mind. Once he's got an experiment going, good luck getting his attention till he's done.
9. He's traveled through time before.
10. He likes to keep secrets. Even from MC about seemingly the most trivial things.
11. He sees demons as puppets and tools to be used, not really friends to be close with. He started to change that in the OG, but again, I'm worried this is regression era, where he's gonna slide back into old habbits.
I also worry it's a bit of jealousy making him act out. This is the most time since MC was stuck in the human world with no teleportation magic that he's gotten to spend with them.
He's gotten to live with them at Cocytus Hall, eat dinner every night with them. Go shopping. He's getting that newly wed experience the brothers have got since day 1.
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Once the brothers accept MC as human, that'll come to a crash and burn. Simeon and Luke will go back to the celestial realm and MC's room will be open for them to go to (return to) and his honeymoon phase will be over as the newly infatuated brothers aren't gonna be keen on sharing their new love with him. It'll be just like present day
I said it in a different post, but Solomon has got issues, when it comes to having faith in someone other than himself.
He doesn't trust Asmo or Barbatos 100% cause they're demons, and he doesn't trust MC blindly yet, despite or perhaps because both of them are human.
He's constantly thinking about the next move, or 20 potential ones in any situation and calculating how to Speedrun the best outcome. And to be a scientist about it, he can't let feelings sway his ultimate decision.
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He's got a staggering inability to just say "I trust you", take a backsest or to trust MC's judgement. He wouldn't be able to answer MC if they asked him to trust them over the grimmore thing.
If you choose the "I'll follow your lead" option before meeting Lucifer, he says this...
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Solomon doesn't have faith in anyone but himself, and seeing MC's faith in him is enough to make him be vocal about it. Like he's honestly surprised his apprentice and romantic partner trusts him fully.
If there's something MC has buckets of: it's moxie and faith, and god damn if that ain't one hell of a combination.
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celestialrealms · 1 year ago
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Fun fact: In Barbatos's intimacy storyline in Nightbringer he ends up living with Solomon and MC at Cocytus Hall temporarily. Here's a highlight from his 40 intimacy call:
The way he makes Solomon sit in the corner. 😭 You cannot convince me he didn't raise this man.
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afraidofbee · 2 months ago
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“#no more candy”
(◕ ‸ ◕ ✿) Aww, sad sheepy.
(✿˙ᗜ ˙)੭━☆゚.*・。゚
*summons even more candies for you, filling up your entire room*
Hope you have the rescue team on standby ◡̈
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૮( ᴗ͈ˬᴗ͈ )ა thanks ♡
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radnewspaperroom · 2 years ago
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I second this, it's more antihero than straight up villain. He's trying to do what's best for the human realm, himself and MC. Not necessarily what's best for everyone. And certainly not what's best for the Devildom rn.
He also seems to be taking out his anger and jealousy from previous seasons out on the boys this season too 👀
I want my position clear. I doubt Solomon will be a “true villain”, at worst he may play the same antagonist role that Belphie and Lucifer played on s1. Regardless, I think Solomon taking on an antagonistic role would make his character and the story significantly more interesting, and that’s from someone who already likes Solomon.
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lemurianmaster · 4 months ago
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MC is me when people don't use the word 'spoiler' in the tags.
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yourlocalgrass · 7 days ago
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Obey me lesson 60 SPOILERS
Lesson 60 was obey me event core because wdym an inanimate object that is not inanimate because ✨magic✨ is into MC again which may come at the cost of the devildom? Like I thought this only happened in events
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vampireistic · 4 months ago
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that lucifer asmr taught me one thing: no one has been capturing his silly antics appropriately. FREE HIM FROM THE “SADIST DOM SHACKLES” LET THE MAN BE DUMB AND FUN!
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lvlcurrent · 2 years ago
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interacting w the brothers in the past is so 🧍🏿
like im too used to them in the present ig?/// also the premise "you just disappeared" 🧍🏿i'll have to play a bit more before settling but my mind is like🧍🏿hm barbatos u crazy bitch
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sweetbrier2908 · 1 year ago
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i just love seeing satan and belphie fighting to decide who the spoiled brat in the family
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abogwitchnamedsage · 2 years ago
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Let’s just say I was NOT emotionally prepared for lesson 17.
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radnewspaperroom · 2 years ago
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Wow, so uh....that new lesson huh?
I have.... thoughts.
Michael is getting a little too...all knowing and omnipresent 👀 I feel like.
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Each time, he's spoken to MC without showing himself, and saved them while stuck in the past....but this time he's not...sending them back to their proper time?
Just helping them move?
It's rather strange.
The first time was when Solomon made food and they ate it. They woke up in the past when the boys were angels and we assume it's Michael, speaks to MC in a shinning light, like what happened in 13.
He sends MC back to their time, and tells them the conversations they've had with the boys will stick with them.
But this time...idk seemed different. Maybe it's because of how fresh the war is? But he seemed a lot...more standoffish?
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and rather than just, yeeting MC through time and space again--he's just breaking whatever curse is on them so they can move.
Yet he's fully aware of how displaced they are, and that Nightbringer put them there and goes as far as to warn them.
It seems even Barbatos, up until the question of "where did you come from", doesn't realize you're from the future. And his whole ish is time and AUs.
If you choose the future option he cuts you off and makes the assumption your being an ass by referring to the human world as the future as humans see themselves above demons and comments on how it's a typical human answer: arrogant and rude.
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I know angels aren't supposed to interfere too much, more to sit back and watch but it makes me wonder: did Michael send them back last time because they were in the Celestial Realm, and he doesn't care as much or isn't as concerned since they're in the Devildom this time?
Also, in his warning he says
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And removes the curse of Snow White/Sleeping Beauty from MC.
Is he just curious how things will turn out? Does he not have the power this time to put MC back?
And why is he referring to the Celestial Realm that way? It almost reminds me of Simeon and his disconnect with the CR, speaking about it as if it's not his own decision that would be the call. We know Michael is basically Father's second in command, he's in charge of the CR basically from what we've seen.
Has that changed? Is Father going to be more present in this time? Or is it like the Devildom in the way of, there's a ring of command in the CR and they can over ride Michael if they all agree? Like how it seems the House of Shitlords tried to oppose Diavolo?
Also-- WTF?! Even if he passes everything he may still not be appointed King?!
Not the point of the post but, wtf?!
But yeah, so it seems Michael isn't Nightbringer, but he's aware of NB and what they've done, but isn't interfering too much.
I've had a theory in my head, partly as a joke, that Michael is a blonde, blue eyed Lucifer to be the day to his night (black hair, red eyes) and no one sees the resemblance
But what if Michael is Father in disguise? A way to connect to his creations on another level? He'd still be Omnipresent, powerful etc just in a different skin with his power hidden to pretend to be someone else.
I have no concrete proof to make this a legitimate theory, just a nagging voice in the back of my mind:
1. Michael is in charge, despite everyone fawning over Lucifer when he was an angel.
2. he's so seemingly "all knowing" and powerful.
3. Father has been missing or absent for a long time according to Simeon in the og Obey me (Boogeyman trial)
4. Everyone is terrified of Father, even if their biggest fear isn't of him. (Again, Boogeyman trial. Simeon's and Lucifer's biggest fear was him, when the boys wanted to go with MC to the CR, Lucifer asks if they really think Father would let them in)
5. He was represented in the Boogeyman trial as a bright, particular light, with no physical form. Simeon says "I haven't seen that light in a very long time" or something along those lines. Anytime we'ved talked to "Michael" it's been the same, aside from peeking at his texts.
At any rate, I loved it, loved how it flowed and already marked the calendar for 10-11 more days (should be around the 23rd-24th) so I can pounce when it's released
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special-mooon · 1 year ago
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Guys idk what happened i left my card in Mammons room and i came back to this
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Anyways come get ur grimmy little hands on this guy! (I swear im not sponsored i just want more ppl to show love to my man 🫶😔)
Link here!
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celestialrealms · 1 year ago
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og lesson 54 vs. nightbringer lesson 34
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afraidofbee · 2 months ago
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Oh I'm sorry! I forgot to offer you candy for Halloween
Can you please accept some sweets instead? They're from where I live I hope you like them!
*offers you jalebi and cham cham sweets*
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Let’s just say the package almost get missing or delayed ૮ • ﻌ - ა
Serun apologize for the inconvenience, Halloween is a busy time
໒(๑⃙⃘´༥`๑⃙⃘७ thanking u!!Jalebi and Cham Cham sweets looks so delicious!!!
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lil-xiao-200bc · 1 year ago
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NIGHTBRINGER?????
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yourlocalgrass · 10 months ago
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Awwww he’s such a sweetheart 🥹-
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Brat.
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